Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Kim Iversen"
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For student ID's red states invented requirments that NO college meets. That was carefully crafted, it is a feature not a bug. If they categorically exclude all student ID's that might be challenged in court. They just happen to demand a form of ID that does not exist in the real world. If nothing else is "wrong" or missing they can make unrealistic demands on expiry date.
The colleges do check the identity of the students but they do not issue them with a very long validity. So even if colleges react and put everthing on the card the law requires (full name, address, SS number, photo, space for signature) - Republicans can just demand absurdly long expiry dates (way beyond election date) - and if the ID does not have that (duh !) this ID cannot be used for voting.
if people work their way through college they are smart to make do w/o car, and college towns and cities mightbe better regarding public transportation, or they live on campus. So the demographic of not rich College students has an obstacle in voting and easy and spontanuous access to voting. If they sit on the fence they cannot decide that they will vote this time after all. And it helps to close the polling stations at college campus, that also is an obstacle for easy votes.
Again folks with car and a gun licence, driver's licence (of this state) or passport are good, for them it is easy. The Republicans do not mind of that subset of young people vote - they get more votes from them.
It is known that time and effort to get ID or to get at the polling station suppresses turnout. That is a good thing in the eyes of Republicans - they cannot win if turnout is high. Corporate Dems have the same situation in primaries this is when they would rather not have the poor, disabled, eldery and young folks vote.
I kinda get that the student ID would be required to be valid at the point when it is shown, at least that is not an absurd requirement (although that the person may have dropped out of college last year or a few months ago does not change who they are - in many European countries IF an ID is even required they can use a driver's licence that was issued DECADES ago, or a passport that has expired years ago. As long as the photo resembles the person somewhat .... ;)
No one really objects to photos from 50 years ago. I mean, HOW would the person get their hands on that ID, and what are the odds that someone with criminal energy would use that for casting ONE more vote ???
The rare cases are mostly Trump supporters, they are gullible enough to believe the fairy tales how easy it is to cheat - and they are not used to thinking things through.
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4:00 "You shouldn't be an R or D but evaluate every election." - I would argue that having only ! 2 parties makes that impossible, there is not enough nuance possible if it is either black or white. And of course 2 parties are VERY easily captured by special interests.
Spoilers and the lesser evil are not a thing in other countries. Or scolding blaming voters and outsider candidates for daring to use the most important rights in a democracy.
Active and passive voting rights. To vote whom you like the best and to RUN for office no matter how likely it is that you will win (this time).
To round if off nicely. Incensed Hillary Clinton might have remained the wife of the govenor of AK, had it not been for independent candidate Ross Pereot who got almost 19 % of the popular vote.
Not measly 1 % like Jill Stein or 3 % like Garry Johnson (If we accept the logic that Stein may have cost HRC some votes - Johnston cost Trump MORE).
In the U.S. the voters for small parties are scolded and blamed. Not the very numberous non-voters and also not the people that vote for the other party.
THEY do not threaten the status quo and the grip of the 2 parties.
Especially the Dems declare how the voters OWE them the vote, they literally villify voters for voting for a perfectly reasanble mild mannered, rational candidate (like Jill Stein), early on some even calcualted with the votes that they the Garry Johnson voters deprived them off (Dude was a former Republican I do not know where they even saw the affinity. O.K. they thought the more reasonable Republicans would not go with Trump and also "owed" HRC their vote.
They could as well have blamed all Trump voters for not voting for her.
Democracy could be so nice without the pesky voters ....
Such entitlement is UNTHINKABLE in other democracies. Whatever the losers think after the lost election, they will never, ever blame the voters for not supporting them.
Usually it is a version of: Our bad, we did good in the past, but were not good enough to communicate our good work. Or there were outside influences (state or federal politics, if there are scandals it can do harm at races on other levels. Federal politics harming the race in a state / province. A local scandal influencing federal election results.
The rich landowners, the 1 % of the colonies that had a quarrel with the 1 % of the British empire set up the new Republic after the model of the British parliament. They had a parliament - but NOT a democracy. The parliament represented the interests of the aristocrast, the crown and of course the rich merchants, financiers, industral leaders, coal barons.
The parliament was the opposition of rich commoners to the aristorcracy. And for that 2 parties were good enough.
The founders made sure to have a system that can be easily controlled by the rich and the status quo forces.
In any other democracy * there would have emerged at least 2 other parties and they would chase the establishment. It shows in the policies.
* The UK also has the First past the post system and it is also not possible for a party outside the 2 mainstream parties to win elections BUT even they have managed to have a few other parties, and 2 - 3 might play a role (after the snap election may only had the majority because of an obscure rightwing Irish party).
In all other countries they have popular vote and even smaller parties can quickly become relevant (they need around 5 % to get funding and seats in parliament). Even a tiny party can become important as coalition partner, becoming the little hinge that swings big doors.
So there is a tiny bit incentive even in the UK to throw a few bones to the voters.
And in all other democracies they have to appease the voters more (not the other way round) because the voters do have alternatives. The alternatives can manifest quickly if the voters are really pissed.
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@magicblanket In my experience "normal" people do not hold a generation long grudge against a regime that dispossessed their parents or triggered them to flee. Like Kims family. - Also see Europe after WW2, Germans had to flee and lost everything. Hungarians and Czechosolovacs fled their countries in the 1950s and 1970s (Soviets crushed reform attempts). These people built a new life mainly in Germany and Austria, they could - the economy was doing well - and if they made it into the (lower) middle class they were content.
after the Soviet Union dissolved, and the Warsaw Pact states opened, there was a discussion if the German minorities (or their descendents) that were dispossessed back in the day, would / could ask for their property back (civilians were driven out at the end of WW2).
The groups that represent them and preserve the culture also advised not to ask for restitution. People live now in these homes, they had been maintained, rebuilt, etc.
It would have been a mess, not to mention the strife with the new nations that fromed (Czechia and Slovakia separated). It may not have been polictically feasible, but the people did not even ask for it, they were able to let go of that.
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@bobb1138 This has nothing AT ALL to do with free speech. She is elected and can fulfill her role (Kim got that wrong she cannot "at least" vote and speak on the floor these are main features of her job, a lot of Congress people do NOT have any committee positions. She is not entitled to a committee position (or two).
The constitution does not protect her right to have one. She is free to run her mouth in the awarded time on the floor on twitter and social media (if they will have her) and on her onw website and in interviews. Plus of cours on OAN, Fox and Newsmax. She is desperate to be in the limelight so she will continue to drag down the party and drive away the Corporate Donors. Will suppress R votes and will activate the D votes. Mitch the Obstructionist is no dummy, he detests her. He has just gotten rid of Trump and here is the next major problem ?
The vote was more to force the Republicans to take a stand ;) They have pandered to the lowest instincts, made political hay of riling up people (The Dems at least go after a foreign nation and not citizens of their own country) - and now a part of them are out of control and they fear them. They are damned if they keep Moronic Marjorie and play nice with Trump and they are damned if they dont't. They have two voting blocks, need both to win and will offend either one of them.
She is a certified moron and if the Republican grifters (the GA party knew, some of them were worried, but they were a little worried that Biden could do well, and even more worried about the 2 senate seats of Georgia. And in general to align her fans that are typically hardcore Trump supporters.
Allegedly her followers mobbed her opponent so he dropped out of the race and left the district.
They did not have the good sense to kick her out from the primary race (she could have run as Independent, good luck with that) and now do not dare to kick her out from Congress (which they could do with 2 thirds or 70 % of the vote) - then they should at least not reward her with appointments to committees. Education to add insult to injury.
And here we thought Betsy DeVos was a joke in her position.
With good reason an elected representative should be hard to be removed from office - but it should be possible (scandals, ethically challenged, to enable prosecution, deranged behavior, mental illness that makes them unfit and they have no insight). Most nations have provisions to strip someone of immunity from prosecution and / or to force them to step down if they do not have the decency (for instance when a scandal breaks).
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