Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Wendover Productions"
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What rubbish: the mythical market forces will NOT solve that. Cleaning up after yourself instead of leaving a mess is ALWAYS more of a hassle / cost. And putting the burden of costs / work / avoidance on the consumers ? Who are at the END of a process and have NO say, so they de facto end up with hardly any choices of what to buy. Shopping would become super complicated, time consuming and also more expensive.
Companies that are held accountable financially for their WASTEFUL packaging choice (a lot has to do with the whims of marketing) would just put the extra costs on the product prices, they would not try to avoid waste or be more sustainable. They must be forced to be responsible (And consumers tried to push them, that ended with a fake solution for decades).
hey also would add the costs on paint or gas for lead damage, buying their way out (not really - they just pass on costs, it is not like they would bring a sacrifice for pollution related costs, and would accept lower profits).
doing harmful things and just increasing the price to buy their way out - that is not how it works. Lead in paint has been banned for instance.
We know that "consumer should make choices that nudge companies to be ethical"' does not work. It has never worked in the past. The companies do their best to circumvent, lie and spin a narrative even if they are called out. Clean Clothes and Fair Trade campaigns have been going on for decades and not much has changed, not for the mass of goods that are sold.
The ethical and responsible solutions should be DEFAULT not something that consumers have to work hard for (with paying attention - and on 1000 other things, where biz also cannot be bothered, or with paying more money. There is only so much time and attention that consumers can and will invest because the lawmakers cannot be bothered to make the industries do the right thing).
Not every citizen cares about the enviromentment and we should not depend on that. As we also do not depend on the masses being responsible (and aware !) regarding other things. The military draft for Vietnam was NOT voluntay, they locked people up for refusing to go to war. Paying taxes is also not voluntary.
We also do not leave it to the goodwill of reasoable people if they will respect red traffic lights and we demand that people can't drive when they are not sober.
That is enforced, monitored and there are fines and consequences for non-compliance - so by and large most people don't do it.
Not voluntarily or because they are so attentive, enlightened and out of the goodness of their heart - but because society chose to settle that with REGULATIONS and set a NORM, a default for all members of society.
THAT is effective.
Putting the burden on consumers is ludicrous and is ineffective.
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