Comments by "Xyz Same" (@xyzsame4081) on "Rebel HQ"
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please go to info@berniesanders.com and beg the campaign so that Sanders does NOT play the surrogate FOR Biden. People like the ideas of Sanders, "but later, now it is time to beat Trump". *
They vote for Biden over Sanders because they think Joe is a) a nice guy and b) he is BETTER or well able to beat Trump. - and Sanders CONFIRMS THAT (Joe is my friend, and yes he can beat Trump, of course he can). - It is not even true.
- I very much dispute that Biden can beat Trump unless the economy tanks completely. Biden is likely in cognitive decline, at the minimum he has much less stamina than Sanders, he does a light schedule, many "gaffes", not to mention how much BAGAGGE Biden has.
Sanders should say: I am better because I have proven myself in a rigorous LONG campaign, and there are many issues where I can drag Trump, but Biden can't go there or is vulnerable (Iraq war, and trade deals, plus family corruption, the Biden family made hundreds of millions). Biden is status quo regarding healthcare and NO cuts to pharma costs and Trump is not better.
Trump didn't hold his promise regarding healthcare. THAT should sway some of his supporters (or keep them at home).
Studies (how to persuade people): People that lean to the right do not react well to appeals on empathy (so the separated children are not a reason for them to not vote for Trump, also no empathy for dreamers, at least not enough to overcome their perceived self interest).
But right wingers appreciate holding promises and LOYALTY.
Sanders CAN hit Trump on that, Biden can't
ALSO: Sanders IS the stronger debater.
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Despite all the hype it is NOT PROVEN that is was a hack, let alone a hack ordered by the Russian gov.. More likely a LEAK. William Binney former technical director of the NSA working for a solution for 24/7 total surveillance: If data travels over the net there is a track record and there is NO way the NSA does NOT HAVE it (if someone remote accessed the DNC and then extracted the data they would be sent over the web, there is no other physical possibility). And it would be SAFE to show the evidence - it would not reveal methods or sources - there are claims like that and they are false (from a mere technical or IT point of view). So if they have the evidence they could present it without any disadvantages, they did so immediately after the SONY hack (this I know from a McAffee interview, on ? RT) - so why don't they just show the damn evidence.
Julian Assange on the other hand explicitely said: it was a LEAK not a hack. Craig Murray former ambassador of UK, kicked out because of his integrity (reg. brutal dictator of Uzbekistan). He works now for Wikileaks, he claims that he got the data in physical form (USB stick or something like that) from an disgusted insider of the DNC in a park in Washington. When the data is saved internally on an USB-stick and then handed over in person of course there are no tracks about this web traffic the NSA could show to us.
NSA are usually the ones that have the experts for hacking and they help out the other agencies like the CIA (again I heard that from Binney) - and they were the only agency that had "medium" certainty that it was a hack and ordered by Russia (see the report from all agencies from January 2017). All other agencies had "high confidence" . The comprehensive report of all agencies speculates about Putins psychological motives for the alleged hack. The also state the "negative" fact that RT (yes Russia Today the Russian sponsored successful TV station) reported about fracking, hosted Third Party debates and repeatedly mentioned Wall Stret greeds. All these subversive activities intend to incite dissatisfaction within the audience (I am paraphrasing, but it is true, the report OBSESSES with RT and their reporting on the aformentioned topics.
It would almost be funny if it was not so chilling. Monthy Python material.
This would not be the first time the agencies carry the water for powerful politicians - and their networks and donors - the Hillary canp and that includes many corporations are pissed off that she lost.
They instinctevely sense that establishment politics with all the lobbyism, cosy jobs, networking inside the bubble, the revolving door, the safe seat because of gerrymandering and/or the lesser of 2 evils - all that will be challenged now (because of Sanders, and partially because the Trump success shows the extent of dissatisfaction among voters).
They LOSE CONTROL ABOUT THE PUBLIC NARRATIVE. (Erdogan of Turkey found that out a few years earlier). Politicians, think tanks, the Military Industrial Complex, corporations, Israel above everything else AIPAC, the top 10 % have a tight grip on the networks and news papers (many of these players are major shareholders).
Potential Democratic voteRS do not get their info from Fox News - so it does not matter for the Democratic establishment what they air.
RT, however is more and more watched as alternative source of information. And they have the young and potential Democratic voters (especially if they are interested in progressive causes).
So the (Democratic) Establishment GOES BALLISTIC.
Now it does not look like Trump will really "drain the swamp" so they can relax on that front (taxes, regulations). But it looks like they lost TPP and a lot of people are unhappy about the danger that the Cold War 2.0 might end as well.
Lots of reasons for them to discredit Trumps presidency with allegations of Russian interference - as if he needed help with discrediting. The things that are really bad are for instance the Wallstreet guys and other rich people in the cabinet, the hostile attitude towards Iran, and that healthcare may become even worse etc. And that is nothing the Corporate Dems want to dwell on.(Obama , Clinton anyone ?). Better complain about "he won unfairly with help of Russia, which is BTW supposed to be the US arch enemy".
Better avoid the dangerous topics.
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+ LB - I feel you - they sense they fight a losing battle. - P.S. I live in Europe, the healthcare IS good here - and no, government does not run things, there are no death panels, and the waiting times are reasonable - and immediate care functions. Who cares if you have to wait one month more for your hip replacment or have to accept to go to a hospital that is not the nearest (so the visitors have to drive longer).
I was shocked to find out how much more cost efficient the systems with the public non-profit insurance agencies are (take the German or Austrian per capita expenditures, then slap 65 or 70 % on them and you are at the U.S. level - source world bank 2014, the U.S. had per capita expenditures of 9,200, Germany and Austria 5,600 resp. 5,400. Note that the population is older on average, which is much more expensive. The U.S. is meanwhile at over 10,000 USD per capita in 2016, but I do not have the current German data.
But of course even at the German price level (Germany is at the higher end of the average for a wealthy European country - they are usually between 5k and 5,5 k) - that means plus 22k per year for a family of four.
That is much for low income families. So the solidarity principle means that people if they have a job pay a percentage of their wage, the employer pays the same, and on top there is tax funding. Risk and family size does not matter, only your income. And no more payment when you need treatment.
HOWEVER: All of that means that the upper middle class pays more (if they and their family are healthy, if they have a preexisting conditon they will still save money with the streamlined cost-efficient system). And it requires some tax funding which again hits wealthy and rich people more.
Also it limits the profits of those for-profit players that are even allowed in the system. (like the pharma industry, the family doctors - they are independent small businesses, or church run non-profit hospitals, that have a contract and cannot charge what they want. They do not send the bill to the patient but to the public agency - so if they wanted to play games - that would be their opponent.
And the worst: it violates the article of faith the the private market is always better and will magically fix all things.
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Another note: Europe get's almost all it's oil from other continents. It arrives at seaports and then is distributed with trucks and on the rail - and one never hears about these horrible accidents like in the U.S Hint: it helps if the infrastructure (streets, railway) is kept in good order. Europe is much more densely populated (520 millions approx. but has only 67 % of the land mass of the U.S. who has a population of 323 million). So there would be naturally more resistance to a pipeline, using up ground, going through or nearby settlements etc., the landscape is more varied - mountain ranges in the way of a direct line - and these are the areas where land is especially valuable. These are also touristic areas, so the locals are naturally more protective of the environment and would not be happy with a oil pipeline. Gas (from Russia) is transported in pipelines. So the transport of oil is done on wheels and it works well and is safe HERE. It is possible that they also use shipping on streams - but a spill even though bad would be manageable - it is only a certain amount that can spill, it will not leak unnoticed by the population for over years and people are getting poisoned without knowing it. Usually not the complete load will run out and emergency measures can be taken to avoid the worst (like barriers downstream, siphoning off etc.). And then the streams are not meant to provide drinking water (although they are very clean at least in Germany, Austria, Switzerland). The drinking water in the countries in the moderate climate zone (read: enough rain) comes from wells and aquifers and vehicles transporting oil have to avoid the "protected water source areas" if that is possible, even if the route is longer.
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The two oil crises in the 1970s (doubling oil prices with 18 months etc.) triggered rising unemployment in combination with high inflation.
The "haves" finally, finally could hit back against the New Deal.
From then on they took over media, academia, politics.
Raising interest rates soon enough after cyclical downturns were used "to discipline the workforce" (Alan Greenspan).
Later trade deals cost so many jobs that the fear of job loss was ALWAYS present. From then on interests rates could remain low = cheap money for the speculators, real estate developers, ....
It meant undermining the negotiating power of the workforce with a residue of unemployment even in a good economy. They could easily be fired and replaced (with many McJobs)- so no fighting for their fair share anymore.
That helped with suppressing the wages, letting folks make unpaid overtime, etc. etc. Even under a good economy and fairly good employment ** the workforce was kept on their toes.
** "employment" (in the survey done by the Bureau of Labor Statistics) means 10 hours and upwards (of course also way beyond 40 hours)
No one asks in the phone survey if the person would like or need to work MORE hours, the current "low unemployment" does not lead to increasing wages (adjusted for inflation) - so there must be many people that are underemployed or feeling _ job-insecure jobs._
Else we would see wages rising. (If your company can pack up tomorrow, even though they have good business it will lead to the desired meek and fearful workforce.
Job insecurity was intentionally created using "free" "trade" agreements that made outsourcing possible, safe and lucrative.
Bill Clinton"achieved" a lot of it (of course with bipartisan support of bought and paid for Congress). And the presidents after him did not even dream of challenging that "legacy".
Under Bush1 NAFTA did not get passed. Bill Clinton duped the unions with promises - he needed them to get elected.
A few years later he made favorable tariffs for Chinese imports de facto permanent (an Executive Order handed the decision over to the State Department instead of having Congress approving them on a yearly base). And around 2000 came another agreement with China).
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@trl2828 ??? I live in a country with single payer - it works in nations with 300,000 people (Iceland) 3 - 4 millions (Denmark, Norway), 7 - 10, 30 millions. Or approx. 65 million (Italy, France, U.K. - the latter do not have even HALF the per capita expenditures of the U.S. - the NHS of the U.K. is underfunded, however.
But for 55 - 65 % of the U.S. expenditures per person a nation can have a well functioning medical system for everyone - worthy of a first world country - see Germany, France, Austria, ....
Germany has 85 million people, Japan 125 approx. - the per capita part you can scale up and dow as you need.
per capita = everyone in the country and _ healthcare expenditures_ everything that is already ! spent IN the country._ It does not matter how it is financed (out of pocket, subsidy or by a insurance company).
The per capita = per head in the U.S. of course includes the people that have no or insufficient coverage, go bankrupt, get treatment too late or no preventive care
In all other countries those "heads" do have coverage - meaning FULL coverage.
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@trl2828 Interestingly the "economy of scale" does impact healthcare expenditures once a certain minimum size is reached - maybe 100,000 people - Iceland is doing fine (and blows the U.s. out of the water). Being a larger nation is not exactely a disadvantage but not an advantage either (as one would expect).
having a market of 325 million people instead of 3 or 30 or 80 is usually not considered a cost driving factor.
The cultural make-up does not matter. A broken arm or diabetes needs the same treatment and costs the same.
The European nations traditionally do not define themselves as immigration nations - but they have become that since the 1960s and 1970s when a lot of migration workers came. It just does not show up because it is not such a hassle, expensive and a long process to get citizenship.
What has crude oil production to do with it ? U.K. and Norway (it has only 3 or 4 million people) are the only nations that have oil - it is fading out in the U.K.
That a country might have higher revenue (from oil, or other revenue) to finance programs - has nothing to do with the fact the the serivice is delivered in a MUCH MORE COST EFFICIENT MANNER.
Even the relatively expensive Norwegian care costs less per person than is already being spent in the U.S. per person - but in Norway everyone is covered and their outcomes (infant mortality, life expectancy) are better.
Both nations (U.K. and Norway) are outliers regarding their expenditures: Norway happens to have high per capita expenditures USD 8,400 (approx.) and U.K. ONLY USD 3,900 - which is less than half of the U.S. but the NHS has been defunded over the course of the last 10 years.
All other European nations have NO oil and also no or little gas. See France, Belgium, Italy, Austria, Germany, ....
So it is a good thing they have organized their healthcare cost-efficient with a public non-profit insurance agency and many (or solely) non-profit public hospitals.
Hospitals are usually run by cities, sometimes by states / provinces. Either way - Big Pharma is the only large and powerful for-profit actor in the system. The doctors with their own practice and and pharmacies are private SMALL companies who have a contract with the non-profit agency - which drives a good bargain with all of them. (The doctors and pharmacies have professional organizations - comparable to a chamber of commerce that represent them, they are all getting the same contract).
Luckily Big Pharma has very standardized, comparable products - that makes it easier to negotiate. So Iceland can compare prices (if only behind closed doors) to make sure they are not being ripped off because they are a tiny nation.
Hospitals and doctors have a certain number of people they can realistically serve - so that can be scaled up and down according to the population size and the population density of the region (Norway might have a disadvantage here - they will have to offer more smaller units so that driving distances are not too long - or they will need to offer more helicopter transports).
Now the costs of living in Norway are higher in general - that means also higher wages which affect the costs of healthcare (which include of a lot of labor costs).
The systems finance the DELIVERY OF CARE and not the profits of the shareholders of private for profit insurance comapnies and chains of hospitals.
So the 8,400 USD per head seem worse than they are - still Norway is NOT in the 5,000 - 6,000 USD range - like he overwhelming majority of first world countries (most wealthy European nations - Canada, Australia, New Zealand, .....
And then there is the U.S. with USD 9,200 (source World Bank, data 2014 - meanwhile they should have come up at least with the 2016 data you can look it up - or be content with the general idea - the gap cost-wise will not have changed much..)
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+Holypikemanz The vacation Lake house at Lake Champlain (not a fancy affair but it is beachfront property, hence the price) they got in summer 2016 for 600k. They financed it (at least partially) with the sale of the house in Maine which Jane had inherited from her mother.
And yes they have 3 houses now, 1 regular family home in Burlington (where he was mayor), and a row house in D.C. (seems to be a usual solution for long time representatives, he is in D.C. since 1990 or 1991).
I can relate to the Sanders' family cherishing the ability to meet and
enjoy modest lake summer vacations in a 40 minutes driving distance from their home. - I read about Sanders' first "real estate" when he was a young man. It was an off the grid cabin (nearby Burlington if I remember correctly), no water, no electrictiy, no floor. He lived there with his first wife. Well she might have been less enthusiastic about it, the marriage did not hold. It can get cold in Vermont, not sure if the former sugar shack was well insulated.
He bought the property from his inheritance when his father died. - Being from N.Y. he was VERY IMPRESSED with having his OWN REAL ESTATE ... "I stood up in the morning and these were MY TREES. I thought that was awesome".
He does not splurge on cars. He does not spend a lot of money on fashion, luxury restaurants, boats, and likely also not on luxury vacations abroad (he hits the road a lot, so spending time in VT is his chance to meet the grandchildren). And his hairdresser isn't getting rich of him either ;)
This desire to have a private retreat where they can spend uncomplicated family time in summer and fall seems very down
to earth to me, and it seems to be the one thing they splurge on.
As mayor and then especially in Congress and Senate he got paid good salaries, I hear his books are selling well. He does not need the help of the Democratic Party, some donors, think tanks, or SuperPacs, to sell them. Lucrative book contracts are the only legal way to bribe politicians WHILE THEY ARE STILL IN OFFICE. If a SuperPac buys truck loads of the books of a politician (and the publisher knows that in advance)...
If I remember correctly in the leaked Clinton email someone thought it "appropriate" to remind the Clintons or their staff of the help they have gotten in organizing a book tour - like the Clintons owed someone. Can you spell "pay for play" ? -
Anyway: Sanders isn't doing that, he sells his books on his own. He took a risk 2015 and 2016, and it was a lot of effort and energy he put into the campaign. People reporting on the campaign were impressed with his energy.
Plus he still puts a lot of effort into getting good healthcare for the country. It is not like THAT will get him some financial profits. It is not like the pharmaindustry or Wallstreet is going to reward him the minute he retires. (no Obama style 400k speaking gigs fro HIM).
There is no way someone can unseat him as Senator of Vermont as long as he desires to hold office. He could as well take it easy.
Actually if he was willing to sell out more (Howard Dean anyone ? ), the DNC would provide him - or his wife or another family member - with a lucrative position and be glad to shut him up. - Instead he travels the country and annoys the heck out of the corporate Democrats.
And he is not doing that because that effort will get him some extra reward (well it might improve book sales because he builds a fan base, but that is hard to calculate).
He believeably says that he cherishes the time he can spend with family, especially the grandchildren (teaching them sports etc). Well at his age one thinks about: "How many good years are left to me".
He could keep the job as Senator, play a quiet and relaxed game. He knows the rules of the circus and when you do what the Democratic Party establishment orders, there is not much time needed to inform yourself. Doing your own thing, forming and arguing your own opinion is time consuming.
His collegues use 30 - 40 % of their time for fundraising, he does not need to do that.
Another time consuming task of a politician is to hold contact with the voters at home. Well he could do that easily, while enjoying to spend time at home in Vermont.
In short he could earn the nice salary and the benefits (incl. healthcare) of a Senator quite easily and with not too much effort and investment of time - and enjoy his old age and family.
He does not do that. Instead he tries to comfort the afflicted - and it looks like he afflicts the comfortable as well - and he has not even taken off the gloves. (Still hoping for him to take off the gloves.)
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