Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "WFLA News Channel 8"
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The killed mother (and his father) should have told their son to not engage with crazy / enraged former gf on social media - a lesson for life (so she was 14 years or younger when they dated). HER parents should have grounded her and cut her off social media long ago. and if she is childish she has no business dating, not at 13, 14 or age 15, not a teenager and also not a young adult later.
If she acts up, she needs some more time before she is ABLE to use social media, and maybe some counseling too. Even children of good parents ( that CARE about other people and MODEL decent behavior for them) can be thoughtless, mean or engage in online bullying or online spats. It is easier to get drawn into that, as opposed to bully someone else in person.
Good parents would know that their daughter somehow still reels with the former "relationship" (so why does she have a new bf - if she would be done with her old boyfriend she would not have been negative with him on social media).
But instigating her new bf and other friends to beat up the old bf - that goes too far and indicates she has not been taught compassion, boundaries, impulse control, ....
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Her parents did not lay the groundwork for her being a decent person or having impulse control. Nor did they know / care what was going on in her (love) life, and that she obsessed over the former bf (like some people do in divorces, they are connected by hate or despise each other, and that binds them as strongly as affection. Unfortunately the son of Suzanne either riled her up, or did not know that HE should disengage, if she can't let go.
The school already suspended her, so her parents must have known. and usually there are warnings of school before OR the parents of Hunter already called them (then why did they not order their son Hunter to be mature and block her and ignore her).
As for her being grounded and cut off social media: She can't plot anything, nor does she meet her bf or the other idiotic "friends", if she does not behave. With the suspension being imminent reasonable parents would have her phone, no unsupervised access to the internet. They would have her passwords to her social media accounts, and she is grounded.
The parents of her normal schoolfriends would know (so she has it harder to meet her friends secretly or to communicate with them secretly with new social media accounts). Above all the bf and his parents would be told that those two lovebirds are not going to meet for some time, because obviously she is stil very childish.
If she behaves like a child, she is not going to "date" like a young lady. And her 18 year old bf does not seem to be an influence to spur her emotional growth either (in some cases 15 or 16 year old teenagers dating a young man mature faster because of his "grown-up" influence) - so for now that relationship is on pause, too. Until she behaves like a young lady and not like a child.
She would have been super angry, the bf would not have liked it - but the parents asserting their authority would have protected all the young idiots from their own stupidity. Hunter would be unharmed, unbothered - and Suzanne still alive.
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the 18 year old should have been more reasonable. part of HIS immaturity may be that he wanted to impress others (teenagers, a 15 year old childish gf) and sought validation from them. Even if he does not have the decency, or follows Christian principles, and nothing too bad would have happened (Hunter is not seriously injured after they "showed him") - does he not know this is battery and will get him AND his father into trouble ?
A pastor is not supposed to have a criminal son, and the son using the church van for thuggery does not make it better. The other minor idiots might get off lighter with battery but HE at age 18 and driving them over ? Sounds like an immature 18 year old that wants to win recognition from stupid teenagers and his stupid 15 year old gf.
So he has a 15 year old gf ?? I mean that happens and if she is mature for her age, a reasonable 18 year old is a better match than a teenage boy of her age. BUT this 15 year old girl was not mature.
Nor was he, and his Christian parents obviously also completely failed on the foundation. You bet this boy showed up at church and if not voluntarily, the parents made him, and appearance of faith and Christian and family values were maintained.
A better (better raised) young adult would have reigned in his young gf and if that is not possible he would have ditched her. A better young man would not be attracted to such a childish young drama queen to begin with. If she obsesses with her older boyfriend it is also an insult to him.
She had the spiteful idiocy that some 15 year old girls (and boys) can have - and she had the power (car, driving licence, physical strength) of a 18 year old and a 16 year old young man on top of that to get "revenge" on someone she did not date for 1 year.
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Most nations make a distinction if the criminals are minors and I do not get WHY they can get an age upgrade. What is the point of making such (just, reasonable, scientifically supported) provisions (minors are not adults, even if they can cause damage like an adult) when the provisions can be overruled if the public is enraged. In this case there was no intent to murder, and the intent of the battery may not have been serious harm either.
The outcome is tragic - I think even for the young idiots. Their parents failed them, and the problem here is that they are so stupid and the driver panicked, not so much the malicious intent or the criminal energy.
The planned battery was bad enough and reflects badly on them and parents - but it is not a heinous crime by itself. Not one that would justify to deviate from treating them as minors. They are obviously all VERY immature.
They were mean, immature. Did the 18 year old feel the need to "impress" his 15 year old gf, and was he seeking validation from teenagers because he could not get it elswhere ? The driver was obviously panicking, there is a lot of entitlement and ignorance and lack of foresight about the consequences (even w/o a dead or "only" injured victim).
and here that combination sadly lead to a tragic outcome. They ALL should be treated as juveniles (not sure about the 18 year old but in many countries they still make a distinction between 18 and 20 or 21 - because we know from science that their brain ! still develops and their personality forms).
We can hope that at age 20 none of them would have been stupid enough for that stunt. If they did not have the moral boundaries by then (you do not beat up people if you have a disagreement with them, you block them on social media), they would abstain from it because they would realize the consequences (even for "milder" forms of battery that do not end with serious injuries, they can get into serious trouble).
They did not plan to kill (so no first degree murder, not even second degree). They may not even have intended to hurt Hunter a lot. They certainly did not plan having to deal with the parents coming home. They waited until the mother left the home, no one planned to harm her. they also did not dare the assault when she was home.
In other countries it would be manslaughter for the 18 year old. And battery charges for all of them. It is very sad that the mother was the victim - but they are minors anyway.
He also did not intend to kill. He lost his nerves. That is why he drove over her and continued going.
Reptilian brain mode. (if he was thinking straight he would have known that he could as well stay and endure the confrontation of the mother). They were going to find out who he was, and that also meant trouble with his parents.
The idiot was not good in thinking about the ineviatble consequences even if their plan had worked out as planned. Harm the former bf when he is alone, but not too badly.
The houses in the affluent neighbourhoods all have security camers.
What did they think ???
Suzanne also did not think in the moment. She for sure expected him to stop by stepping in front of the car, and wanted to confront him. But that was not necessary, they had the thugs anyway. - He is a coward, was "man" enough to gang up on the victim of the battery, but not man enough to face his upset mother.
Thinking about it - he likely was a boy seeking validation from "mean" and immature other children.
There was no way they would get out of it.
On top of all of that they are exceptionally stupid. Again: to a degree I blame parents for having such clueless kids.
Even if they had "only" beat up the son - in the house or elsewhere - and even if no one, also not Hunter would have been seriously hurt. WHAT did they think was going to happen ? The 18 year old and his father would get in serious trouble with the church, battery charges would be pressed. Consequences for the minors as well.
That is why I think the foolish driver panicked. It did not matter if Suzette could film the car or them - they were going to be identified anyway.
He just lost it (like the U.S. police often does, but unlike them he is not going to get away with bullying, idiotic behavior that ends with the death of another person).
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