Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Cop Steps On Woman's Head During Wellness Check" video.

@iluvbabiepanda This was a WELLNESS CHECK. Let's say she was a "problem" before (and that cop happened to deal with her before). Cop is STILL is not allowed to use the privilege (given by society) to use force beyond anything that is necessary and stop force immediatley when it is not necessary anymore. Cops come across mentally ill, drunk, or rude people. Of course they will not always be reasonable or cooperative. Or nice and well groomed for that matter. I think many wellness checks happen with people you would not invite to a party (even if they are not "off"). Not all of them are cute if slightly demented old lost ladies. Some may be alcoholics, hoarders, stinky, dumb and rude. So what ? - it comes with the the territory. A MacDonalds worker cannot jump at a rude customer, and police should not do it either if their CLIENTS and interventions are challenging - except the minimal necessary force to keep the public, the person and police safe. It is NOT their job or privilege to punish civilians if they feel annoyed (which may or may not be justified). Actually a cop should be able to get above being annoyed. Very much like a LOT of service workers, doctors, nurses, firefighters, ... have to keep it classy and professional.
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@iluvbabiepanda A cop is NOT allowed to act out on feeling annoyed and "punish" the citizens (imagine doctors and nurses doing that when coming across erratic, difficult to work with patients). Cop was pissed and did not care if she harmed her and / or wanted not to have to call backup into the house, nor engage the help of neighbours. (I would help in such a case, 2 or 3 persons can transport her easily and w/o hassle or brutality). Two persons could have supported the young woman and put her into the vertical, much safer regarding vomitting. This was NOT an arrest but a wellness check. If the person is drunk or has taken drugs - yes that happens. She obviously was not a dangerous criminal and this was not even an arrest but a WELLNESS CHECK.
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@iluvbabiepanda There is another aspect: people that have diabetes 1 can also behave like being drunk (they got their insuline wrong, are not disciplined with their eating, they are unlucky and their metabolism reacts somewhat erratic to insuline. They might need help, sometimes even urgent medical care. Hard to adjust diabetes 1 used to be an issue for some in the past (might have gotten better with the small portable devices they have now). Or people have other diseases, or temporary conditions that make them act weirdlx (and that is without even considering mental illness, or being mentally disabled). Never assume that a person is drunk or on drugs and is even responsible for the state they are in, most are - but not all. (not that it should matter, most of us have done something stupid at least once in our life, that could have ended badly. If only driving too fast, not keeping enough distance to the next vehicle, some risky skiing maneuvres, ...). The sister in law of a work collegue had a car accident, she was sober, but she came on black ice. Rural area, she was alone in the car (not sure if the car wreck was visible when driving on the street, I think not). She could walk, had a concussion, no cell phone. She walked on the street and a few cars even drove by (locals in that area), but she was not able to stop any of them. Consider this was a young woman, and they also could have called the cops (after they arrived at their destination, probaly no cell service there) if they were wary about it being a trap, not that this was likely in that area. Likely they all thought she was a drunk woman wandering along in the middle of a cold Novemember night (which in itself would be a reason to pick her up and give her a ride). It took her one hour or more to get help. Not that it should play a role if they are to "blame" for the incoherent state they are in - but a seemingly drunk / drugged / disabled / mentally ill / suicidal person should not be expected to behave rational. Or that they even can comply with orders by police.
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@iluvbabiepanda Use of force ONLY in each and every case IF and as long as that is necessary. If he woman was incapacitated, the officer had no idea if she would do HARM to her. She could have arrested the door and called for the help of a neighbour. If they are not legally allowed to do that. Well get her out of the apartment, as gently as possible and wait for the ambulance.
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