Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Dr. John Campbell" channel.

@drutter the curve of Sweden (and UK) is still going up (I looked at deaths). Central European countries fared much better, when it comes do dead people AND I do not think the Swedish can escape the economic trouble. (Export nation, tourism). - It was an attempt, but it did not work out.
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Sweden has one of the highest death counts PER capita in Europe. Or per millions. Dr. Campell made a mistake in the description box: they have over 500 per 1 million people (I think the mistake is that he gives the number per tenthousand residents). Germany has approx 100 deaths per million residents and Austria has under 80 (South Korea under 1). U.K. I think is over 600, and the U.S. over 400 (but in reality likely more in the U.S. expect them to undercount). In the U.S., U.K. Sweden the death numbers are still going up, not down. No flattening of the curve. I go by death numbers case numbers are hard to compare because rigorous testing could make a country look worse. In countries with a reasonable healthcare system and care for the elderly the death numbers should be the most reliable data (so not in the U.S.). They do not burden the ICU units with old patients in Sweden - obviously they let them die but keep them quiet with the palliative cocktail. and spare the caregives having to watch the struggle. Else they would have more old patients in the hospital and ICU beds - not fewer.
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Please like so the comment will stay on top ! The numbers regarding deaths in the description box are completely OFF, here are the latest (John Hopkins University, June 21 or 22, 2020 have that from an official Austrian site, they use those numbers for other countries). Died from coronavirus per million 639,1 UK (still growing but at a less steep angle, might be the beginning of a plateau) 489,3 Sweden(and STILL a curve that goes up) 441,2 France (also high but their curve is flat now, very little NEW casualties 364,1 US (curve going up but less steep than Sweden, of course they might underreport numbers, think low income people dying alone at home, publicly (under)funded care homes 107,2 Germany - solid plateau for a long time 77,8 Austria - solid plateau for a long time 5,4 South Korea - they blow us all out of the water With reliable reporting in the country and getting testing in place there should not be too many cases where people had noticeable symptoms but did not get a test (in the early stages, when tests were rare: as long as they could recover at home and were able to quarantine - erring on the side of caution. Stay at home spouses, retired people that were doing O.K., students that held no job .... they did not give them one of the rare tests in the beginning, even if the symptoms sounded like CoVid-19. Only when they needed to go to the hospital. so in the early stage there were cases, that are now showing up in the stats. (Plus of course still all the cases that are not detected (no or almost no symptoms), except when tracing a chain of infection, or some random mass testing because of a cluster. I know for sure that the numbers for Austria are: "confirmed by a special doctor to have died OF CoVid-19". The number for "died WITH" (= tested positive) is approx. 25 people more. The nations do not reprot that indentically, but it should not make a big difference. In Austria 3,9 % of all KNOWN cases ("tested postive) died of the virus. In a country where infected likely show up in the statistics if they have somewhat noticeable symptoms ** since testing was ramped up. Lockdown was mid March, and I think 2 weeks later they had the testing in place. So some case numbers (tested positive resp. infected) of the early stages are missing, and of course then and still most of the cases with no or very light symptoms. I heard the number of 40 % claimed (40 % of all infected have so light symptoms that they are not detected, so only when there is mass testing (because of a cluster), random testing, or testing of people that had contact with an infected person, they will be found. people will not avoid to take sick leave, they can get medical help, and tests. Free healthcare at the point of service, and also mandatory sick leave (has nothing to do with corona virus). Same situation in Austria and Germany. people with a job that need sick leave WILL need a confirmation by a doctor that they are sick, meaning now they will get tested. And meanwhile people out of a job also get the tests if they check the boxes. Also companies have to pay until a person is pronounced healthy, even IF the company would fire them (and they have some terms for that, on the spot firing is not possible, that can be one week, 1 month, even longer). That rule ensures (in general, not only now) that the companies cannot try to avoid paying sick leave by ending an employment contract. Especially if the sick leave is likely to end in the foreseeable future, and the person returns, it does not make sense. Moreover companies can have insurance against that risk, the coverage is provided by the public non-profit health insurance agency, and especially for smaller companies the compensation is generous. The agency will by default take over to pay sick leave after some time (think months), but until then companies can get insurance.
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@designstinamarshmallow9868 Sweden has one of the highest death counts PER capita in Europe. Or per millions. Dr. Campell made a mistake in the description box: they have over 500 per 1 million people (I think the mistake is that he gives the number per tenthousand residents). Germany has approx 100 deaths per million residents and Austria has under 80 (South Korea under 1). U.K. I think is over 600, and the U.S. over 400 (but in reality likely more in the U.S., expect them to undercount). In the U.S., U.K. Sweden the death numbers are still going up (I just checked the graph of John Hopkins) not down. No flattening of the curve. I go by death numbers, case numbers are hard to compare because rigorous testing could make a country look worse. In countries with a reasonable healthcare system and care for the elderly the death numbers should be the most reliable data (so not in the U.S.). They do not burden the ICU units with old patients in Sweden - obviously they let them die, but keep them quiet with the palliative cocktail. and spare the caregives having to watch the struggle. Else they would have more old patients in the hospital and ICU beds - not fewer. At least that is what was suggested by the information Dr. Campell gave.
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@andrewmartin6445 Yes even a scarf does provide PREVENTION. a potential spreader will spread much less with a simple mask. and to a degree it helps also to not get infected ´. masks with tight fit are best, loose fit of mask reduces protection and the scarf is for those that claim they can't wear a mask. Still _some_protection. The virus must be more contagious than we know (and it could get worse as it mutates. It did that, the strain that is around since March is more infecitous, most people already got that. and if these simple measures (simple masks, or scaves and hand washing) can shave off only 10 or 20 % of the new infections it is worth it. Small clusters can grow quickly. and you have to do a lot of testing and tracing to nib it in the bud - so you can only do that if you keep the case numbers in total low - and then chase after the cases and the people that were close. That is why even "imperfect" measures can help. Medical staff is another beast - they have and need more professional and reliable PPE. They have much longer exposure time and the virus load would be higher.
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@drutter your numbers are pretty accurate, here the latest (John Hopkins University, June 21 or 22, 2020 have that from an official Austrian site, they use those numbers for other countries). Died from coronavirus per million 639,1 UK (still growing but at a less steep angle, might be the beginning of a plateau) 489,3 Sweden(and STILL a curve that goes up) 441,2 France (also high but their curve is flat now, very little NEW casualties 364,1 US (curve going up but less steep than Sweden, of course they might underreport numbers, think low income people dying alone at home, publicly (under)funded care homes 107,2 Germany - solid plateau for a long time 77,8 Austria - solid plateau for a long time 5,4 South Korea - they blow us all out of the water With reliable reporting in the country and getting testing in place there should not be too much cases where people had noticeable symptoms but did not get a test (in the early stages, when tests were rare: as long as they could recover at home and were able to quarantine - erring on the side of caution. Stay at home spouses, retired people that were doing O.K., students that held no job .... they did not give them one of the rare tests in the beginning, even if the symptoms sounded like CoVid-19. Only when they needed to go to the hospital. so in the early stage there were cases, that are now showing up in the stats. (Plus of course still all the cases that are not detected (no or almost no symptoms), except when tracing a chain of infection, or some random mass testing because of a cluster. I know for sure that the numbers for Austria are: "confirmed by a special doctor to have died OF CoVid-19". The number for "died WITH" (= tested positive) is approx. 25 people more. The nations do not reprot that indentically, but it should not make a big difference. In Austria 3,9 % of all KNOWN cases ("tested postive) died of the virus. In a country where infected likely show up in the statistics if they have somewhat noticeable symptoms ** since testing was ramped up. Lockdown was mid March, and I think 2 weeks later they had the testing in place. So some case numbers (tested positive resp. infected) of the early stages are missing, and of course then and still most of the cases with no or very light symptoms. I heard the number of 40 % claimed (40 % of all infected have so light symptoms that they are not detected, so only when there is mass testing (because of a cluster), random testing, or testing of people that had contact with an infected person, they will be found. Free healthcare at the point of service, and also mandatory sick leave (has nothing to do with corona virus). Same situation in Austria and Germany. people with a job that need sick leave WILL need a confirmation by a doctor that they are sick, meaning now they will get tested. And meanwhile people out of a job also get the tests if they check the boxes. Also companies have to pay until a person is pronounced healthy, even IF the company would fire them (and they have some terms for that, on the spot firing is not possible, that can be one week, 1 month, even longer). That rule ensures (in general, not only now) that the companies cannot try to avoid paying sick leave by ending an employment contract. Especially if the sick leave is likely to end in the foreseeable future, and the person returns, it does not make sense. Moreover companies can have insurance against that risk, the coverage is provided by the public non-profit health insurance agency, and especially for smaller companies the compensation is generous. The agency will by default take over to pay sick leave after some time (think months), but until then companies can get insurance.
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@drutter of course the Swedish hospitals did not collapse, they let the people die in care homes and prescriptions of the palliative cocktails have gone up. The number of OLD people in ICU is lower than in normal times. The old people do not clog up the hospitals, they are not brought there. They die. See numbers.
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Update from July 10, 2020 - death numbers of Sweden, U.S., U.K. still going up (unlike the other nations which have a flat curve) - still no gripon the situation.
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@bjorne5836 No it hasn't - it couldn't anyway I talk about absolue numbers resp. deaths per million residents. Those numbers cannot go down in any country. But they can be stagnant. Which is a sign that they have the situation under control. They had deaths - but not new ones (or hardly new ones). - see John Hopkins. You have a very steady unbroken increase in the graph deaths per million. The curves of the other first world countries looks different (they have "flattened" the curve also regarding deaths). That is also true for Italy, Belgium, France, ... that had many deaths int the past - but in the last months they do not have many new deaths. And that is the deciding factor. Italy or France had severe problems, but NOW they have a better grip on the situation than Sweden. meanwhile you have way over 500 deaths due to corona per 1 million residents in Sweden (it was 485 when I commented a few weeks ago), the share of other countries (deaths per million due to corona virus) have not moved during that time - because they got the case numbers down considerably and with a 3 week lag that will show (or rather NOT manifest) in the death numbers, as well. the pandemic and the spread is NOT under control, that it what you can see in the graphs. Not in the U.S., U.K. or Sweden.
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Sweden has 5 times the deaths per million than Germany (ratio to Austria is even worse). That is not a success story.
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Austria and Germany got the infections earlier, more tourism, Italy is nearby.
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there is a STEADY RISE in DEATH RATES - sign that Sweden does not have it under control.
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Sweden has one of the highest death counts PER capita in Europe. Or per millions. Dr. Campell made a mistake in the description box: they have over 500 per 1 million people (I think the mistake is that he gives the number per tenthousand residents). Germany has approx 100 deaths per million residents and Austria has under 80 (South Korea under 1). U.K. I think is over 600, and the U.S. over 400 (but in reality likely more in the U.S. expect them to undercount). In the U.S., U.K. Sweden the death numbers are still going up, not down. No flattening of the curve. I go by death numbers case numbers are hard to compare because rigorous testing could make a country look worse. In countries with a reasonable healthcare system and care for the elderly the death numbers should be the most reliable data (so not in the U.S.). They do not burden the ICU units with old patients in Sweden - obviously they let them die but keep them quiet with the palliative cocktail. and spare the caregives having to watch the struggle. Else they would have more old patients in the hospital and ICU beds - not fewer.
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The rate of increase may go down, but the absolute number of cases is STILL going up, steadily going up if you look at the curve. and they have the steepest curve among the weatlhy nations. The U.S. and U.K. are next - these 3nations do not have a grip on the pandemic, all other nations have flattened the curve when it comes to DEATHS - and cases. But not Sweden, not U.K. and not the U.S. Death numbers lag behind - but that does not look like the Swedish have a grip on things. As they do obviously avoid to treat old people they have no problem with overloading the system (unlike Italy). On the other hand they accepted to have approx. 4000 more dead people than necessary (I compare with German levels). and most of them are old people.
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10:27 CureVac is one of the companies that got lots and lots of money from the German government and was scooped up by one of the large players. And now they develop vaccines for new variants - they for sure have no interest in timely global vaccination so one type of vaccine will be enough. And idiotic politicians let themselves be lobbied.
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@Tommy Barlow yes but with a working strategy against a pandemic the deaths from corona are confirmed, it is necessary to do the tracing and testing. We had a flu pandemic in 2009, no one bothered to trace. The death numbers should be pretty accurate in first world countries (died FROM coronavirus - with exception of the U.S.).
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9:10 that looks like a STEEP exponential curve ! New variant that is more infectious ?
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Of course BoJo the moron did not stop traffic from India (that which is not absolutely necessary).
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Sweden has one of the highest death counts PER capita in Europe. Or per millions. Dr. Campell made a mistake in the description box: they have over 500 per 1 million people (I think the mistake is that he gives the number per tenthousand residents). Germany has approx 100 deaths per million residents and Austria has under 80 (South Korea under 1). U.K. I think is over 600, and the U.S. over 400 (but in reality likely more in the U.S. expect them to undercount). In the U.S., U.K. Sweden the death numbers are still going up, not down. No flattening of the curve. They do not burden the ICU units with old patients - obviously they let them die but keep them quiet with the palliative cocktail. Else they would have more old patients in the hospital and ICU beds - not fewer.
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@honestjohn7321 John Hopkins numbers over 500 deaths per million (versus let's say 100 in Germany) - deaths from corona virus of course. Sweden is at the top of Europe (or first world nations). Sweden has way over 4000 reported corona deaths so what does your 496 number mean. - 496 more per million would acutally rhyme well. You can multiply that times 10 (10 million of whatever Sweden has) that is the number of deaths more compared to a normal year.
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@Tommy Barlow that is not correct: death per million residents in Sweden over 500 - in Germany 100, other countries have less. considering the potential to spread - the additional deaths will come as by product.
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@atlet1 children do not get symptoms or very light ones - but they can spread the virus, of course they can. And they are sneaky spreaders, because you often do not know.
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The caretakers ! are in society - and if they are less likely to bring in the care homes than the elderly are also better protected. For instance child is asymptomatic (Children are more often), spreads it to mother, mother is a caretaker in a home. having staff between several homes AND not protective equipment. While having a loose approach.That cannot work.
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The deaths in Sweden, U.K., U.S. are constantly and steadily rising (other nations have flattened that curve as well. Case numbers may not be comparable, but deaths should be (I exclude the U.S. they likely sweep people under the rug that die alone home or in an underfunded care home).
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