Comments by "jeppen" (@jesan733) on "Trump humiliates Zelensky to save his doomed peace process" video.

@ByZHellas ok, Ivan.
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@ByZHellas your previous statement included "sign a peace" and "should've signed peace". This is part of a pro-ru assumption that ru has limited goals in this war, i.e. that it'd agree to a status quo peace that allows Ukraine to thrive and decide its own future within the territories it currently controls, rather than setting up conditions that ensures Ukraine is perpetually weak, quite ungovernable and loses major cities that ru doesn't yet control. Ru has at no point in this war been ready to provide Ukraine with such semi-acceptable conditions. Then you blame the victim and says "he's a butcher at this point", despite the fact that he's acting as any decent leader would, fighting for his country's freedom and sovereignty. This is also a pro-ru narrative. Finally the fact that you make it about Zelensky is also a pro-ru narrative, because it's trying to delegitimize Ukr's resistance and agency by pretending it's about a rouge ruler, rather than seeing that Ukr's struggle is based on a deep sentiments shared by the Ukr people. I've watched WOAM, and I don't find him that insightful. He's one of several content creators who make a big deal of ru sacrificing enormous amounts of resources to take tiny amounts of territory, and are therefore rewarded by likes and views by pro-ru people behaving like children in their comment fields and spreading ru propaganda among themselves.
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@ByZHellas It's simply incorrect that Ukraine is overmatched in resources. It's also incorrect that Ukr is losing exponentially. I've literally seen graphs of territorial gains and they don't look exponential at all. Ru produces cheaply since they're poor (low wages). The west is producing shells expensively since they've got higher wages and since they're still investing in new more automated production lines and working through bottlenecks, and have higher quality requirements. As the production lines comes online, the cost will trend down. However Ukraine has huge drone production and they do it cheaper than ru.
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@ByZHellas There's absolutely nothing that says Ru has higher stamina. They're fighting an unnecessary war and has various costs related to that, and could break at any moment. Ukr is more motivated as the war is existential to them. Also the west fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and Ukraine is far more important. Putin doesn't have 20 years to live.
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@ByZHellas Also, your assertion that Ukr should negotiate peace now while it still has cards makes no sense if their situation is as bad as you claim. If it is, why would Ru accept peace? They would know what you know and refuse to negotiate anything but surrender.
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@ByZHellas Zel understands what I just told you, that ru doesn't have limited goals. Ukr (and e.g. the Baltics) have suffered for three generations under the previous ru empire (called the Soviet Union then) and then suffered for another generation under ru interference and influence operations and war. They're determined to fight for freedom, they refuse to let more generations suffer under ru dominion. Again, this fight is not Zel's decision. It's the decision of Ukr's people to defend. Zel can't negotiate for Ukr to become a failed state and give up millions of more people to occupation.
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@ByZHellas there's another ru narrative that's false in your premises: That Ukr is fighting a losing war, that it's predetermined to lose, that it's losing "exponentially". It's not. Ru's gains are still snail's pace, and Ru fighting is largely ineffective and unsustainable in terms of losses. If Ukr is properly supported, Ru loses, or at least is forced to a grinding halt. Ukr is relatively much, much stronger than Afghanistan was when it beat the Soviets.
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@ByZHellas it's interesting how pro-ru people lol while estimating a strength imbalance in the favor of a murderous aggressor. For them, this is a basically game where the strong deserves to win, and where the humiliation and suffering of the weak can be enjoyed as entertainment. It's simply incorrect that Ukraine is overmatched in resources. It's also incorrect that Ukr is losing exponentially. I've literally seen graphs of territorial gains and they don't look exponential at all. Ru produces cheaply since they're poor (low wages). The west is producing shells expensively since they've got higher wages and since they're still investing in new more automated production lines and working through bottlenecks, and have higher quality requirements. As the production lines comes online, the cost will trend down. However Ukraine has huge drone production and they do it cheaper than ru. There's absolutely nothing that says Ru has higher stamina. They're fighting an unnecessary war and has various costs related to that, and could break at any moment. The west fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and Ukraine is far more important. Putin doesn't have 20 years to live. It's very clear that you're immersed in pro-Ru propaganda when you insist that Ru isn't doing meat wave tactics. They are. Your assertions about escalating Ukrainian problems are also based on cherry-picked and biased view of reality. It's possible to instead view Ukr's refusal to mobilize 18-24 yos as a sign of strength. They don't need to tap into those seven age cohorts. Also, your assertion that Ukr should negotiate peace now while it still has cards makes no sense if their situation is as bad as you claim. If it is, why would Ru accept peace? They would know what you know and refuse to negotiate anything but surrender.
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@ByZHellas It's very clear that you're immersed in pro-Ru propaganda when you insist that Ru isn't doing meat wave tactics. They are. Your assertions about escalating Ukrainian problems are also based on cherry-picked and biased view of reality. It's possible to instead view Ukr's refusal to mobilize 18-24 yos as a sign of strength. They don't need to tap into those seven age cohorts.
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@ByZHellas it's interesting how you guys lol while estimating a strength imbalance in favor of the aggressor. So this is a basically game where the strong deserves to win, and where the humiliation and suffering of the weak can legitimately be enjoyed as entertainment. Right?
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@ByZHellas "Ukraine is at a disadvantage in every type of weapon and munition and manpower on the frontline" Can you prove that in any way? "it's industrial might and numerical superiority which wins wars." So why did the US exit e.g. Vietnam? "the graphs (maybe not over winter, but the months before that have been increasing in Russia's favor) have been in Russia's favor as well." Not enough to be very impressive, and now Ru has clear problems (see e.g. Pokrovsk) and is seemingly losing steam. "but gradually as one side is whittled away (and that can only be Ukraine here, they don't have anywhere near the resources or munition production that Russia does)" This is not clear. Ru is fighting ineffectively and is losing far more men and other resources than Ukr. "the lines become harder and harder to hold until it all comes crashing down" This is merely your guess. If Ukr had a huge problem, I guess they'd lower the mobilization age from 25. "this downward trend of manpower, morale, equipment, and all else continues, they will collapse eventually, far faster than Russia will." Again, this is not clear. You're making statements based on pro-Ru info bubble contents.
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@ByZHellas the FABs are perhaps Ru's only major advantage. Ukraine does have JDAM but can rarely use them because of standoff ru air-to-air missiles that Ukraine currently cannot counter. The assessment of 12-15x disparity in artillery is quite false. It has dropped to 2x lately, but Ukr has better accuracy and range, and Ukr artillery is thus far more lethal. NATO doctrine isn't based on "lightning strikes", but rather on accurate strikes and air superiority. Thus it's not expecting to need as much munitions. Also Ukr produces millions of drones each year. Ru had a brief advantage in fibre optic drones, but that's gone now. And the drones heavily advantages the defender. Ru soldiers aren't saying that it's slowed down in Pokrovsk due to more Ukr soldiers, but rather due to drones and robotic warfare. The storm troopers very rarely come as far as meeting an ukr soldier to shoot at. I see no basis for the claim that Ru has adapted more to the war of attrition. Ukr is using it, and Ru's hunger for territory, to its advantage. What pro-Ru people refuse to see is that Ru has very unfavorable attrition ratio. You convince each other that Ru still has this 10x artillery advantage that was true in the summer of 2022, and that this must mean Ukr loses more men. It's ridiculous. That front-line soldiers always want more resources including more men is not strange. However, there is a grim logic behind not adding more men: If you have less people on the front lines, density is lower and then each enemy fab or artillery strike will cause less deaths on average. For as long as the Ru advances can be kept really slow and you can attrit most attackers using drones, this low manpower allocation optimizes the attrition ratio. They could double the manpower, but then they'd double their losses while not doing much difference to Ru losses (because the total daily recruitment of Ru attackers are kindof dealt with as it stands anyway). As I said, the real paradox is claiming Ukr has a huge manpower issue in an existential war and is thus close to collapse, yet Ukr has exempted seven age cohorts that are normally used by militaries all over the world. It doesn't make sense. If the front lines were at the risk of collapse due to too few men, then they'd add two more cohorts (lower to 23) or something like that. And they'd do it at least 6 months before that, because they're not stupid. So no, there's no imminent frontline collapse. I'm sure you don't think you are in a pro-Ru bubble, but you are.
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