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The idea that Sanders was threatend is not completly impossible - see a remark Larry Wilkerson made about the danger of being assassinated for a president that works against the status quo - the video is on youtube on The Real News channel, upload spring 2017: Wilkerson: Practically Everyone Opposes Trump's Reversal of Obama's Cuba Opening
That remark came more to the end of the video (it is worth listening till the end of the video - well the whole thing if you are interested in the Cuba situation) - Usually TRN has transcripts on THEIR site (and the youtube video is embedded), but not in this case so I made a partial transcript in the comments below the youtube video - I found it highly relevant !
Excerpt from the transcript
Larry Wilkerson Chief of Staff to Colin Powell: Obama might have risked being assassinated if he had chosen an anti-war, anti deep state stance.
Wilkerson: ...If I call President Obama for anything, it was his timidity, and his lack of courage. His lack of courage with respect to politics, and his lack of courage with respect to particularly his last three years in office. Where I know from talking with him personally, talking with him in the Roosevelt Room, that he understood.
He said [to me] there was a bias in this town towards war, with his Secretary of State sitting beside him. He said quote : "There's a bias in this town towards war" unquote. Well, he went on for another 20 minutes to elaborate on that.
Well, Mr. President if you knew that - why didn't you start doing something about it ? I mean, he could have done a lot more, if he'd had the political courage to do it ..... I think it's because, first you get trapped in that environment, and you want to make lots of money, and you wanna be very happy, and you wanna be very satisfied when you leave that office, especially if you're as young as he is.
And you realize that if you start these fights, if you start these battles, not only might you be assassinated, you're probably going to leave without anything like the dignity, and the honor, and the emoluments, and the fortune that he left with.
And I don't say that lightly, that's a very difficult decision to make, when you stand up for principle, when you stand up for the country, when you are a true patriot, you usually are punished, not rewarded.
the complete transcript of that comment (only) is under the video (on the youtube channel of The Real News) - usually they have a complete transcript and the youtube video embedded on their website - but in this case there is no transcript on their site.
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As for Sanders not necessarily SAYING all he KNOWS: He also had Stephanie Kelton and Bill Black as advisors of his campaign.
Black has a TEDx Talk (highly recommended, 18 fun and very instructive minutes). "The way to rob a bank is to own one".
Bill Black was part of the prosectuation of the Savings & Loan scandal in the 80s and has strong opinions on the last crisis and Wallstreet regulation.
Kelton is known as expert on MMT = Modern Monetary Theory (on youtube I recommend her "Deficit Owl" speech). If you do not know about MMT - it will shake up everything you thought you knew about money, the economy, deficits, debt, government budgets.
"Money does not grow on trees" - well actually it does - sort of.
A government that controls their own currency (as opposed to for instance the countries using the EURO) can create money and use it WISELY and for the common good, if the politicians know the concept and are WILLING to use it.
Preferably for smaller projects spread out over the country to engage citizens and a lot of (not too large) corporations. That increases accountability, transparencey, and reduces "playing the system" and corruption.
Kelton describes that she often explains the somewhat "counterintuitve" concept of MMT to decision makers and politicians. She said (I paraphrase):
"There are so much claims about money, the economy etc. out there, and these claims are very persistent.
But then there is the moment when they UNDERSTAND, you can clearly see it in their face.
And they do not dare to admit it."
Politicians shy away from MMT (and similar concepts) - they seem to fear what the unwashed masses would demand from them if the excuse/pretext of "We do not have the money" is debunked.
There CAN BE enough money (within a certain reasonable range) to finance projects for the common good (bridges, streets, sewage systems, education, childcare, mental health care, healthcare, green energy, medical and other research, addiction treatment, ....).
(Taxation is another way how the government can finance such projects - and needs to be considered of course. But it is not the ONLY way to fund a budget).
The only problem is: it would be clear that we do not need the money of rich investors to get anything financed. And that kind of economic system would benefit the regular people much more than it would profit the very wealthy or rich.
(For instance well funded public, non-profit childcare, colleges or social housing would dry up some very lucrative "investment niches" for the haves).
The Big Donors would not like it. At. All.
Note that Sanders did not talk about MMT on the campaign trail - although I assume he understands and knows the concept (so does Jeremy Corbyn of UK for instance).
It is not THAT hard to understand, but one most unlearn some myths that are widely used and have been propagated for decades, and it is not possible to introduce the concept in 5 or 10 minutes.
So just mentioning it would offer too many opportunities to misrepresent and ridicule the idea - there are many people around EAGERLY waiting for their chance.
Sanders' statement on the possibility to break up the banks during the primaries (interview by a panel of journalists) was misrepresented for instance. Not that he said something wrong, but they were ablo to put that spin on it.
Bill Black as expert set the story straight - but he appeared on the independent media on the internet only. The major newspapers or the Clinton campaign who ran with the claim ("Sanders talks about breaking up the banks and has no clue.") did not bother to retract their misleading statements and articles.
Hillary Clinton continued for a short time to use it (her donors gave her the marching orders no doubt - you bet they do not want a substantiated debate about "breaking up the big banks" and "regulating Wallstreet".
And of course Sanders could not devote too much time in his campaign speeches to explain the details - he just stated that it was necessary.
So as long as not a higher percentage of the population has at least a basic understanding of the concept of MMT, (and similar concepts and related issues) it does not make sense for a politician to make him or herself a target.
Come to think of it - Jill Sanders mentioned the idea of "QE For The People" after "QE For The Banks" (trillions were created for them in the U.S., UK and Euro zone) in her rare and rushed TV appearances.
John Oliver whom I usually like, immediately jumped at it and ridiculed her for it.
Which is funny since he is British and the Bank of England published information about the issue (see pdf: Money Creation in a Modern Economy) and so does the British non-profit positivemoney(dot)org.
If those two (Kelton and Black) would advise a likely future president (Sanders 2020 ?) - Wallstreet and the establishment in the Democratic Party (and additionally the leeches of International Finance) would shit their pants / run amok.
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To compare it with international politics: Russian - and sane, level headed other heads of states (China, U.S., France) never MENTION the option to use a nuclear bomb. If the Russians want to step up their game - they still do not use the outright term and threat.
Sometimes SAYING something is a game changer.
For Sanders saying that he would go third party would be the equivalent of the nuclear option (I think I would be among many being THRILLED). However: I think I understand the game that he is playing. And that he choses his battles (and maybe the timing) wisely.
Make no mistake - if he would go third party do not expect to hear one reasonable word about ISSUES either from the mainstream media or the The Dems. They would not like it of course (to put it mildly) but you bet they would treat it as horserace, circus - it might even replace Russia, Russia as main tool to deflect from talking policies.
The Dems (and their donors) hopefully already shit their pants - while hoping fervently that Sanders will NOT run in 2020.
I noticed that with Sanders: he has the "diplomtic" language thing nailed down. He is very diplomatic with WHAT he says - they are getting a warning shot from time to time (the Titanic remark in spring 2017 for instance).
He is not outright threatining them with going third party. Not - YET - burning the bridges. They KNOW he could do that - he does not have to tell them. And he would not need their infrastructure, money, connections, not even their grip on mainstream media.
I is a small satisfaction to imagine how that must drive them crazy.
It might be necessary at some point - to utter the threat. Or even to do it.
Maybe he will never have the courage, or the heart to risk a loss (due to a split in the vote).
Or he fears for his life or the safety of his family - that is not as crazy as it may sound * see Larry Wilkerson spring 2017, the Real News on youtube, title: Practically everyone opposes Trump's reversal of Obama's Cuba opening. - see my next comment
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* The danger of being assassinated for a president that works against the status quo - see The Real News video of spring 2017 on youtube
* Wilkerson: Practically Everyone Opposes Trump's Reversal of Obama's Cuba Opening
Excerpt from the transcript
Larry Wilkerson Chief of Staff to Colin Powell: Obama might have risked being assassinated if he had chosen an anti-war, anti deep state stance.
Wilkerson: ...If I call President Obama for anything, it was his timidity, and his lack of courage. His lack of courage with respect to politics, and his lack of courage with respect to particularly his last three years in office. Where I know from talking with him personally, talking with him in the Roosevelt Room, that he understood.
He said [to me] there was a bias in this town towards war, with his Secretary of State sitting beside him. He said quote : "There's a bias in this town towards war" unquote. Well, he went on for another 20 minutes to elaborate on that.
Well, Mr. President if you knew that - why didn't you start doing something about it ? I mean, he could have done a lot more, if he'd had the political courage to do it ..... I think it's because, first you get trapped in that environment, and you want to make lots of money, and you wanna be very happy, and you wanna be very satisfied when you leave that office, especially if you're as young as he is.
And you realize that if you start these fights, if you start these battles, not only might you be assassinated, you're probably going to leave without anything like the dignity, and the honor, and the emoluments, and the fortune that he left with.
And I don't say that lightly, that's a very difficult decision to make, when you stand up for principle, when you stand up for the country, when you are a true patriot, you usually are punished, not rewarded.
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the shill is Robin Young (went to the website, but read only the summary, looks like Tulsi held her own as she always did in those hostile situtations). her bio: Robin Young brings more than 25 years of broadcast experience to her role as host of Here & Now. She is a Peabody Award-winning documentary filmmaker who has also reported for NBC, CBS and ABC television and for several years was substitute host and correspondent for "The Today Show."
.....Robin was born on New York’s Long Island, attended Ithaca College in upstate New York and has lived and worked in Manhattan, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles, but Boston is her hub.
Yep, she represents the interests of the top 10 % and likely has that background. And for them the status quo works, fine, war and military contracts are lucrative and THEIR kids are not enlisting. Plus: their taxes have been cut time and again since the 1980s, so they are also no paying for the war adventures.
the country needs to take out loans from private investors (= offering bonds). Instead of paying more taxes, they like to use those bonds for investments. At the end they get the money back AND interest on a yearly base. THAT finances the wars and the military spending.
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For plantations you ideally have cheap labor. In the beginning it was indentured poor migrants from Europe (had to work for free for years to pay for passage) but if they survived, then they had to let them go. And people would rather work their own small plot, or try their luck in other places and industries, than slave away for the rich aristocrats from Europe that tried to increase their fortunes (or restore them) in the colonies.
In Europe servitude was fading out and there were simply not enough people to match demand. They tried to create a supply with harsh laws (the British sent poor people as serfs of the criminal system to the colonies, a lot to Australia, they got deported for next to nothing). But the pretense had to be maintained: that the CITIZENS had done something "wrong" before. There were not enough people to take over the land and fast with volunteers.
This is also the reason for generous laws regarding religious freedom in the U.S. The Spanish insisted on colonists being Catholic. The British were much more pragmatic, and it helped them to get more people.
Although anti Catholic, anti Irish, Italian, Polish * .... and anti Jewish sentiment was gladly and often used in political campaigns in the U.S. in the 19th century.
* also class: many POOR people came from these countries and the work force was pitted against each other.
The country was large - white serfs could flee, it was easier to have a grip on people of color who stood out.
The crops that could be planted in the South and in the North were different. The farms in the North were a fit for the family farm, but for tobacco and indigo, cotton and sugar they wanted the very cheap labor for large plantations (typically set up by people that had been rich in Europe). This was not the family farm model.
The French, British and Spanish went to war with each other and killed each other - but they did not enslave each other. The Catholic Church did not allow that, and it would have been frowned upon in Protestant culture too.
So the wealthy in Europe could not just kidnap their own poor (or prisoners of war in an occasional war) and exploit them in the new land.
And the workforce standing out (optics) did have advantages. In case they tried to flee.
Plus it was easier to "other" them if they looked different.
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The shooter and the driving officer LIED. they made up the story how other people were in the park, they thought they were in danger, and so shooting immediately seemed to be necessary. - The morons did not realize there were cameras in the park. There wasn't one other person in the park for 20 minutes or so.
they had no time to check out IF there were people in the park.
Tamir was alone all the time, waiting for a relative to pick him up, and idling his time away while holding the toy gun.
Now, the shooter was the target of a criminal investigation and might be allowed lie to save his ass (they can do so in a trial), not sure if that immunity applies if it is an investigation about the conduct of a police member.
But the driver was a witness: if they did not plan this ahead, then HE was not implicated, he could not have hindered his collegue, it was going way too fast: opening the door and lethally wounding Tamir in less than 5 seconds. Again - watch the footage.
And if a witness lies to protect the target of an investigation that is a criminal offense.
No consequences for that either.
They were busted with the camera footage, but in the end THAT did not matter either. The driver might still happily work for the police.
The killer does not work for the police (most likely) but is free to enjoy his life and work in another profession. Likely police union got him a job in security related biz.
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