Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "The Lincoln Project"
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@Jose-Gonzalez-cfl The big donors like their Republicans to be fierce ideologues and their Democrats to be spineless opportunists. Both beholden to the big donors. Of course Dems hardly ever fight, take a stance or try to shape and alter public opinion (Repubs do that all the time) - why would opportunists bother ?
They are paid to win primaires against labor friendly / New Deal style candidates and progressives. Then they manage to be underhanded and to fight fiercly just fine. Then they are on message with the talking points provided by the lobbyists.
sure, Corporate Dems would like to also win the general. But from the viewpoint of the donors that is not necessary. The ballot will offer voters the "choice" between candidates that are beholden to them.
The D primaries are the most important elections in the U.S.
For Corporate Dems nothing is more important than to keep the big donors happy, to keep their money flowing in, and the chance for a cushy job for ex politicians. In case they lose because they cannot run on a platform of economic populism (which would give them landslide wins) they have to try and pull it off with lame Republican Lite messaging. the obedient shills will get a golden parachute if they lose.
The style is a little different. They will try to rile uup the base over issues that do not cost the big donors (abortion, guns, gay marriage - both sides of the issues. The donors do not care about the outcomes. They might have preferences, but as long as they get their tax cuts, deregulation, trade deals, ...)
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The Trump base only needs to hear "liberal" and it is over. a story to illuminate that. I read comment of young man in the South that was very enaged in a smaller town in the local church. Throughout childhood and teenage years, also a lot of voluteering. he was deeply devoted to it - later it turned out they were a bunch of hypocrites, congregations and staff plus pastors. And gullible.
a new pastor came in (turned out later he HAD to leave the former congregation, the husband of his mistress had found eveidence for the affair of the married pastor, he and his buddies drove out the pastor and threatened him.
Soon after he had arrived and had charmed his way into the adult congregations (those who donate) he started smear campaigns against the incumbent more senior pastors. At least the young man suspected that, rumours came up, and it was not like that before. One can assume new pastor tried to get the more senior position eventually.
When it was time for that young man to get a small paid position after years of volunteering rumours against him started, too. Plus he wanted a recommendation of the incumbent pastor for a certain religious school, so he could become a pastor, too.
He has no idea why and how he became a target. The older pastor did not dare give him the recommendation and that hurt him much more than not getting the paid part time job.
The new pastor had the talent to make himself very popular with the adults of the old and the new congregation, among other things by breathing fire when it came to the youth, and the youth organisations. His motto was that they had to be on a very short leash, etc. The middle aged and older people liked that talk, young people not so much. So they lost all that were not forced by their parents, which was sold as a positive, as a cleanse.
The young man started to ask his friend what twas talked about him: One of smears: That he had brought his fiance to a clinic to have a secret abortion (hard to disprove that). and: He had been arrested on drugs and his father had bailed him out and hushed that up with money. (again how do you disprove that a prosecution was prevented).
The new pastor that wanted the job and top position of the (cowardly) pastor started rumours that the old pastor was "too liberal".
the narrator: In a church in a Southern town like ours that is the kiss of death, and no one wanted to know what that even means, never mind that the congregation knew that pastor for many years. it was enough to scare the more senior pastor and make him tolerate whatever the new man was up to (they have a system of payment and hiring where a relatively small but engaged group of the congregation can get easily someone fired, so they have to be at their toes all the time).
Anyway: that is Trump voter material. people that would turn on their no doubt conservative (reactionary) pastor w/o any proof, or any specifics. A person they have know for decades most likely.
The Lincoln project are the Bush era war mongering Republicans with neoliberal policies (so pretty much like most of the Democrats). You bet they would not like to be the Democrats what the Repbulicans were in the 1980s.
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The people that now STILL support Trump are in a cult. Because they WANT to be riled up, to despise, to hate even. Note how Republicans NEVER try to convince Democrats or try to win a value discussion, they just plough ahead with the smears and the propaganda. They do not try to win over the base, they activate and rile up their base.
Meanwhile spineless Democrats validate R economic arguments and cower if the S word (Socialist) is used. Repubs call Obama a Socialist Communist for crying out loud. They now try to paint Harris and Biden with that brush.
Don't we wish.
The Lincoln project are the Bush era war mongering Republicans with neoliberal policies (so pretty much like most of the Democrats. No wonder they have the same big donros). You bet those Republicans would now like the Democrats what the Repbulicans were in the 1980s. They gladly let the Republican party drift to the right because then helped with the other agenda (war and neoliberal economics and tax cuts). Riling up the base (about issues that do not cost the donors, no matter what comes out of it) - abortion, guns, gay marriage, transgernders in bathrooms.
But now they do not like the monster they created - Trump is just too embarrassing. But the Bush type Repubs do not like the crazy trump base, and the D establishment does not like the base that wants FDR style policies.
Now the affluent better educated Republicans and the people behind the Lincoln project would glady have the Democrats join them (not the other way round, mind you). And the Corporate Dems would gladly officially be the Republican Lites.
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