Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Thom Hartmann Program"
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The old among the primary voters (South Carolina ! due to the influence of Clyburn) have chosen Biden, and the younger could not be bothered to come out in sufficient numbers for Sanders. So The Democratic exercise of testing how little they can give to the voters and how much they can backpaddle on the (few) campaign promises continues. After all the Republicans reliably come up with terrible candidates, so voters have nowhere to go - Well until the clueless but increasingly angry sheeple will go for the next Trump, who will be not so stupid as the former one.
Biden just eeked out a win. In an election with 160 million votes cast it came down to 43,200 votes in 3 states (AZ 10,500 GA 12,000 WI 20,700). PA was won with 81,000 more votes and that was the most "solid" win in the 4 states that were nailbiters (because it was so close that they needed days of counting the mail ballots. A more decisive win of at least over 2 % like in MI and NV also manifests earlier, the statisticians can project that earlier.
But Biden absolutely needed 2 out of the 4 in any combination. Pennsylvania was not obligatory, but Biden needed at least 2 to come at least at 270 (with the 2 smallest = AZ and WI).
The 7 million more in the popular vote & still lost the election in the Electoral College were a real possibility.
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some accountability because voters can vote (typically 80 - 85 % turnout) in other rich democracies.
It is easy to vote, 15 minutes wait time would be considered extraordinary. Mind you that is with paper ballot, and hand count, and typically 70 - 85 % turnout.
70 % would the local races in smaller communities, there typically the center right parties have solid majorities and even people that vote differently on the state and national level are O.K. with the mayor, and the council. If not, it is not hard to form a local opposition and straighten out the local establishment.
The hand count for EVERY election happens in every polling station (and of course they keep the ballots as proof), and the result is signed off by the election board whose members were there all day watched the ballot box, the checking off on lists and each other - and then did the counting together. The board consists of civil servants (getting Sunday overtime pay) and volunteers or election helpers on behalf of all parties.
Then they report the numbers per polling station for tabulation, which are numbers the voters can find out (although the numbers that are widely reported are aggregated at the city / town / village level. In a village they have only one polling station, but in the cities they aggregate the numbers, people like to know "how my town / state voted" so that is more convenient. But voters, journalists, independent statisticians can get the raw date PER polling station.
At that BASIC level rigging per polling station is almost impossible (they would have to bribe all board members) and on top of that it would be utterly pointless because it coult not change the outcome. If one polling station (which represens from 500 to a few 1000 people) would have "unusual" results, they STILL would not make a dent, but they would draw attention. The civil servants that are responsible that the procudures are followed, would get into trouble or major trouble (losing jobs, pensions, of course legal prosecution - and even ardent volunteers that root for one party strongly, would not do it. Normal people do not try to rig elections, they just don't).
If regions have a power blackout - they still could hold the elections. (I guess it could delay processing the data, but it would not hinder the voters to cast the vote).
The "tech" is robust, they system is completely safe from rigging. and the tech is "off grid". There is no chance to arrange for old machines, and technical glitches to disadvantage certain areas with certain voters. You cannot mess with paper ballot and pen and cubicles and voter lists printed in advance. If they can't print the lists within 2 weeks or cannot provide all polling stations with a sufficient number of ballots and envelopes - they would not have any plausible deniability.
There are no "convenient technical glitches" possible (in low income areas) Mind you, Corporate Dems ALSO do not want THOSE people to vote in the primaries. If the ballot is more complicated (or they combine it with local races to save costs) and that could create a bottle neck - well have a few more cubicles and pens. It is very easy to scale that up, there are not more "machines" needes.
The voter rolls are printed in 2 weeks before the election. The turnout is predictable, and even if they would expect unusually high turnout, it is low cost and easy to scale it up. Let's say from 70 to 80 %, or 80 to even 90 % for big races: more cubicles, more pens, and printing enough ballots is easy, low cost, and can be arranged quickly.
It does not matter much cost-wise (considering the total costs of the elections, staff is the most expensive) if you print 20 million or 25 million ballots, there are fix costs - once the printers start the machines ... Nor should it be a problem in a first world country to provide each and every polling station with enough ballots and some reserves. They have to sign off on them, and they must account for the unused ones, after the election is over.
Not being on the voter rolls is unheard of (citizens have to announce if they move, all nations figured out a way to have a reliable (central )register. Most nations have a central register (not the U.K) from there many important informations (birth, marriage, death, school, child benefits, driving licence ....) and also the voter rolls are taken. Updating THAT information is easy as well if citizes move, and of course young adults get the voter invitaiton (that everyone gets) as soon as they reach the age where they will be eligible to vote on election day. And like everbody else the invitations for every other race.
Only in the U.K. they have to register for their first vote, and then whenever they move out of district. But that is VERY easy and the overwhelming majority do it online. The votes are handcounted, paper ballot, election is on a workday (most nations vote on sunday or holiday) BUT the polling stations are open from morning till 10 pm and there are plenty of polling stations. People CAN vote even on a busy day. No long waiting times, and polling stations are nearby.
In the U.S. it is a byzantine system, and the Democrats have no interest in changing that.
I saw a video of the Sanders campaign how to vote in the primaries in California- and in the comment sections there were statements that seemed to expand the information (what you also must not overlook, that was not even mentioned in the video. You MUST have the original envelope, if you automatically got your mail ballot and it is not the right one - a cross over. After a certain time voters could not reform that online, they only could vote in person. Hello long lines. AND they absolutely needed to have the original ballot AND the envelope).
It is byzantine, complicated, as hassle, you need to watch a 10 minute video if you prefer to not be registered as Democrat (which frankly would be the easiest way in CA if you want to vote in the D primaries - and then switching back).
Many hours of waiting times ? In primaries AND in the general ? Developing poor countries are doing better.
Updated voter rolls in countries with functioning ! elections:
Only when you are lazy with updating your residency / domicile OR you end up in the 2 week period (where they start to print the voter lists for the polling stations so they cannot adjust the info anymore), you either have to ask for a mail ballot. There are time limits - typically 4 - 7 days before the election you have to ask for it, 4 for the big races. They need some time reserves to adminstrate that as well.
But typically updating that info is necessary if you rent,drive a car - the typical exception are college students. The classic is the phone call 6 - 8 weeks before the elction. Mum calling the out of town student: We got your invitation to vote in the mail - are you coming home for election weekend ? (of course they vote on Sundays or holidays).
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