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Comments by "Wide Awake Human" (@WideAwakeHuman) on "You Probably Should Have Read the Bible | Franciscan University | EP 251" video.
A world without a transcendent ethical standard is a world in which POWER is all that matters.
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@LancerFFS yeah you're right... going thru life thinking there's no ultimate standard for anything makes so much sense. Goofball
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When we say the Bible is true.... we mean it's true in every sense of the word AND in ways that we can't even conceptualize. Historically true. Morally true. Metaphorically true.
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@brianbridges8124 my gosh if you just wanna argue then why ask the question in the first place you doofus. I'm well aware lots of people disagree with his interpretation of some parts of the Bible .. but there's no reason to disagree other than people being close minded and having to admit that some random psychologist figured out meanings that "scholars" have missed. He doesn't say anything that's in conflict with Christian orthodoxy - he just gives additional meaning that can be considered and value pulled from it.
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@robertholland7558 yes and you're free to argue that and many people have... But the problem is that right and wrong, good and bad HAVE to be based on something that doesn't change or else who am I to say murder is bad when you can just say it's good? This is the most simple way to say it - if you accept that there is such a thing as right and wrong, then there has to be a source for that information - if the source is anything based on humans than by what authority can anything be called right or wrong when humans disagree on everything?
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@npanic628 so you're assertion is that : bad things happen in the world, therefore, God can't exist. First of all, if there is no God then why do you assume a child getting cancer is bad? Maybe it's a fact and neither good, not bad apart from their immediate families missing them? What objective reason do you have that it's bad in some universal sense? Would it be bad for a child to die of cancer when they live in a household where they were being abused? You have a very simple view of things and would do well to listen and think more and talk less unless you're asking genuine questions.
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@npanic628 you can't even see your own fallacy or misunderstanding.... You admit that a child dying of cancer while being abused might not be as bad as it first seemed without context. In a world where there was a God and heaven and hell... What makes you think human suffering is somehow bad in an eternal sense when you don't even understand the context? If letting humans suffer resulted in people turning to God and avoiding eternal hell does that mean the suffering was "bad". Like I said... You're a simple minded person who has unfortunately made up your mind based on some perceived logical fallacy. Good luck.
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@robertholland7558 so you think moral right and wrongs are constantly changing? Then it's just whatever they majority agrees too is right and wrong? Who gets to determine when it changes? Who are you to say "harm to others" is morally wrong? If we elected some crooked politicians that made it legal to beat your wife with a baseball bat, would that make it morally right because society decided it wasn't bad?
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@brianbridges8124 here's how I would explain it, and I've listened to every Bible lecture multiple times - assume the Bible was uttered by God, which means there should be layers upon layers of meaning - JP shined a light on the layers of symbolism that I've never heard in a church or other setting. I didn't hear anything that was contradictory to what I thought about the Bible, but it def added to what I knew in ways I had never considered.
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