Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "The Jimmy Dore Show"
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Lack of fathers does not cause crime in Europe - see my other comment - introducing !! crime into a community by selectively putting their males into prison and creating the necessary laws to do so (even for minor crimes and drug possession) DESTROYS communities and destroys families.
There is no scientific reason why marijuana should be classified like Heroin as schedule 1 drug (very dangerous no medical use).And later Crack (artificial Cocaine) lead to much, much harsher sentences han Cocaine. Why ? If it is about the substance - they have the same effect.
These laws and regulations make only sense if the drugs laws are not desgined to prevent the use or keep harm away from the population - no they are designed to TARGE COMMUNITIES, to create a PRETEXT to incarcerate the members of certain communities. - See what a former high ranking member of the Nixon admin said about it.
The problem is not so much the lack of the father - but that the father is in PRISON. And cannot hold even a loose contact with the children.
What is a widow supposed to do ? - well she hopefully has an intact extended familiy with grandfathers, uncles, brothers, ...). Plus that she and her children have access to good school. That they are living in a SAFE environment, in communities where men are volunteering in youth groups and churches etc.
And when their young males come out of prison they had been in contact with hardened criminals, and then had much worse ECONOMIC chances. Meaning stress, no being able to care for their children, stress also leads to more drug abuse, domestic tensions, it can make marriage fail that were not strong to begin with, etc.
Adversity and struggle does not always bring out the best in people, sometimes they just falter.
Drug crimes are of course also illegal for white people in the U.S. - but the FBI has their spies in the black communities, the police searches much more black folks - so surprise, surprise, black and white folks use drugs at the same rate, but black people go to prison much more often.
That is proven btw - and it is also proven that minorities get harsher sentences (same crime, same history, that means if they already had been in trouble, etc.).
That bias btw also shows up in the school system (more minorities especially black kids are suspended etc.). That means if you take 100 or 1000 kids and they have the same transgression, the white kids will be treated with more leniency. And if they then deal drugs and take drugs they have a much better chance of not being caught. Meaning if they get their act together a few years later - they have a chance. Their black peer (doing the exact same things and we are talking about statistics here not about some individuals) already were in prison once, and are then unable to find a good job, have troubles with colleges (because of the conviction), likely a lower credit score, etc.
Getting the males into jail under ANY pretext and under exclusive laws (only applying to them - see black code ) started in the 1830s and became only stronger after the Civil War.
That - not single parent households - is toxic.
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@Amadeus8484 Activist and feminist Naomi Wolf held a talk at a libertarian event. That was in the Obama era. Laura Poitras was there as well. Her speech was not about feminism but about mass surveillance and that the constitution had been abolished.
She narrated how she (and Laura) - both perfectly law abiding citizens who use their constitutional right to free speech - got a "code" on every flight tickets. That Laura was harrassed on airports. She was always picked up for an "interview" by "security" whenever she had arrived after a flight - an op-ed of Glen Greenwald in the NewYork Times set and end to that illegal practice (after 30 or 40 such harrassments).
Wolf said she did not get that code on her flight ticket anymore ( that gets you the "looks" of staff) when the Obama admin came into power. Seems her feminist bio helped her with high ranking ladies in the party. But it got worse for Laura Poitras (She and Glen Greeenwald were the persons who Snowden trusted - they met him in Hongkong in 2013 ). Before she had made a documentary about the war in Iraq (very critical) - and is critical of the war machine no matter who is the puppet in the White House.
Wolf also strongly recommends NOT to wear masks when protesting. She says that is an invitation for the mules. If a person is caught on camera and it later comes out they are connected to police, FBI or one of the other letter agencies - that would be a scandal. If the organizers of a protest ban the wearing of masks and the participants monitor that their fellows stick to that rule - it is hard to pull off stuff anonymously.
The DAPL protesters did not bear weapons - weapons, alcohol, drugs were banned in the peace camps and during the protests on native land. But the "security" sent over a guy with a weapon and tried to start trouble. The mobil phone cameras protected them and they surrounded him and urged him to put the firearm down and to leave in peace. All while recording it. So he eventually left.
Wolf also says that she always knows when the FBI mules (assets ? or even employees) show up at her public speeches (so the FBI takes out time of their busy schedule to monitor HER ??). They do not master to dress the part obviously caught up in the idea they have to dress with a hippie vibe, which looks odd at a middle aged, often overweight, maybe conservative guy.
"It gives me the idea they take off the headband with the Rasta locks, put on the tie again and write the report." - Well, if I had to kill some time in the agency I would also rather deal with peaceful citizens like Poitras, Wolf and the crowd they attract. As opposed to the really dangerous and elusive criminal people in the mob or the white collar criminals that are protected by the politicians they buy.
The peaceful law abiding people that instigate peaceful mass protest are the enemy of the establishment. The powers that be can arrange themselves quite cozily with the mob, or even terrorism (they are protected better and how many jihadist attacks were there really ? And the occasional attack is the pretext for more mass surveillance, which is a lucrative business AND very useful to keep down their own citizens)
The woke citizens are the enemy and their leaders must be crushed.
Thom Hartman remembers one such infiltrator during the time of the Vietnam protests - he also stood out because he was trying too hard to make a case for use of force and made wild, loud and erratic comments after and often during the speeches.
He was not very subtle, in that case the relevant people in the movement knew full well that he was an agendt or asset of the FBI trying to get someone to say something that could be used against them.
Wolf: "They always stand out a little bit." Cry from the seats of the organizers of the libertarian event - "But they always pay full ticket price - so thank you." the audience was laughing. So that crowd - civil, quiet and normally dressed people were monitored as well while doing perfectly legal and law abiding rational !! things.
Mind you: that was uncer the Bush and then the Obama administration.
If need be, they will use FBI agents, undercover police and use TEARGAS to turn mass protest events chaotic.
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If the U.S. or the EU had economic policies "for the many not the few", and if the media would do a halfway decent job - the Russians could hire troll armies all they wanted.
They screwed up the unification of Germany, and the common currency (West-Marka the East-Mark) was the first common currency going completely wrong. The currency must be tailored to the needs of an economy (which is logical money represents and facilitates the exchanges of what that economy can produce). So within on year they had destroyed much of the industry and the jobs in Eastern Germany. The rich Germans did not accept homelessness - but the stress on the welfare system was enough to lead to "welfare" and labour "reforms" - read screwing the little people (like in the U.S. done by the party that allegedly is for the working people).
the EURO, the EU membership for the former Soviet satellite states has been a disappointment turning into severe problems for these weaker economies after the financial crisis. The rich European nations are somewhat holding on - but their economies are of course under constant neoliberal attack.
The Iraq lie, the endless Afghanistan war. The shady 9/11 commission, the many unsolved questions. Libya, now Syria.
the trade deals that are widely opposed in Europe and in the U.S.- but the "elites" try to ram them through anyway - including parties who used to be left and pro working people (Wel they were that back in the day, in the 70s).
The ruling class tell us that the EU, the EURO, NAFTA, TTIP, TPP, etc. are all wonderful. (same elites that did not see the Great Financial crisis coming).
Even before the crisis there was mass emigration of Polish workers to the UK: Now the well educated young people are leaving the Baltic states, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Portugal. The young in Spain and Portugal often have wealthier parents - so they hang on and stay - but of course there is high young unemployment.
In Germany they talk about the upcoming retirement mass poverty. (Germany isn't Germany anymore they are crumbling behind the facade, their decline is from a high level though, and still some social welfare. Way too little infrastructure investment for decades !!, the only thing that works is export (with the too weak currency the EURO, too weak for the strong German industry), that and wage dumping for qualified workers means stagnant domestic conscumption. Not even Germany can live off its export industry alone - and it makes them immensly vulnerable if their exports break down (for instance downturn in the U.S.)
the citizens are not THAT STUPID. They KNOW not to trust the regular politicians or the regular media anymore
Then the fuck-up with the refugee crisis. (That's another story. the UN got the funds cut from USD 30 per person to approx 11. and of course destroying the stability of Libya opened the routes for human trafficking - but the media does not bother us with that information). For the money spent in Germany one could excellently provide for double the number of people in a country with lower costs of living - but THAT did not happen, when they had the possibility to do that for years.
Austerity had been sold to the citizens.
But when huge numbers of refugees came (millions) a lot of extra government spending all of a sudden was a good thing and would do wonders for the economy (housing the refugees, social workers, etc.).
Not to pit the low-income natives against refugees - but if such Keynsian spending is so beneficial NOW how come it was not beneficial for the natives a few years earlier ?
The bank bail-out cost money, and the unemployment meant more expenditures for welfare (unemployment) and less tax revenue. So more government debt. Which was the PRETEXT for austerity.
Those who are in need of an authority go to the right. The others are left w/o an option to vote for. In the UK and the US many JUMPED to the populist candidates (people had just waiting for someone like Sanders of Corbyn to come along, the clueless "elites" and their media lapdogs just did not see it coming.
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The Dems are paid by the Big Donors (who finance BOTH parties) to keep progressives AWAY from influence, they must win PRIMARIES (not the GE). And sadly in most cases they were successful. ** The money THROWN into the primaries helped the establishment candidates.
And don't think they would EVER support a progressive that does well in a purple district. They would rather have a Republican win.
on of the few exceptions:
** Crowley in New York was too complacent, Alexandria is uncommonly good, her campaign went on for 1,5 years !, and recent polling showed her 36 points behind (so it was approx. 50 points off, she activated non-voters.
That is hard to handle, pollsters rely on "same old, same old" for their predictions.
But that might have helped her, the party for sure would have used all legal and illegal means to prevent her primary win.
Some citizens in her district did not even dare to have a photo taken with her (could cost me my job) when employed as civil servant or with the city.
And many do not dare to work for the campaign that opposes the "machine". Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez confirmed it, Cynthia Nixon (who goes against heavyweight Cuomo) also said that some people do not dare to work for her campaign for fear of being shunned in future.
They could have tried to covertly activate civil servants ("encouraging" them to vote in the primaries, directly endorsing Crowley. Likely more successful - getting the unions to make their members vote for Crowley. unions - unlike the government - have no legal problem when they give such endorsements.
But with the polls showing her 36 points behind they did not bother.
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Lawrence Wilkerson (he was in acquisition - later he became Chief of Staff to Colin Powell). He was told that one project he headed cost too little. He had to make it bigger and involve more states. Else it would not find the votes in Congress.
MIC jobs are not going to be outsourced and are well paying industry jobs.
The representatives are placated and bribed with such deals. They have something to show when they come home to the voters.
So even if they are not personally corrupted (often they are: campaign finance, cushy jobs for ex-politicians) - there is still a strong incentive. I think that even applies to Sen. Sanders (F35 fighters are produced in Vermont). And Senator Rand Paul rolled over with the confirmation of Mike Pompeo - he had come out strongly. Either one of the Big Donors thought otherwise - or he was bribed / strongarmed. such deals do not always come immediately - but that his state would be considered next time ....
Of course many would find it outrageous to spend the money on green energy, infrastructure, education, .... The skies would be falling, and the money could never, ever be found. (In that context: Debt and interest free money Dr. Richard Werner, short clip excellent information, easy to understand).
Bold government spending on civilian projects would have the same beneficial economic effects - actually better. I remember a story about how the Pentagon did not want certain tanks - they got them anyway. So a few citizens got jobs and now the tanks are rusting away (which is the best case scenario, if used it would mean WAR). The same money spent on childcare would employ people AND deliver useful services for the citizens.
So "war is not the source of everything else" - it is more that the powers that be cannot be bothered to make bold investements for anything less than the military and war.
Think of the Race to the Moon, the Cold War (it was one spending spree and that was one of the MAIN reasons) or the Manhattan Project.
Unfortunately only the military and war triggers such bold determination, support of the media - when it comes to the well-being of the citizens the money is impossible to find.
I think it is a matter of hierarchy and class. Imagine government spending supports employment and we would have REAL high employment. Not the fake numbers we have now, yes people have jobs but they are underemployed as well. Else we would see wages rising. Which only happened very recently.
Plus things like childcare, housing, healthcare, public transportation would be affordabe and well taken care of.
So if a person was willing to live modestly - they would have the basics covered. Could risk a disagreement with their employer or start their own thing.
It would reduce the FEAR, the ANXIETY. People do not have to put up with employment conditions, they can risk to get fired (a job that will pay the not so high bills can be found), they might chose to work less (good wages mean a part time job can be sufficent, especially when a couple works part time) and either invest more time in the family or be politically active.
A nightmare scenario: citizens active in politics and the communites who are relatively safe economically.
The military budget is funneled towards EQUIPMENT - that is funding for the contractors ! It is harder to find money for soldiers for personal equipment that would increase their safety, or the VA.
Those products are so unique that they are not very competitive.
On the other hand if money would be spent on civilian services, citizens would save on childcare or avoid the car damage because the roads are well maintained - no holes.
So they do have the JOBS and then they get a service which is useful (instead of tanks rusting away somewhere).
Civilian products and services are not THAT unique, a lot of companies of ALL SIZES from all over the country (often local) can deliver them - as opposed to special interests. Those many potential entrepreneurial beneficiaries of such government spending may not hire lobbyists, ex politicians, they will not advertise on TV and donate huge sums of money to politicians or SuperPacs.
That is also the problem with hiring teachers or soldiers or experts for the NSA instead of outsourcing to private for profit contractors.
If it is in the public sphere no one is going to MAKE A PROFIT. Nor will it provide jobs for ex-polticians.
Yes: It is an economic activity, it delivers services to the citizens, the staff costs money and the staff then has disposable consumer income - so the positive effects on the economy are there - BUT it is out of reach for "investors".
In military conctracting it is often about HUGE sums - that gives toxic incentives even in private companies never mind in the government contracting environment.
For profit companies do not automatically serve the clients as well as they can (that is only the marketing message !)
- they only do so if they are FORCED to do so. That is the case if it is easy to switch for customers and if they have competition (see broadband, also see what the "too big to fail banks" feel emboldened to do to their little customers).
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@s.o.c_914 The people that WORK are productive (even IF they are not working legally !) A modern economy CAN provide healthcare for everyone when the society is so productive. the per capita (= per head) expenditures * in wealthy European countries are 50 - 65 % of that of the U.S. (even though the population in Europe is on average older - that is a major cost driver so the U.S. has a cost advantage !)
I know 2 systems in Europe very well - Germany and Austria. In these countries there is much less tolerance to have poor people. There are low income people, divorced mothers on part time - BUT the basics are covered.
The Europeans do not define themselves as migration countries - but they have been in reality since the 1960s - maybe not to the degree like the U.S. - but on the other hand if you think about the refugee crisis (caused to a large degree by the U.S. setting the Middle East on fire).
In recent years ALSO the non-productive refugees and migrants are covered by the healthcare systems. Germany has 85 million people - 1 million migrants were taken in. And unlike the migrants in the U.S. they are mostly not productive - they are often not allowed to work (until their status is clear - and even then they must be able to get a job), and get an allowance for housing and costs of living or they are housed in communal homes where everything is covered for them.
per capita healthcare expenditures That means all that is already spent !! in the country divided by number of people (in USD per year - source World Bank).
In the U.S. that includes a lot of people without or with insufficient coverage and also those with high medical debt !!
in numbers: the range in most wealthy single payer countries (in Europe, also Canada, Australia) is 5,000 - 6,000 USD (USD 5,400 in Austria, 5,600 in Germany).
Compared to 9,200 in the U.S. (again all that is already ! being spent and then the AVERAGE per person). The U.S. system is so overpriced and inefficient that there is plenty of room to cover everyone - in the long term that should still SAVE money.
Per capita costs (per person): that can be scaled up and down for the countries - indeed there is little difference between Iceland with 300,000 people and Germany with 85 million. The economy of scale does not seem to make much a difference (but being a large country does not hurt).
it makes sense. Hospitals and doctors can realistically serve a certain number of people. And they need to be spread throughout the country to be accessible and for short distance for emergencies. So that can be scaled up or down.
Iceland is not a weaker negotiation partner for Big Pharma (they could buy with other countries or get the information what other countries are paying - so no chance to rip them off even though they are tiny)
Maybe they cooperate with other nations when it comes to university training of doctors (if so likely with Denmark - because of the language). Training of nurses they can certainly do locally in a cost efficient manner as well.
In most European countries the training of medical staff, doctors, nurses, physiotherapists, ... is free. In Germany and Austria the nurses have a 3 year paid internship. The students are usually young women 16 years and older, that live in a boarding school that is run by a hospital. There they go to school, work in the departments, learn for the tests and in most cases live in the dorms.
After the costs for the dorms are deducted, they are left with a small allowance, more if they come from the same city and can live with the parents. Even though the school prefers to have them on campus. They have a lot to learn and it is lights out between 10 and 11 pm. So usually they can visit home every fortnight. Having your daughter or son make that training does not burden the family budget - on the contrary they will be left with some money for clothes. and they are kept busy - and are supervised. The hospitals that do the training are likely getting compensated to some degree by the states - on the other hand they have some labor of the "apprentices" for cheap.
In Europe per capita also means: all that is spent in the country - the average per person. But this time without hassle for the patients/unsured, everyone has coverage and the money goes into a cost-efficient, streamlined system.
Streamlined means: Everyone gets (potentially !) the same treatments in the same facilites, there are no networks that you can have with your policy or not. And there are no standard or platinum plans. When people start a new job they must be announced to the insurance agency (the comapny pays the wage decuctions once a month). That takes 5 minutes. No health questions - of course not. Privacy - and it does not matter - ONLY the wage decides the contribution.
And there are no later payments - that is what "Free" healthcare means - free at the point of delivery.
That simplictiy results in low administration costs. It also makes it impossible for hospitals and doctors to rig the system against patients. They have no reason to deny care - and they are accountable to the public. (public non-profits). It is not possible to hold the CEO of a hospital chain or large insurance company accountable - but if the system does not work for the patients in Europe the blame would be on politicians - to do something. No need to engage in a lawsuit. And since everyone would get the same good or bad treatment the citizens - and the politicians - have a stake in the game. What happens to one person concerns all.
Certain treatmens are covered on principle (or not - braces for instance are in many cases not covered) - and then the doctors decide what they think is the right treatment for a certain patient (for instance if the doctors thinks it is necessary to order a helicopter transport instead of an ambulance. Helicopter with emergency doctor is "on the menu". So is ambulance transport with or without emergency doctor.
People pay mandatory modest contributions from their wages, which must be matched by employers (all ! employers) - AND like in the U.S. the insurance ageny gets a lot of subsidies ** - but these subsidies go into a cost-efficient system where many (and especially the large) players are public non-profits = the insurance agency and many or all hospitals.
The only large and powerful for profit player is Big Pharma - but they have very standardized products so luckily that makes it easier for the public non-profit insurance agency to drive a good bargain. (And I am sure the agencies of various countries have found opportunities to "compare" prices).
** In Germany the budget for a family of 4 would be around USD 22,400 per year (5,600 x 4). Even if they are healthy - that is the AVERAGE. That is too much for low income people. So whatever the parents (or the one breadwinner) pay as percentage of their wage will be enough. And there are provisions for people w/o a job.
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9:00 The Dems can live with losing elections - the Donors that pay them assigned them to task to sheep dog and suppress progressives. That is even more important than winning. And as long as they do that the Big donations continue. - Nader (and Jill Stein a little bit) disturbed that scheme - that is why the Democrats go so furiously after the third parties. - They bank on it that the working class people have nowhere to go, that the blackmail "the Republicans are even worse than us, and will really hurt you" continues to work.
They would never, ever accept ranked choice voting - that would immediately end that blackmail, they would need to start working for the people in order to get their votes. (A lot of people would ould vote third party, voter participation would skyrocket and the D or R candidate would be the "lesser evil" plan B. Just in case the preferred third party candidate would not make it. There would be competition and choice in the policital landscape.
They STILL come up with the crap that Nader prevented Al Gore becoming president, ignoring the hundred of thousands of Democratic voters in Florida that voted for Bush. Or that the voter purge in Florida became public BEFORE the elections - it was headline news in Europe. So what did the SITTING president and his VP Al Gore - who knew he would need to win Florida - do ? They did nothing - the Big Donors did not want the boat rocked, the unwashed masses alerted and the image of a flawless election process stained. -
Al Gore after the elections was warned by the Party establishment to not to raise a stink about the lost/stolen election. Al Gore was rewarded for his compliance and the Dems kept the Big Donors.
People like Bill Maher make it look like Nader running ultimately led to 9/11 and then to the wars.
The logistics for the Afghanistan invasion was prepared in summer 2001 - the politicians in D.C. must have known that.
The Dems could have voted against the Iraq war in 2003 or blown the whistle - D.C was buzzing with rumours, Schroeder of Germany and Sarkozy of France KNEW why they declined to join the US in the war.
No doubt Clinton and her Democratic collegues ALSO had heard something - but she has never met a war she did not like, her donors and the media friendly with the Clinton machine liked the war, too.
And if the vote turned out to be a mistake - she was not going to be alone with the mistake and no one in her circles would be in combat. So it was a "safe" vote, damned be the Iraqis and the U.S. soldiers.
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+ Joe Hammond - you cite the Greek city states - really ? They had slavery, no human rights, no rights for women, etc, etc. - Now that many men (not all only the "free") in theory had a say was not a bad thing. Certainly an improvement to a king having absolute power (over life and death usually).
But since the advent of agriculture society had split up in the elites, and those who serve them. The elites in ancient Greek were of course BUSY to get back all the power from the commoners. Same happened later in Rome as well. - It is not only that you CAN vote - the question is: WHO has a realistic chance to come on the ballot ? And do you have the vote - or also a good CHOICE for someone who will really represent the interests of the commoners (not the interests of the powerful and rich elites).
It seems the citizens of ancient Athens, Rome or now the U.S. have the same problem. (that is not remarkable, the problem stems from human nature and how to control power in larger societies).
And a real democray (whatever from, Republic, constitutional monarchy) must also have a working JUSTICE SYSTEM (meaning the powerful are held accountable as well, and the powerful cannot harrass and kill people who disturb their rackets as they please).
Do you think there was a long and carefully executed PUBLIC court case against Sokrates ? With lively public attendance and interest ?
We rely on the stories that were a) written down and b) made it into our time. So we have to take the story as is reported (no court case at all, if memory serves - just a bunch of people showing up, how is that the majority).
But when we go after human nature - how likely is it, Sokrates got a "fair and speedy trial" with the right to bring witness and with the right to get support.
habeus corpus has been suspended btw (by the U.S. government).
Things have gotten better over the millenia - but some mechanisms show up again, and again.
(and today people ARE STILL harrassed, killed by governments and stooges paid by big corporations, for instance Canadian or U.S. mining or oil companies. Not in the First World Countries - but FOR corporations of these countries too).
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TheZodiacz - well said - something like the litte doubt they could be held accountable saved the non violent resistance in Eastern Germany in 1988/1989. The rigid dictatorship in Eastern Germany was always very obedient to the Soviets - until Gorbachev started the Perestroika and Glasnost thing. - Then for the first time Eastern Germany did not fall in line. - Their civil resistance however sniffed morning air - and the police and army did not DARE to shoot the demonstrators (some were roughed up or arrested, or lost their job, but no one was killed).
We know that use of firearms was discussed - but the bureaucrats clinging to power were not QUITE SURE how this all would end, now that even the Soviets considered giving their citizens more freedom. And if they started a massacre and the regime would fall anyway (or in a few years time) they would be held accountable. Never mind that Western Germany would withdraw financial support (like loans), it was always upheld in Western Germany they would strive for unification, so that kind of state violence would have triggered a massive public and political reaction.
When the Berlin Wall went down, the spy agency STASI (running an extensive spy and snitch operation on their own citizens to keep them in line) tried to destroy the files. They had everything documented (incl. the clear names of the snitches, their rewards, etc. - that's a very German thing: to do the correct accounting and to have precise files.
The demonstrators just entered the building and prevented them from continuing their destruction of evidence.
The secret service guys of STASI were completly perplexed and caught off guard by that intrusion into the holy halls of spies and snitches. No one had ever stood up to them. They knew their reign was over, they had of course still armed security at their disposal, they just did not dare ordering them to shoot - and the security forces would have refused to comply.
Which is why Germans (and also citizens of other countries, they also worked West Germany etc.) still can make a Freedom of Information request and find out if a neighbour, supposed friend or coworker, or even sibling spied on them resp. reported them to the regime. Or if someone in a major Western German newspaper was a mule and STASI informant.
Of course the STASI is nothing against the modern surveillance state.
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