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Comments by "jeppen" (@jesan733) on "Tulsi Gabbard: How war in Ukraine will end | Tulsi Gabbard and Lex Fridman" video.

@BojanPeric-kq9et in no way is this like the Cuban missile crisis. And in no way is there a moral equivalence between dictatorships waging war on democracies and democracies waging war on dictatorships.
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@LoveBagpipes to any sane person looking at the Budapest agreement, it's Russia that's in gross violation, not Ukraine. In no way did Ukraine's wish to become a NATO member violate the Budapest agreement, nor did it threaten Russia's national security.
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@LoveBagpipes that's completely and utterly wrong. The Budapest Memorandum only has assurances from Russia, the US and the UK to safeguard Ukraine's territory and sovereignty. It has NOTHING that goes the other way. Read the full text of the Memorandum. It's simple and short. Also, it's ridiculous to assert that Ukraine would be a threat to Russia. It's easy to defend and Russia the worlds largest stockpiles of both artillery and nuclear weapons.
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@AlliniumRider sorry, conspiracy theories aren't interesting. Geopolitics isn't about money.
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@LoveBagpipes could you explain how NATO is a threat to Russia? Is the post-cold-war period indicative of of a NATO arms race directed toward Russia, or the exact opposite, of NATO disarmament and appeasement toward Russia?
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@attilamarics3374 "Ukraine doesnt have the manpower to win." The population ratio of Afghanistan to Soviet Union in 1989: 1 to 27 The population ratio of Russia to Ukraine in 2024: 1 to 4 Yet you think Ukraine has too few inhabitants to prevail?
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@LoveBagpipes The Friendship treaty was broken by Russia rather than Ukraine, and in no way does the treaty give Russia the right to wage war killing hundreds of thousands and to occupy territories in response to Ukraine expressing the wish to be a NATO member.
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@dwl3006 no, it was Russia that violated the Minsk ceasefire agreement. Also, Russia was in Ukraine illegaly, which was the reason for Minsk to begin with. Occupying a part of a country and then calling resistance to that "a provocation" is ludicrous.
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@dwl3006 I'm super familiar with the Russian narratives, sadly. The fighting in the Donbass had largely died down by 2022. It was calmer than ever. Zelensky had been elected to make additional efforts for peace, but those were rejected by Putin. The Minsk agreements mandated the occupied territories staying part of Ukraine, and that foreign (Russian) troops and equipment should leave. Putin refused to abide by those agreements. There was absolutely zero risk for Russia of Ukraine taking back those territories by force, because Ukraine was only provided some training in modern military doctrine by the West, but no weapons. Russia was far, far stronger obviously, with massive advantages in every branch of the military, and the entrenched defender's job is easier, so in early 2022, Ukraine had no means to make military gains.
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@jasonjackson5696 "the country is called Russia and divorced the moniker USSR back in the early 90s. It is a totally different country and culture" This is not true. It's still the Russian Empire with a lot of bad ideas preserved. "The entire world fears the nuclear proliferation held by the USA" This is nonsense, what are you trying to say? If the US pressures Ukraine to let go of territories, then why shouldn't Poland, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea get their own nukes? The US apparently won't protect them anymore.
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@jasonjackson5696 "What needs to happen is to develop a whole new paradigm of thinking where the world does not revolve around the desires and whims of the Superpowers." Funny that you should say that, when you essentially argue that we should accept that the desires and whims of Russia become reality. "Personally, I think we are on the doorstep of a fantastic new future as the mainstream media is getting dismantled daily by more independent news sources." Your whole comment is an example of the opposite. Democracy is at risk as you are easily swayed by Russian propaganda.
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@jasonjackson5696 "now think about WW II, Korea & Vietnam, how did they end?" With variation: Complete military defeat, ceasefire stalemate and occupier exit, respectively. Russia will do what the US did in the Vietnam war, probably, "occupier exit". "who were the “aggressors” in the Middle East? It’s all a matter of point of view, isn’t it?" Not so in the Ukraine war. Here it's clear-cut Russian aggression against a sovereign country. "it is a widely known fact that Russia is completely different than the former Soviet Union." No, it's not widely known, or accepted. The regime internal balance of power and dynamics are not that different, with the security services in charge. "Tucker talks about how beautiful the country is and that change began in the 90s, even he was shocked." Yeah, a beautiful Soviet era subway, fairly clean streets and European-style shopping carts, apparently really shocking. "It’s people like you that refuse to accept any change" I accept good changes. I don't accept the return to an era of empires expanding territories by wars, and I don't accept dictatorships gobbling up smaller democracies. "would rather simply hate Russia because it requires no thought" I don't hate Russia. I see the enormous harm that its regime does to the world, undermining democracy and trust everywhere, besides waging unnecessary wars in which millions die. "you can be in agreement with the rest of the zombies, thinking “evil empire“." Again, it is an evil empire. There's no doubt about that. I don't know if you don't care about freedom and democracy, or if you don't understand what Russia is doing to it, but facts remain.
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@johnagbo8864 Cuba did do that, but Cuba is still communist. So what do you mean with "just like"?
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@LoveBagpipes The Euromaidan that ended with a popular revolution, the Revolution of Dignity, was a major grassroots movement that protested Russian interference that broke this article of the Memorandum: to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. The euromaidan protestors wanted to be free of Russia and align toward the EU instead, to increase freedom and prosperity. That's their sovereign right. the US didn't "trigger" the color revolution.
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@robertatkins9419 your vatnik friend conceded that he was misinformed about the Budapest Memorandum. You are as well. The Memorandum places no requirements on Ukraine whatsoever (except handing over the nukes). In the Memorandum, Russia promised to respect Ukraine's sovereignty and borders. And it's incredibly clear that Russia violated that Memorandum. Rand Corp ideas aren't proof of anything The indigenous popular revolution in 2014, the Revolution of Dignity, is none of Russia's business, and Russia has no right to interfere in Ukraine's internal affairs. Also it's ridiculous to argue that Russia defends itself. Russia is the schoolyard bully beating up a kid four years younger.
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@attilamarics3374 "More than half of Ukraines population already bailed from the country." This is patently untrue. "What are the exact sign of Ukraine winning? Name one recent, and minor strikes arent a sign of winning." All strikes are minor from a birds eye perspective. But taken together, it's long-term unsustainable for Russia.
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@AlliniumRider it truly is. Very high correlation to emoji usage, I've noticed.
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@joek600 why do you say that? Zelensky won the election against a real incumbent opponent in 2019 and power was peacefully transferred. That's the true hallmark of a democracy, and that could never happen in Russia.
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You just sayin wrong.
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj "Merkel who literally said that they were not pretending to follow the Minsk accord" I have asked more than 20 russian propagandists like you to prove this statement. None has been able to.
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Russia started with a 2-week plan. Now Europe is ramping up weapons production. Time does not work in Russia's favor.
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@victoriadedicova parts of countries have no right to self determination. E.g. the catalan people could not break away from Spain in 2017. That means Crimea is part of Ukraine. If you live in Crimea and want to be a Russian citizen, or if you collaborated with Russian occupation, I suggest that you flee along with the Russian troops as they retreat from Crimea at the end of this war.
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Think about the US 20 years in Afghanistan. Imagine a Russian MP arguing in an interview in the middle of that, that Putin should make the Taliban negotiate with the Americans, because that's the only way to peace. And imagine that the interviewer then pointed to how the Taliban leader and Obama are both witty and intelligent people that should be able to come together in their shared sense of humour. And then the MP responding, with complete seriousness: "Yeah, I don't think that's naive at all".
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@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi "and the people of crimea WANT to be with russia" If that's so, they'll have to move back to Russia as Ukraine takes it back.
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No way.
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@dwl3006 it was unprovoked, though.
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@PClaud so what if there were "CIA bases" on Ukrainian territory? That's not a provokation.
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@PClaud it's defense, not provokation. It was Ukraine's sovereignty under threat, not Russian.
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@michaelh878 America didn't gamble. Russia gambles, and it's losing so far.
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@jasonjackson5696 "Russia is an evil empire." Well, but it is. It's run by an FSB mafia that wages illegal and highly destructive wars, and that does everything it can to undermine democracies around the world by a a broad spectrum of influence operations. Some of the brutality of the regime can be seen in the treatment of the recent bunch of terrorists, and some of their influence operations can be seen in how they lied about the attack's background. "The same exact way peace has been guaranteed with all other wars - Leadership agrees to the terms set forth and move forward in faith and integrity" Many wars involving great powers recently have ended with the aggressor simply having to give up and leave. Your suggestion implies rewarding the aggressor, who does not have integrity and who will use the pause to rearm and then restart to get more rewards. "the country is called Russia and divorced the moniker USSR back in the early 90s. It is a totally different country and culture" This is not true. It's still the Russian Empire with a lot of bad ideas preserved. "The entire world fears the nuclear proliferation held by the USA" This is nonsense, what are you trying to say? If the US pressures Ukraine to let go of territories, then why shouldn't Poland, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea get their own nukes? The US apparently won't protect them anymore. "what it does is to topple a very corrupt government, and gets rid of a highly manipulative leader – Zelenskyy." This is parroting Russian propaganda narratives, always trying to create tu quoque perceptions. "Did you know that at the very beginning of this war, Russia was totally prepared with a peace agreement" It wasn't. When Russia failed in its maneuver warfare and it became clear that it couldn't take Kyiv or even Kharkov, Putin wanted Ukraine to just give him the occupied territories while he regrouped and built up for a bigger attack. That's not a peace agreement, it's a demand for a partial surrender. Of course Ukraine couldn't agree to that. "Zelenskyy had other more devious plans like, dragging the USA, and the European Union into the war so he could benefit, not necessarily the Ukrainians. There is a huge financial upside to him if he were to pull it off." This is also a false Russian propaganda narrative. It's sad that you fall for it. "Instead of pointing a finger at the “aggressor“, try pointing that finger back at America to see how they have truly handled that position …. not very well at all - war is horrible but it’s extremely profitable." No, it's not. The Ukraine war is hugely unprofitable for pretty much all countries. "What needs to happen is to develop a whole new paradigm of thinking where the world does not revolve around the desires and whims of the Superpowers." Funny that you should say that, when you essentially argue that we should accept that the desires and whims of Russia become reality. "Personally, I think we are on the doorstep of a fantastic new future as the mainstream media is getting dismantled daily by more independent news sources." Your whole comment is an example of the opposite. Democracy is at risk as you are easily swayed by Russian propaganda.
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@michaelh878 Russia is losing enormous amounts of men and equipment every day to keep the front lines stable, and Ukraine has started to pound its refinery capacity on top of that. The legitimacy of Putin is eroded by the day, and EU/NATO defense spending and defense production is ramping up. And of course, Sweden and Finland joined NATO. BRICS is completely irrelevant, and so is the US debt. However, what's concerning is that the US is so infested by Russian influence operations that it's currently deadlocked on Ukraine support. When that is resolved, Russia will start losing faster again.
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@jasonjackson5696 "Russia is an evil empire." Well, but it is. It's run by an FSB mafia that wages illegal and highly destructive wars, and that does everything it can to undermine democracies around the world by a a broad spectrum of influence operations. Some of the brutality of the regime can be seen in the treatment of the recent bunch of terrorists, and some of their influence operations can be seen in how they lied about the attack's background.
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@jasonjackson5696 "The same exact way peace has been guaranteed with all other wars - Leadership agrees to the terms set forth and move forward in faith and integrity" Many wars involving great powers recently have ended with the aggressor simply having to give up and leave. Your suggestion implies rewarding the aggressor, who does not have integrity and who will use the pause to rearm and then restart to get more rewards.
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@jasonjackson5696 "what it does is to topple a very corrupt government, and gets rid of a highly manipulative leader – Zelenskyy." This is parroting Russian propaganda narratives, always trying to create tu quoque perceptions. "Did you know that at the very beginning of this war, Russia was totally prepared with a peace agreement" It wasn't. When Russia failed in its maneuver warfare and it became clear that it couldn't take Kyiv or even Kharkov, Putin wanted Ukraine to just give him the occupied territories while he regrouped and built up for a bigger attack. That's not a peace agreement, it's a demand for a partial surrender. Of course Ukraine couldn't agree to that.
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@jasonjackson5696 "Zelenskyy had other more devious plans like, dragging the USA, and the European Union into the war so he could benefit, not necessarily the Ukrainians. There is a huge financial upside to him if he were to pull it off." This is also a false Russian propaganda narrative. It's sad that you fall for it. "Instead of pointing a finger at the “aggressor“, try pointing that finger back at America to see how they have truly handled that position …. not very well at all - war is horrible but it’s extremely profitable." No, it's not. The Ukraine war is hugely unprofitable for pretty much all countries.
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@michaelh878 "Believing Russia is losing more men than Ukraine Is delusional." Dude, everybody knows this is the case except those who have come to trust Russian propaganda. "Believing they are losing more than triple (which is the population difference) is even more so." It seems to be roughly triple. "And Russia could easily increase immigration if they wanted to." I don't think so. When people understand they'll be thrown into an extremely brutal meat grinder, immigration halts. "Russia has been very restrained in terms of its actions in western ukraine" Are you talking about the bombing of the electricity infrastructure and production facilities, or the double taps designed to unlive rescue personnel? "likely because they don't want a totally failed state on their border" Ah, no, Russia seems to care immensely, considering they turn cities along the front lines into rubble. "which USA couldn't care less about in terms of Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc" Countries in which they stayed for decades in order to build and support good governance. Except Libya, of course, where they just helped a rebellion from not being crushed by Khadaffi's tribe's heavy weaponry, and then Russia made sure the state failed by supporting war lords. "We'll see how that changes with the strikes inside Russia." Russia is doing all the harm they can with conventional weapons. "Sweden and Finland joining NATO is irrelevant." Adding a super long NATO border to Russia, fairly close to Moscow and St Petersburg, and making the Baltic Sea a NATO lake. But do cope as well as you can. "BRICS is far from irrelevant in terms of economic growth." BRICS is irrelevant because it's not a functioning alliance. They have no cohesion, no common goals, really.
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@jasonjackson5696 to me it seems you're the one being shitty to people, considering how you dismiss me and others. Also seems you're one of those shallow socialists who will accept any brutal fascist rule and excuse any war of aggression if the state just takes care of homeless people. But sorry, I don't buy it; I see clearly what Russia is doing, at home and abroad. Empire of evil as an apt description.
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@michaelh878 everybody knows Russia loses more men, except those who have come to trust Russian propaganda. It seems to be roughly triple. And when people understand they'll be thrown into an extremely brutal meat grinder, immigration halts. Has Russia been restrained? Are you talking about the bombing of the electricity infrastructure and production facilities, or the double taps designed to unlive rescue personnel? Are you talking about how they turn cities along the front lines into rubble? They US has tried nation building a lot, so the US seems to care about failed states. Finland and Sweden are sdding a super long NATO border to Russia, fairly close to Moscow and St Petersburg, and making the Baltic Sea a NATO lake. But do cope as well as you can. BRICS is irrelevant because it's not a functioning alliance. They have no cohesion, no common goals, really.
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@michaelh878 it seems Russia is losing roughly triple the amount of men, yes. BRICS is not a viable alliance, they're not friends, really.
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@michaelh878 Russia is losing 3x more though.
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@jasonjackson5696 I don't think taking care of homeless people makes a people democratic and free. I see what Russia is doing, at home and abroad. You don't, or worse you don't care. Regardless, "empire of evil" is apt.
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@jasonjackson5696 your emojis sums you up perfectly. (Virtually everybody supporting Russia lols, posts emojis and talk about shovels.)
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@michaelh878 Russia mostly don't collect bodies, and the burials that do happen are pretty spread out in the Russian provinces. Russia does mobilize new soldiers, around 30k a month, roughly matching its losses. Most aren't voluntary. Putin blunts the pressure by recruiting more cannon fodder among minorities and in far-off provinces. People from Moscow and St Petersburg are not given cannon fodder assignments, unless convicts or opposition.
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@michaelh878 I agree, but it seems Ukraine doesn't have that high losses, rather they have a strongly favorable attrition roughly matching the population ratio difference. So no, Ukraine doesn't have to negotiate. Also I don't see why it would get worse from here. Western defense production is ramping up while Russia is grinding down its stores of armor, artillery and air defenses.
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@michaelh878 Ukraine is lowering the age from 27 to 25. Russia is at 18 already. Russia is wasting enormous resources right now. We'll see how it holds up.
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@michaelh878 nonsense, they would still have Crimea, and they would have more resources to honor their military exports and support allies. This war is just devastating their demography, their military elite trips, their stored weapon systems, their economy and their reputation. And Russia has no lower age limit afaik.
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Oh, Putin's invasion guaranteed that Ukraine will join NATO.
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@LoveBagpipes could you explain how NATO is a threat to Russia? Is the post-cold-war period indicative of of a NATO arms race directed toward Russia, or the exact opposite, of NATO disarmament and appeasement toward Russia? Great that you concede that you misread the Budapest Memorandum. What was the source that made this "analysis" of the document, and will you learn anything from your mistake in trusting that source? The Euromaidan that ended with a popular revolution, the Revolution of Dignity, was a major grassroots movement that protested Russian interference that broke this article of the Memorandum: to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind. The euromaidan protestors wanted to be free of Russia and align toward the EU instead, to increase freedom and prosperity. That's their sovereign right. the US didn't "trigger" the color revolution. The Friendship treaty was broken by Russia rather than Ukraine, and in no way does the treaty give Russia the right to wage war killing hundreds of thousands and to occupy territories in response to Ukraine expressing the wish to be a NATO member.
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@LoveBagpipes Great that you concede that you misread the Budapest Memorandum. What was the source that made this "analysis" of the document, and will you learn anything from your mistake in trusting that source?
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@BojanPeric-kq9et no, this war is nothing like the Cuban missile crisis. In no way was Putin worried about these imaginary missiles that wouldn't have been placed on Ukrainian soil. Putin just wanted to expand his empire and be a great tsar in the history books. What's wrong when Putin does it? Well, there's a big moral difference between a dictatorship trying to swallow a democracy, and when a democracy tries to flip a dictatorship that is committing crimes against humanity.
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@AlliniumRider yes, and many people are completely stuck with their ideas of corruption that they think explains everything.
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@kzlfaku often the goal of the war is to flip a country from dictatorship to democracy or vice versa. There of course the first goal is much better and may truly improve the lives of people, while the other goal will make them worse. The war itself may always be horrible, but if you e.g. research how many hospitals or schools that have been destroyed by Russia in this war, versus how many that were hit by coalition bombs in the Iraq war, you will find more than a huge difference.
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@kaisiangtey8964 he's describing Putin's victims.
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@kaisiangtey8964 you're aligning to the Russian propaganda narrative that democracies are as bad as, or worse than, him and other dictatorships. It's designed to keep people under dictatorships and preferably flip democracies to dictatorships.
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@angus7278 "Zelensky and company banned political parties he didn’t like. Is that considered a “hallmark of democracy” now?" I suspect that if a larger country starts a major war against your country, terror bombs you every day and kills tens of thousands of your soldiers, occupies parts of your country massacring and torturing lots of civilians, perhaps you'd also ban parties of collaborators and traitors. "What about internationally supervised referendums in Crimea and the Donbas. You know ASK the people who live there to decide what they want? Too much democracy?" Besides the impossibility of having free and fair elections in occupied territories that have been immersed in Russian propaganda for years and from which Ukrainians have had to flee, from which Crimean Tatars have been displaced, and into which Russians have moved, there is no right within international law for territories to secede. And if Russia would like to change international law, then why don't Russia start by allowing e.g. Chechnya do just that as its population of muslim non-Russians don't want to live under Russian rule? But Putin famously turned Groznyj and other parts of Chechnya into rubble to prevent them from seceding.
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@angus7278 I suspect that most people, if their country is subjected to a major war, would like to ban parties of traitors. Besides the impossibility of having free and fair elections in occupied territories that have been immersed in Russian propaganda for years and from which Ukrainians have had to flee, from which Crimean Tatars have been displaced, and into which Russian colonizers have moved, there is no right within international law for territories to secede. And if Russia would like to change international law, then why don't it start by allowing e.g. Chechnya do just that as its population of muslim non-Russians don't want to live under Russian rule? But Putin famously turned Groznyj and other parts of Chechnya into rubble to prevent them from seceding.
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@Paint-brigade1776 you mean "never help others".
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@michaelh878 "He has consistently said he is willing to negotiate." He has consistently lied.
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj great, now prove that these were her own words. Capitalizing "OWN WORDS" isn't proof. Give me search terms to find the audio recording and provide a transcript of the original German that includes five sentences before and five after. Good luck.
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj LMAO, "innumerable more sources"? I ask you for the ORIGINAL source and you cannot produce it. And I've asked dozens of others like you to produce it, and they can't either. You just find "innumerable" replications where this factoid has crept in.
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj LMAO. Yeah, you namedropped the claimed original source, but again, nobody has showed that it (and Merkel) actually said what the Russian trolls claims it does. "The original interview is no longer available." LOL, you don't think it would've been saved and republished by the Kremlin propaganda apparatus if it actually said what you claim it does?
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj LMFAO, yeah, these leaders said similar things, i.e. that Minsk gave Ukraine some time to fortify. And that's obviously true. But that's not the same as Minsk wasn't seriously meant. But RUSSIA refused to abide by Minsk. And when Zelensky was elected on a platform to do more to make peace with Russia, Putin just snubbed him, because he had decided years ago to build up for war and eventually grab Ukraine. Western weakness provoked him into action. Germany had just symbolic military spending and voluntarily and consciously made itself energy dependent on Russia to prove we were no threat. Putin's contempt just increased and increased. "The sources are there mate", LOL, you cannot provide the source, not you and not the entire Russian propaganda machinery that you have behind you. Again, I've asked dozens of people like you, and you're all empty-handed. No proof, just tons of secondary and tertiary sources. And you're all like "wow, pro-western source says it, it has to be true" when western news outlets are all over the place all the time, and mostly just wants to exaggerate just like this to add drama to capture more audience. LOL. Wait, did I lol enough? LOL. (Normally I never lol, but you seem to consider it a great tool for reinforcement, so I use it.)
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj LOL, yeah, these leaders said similar things, i.e. that Minsk gave Ukraine some time to fortify. And that's obviously true. But that's not the same as Minsk wasn't seriously meant. But Russiarefused to abide by Minsk. And when Zelensky was elected on a platform to do more to make peace with Russia, Putin just refused to negotiate, because he had decided years ago to build up for war and eventually grab Ukraine. Western weakness provoked him into action. Germany had just symbolic military spending and voluntarily and consciously made itself energy dependent on Russia to prove we were no threat. Putin's contempt just increased and increased, and finally he attacked. "The sources are there mate", LOL, you cannot provide the source, not you and not the entire Russian propaganda machinery that you have behind you. Again, I've asked dozens of people like you, and you're all empty-handed. No proof, just tons of secondary and tertiary sources. And you're all like "wow, pro-western source says it, it has to be true" when western news outlets are all over the place all the time, and mostly just wants to exaggerate just like this to add drama to capture more audience.
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Trump is not "too abrasive", he's personally unfit for office.
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@rohitparikh8132 "But Boris Johnson destroyed the agreement" You russian propagandists always say that, but you have no proof.
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@thecoin5394 it was the Kremlin regime that refused to follow the Minsk accords.
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj perhaps you shouldn't get all your info from Russian propaganda channels?
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@RenanMendes-zd8hj it's a Russian propaganda narrative about an interview in Zeit, but none of you guys can prove Merkel actually said that. You can't even give me an original Zeit transcript.
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@thecoin5394 if so, Russia shouldn't have signed the Minsk accords, and shouldn't have had occupier troops in Donbass.
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It could end without negotiations too, with a simple withdrawal, like happened twice in Afghanistan.
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@attilamarics3374 Russia is making tiny gains as they try to capitalize on the pause in US support, but they're also bleeding heavily and e.g. their refinery capacity is being dismantled. I think it will take years, but eventually Russia won't have the stamina to keep it up.
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@attilamarics3374 that Russia is bleeding heavily is evidenced by many, many sources and surveys, and that its refinery capacity is being dismantled is widely reported in the news.
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@attilamarics3374 tiny gains: see the maps. bleeding heavily: check out the news reports and vids from front. oil refineries being dismantled: check the news and vids. All is well known, claiming I can't prove it is pointless.
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@attilamarics3374 all of it is well known.
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@imrekalman9044 Ukraine wants more help. Who are you to say it's favorable terms for Ukraine to give up large parts of their country and people to the fascist aggressor?
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@stayhungry1503 how interested are you to give up territory and people in your own country? Besides, Russia has some momentum right now, so I don't think they're particularly interested to stop their illegal aggression right now.
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@stayhungry1503 that's nonsense in so many ways. They're not allowed to break out and join Russia, and they're Ukrainian. If any of them wants to live in Russia they should move to Russia.
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@stayhungry1503 no, it's still Ukraine and Russia will have to give it up sooner or later. You being evil doesn't matter.
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@AlliniumRider poor little conspiracy theorist. Black Rock. : 😂
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@AlliniumRider "jabbed and boosted"? Yes, of course. 🤣 Is there some conspiracy theory you don't believe in? Name one!
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@AlliniumRider it's too late to salvage your position. Trying to project cult behavior on me after saying that about jabbing is beyond ridiculous. Sorry.
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@pindapoy1596 "Those negotiations were wrecked by Boris Johnson who told Zelensky on behalf of NATO not to agree or sign anything. It seems that everybody knows that except you." Which reveals that you mostly talk to others who are immersed in Russian propaganda.
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@pindapoy1596 sorry, trying to hold up a mirror does nothing. It's you who make an unproven and largely debunked claim. Russia's demands were simply not acceptable and the unfolding horrors of the Bucha massacre underlined that.
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@JacekJurus-pg7mc what a load of lies. But anyone who says "banderite" is easily dismissed.
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@keving.5295 "there is always a negotiated settlement unless one side has the overwhelming advantage." Like the Afghanistan wars?
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@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi "crimea voted to leave" So did Catalonia. They didn't get to do it either, because it's not allowed by international law.
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@AlexandrawOfficial_Lexi if a country allows a part to secede, then it's allowed, because countries are sovereign. For Kosovo, Serbia's genocidal actions against Kosovo created a dilemma, because either the genocide and ethnic cleansing would be allowed, or Kosovo was allowed to secede, and then the latter principle won out, because genocide is the worse option.
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"The war will end when Ukraine loses or we have a nuclear war." Ah, just as the Afghanistan wars? "Imperialist wars are inevitable" As long as there are brutal dictatorships. "usually the big loses occur during a period of too much debt crippling a dying hegemony" Ah, here it comes, the pet peeve that explains everything. "The US is a fading divided empire with debt of $32tn growing at $2tn per annum." American debt held by Americans. "They rely on maintaining a dominant currency that they can keep printing more of" No, they rely on being a 25 trillion production machine with world class innovation and entrepreneurship, attracting talent and capital from all over the world. "Held in place by endless military expansion." There's zero military expansion by the US. "This proxy war with Russia has accelerated the decline" ... of Russia, and made NATO find its purpose again, and two additional important members. Allies are ramping up military production at a time it was dangerously low. "it pushed China and Russia together" Did it? What lethal aid is China providing Russia? "In fact western military industrial capabilities is predicated on private company profits not national security. There is no surge capacity." True, but it's changing. NATO has like 45% of global GDP to play with.
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I think Ukraine will be able to prevail with European support alone. The EU is ramping up weapons production and support. For sure it will be more costly for Ukraine, but eventually doable.
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@BojanPeric-kq9et Ukraine has been able to hold the Russians back and regain some territory for over 2 years now. The west has additional capabilities to unlock for Ukraine, so long-term it doesn't look good for Russia.
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@Tiasung yes, we Europeans are massively against Russia's war, and therefore we support Ukraine.
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@hrissan the US, even after 2014, refused to give Ukraine any heavy military equipment to not provoke Russia. Being friends with a country is not a reason to invade it and steal its territory. There's was no risk to Russian territorial integrity from minor collaboration between Ukraine and the US. Russia has the world's largest artillery arsenal and the world's largest nuclear arsenal.
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