Comments by "Tim Shea" (@timshea4279) on "JRE Clips" channel.

  1. You need to change schools. They're not helping you.
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  2. The money was never "missing" but unaccounted for, as you stated, from outdated systems. This from Defense Link Military News in Feb/02: "DoD financial experts, [Comptroller Dov] Zakheim said, are making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. And, he added, the amount continues to drop. There was a report in the Atlantic in 2020 that this figure had grown to $20 Trillion but they even admit in the article that this was merely speculation. Seems more click bait than actual news reporting.
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  3. The problem for you is that Stern's entire 9/11 show is on YouTube and he learned of attacks the same time as everyone else and there are no calls coming in as you describe. Try again Ivan.
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  4.  @harambey  You're right. I'm going to try smelling the coffee. Open my eyes. Shake my head. Any other nonsense cliches you wish to interject in here?
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  5. He didn't die from drugs. The conclusions were Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression. Ruled a homicide. He was murdered.
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  6. Is anyone else getting the irony of someone using the word "brainwashed" while referencing the Bible in the same post? Anyone? Bueller?
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  7.  @Stantheman848  Thanks for the monologue Ivan. You're well on your way to the monthly Putin Bonus.
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  8.  @XxDanny80xX  You forget your claim genius. You said taxi drivers called into Stern about exploding Towers before the planes hit. His show is on YT for people to see. It didn't happen. You're a liar. Try again. I can put this shit to bed while binge watching Breaking Bad and drinking.
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  9.  @CommanderShepard-wq3wo  Because I know a hell of a lot more about this subject than you ever will.
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  10. Ruled a homicide by the coroner. Look up the definition of that.
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  11. @deemann894  Says the person advocating flat earth and referencing the Bible. Can't make that up.
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  12. @deemann894  Pro tip: never use the word "science" in a discussion about a fairy tale book.
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  13.  @deemann894  Thank you. I accept your acquiescence.
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  14. The county coroner ruled the death a homicide from cardiopulmonary arrest due to police restraint. I dont know what footage you think exists which changes that.
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  15. 🤦‍♂ I just can't sometimes.
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  16. Because they were. Lots of them. From all 4 planes.
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  17. @bufferzone3247  Well I will admit you're a rarity. Not only can you not research something, which is the norm for conspiracy theorists, apparently you can't Google either.
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  18.  @bufferzone3247  You don't? 🤨 You think they're still there? 😳
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  19. It so wasn't.
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  20. There's no evidence of this.
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  21. Rothschilds 🤦‍♂ Photographs of Israeli art students taken in wtc next to boxes of detonators, supposedly installing a art display You gotta love the Mossad. Never afraid to take pictures of their super-secret-ninja-demolition-operation and publish it in a book! Hire van driven by israelis pulled over by police, mural.of burning towers on it's sides, dancing at the news of the bombing Way to mesh 2 stupid stories into one moronic claim. The "mural" story was a van seen downtown. Never confirmed and the photo of such was legitimately photo shopped for context, but conspiracy theorists of course used it as proof. And the "Dancing Israelis" were not observed dancing but photos they took of themselves showed them laughing and smiling inappropriately.
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  22. Stop it.
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  23. You have no idea what the term "theory" means when it comes to science.
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  24. That was a controlled demolition No it wasn't.
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  25. The coroner ruled it a homicide.
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  26. It was not.
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  27. Nah!
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  28. over 3,000 architecture and engineers say that steel buildings do Not collapse like the wtc did Name them. am i dumb 😐
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  29.  @Stantheman848  Ok gullible. The flat earthers are calling you.
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  30.  @Stantheman848  And enjoy the borscht comrade. Dont do anything to get sent to the gulag.
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  31.  @XxDanny80xX  No he didn't and no it wasn't. You're full of shit making it up as you go. Try harder. You're boring me.
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  32. THE DAY BEFORE 9/11 The mis-accounted money dates back 50 years. It wasn't missing, just not accounted for.
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  33. Oh stop your nonsense.
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  34.  @a.benaway_racing  Ooooo Feel the burn 🙄
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  35. Oh Jesus! Numerology! 🤦‍♂
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  36. You're wrong on 2 fronts.
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  37.  @Ollieofwrexham  I don't think I implied any qualifications. Which is why I wouldn't have the ego to claim the conclusions of experienced engineers who access to all the evidence was incorrect.
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  38.  @mystictraveler8642  For what? Let's be specific.
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  39.  @krosecans  What expertise do you have in investigating high rise building collapses?
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  40.  @Ollieofwrexham  Could you be more specific? I have a lot of comments in this thread.
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  41. Collapsed after burning 4 hours past its fire rating.
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  42. @LoveCaveDiving  Holy almost missed this: "Hardly burned"? WTC7 had multiple fires on at least 10 floors. Multiple on scene firefighters described it as "fully involved". There was so much fire the FDNY considered it a lost cause by noon and declared a collapse zone at 2. It was possibly the largest office fire in history and burned 4 hours past its fire rating. Never mind champ. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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  43. WTF are you even talking about?
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  44. WTC6 was the only building in between WTC1 and WTC7. Standing at only 8 stories it never came close to impeding the debris coming down from the 110 story WTC1, which was only 350' from WTC7.
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  45. Israeli intelligence - mossad did it No they didn't. They had the most to gain by us destroying their Muslim neighbors And the most to lose if discovered. WAY more than they would have benefited by success. Which also begs the question: exactly what did they gain after 9/11? because they were in it for the oil Most of the oil contracts went to British and Russian companies. simple No kidding.
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  46. Pretty sad when you have to appeal to the academic integrity of YouTube.
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  47. Why?
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  48. 9/11 was an inside job It was not. You had better look into who was in charge of the Twin Towers. I'll help you out. It was Neil Bush 🤦‍♂ Cripes. You're so ignorant you can't even get the stupid conspiracy theories right.
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  49. a building collapse at free fall speed in its own footprint Didn't happen on 9/11 either. which had not even been touched by a plane Did some memo go out from fantasy central that got cut off? Because you all seem unaware that WTC7 was impacted by hundreds of tons of superheated steel and concrete.
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  50. 4:45 Just stop there Joe! First off, the "missing money" was never missing, just unaccounted for. From multiple different accounting systems that didn't talk to one another and therefore didn't correlate expenditures. It's like this: I own a farm. I go and buy a tractor. I withdraw $30,000 from my bank account. I don't give the receipt for the tractor to my accountant. A week later she sees that $30,000 is missing from account and nothing to offset this. Now, is this money actually missing? Did it go out the back door? No! It's sitting in my yard in the form of a tractor! As soon as she calls me and I forward the receipt that money goes from "missing" to "found". The same here with the Pentagon. The $2.3 Trillion Rumsfeld was speaking about was the Pentagon's 50 year budget history and poor accounting systems. No different than what I described. As soon as they started cleaning up their systems, which they did, the money started to become "found". By Feb/02 the amount outstanding was down to $700 Billion and it was continuing to drop. And this ridiculous claim about where AA77 hit: yes, it impacted where one of the Pentagon's accounting offices was located. But the Pentagon does not keep it's 50 year history on a few desk tops in one office! There is nothing to suggest that this office was even working on this project let alone they were the sole office doing it! The stupid only gets more ramped up as I've heard some CTers suggest the back up files were kept in WTC7! [face palm]
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  51.  @anthonyquinn5927  How long should it take to fall?
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  52.  @pryingopenmythirdeye1830  If you're not going to bother reading the thread and comments where I answer this very question, then I cannot be bothered to take you or your mail-order Ukrainian girlfriend seriously. So go slap on the tin foil hat in order to keep out the bad thoughts and slip on Loose Change for a little confirmation bias. And stay there because if you bring up 9/11 with me I'll leave you whimpering in the corner like all the others.
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  53.  @asanti3748  👍
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  54.  @pryingopenmythirdeye1830  Yes. I'm over 50. As if that's an argument. Geez I didn't think I'd feel sorry for you but you're clearly intellectually unarmed for a reasonable discussion. Good luck. Velcro sneakers are far easier BTW.
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  55. @Sly Tora So much nonsense on the internet. So much to do! 😉
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  56. @Sly Tora The video is about JFK explaining who is actually running our country How do you know it's accurate?
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  57. @Sly Tora Asking for evidence is trolling? Go figure.
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  58. @Sly Tora I don't wish to engage in a 'Yes it is/No it isn't' back and forth for 6 posts and I also don't argue-by-youtube. Can you hit a few highlights on these "secret societies" and how you know they exist?
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  59. @Sly Tora You mean.....like a summary? Literally happens for every movie.
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  60. I don't get my information from severe brain injury victims.
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  61. Right. It was from the previous dozen.
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  62. L@rry $ilv3rst3in didn’t go to his appointment within the building that day So what? some would say it’s a lucky coincidence Same for Willie Rodriguez? what are the odds that BOTH of his adult children...also did not show up for work Given that it's a past event that occurred, the odds are exactly 100%. But not so mysterious when you realize that they would meet early when their father was there for breakfast. Him not being there, they were on their way to the Towers for their normal office time of 9am. it’s similar to the odds of getting struck by lightning…twice About 1 in 9 million? Which is less than winning the lotto. Which happens.
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  63. How? Rumsfeld never refers to this money as "missing" or "stolen".
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  64. No. Just no.
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  65.  @guyindecatur  That'd be "rabbi" Dov Zackheim Do you have evidence he was involved in something nefarious or is 'Jews did it!' just your go-to response?
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  66. On 9/11 Cheney oversaw multiple war games and terror drills He did not. But let's hypothetically believe he was. How did this interfere with NEADS' response? Jet Fueld does not burn hot enough to melt steel No one said it did. was also placed in a supervisory management role over the activities of the entire effort, which were operational under FEMA’s supreme command. “Planning and training” Which does not give him command of war games. Where did you copy and paste this nonsense from?
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  67. NIST WTC7 Final Report
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  68. Maybe. I see him more as hand waving past anything he finds inconvenient. I think he does it here: on one hand he says "every A & E, every A & E" and when Joe points out there are engineers who disagree with Gage then it's "a smear campaign".
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  69. 95% of UA93 was excavated with the help of 1500 local workers.
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  70. Lots of plane debris was found at the Pentagon and there was nothing "spontaneous" about WTC7 after burning for 7 hours.
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  71. And 2 years later it's still not a thing.
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  72. The Pentagon lawn was literally littered with aircraft debris.
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  73. Boy. You kinda skipped a whole President. Because Trump added the same amount to the debt in 4 years that Obama did in 8. And did this with a roaring economy (which is unheard of) while Obama was dealing with the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. But we all know what a Lefty Commie Trump was. 🙄
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  74. So much wrong in this from both sides. Utterly useless for anything.
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  75. Sounds like you read The World News: "Brazilian Woman gives birth to vampire baby".
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  76. Yes it was.
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  77. No videos of a leprechaun either.
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  78. The only places that had evidence of there debt was in the twin towers, building 7 and the Pentagon It still amazes me how you fools will just make shit up and spout it as fact. Funny how building 7 bow its self up Just stupid.
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  79. 🤦‍♂ Everything. Everything! you just wrote was wrong. It was Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta. He was in the PEOC underneath the White House. He was speaking with Dick Cheney. When asked if the orders still stand Cheney angrily snapped back at the office if he had heard anything differently. Everything wrong. Astonishing.
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  80. Not sure exactly what fire/heat does to explosives in terms of setting them off, but the wiring would surely be affected. Or any timers. There's just no way they survive the extreme heat of 1000C normal to office fires.
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  81. Why? They were vetted and let go because they had nothing to do with the attacks.
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  82. We know that was a inside job No you don't. why did they have armed guards at the elevators What are you talking about?
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  83. NASA's budget is far down the list if govt spending with the military getting more than half the discretionary spending. NASA is about 3% of military spending.
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  84. No money was lost or "loose".
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  85.  @josejacquez9176  Not what I said and "unaccounted" for doesn't mean it was lost, "loose", missing or stolen.
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  86. Neither Rumsfeld nor any other report claims the money is "missing".
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  87. Both Towers survived the plane impacts. Sooo..... No. No one claims that.
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  88. Is that your best evidence? Coincidence?
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  89. How?
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  90. it was an inside job It was not. the buildings were insured against terrorism There was no "terrorism" clause at the time. It was considered such a low probability it was standard on a policy. "the third building" also collapsed. It wasn't hit Is that what you really believe? You think WTC7 wasn't hit by anything?
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  91. Yes. AA77.
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  92. Eddie in his head: Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together
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  93. No.
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  94. He can't know something that is demonstrably untrue.
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  95. No and no.
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  96.  @Theganjaman88  Actually Khalid Sheik Muhammed was the mastermind behind 9/11 and Mohammed Atta was logistical leader when on American soil. UBL was the leader of the organization that provided permission and support for the attacks to go forward. So look, you got another thing wrong.
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  97. So?
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  98. There is no fire that could do that No one says it did. In fact, no report on any of the 3 collapses claim that any support columns buckled due to heat-induced failure.
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  99. Pretty good since the military trains virtually every day. I'd say almost 1:1.
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  100. Over 100 witnesses saw a plane hit the Pentagon. No one described a missile.
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  101.  @LP-ju2fi  LMGTFY "Pentagon Plane Parts" Took me 30 seconds. You couldn't do that in 21 years?
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  102. Why do you think no investigative reporter has written about this Because it was a meaningless building that the FDNY predicted would collapse since about noon on 9/11.
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  103. By that reasoning they don't even have to admit the accounting error, do they?
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  104. It was not.
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  105. It was not. And there are no reports from AE911T. Only conjecture they wrap as legitimacy.
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  106. The speech by Rumsfeld was because of an audit. One of several over the last few years. Not once did he claim the money was lost, missing or stolen.
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  107. all I got to say is building 7 Why? It's meaningless.
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  108. the video of Larry silverstine admitting that they pulled the building That didn't happen. he had blue prints of the new world trade center before 9-11 He did not.
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  109. got the Israeli‘s to do 911 They did not. jet fuel don’t burn hot enough to melt steel No one claims it did. I rest my case Then we can dismiss all charges due to lack of evidence.
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  110. I really hate that word. So let's get this going so I can embarrass the shit out of you.
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  111.  @Mik3yLow  it's my concern to give a shit about your sensitive fucking feelings I didn't say it was. I was stating my reasons for turning you upside down and shake the stupid out of you. You can neither sensor nor embarrass me Some people are like that. They're literally too stupid to insult. I'm not your kind That's for damn sure. I do not associate with ignorance. You ready to get this started? I'm waiting to see how far down the rabbit hole of 9/11 idiocy you are.
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  112.  @Mik3yLow  Where did you go bitch? I'm not done with you yet.
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  113. Why?
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  114. Are you having a mental break down?
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  115. Hundreds of cameras at the Pentagon Why do you believe that? and there's no video of a plane hitting it There are 3. None show much. Not to mention Hani Hanjour could not have possibly pulled that maneuver in a jet Why? What impossible about turning the jet right? It was more than likely a cruise missile There's no evidence of this.
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  116. There's no evidence of this.
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  117. most Americans are too naive to see it Or live outside echo chambers.
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  118. It was probably never near the explosion of the fuel and it was found before either Tower collapsed. But if you'd like to look up the odds look up the WTC 9/11 museum where they have literally hundreds of wallets and identifications that were recovered.
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  119. Cheney apparently made $4.5 Billion personally From what? The missing trillions apparently went on unaccountable "DoD financial experts, [Comptroller Dov] Zakheim said, are making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. And, he added, the amount continues to drop."
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  120. It was not "missing". Rumsfeld never used that word. It was unaccounted for due to outdated systems.
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  121. The reason was a false flag of American ship being attacked You know an actual attack took place on the USS Maddox in the Gulf of Tonkin, right?
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  122. I believe at least 4 were videoed going through security and in the Dulles airport. How does that change anything?
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  123. Who is "they"?
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  124. Biden is actually trying to win the election.
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  125. There was lots of intelligence that could have been put together to reveal the plan, but the well known wall between the CIA and FBI kept them from sharing this. Each had their own pieces of the puzzle but neither had enough to form the who, what, where, when and how. Deportment of Homeland Security was supposed to eliminate this problem but they eventually devolved into their own fiefdom and the lack of cooperation came back. * the CIA would plot the demolition of their own building* What building are you talking about?
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  126. It wasn't. He is not.
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  127. who massively profited He received about $5 billion less in insurance than what it took to rebuild the WTC complex. On top of the $120 million per year owed to the NY Port Authority on properties he couldn't rent. Silverstein Properties lost money because of the attacks. No mention of the i$LIErael "art students" there They were Austrian. Or the i$LIErael Terrorists filming it or being caught on George Washington Bridge "Moving systems" Van Arrested, held for 70 days, vetted and released after finding no evidence they were involved. It was i$LIErael that should have been Nuked Your bigotry is showing Adolph.
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  128. 🤣🤣 Please tell me who so I never fly with them!
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  129. Yes, pentagon. Boom, gone The DoD has 18 accounting offices in the Pentagon. Their 50 year budget history isn't kept on a few desktops in one office. WTC 7 ! Boom, gone Evidence?
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  130. Why? And what about the Pentagon? And Shankesville?
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  131. An airliner can not be flown at that speed and that low off the ground, and hit the Pentagon Why?
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  132. You did not see a video of a missile hitting the Pentagon. You're lying.
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  133. "steel beard" That's a new one! 😆
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  134.  @Mary-t5d5c  they did vaporize in thin air They did not. 350,000 tons of steel was recovered and sent to recycling yards.
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  135.  @Mary-t5d5c  What was all the clouds of crap Mostly drywall. Confirmed by 2 different dust analyses. but many many many did turn to powder They did not. It's not only completely unsupported by any evidence, it's ludicrous on its face. Shessh some people's kids Tell me about it. 😐
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  136.  @coolyoutubename16  the dust contained microspheres of iron So what? "The formation of iron and other type spheres at temperatures obtainable by the combustion of petroleum or coal based fuels is not a new or unique process. The spheres are the same as iron and alumino-silicate spheres in the well-studied fly ash formed from contaminants in coal as it it is burned in furnaces." -RL Lee Well done on bringing up the irrelevant.
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  137. No there aren't. No you aren't. No it isn't. Try again.
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  138. The hijackers took flight lessons from schools all over the country, not just Florida. How many governors are you accusing of being "in on it"?
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  139. What?
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  140. Only a fool doesn't know when people are laughing at him, not with him.
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  141. Why?
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  142. Actually he's able to distinguish and talk about things he knows and things he doesn't. Something Eddie should learn.
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  143. we already know NOT ONE of the supposed hijackers were on the actual flight manifests How do you know that? I'm going to tell you a little secret: there's a difference between a passenger list and a victim's list. Good luck. reported themselves in asking to be removed No one from the list provided at the FBI September 28th press conference naming the hijackers have been found alive. Their respective governments have all confirmed their identities and complicity in the attacks. we have yet to see one single frame of the hijackers in line Two hijackers were confirmed on camera coming through security. Two others were shown being questioned in Dulles. The flight attendant Betty Yung Ong. yet it didn't take up the entire fuselage You know this how?
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  144. Pickles. sailing vessels. Archipelagos. Aren't we just screaming out words?
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  145. Yes, if you would like to immerse yourself in exactly what didn't happen on 9/11, read any one of these bozos.
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  146. Think about this: your conspiracy theory is irrelevant since none of the money was ever missing, lost or stolen.
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  147. Or he recognizes when someone is spewing conspiracy bullshit.
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  148. Why? Do you not believe in democracy?
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  149.  @dougreed9843  No gold disappeared below WTC7 because it wasn't held there. And no gold disappeared below WTC4 where it was actually held. There was evidence someone tried to break in so guards were posted to protect it.
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  150. If you talk to people who know what they’re talking about, they say it’s 100% a controlled demo Nonsense. I'll give you a list of engineering groups who disagree with you. as someone who went to college to be an engineer, I 100% agree You need to give that degree back.
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  151. Who collected the Insurance money after it collapsed Silverstein Properties. Which left them about $5 billion short to rebuild the complexes so they were dependent on public funds they have to repay.
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  152. He didn't. The bin Laden's did not fly either domestically or internationally until those restrictions were lifted for everyone.
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  153. No & Collapsed after burning 4 hours past its fire rating. Not a surprise.
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  154. @Hobojet  jet fuel created the molten metal No one claims this. that was running down the channel rails See if you can figure out in that sentence where your logic breaks down for it being molten steel. Learn about the mossad operation "documenting the event" I know it. The Israelis were only observed after the first plane strike and they "documented the event" along with thousands of Manhattanites. Maybe ask yourself why you only find it suspicious that Jews do it and not the thousands of white people. the insider trading prior to 9/11 90% of it was traced to one trader with no ties to anyone involved in the attacks and was based off months of documentation of a declining airline industry. Explain FBI removing all security camera footage from around the Pentagon SOP for any crime. Rob a convenience store and the first thing they ask for is the security footage. And it's all since been released, BTW. Explain the 2.3 trillion missing from Pentagon budget It was never missing and Rumsfeld never said so. It's never a good look when I know your claims better than you do. the missile hitting the budget analysts office Which was one of 18. The DoD doesn't keep its 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office. But I will give you some credit: at least you weren't foolish enough to say that's why they destroyed WTC7.
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  155.  @Hobojet  where do you get this stuff From the gathered evidence. I understand why you wouldn't know about this. Famous footage of firefighters saying the molten metal was running down the channel rails I absolutely believe they saw molten metal. Can you understand why it most likely wasn't molten steel running down steel channels? Go on. Take a guess. See if you can figure it out. As well as pictures and videos Do you have a metallurgical report showing molten steel? There is still molten debries hot enough to melt concrete in the museums You mean the meteorite with steel rebar sticking out of it? How does concrete melt but not steel? Insider trading linked to the Bush family It was not. NORAD drills on the day Which had no effect on NEADS response. In fact, ranking officials said these drills allowed a quicker response because commanders were already at their stations for the drills. most secure building still no pictures of aircraft Secure how? Explain what cameras were in place to capture an incoming aircraft. What about the testemonony of Norman Mineta You mean when he testified he arrived at the WH as it was being evacuated which was at 9:45? In case you don't know, that's 7 minutes after the Pentagon was hit. Passport goes through exploding buildings Did it? Because it was probably already half way through the building before the wings with the fuel even entered the building. And most likely already out of the building before the fuel ignited. Nah, none of what you believe happened.
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  156. No money was lost.
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  157.  @W1HURI  Ok Boris. Tell me: what's the borscht like in St Petersburg?
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  158. Just no.
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  159. @alwilson3204  Yes they did. I don't think you even know what the claim is supposed to be which is "two planes flew after the attacks" which also didn't happen. And gee golly. An emergency response unit set up to train for a simulated emergency response in the largest city in the world!? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you!
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  160. What "WOW"? The money was never missing.
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  161. There's no evidence of controlled demolition.
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  162. But I also don't think that planes alone destroyed 3 buildings They didn't. The Towers stood for 105 & 55 minutes after the impacts.
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  163.  @thiskraftworks  Operation Northwoods You understand that plan never called for the killing of American citizens, right?
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  164. Three letters: WTF?
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  165. @kessd369  You should stay out of international economics when you don't have a clue what you're talking about. The US dollar is used as the unit of measurement for value, but each country pays in their own currency. So Japan pays in Yen. Russia pays in Rubbles. Germany pays in Euros. Meaning Iraq switching to a Petro-Dollar has Zero effect on the US economy because they're still paying the value of the Petro-Dollar against the international value. Stay in the shallow end, child.
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  166. @W1HURI  And it took you a year to figure that out? Yeah. Not sweating your world economic opinion.
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  167.  @W1HURI  But i wont bother to correct you Well, those who can, do. Those who can't, brag about their ignorance on the internet.
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  168. im always gona believe it was an inside job Well, I can't reason you out of something you weren't reasoned into.
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  169. "I'll be the first to admit that our film definitely contains errors. It still does contain some dubious claims, and definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts .....I'm just saying that Loose Change is really not a fair representation of the 9/11 Truth movement." -Loose Change director Dylan Avery YT - Loose Change Debate 9/11 Program 1 Part 1 6:55
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  170. How fast should it collapse?
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  171.  @anthonyquinn5927  You didn't answer my question. You're the one making a claim: how fast should a 47 story building collapse? And are you unaware that WTC7 was hit by hundreds of tons of steel and concrete when WTC1 collapsed?
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  172.  @anthonyquinn5927  If you dont know how long it should take to fall how can you conclude 7 seconds doesnt make sense? Think about your answer before responding.
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  173. There's no evidence of your claims.
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  174.  @mckcpaul1  What the goddamn does any of that have to do with 9/11? Hussein was an ally with the West when he was fighting Iran. Until he became he wasn't by invading Kuwait. Learn some friggin history before posting!
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  175.  @mckcpaul1  some guy in the mountains of Afghanistan UBL lived comfortably in a compound outside of Jalalabad. His mountain retreat was simply a ruse to project an image to his followers. orchestrated two commercial jets to bring down two 110 story skyscrapers with a SAT phone UBL had very little to do with the logistical operation beyond allowing it to proceed. Khalid Sheik Muhammed was the mastermind of the plot and Mohammed Atta ran the operation state side. and a handful of boxcutters Ok Marky Wahlberg but the terrorists also used the threat of bombs. Up until that moment people on the planes believed it would play out like all other hijackings: they'll land and negotiations would start. The best thing to do, with the unknown, was to sit back and let it happen. Thank God Rumsfeld and who ever else in the US government helped Hussein get these chemical weapons You keep saying that but like all conspiracy theories you simply make a leap of faith without once considering other aspects. Like the head of a chemical company meeting the head of state of a country simply so he could sell his products there. Where you lack any sort of evidence is providing something showing they knowingly sold WMDs. You believe because you want to believe. Do you actually believe the governments version of 911 I believe what the evidence has shown. And this evidence exists elsewhere than in a press release from the White House. the only reasons for invading iraq was oil Most of the Iraqi oil contracts went to British and Russian companies. You don't know much about this subject, do you?
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  176. @mckcpaul1  Gee. With the big bad US doing all these dastardly deeds someone might get really mad about it. And do something. Like attack them on their own soil. But I'm just spitballin' here. from the people who actually design and build these steel framed skyscapers You mean like WTC Structual Engineer of record Leslie Robertson who full endorses NIST'S conclusions of a fire induced progressive collapse? People like that?
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  177.  @mckcpaul1  No threat to anyone? 3000 civilians murdered on their shores, and that isn't a threat? Are you at all capable of independent thought?
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  178.  @mckcpaul1  You skipped over my previous point: you said you take the opinion of people who actually build skyscrapers. Leslie Robertson actually built the buildings we're talking about and he fully endorses the NIST Report. Do you accept his opinion? The mental gymnastics should be good here.
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  179. @mckcpaul1  And yet here is your comment without anything about WTC builder Leslie Robertson. Maybe Free Speech exist when it's actually used.
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  180.  @mckcpaul1  I mention a certain website which has over 3000 signatures from architects and engineers Which A & E's? Was it the computer engineer? The electrical engineer? The elevator engineer? Maybe it's the landscape engineer? You say you listen to people who actually build these skyscrapers yet you offer a list of people, most of who posses neither the education, knowledge or experience to discuss complex high rise buildings. There are less than that 250 people with the qualifications to offer any opinion. But you don't know that and don't care because you have your appeal to authority which goes over well in the echo chamber. Yet when faced with the knowledge that the person who actually built the WTCs fully agrees with the NIST findings, you suddenly go silent. And I haven't even gotten into the multiple other engineering groups who also agree with NIST nor the 2 independent FEA analyses supporting their conclusions. Tell yourself what you need to. There is nothing rational or scientific in your beliefs.
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  181. @mckcpaul1  And I addressed AE911T's list and how it is made up of unqualified professionals to comment on high rise collapses. So the real question is: why do you believe these non-builders over actual WTC builder Leslie Robertson?
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  182.  @mckcpaul1  You ARE avoiding my question! What do you say about Leslie Robertson. Do not add anything other than this.
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  183.  @mckcpaul1  and how he blamed himself for their failure Which has exactly what to do with NIST's collapse explanation? Stop the waffling! The lead Structural Engineer of the very buildings under discussion, regarded one of the top SE's in the US when he was alive, states the NIST Report is accurate in it's collapse progression conclusions. He was the only one alive of the architects and engineers who worked on the project to witness the conditions the buildings were subjected to. Not theoretical but real world. Do you believe him or not?
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  184. @mckcpaul1  Peter Ketcham was a software designer employeed to review apps. He was never involved even remotely with the WTC Reports and has absolutely no qualifications to comment on structural engineering or complex collapses. Yes we can absolutely see who you are choosing to believe and why. You are not entitled to your own opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one has the right to make up their own facts.
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  185. @mckcpaul1  What's sad is you started by saying you believe people who actually build these skyscrapers and what see is you actually believe those who don't build skyscrapers but simply tell you what you want to hear! And you don't believe those who actually do because they don't. And what's really sad is you don't see a problem with that.
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  186. @mckcpaul1  I hope you liked writing that rant. Good to get it out if your system. It wasn't worth anything beyond therapeutic. Do you not understand that your "Robertson blames himself" doesn't help you? That he he wished he built a building more robust to survive the attacks? But he didn't. And they collapsed because of the conditions they endured. Not explosives. You believe people without expertise. You don't believe those who do. That's your bottom line.
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  187. is in no way shape or form a conspiracy, its a fucking fact It is not. No money was "missing" and it didn't go out the door on 9/10/01. Rumsfeld was giving an update on a routine audit; something he had done 3 times previously. The date is no more suspicious that those other 3 times when nothing happened. And in his speech he never once uses the words "missing", "lost" or "stolen". You should try reading it some time.
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  188. are the same people who tell you what happen 9/11 doesn't exist in a press release from the White House. they never had an invesigation 9/11 was the most investigated crime in US history. And literally started at 8:47 am, September 11, 2001 when the FBI called office SAC's to their stations to begin gathering evidence.
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  189.  @arlichar11  the problem is they told us what happened either the same day or the next I simply don't get this. It wasn't held secret that hijackers commandeered planes and used them as missiles. And it wasn't a huge leap of imagination that the number one terrorist in the world, who vowed to attack America, was the quick and obvious suspect. Lots more got fleshed out but at it's core it wasn't a difficult story to find out. the buildings were quickly cleaned up and disposed of.. there was no reports of evidence It took almost a year to completely clear the site. All of the debris was taken to Fresh Kills Landfill where everything was swabbed by hundreds of NYPD detectives and forensic officers. This task continued for 10 years. I'd very much like your definitions of "quickly", "disposed" and "no...evidence". the problem is so many things dont add up, and are extremely suspicious Like what else? It's pretty clear your first claims are not based on facts.
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  190.  @rastiga9196  Like wreckage from the site starting to be shipped to China in the first two weeks The first steel didn't leave for China until Jan/02 after American companies wouldn't touch it because of the emotional connection. The last steel was removed from The Pil until May/02. All of the debris was taken to Fresh Kills Landfill where all of it was swabbed by hundreds of NYPD detectives and forensic experts. They did this for 10 years. Or how ALL 7 buildings of the world trade center being demolished No buildings were demolished until well after the attacks. How about the suspicious amount of put options placed on the twin tower Cripes. You all can't even keep your false claims straight. It wasn't the Towers. It was the Airline industry. And they were mostly traced to a single investor who had been following an industry in decline for several months. of the 700+ that were confiscated by the FBI Evidence there was more than one camera that caught the incoming aircraft. How about the dancing Israelis Held and vetted for 70 days and released after finding no evidence they were involved. saying they were there to record the event The translation is "document the event" which they did along with about 1000 other Manhattanites with cameras and camcorders. How about the broadcaster in Britain saying world trade 7 has collapsed 15 minutes before it actually collapsed Jane Standey was actually in NYC when she stated this. And so what? Do you know why she made the mistake she did? Much, much more Please. Keep going.
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  191. So you respect paid government shills? Let's see how long it takes you to figure that out.
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  192. The day Trump stops claiming he's the best at every single thing ever.
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  193. Eddie is not right about anything.
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  194. What would you like to know about it.
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  195. The only thing dumber than 9/11 inside job theories is numerology.
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  196. @Chad03Cobra  And that's simply your ego talking. Convincing yourself you're the smartest guy in the room. When all you did was add some numbers together and then divided and made up the rest. Honestly if you don't see the stupidity in that then call Scientology because I'm sure they'll take you
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  197. @Chad03Cobra  You can literally come up with any outcome you want as long as you keep dividing/multiplying/adding/subtracting for how ever long it takes! There's nothing dumber than numerology but Nostradamus predictions come pretty damn close.
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  198.  @Chad03Cobra  Enjoy your delusion. It must make dealing with the world easier.
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  199. 911 was an inside job It was not. they found traces of thermite and nano thermite They did not. in the dust that once was 110 story skyscraper That's stupid. bldg 7 fell into its own footprint WTC7 collapsed into neighboring Verizon Building. along with all of the evidences against Enron 🤦‍♂ Enron executives were convicted of fraud and went to jail. and that gold disappeared It did not. There was early evidence an attempted break in happened so guards were posted. what brought down those towers was a direct energy weapon Which has never been demonstrated to exist before, during and after 9/11. changed the molecular structure of the concrete which powdered and the thermite was so hot it melted the steel Why didn't the DEW work on the steel? Theres no way an aluminum plane could pierce through steel and concrete F=M x A that hole in the ground at Shanksville was already there It was not. And Cheney said "ofcourse it still stands have you heard any different" So what? which just happened to be what? a mock attack on the twin towers It was not. It was standard hijacking with the plane landing and issuing demands. You literally got everything wrong. Id say that was surprising but par for the course with truthers.
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  200. No report claims the final global release of WTC7 perimeter columns was due to heat induced failure.
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  201. It's tough to get insurance on demolition companies who use fire when it destroys or damages 10 buildings in the surrounding area.
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  202. Because the buildings stood for 105 and 55 minutes, respectively. People evacuated with the plane strikes.
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  203. Or maybe you're just shitty at searching.
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  204. @jackdavid8355  Doubtful. "Work" is when you actually get paid for something. Excessive masturbation doesn't count as work. So pry yourself away from the porn and try a little harder at finding the stupid conspiracy videos since they seem so important to your miserable life. How has Scientology not snatched you up?
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  205. @jackdavid8355  Well, tell yourself whatever you need to to sleep at night, incel. I found this video by chance years ago. You had some sort of CTer epiphany a few days ago. If you feel that requires a degree then we're talking about a whole other conversation. One which involves you being "evaluated".
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  206. Joe Rogan must believe in magic Why?
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  207. Over 100 witnesses saw a plane hit the Pentagon. No one describes seeing a missile.
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  208. Search "Plasco Buiulding: Tehran" And no building collapsed fully at Free Fall Acceleration. There is no Free Fall Speed.
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  209. It was paint.
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  210.  @danw.7935  unable to find any peer review for it Neither was the Harrit/Jones paper. It was reviewed by Truther advocates. That's not peer review. And one isn't needed when their own paper shows they found paint. Kaolinite platelets on the XEDS. Endothermic reaction not exothermic. Ignites hundreds degrees lower than thermite. They lit a paint chip on fire and called it paint. And several years ago samples were sent to Mark Basile to verify the results. $5000 was raised for this procedure. Mark took the money and ran. The only reason NIST dissagreed with the finding was a lack of proper chain of custody procedures for the sample I imagine NIST could care less about their findings because even if it was thermite it still doesn't prove CD because there is absolutely no evidence to support WTCs 1,2 & 7 were anything but a natural collapse.
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  211. No. Because it wasn't said.
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  212.  @lizards7777  Where does Silverstein say quote "pull the building"? Do you not know your own claim?
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  213.  @lizards7777  No you didn't. Because this is the quote: "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse." So again: where does he say, quote, "so we dicided to just pull the building."?
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  214.  @lizards7777  Are you having trouble understanding the question? Where does Silverstein state they "pulled the building"? We're 7 posts in now, I've asked the same question each time, and you've yet to address this. One more time: where does Silverstein state "so we dicided to just pull the building"? An acceptable answer is, he didn't.
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  215.  @lizards7777  The part I dont get is where he says "pull the building". As I've quoted and highlighted in several posts. I dont need you to quote me what I've already quoted to you. What I need is you to provide evidence of your claim: where he says "pull the building". I literally cannot make it any clearer than that
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  216.  @lizards7777  what do you think he meant So we're finally through the looking glass! Where you're not actually quoting what he said, but your interpretation of what he meant. Ok. So you believe by "pull it" he means the building because he follows with "and we watched the building collapse". Two things: when did they attach the cables to WTC7 to "pull it" down, which is the literal demolition definition of "pulling a building"? Oh, and what division in the FDNY is the "Demolition Division"? You remember that Silverstein was on the phone with a FDNY commander right? So if the building is "pulled" following this conversation, it was the FDNY that did it, right? This is your theory? I have more. Let's start there.
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  217.  @lizards7777  first off it's not cables You're missing the point Lizard. If you're making the claim that "pull it" is a term for demolishing a building, then you have to apply what that term means. In demolition terms, "pulling a building" means to literally attach cables to supports in a building and literally pull the building down. That's what it actually means. In fact, they actually did this for WTC6. If you are now arguing that that did not take place, then we are left with Silverstein meaning something else when he said "smartest thing to do is pull it". Which is it Lizard?
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  218.  @lizards7777  pull is what the boss would say to the worker bees to hit the button to bring down a building Where are you getting this? And again: which division in the FDNY is the Demo Division?
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  219.  @lizards7777  you do realize that there has never been another bld to collapse from fire of this size You do realize there has never been a building over 31 stories to have been brought down by CD. By your logic, that rules out controlled demolition. Amazing first time ever and he card it perfectly That's assuming by "pull it" he means CD. We aren't there yet.
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  220.  @lizards7777  he just meant it's time to bring it down So why is he also saying the FDNY did that? "...and they made that decision to pull". Are there any other interpretations you want to attribute to him? nist says it came down due to fire for the first time in history and you believe What do you find scientifically impossible with NIST's findings?
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  221.  @lizards7777  Liberty plaza ny, was 54 floors and was cd Ok. Mostly wrong and partially you got me on a technicality. Liberty Plaza was not Cd'd and stands today. It was, however, built on the spot of the Singer Tower; a 41 story building which was CD'd. So you got me on the technicality. But the Singer Tower was not brought down using explosives. It was demolished top down, floor by floor, manually, and took over a year to complete. The JL Hudson Building in Detroit, at 30 floors was the tallest building brought down with explosives (there was a 31 story tower in Las Vegas that was violently CD'd but was smaller by height than Hudson). I still don't get what your saying That you've provided a statement which doesn't mean CD-by-explosives given to an organization which doesn't do CD's! All given Silverstein's clarification: "As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.” Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building." If you're done you're done. But you're missing out on a valuable education.
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  222.  @lizards7777  no other building in history has ever collapse due to fire Search Plasco Building Tehran it fell at free fall speed For a small portion of its collapse. WTC7 collapsed fully 40% longer than Free Fall Acceleration. it's amazing the military was running terriost drills on the same day Were they? And why is this "amazing"? it's crazy it started a war with afganastan who had nothing to do with it Afghanistan was the country harboring UBL. Had they turned him over they would not have been invaded. says the lobby was full of them Again, why is this "crazy"? And the report of bodies in the lobby comes from Barry Jennings who was trapped in WTC7 for several hours. Even he says he didn't see bodies but felt like he was stepping over them. I just don't see how even if this is true it is evidence of an inside job. It's crazy how they say they could hear a explosions come from under there feet before the planes hit Ok let's unwrap this. You're talking about Willie Rodriguez. A janitor at WTC1 who helped firefighters unlock areas. First question: if he's in the basement, how does he know when the planes hit? And WR was interviewed on 9/11 by news outlets and never mentioned bombs in the building. He did an interview on CNN a year later and never mentioned bombs in the building. He was interviewed by NIST and gave testimony for a commission hearing. No mention of bombs in the building. It was only after 1004, having been out of work for 3 years, that he realizes he has an audience who want to hear there were bombs in the building.....and are willing to pay him for it. Only then does he start his "Bombs In The Building" tour. It's crazy how jet fuel will not create temp needed to melt steel beams Normal office fires reach temperatures of 1000C. Steel loses half its strength at 660C. it's crazy how Bush's was in charge of security's Jesus! No! I assume you're speaking of his brother, Marvin Bush. First off, the WTC property is owned by The New York Port Authority. The NYPA has its own police and provided their own security for the WTCs. Marvin Bush sat on the board for a company called Securacom. That company provided security equipment and software to the WTCs, but were in no way responsible for day to day security. And neither was Marvin Bush who left the board of Securacom in June 2000. how the month prior airplane insurance was pulled on the bldg I don't know what this means. It sounds like you're talking about the insurance taken out on the WTCs in June of 2001, which is when Silverstein won the contract. what have you offered me to improve my knowledge of the situation? If you read what I just wrote and honestly don't think I've answered that question, that all your claims are based on false information, then I couldn't possibly help you further.
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  223. The agency responsible for finding the missing 2 trillion was housed in building 7 No it wasn't. Which collapsed for no apparent reason You don't know anything about this subject, do you?
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  224. There's no evidence of this.
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  225. And you'd be right. Because none of that happened.
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  226.  @JCS1964-i7w  Yes you can forget about them because they were held for 70 days and released after finding no evidence tying them to the attacks nor any direct connections to Mossad.
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  227. I can't imagine how a plane can get that low to be able to strike at that angle What does this even mean? What is "impossible" about a plane crashing? you would think it would crash before Why? 'Just 'cause'?
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  228. No. And your bigotry is showing.
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  229. It was all done by George W Bush and Dick Chaney It was not. It was a Directed Energy Weapon It was not. That's not a thing. Directed Energy Weapons have been around since Nicola Tesla who invented them They have not. There has not been one demonstrable example of anything resembling what you're claiming here. The steel from the Towers turned to dust in the air It did not. and the only thing that could do that is high energy Since it did not happen this is false. Check out Dr. Judy Wood she is a scientist who can prove it was a Directed Energy Weapon Wood has not come close to demonstrating anything she is written has any basis in scientific fact, nor calculated the energy requirements for such a weapon. Oh. And spent 5 years in a coma from a severe brain injury.
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  230. Lost 2.3 trilloonnn dollars Rumsfeld never used the word "lost". because they prosest a strange election result Ahhh! Now your comments are making sense. which is legal But breaking into a government building and assaulting police is not. That really needed to be explained to you?
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  231. Thermite can be used in this application Thermite is an incendiary, not an explosive.
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  232. It was not.
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  233. “transcription error led to the confusion, but conspiracy theorists latched onto Rumsfeld’s supposed admission and spread it over the Internet.” - Parade magazine
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  234. flat earth is dumb as shot, but to answer your question, they believe a tall ice wall surrounds the earth, keeping everything in. And everyone saying differently is "in on it". Don't ask me why. That's as far down a rabbit hole of lunacy I intend to dive on this idiocy.
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  235. everyone should watch LOOSE CHANGE Which version? Because the information presented was so bad and wrong they had to make 3 more watered down versions of it.
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  236. Maybe because there's nothing to debate. Truther claims do not survive minimal scrutiny therefore any "mainstream media speaker" could verify this for themselves. It would be pointless to have some conspiracy theorist on when all they're going to do is make wild, unsubstantiated claims they have no evidence of.
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  237. @Deemah  You know you just offered an example of "the government" rejecting a false flag event, right?
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  238.  @deemahalsanonah1944  So you do believe not all "government" is the same monolithic entity?
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  239.  @deemahalsanonah1944  You're using a 50 year old plan, never implemented, and rejected by "the government", as some sort of "proof" for today. Even though that plan never called for the murder of American citizens nor attacks on American soil. Do you not see the madness of this claim?
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  240.  @deemahalsanonah1944  what madness people accept Bush lied about WMD No, the madness is for a second time you've used a claim about something else as "proof" of a 9/11 inside job. Do you ever plan on offering actual evidence of your claim? By the way, WMDs were found in Iraq. You should try looking up own assertions sometime. walking away from Afghanistan after giving the Taliban Do you understand that the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11? Of course you don't! even more sophisticated weapons including aircraft All military hardware left behind in Afghanistan was rendered inoperable. Cripes, stop branching out into subjects you know even less about.
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  241.  @deemahalsanonah1944  *American troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011, but their discoveries were kept secret by the U.S. government, the New York Times reports." -Yahoo News/2014 and Colin Powell had a vial of Iraqi WMD powder at the UN "Less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax, a little bit about this amount - this is just about the amount of a teaspoon - less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an envelope shut down the United States Senate in the fall of 2001." -Powell
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  242.  @deemahalsanonah1944  Yahoo.....reporting a story that appeared in the NY Times. You would have known that had you read it instead of just reacted. And he was showing an example of the amount that was sent to the Senate and brought it to a halt. He wasn't saying it was actually anthrax. Cripes that should have been obvious!
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  243. No. Very few believe that nonsense.
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  244. Rumsfeld never once said the money was "missing".
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  245.  @mikemcalkich4576  he does say it is missing without saying the exact words missing Did you really just try to call me out while admitting I was right? Only in conspiracy world does that kind of logic make sense. Rumsfeld never once says the money is missing, lost or stolen. He was describing outdated accounting systems that couldn't speak to each other and correlate transactions. He does not imply the money went out the back door, but receipts could not be tracked for expenditures on such things as tanks and helicopters. This was reported on at least a dozen times dating back to the Clinton administration. So you may want to take your own advice there champ. Because this was as dumb and ill-informed reply I've come across.
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  246. @mikemcalkich4576  What happened Mike? Realized you didn't "research" enough? [mic drop]
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  247. I don't think 9/11 was an inside job. And I'm far from a moron. Try me.
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  248.  @themadhanna  I'd guess you don't try women either. Not by your choice. But you knew what I meant. Nice hand waving. Always good to recognize your limitations early.
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  249. And then the black orange hole opens up and destroys everything it touches.
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  250. How is this proof of an inside job?
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  251. No.
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  252. get Dr. Judy Wood on your show He gets Eddie Bravo when he needs the crazy.
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  253.  @CashewBestofNuts  It only means "unproven" in the sense of definitively, open to further research. The "theory" of gravity is accepted as fact by all scientific methods and institutions. Again, you don't know what the word means I relation to science.
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  254. Not in regards to 9/11.
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  255. Rumsfeld never once claimed the money was missing or stolen.
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  256.  @jamesblevins5088  No it isn't. Missing implies that it is lost. Unaccounted for, in this case, means someone didn't turn in the receipt for the tank, metaphorically speaking.
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  257.  @jamesblevins5088  No I'm not splitting hairs because not only do you not know what Rumsfeld was talking about, you apparently don't know what a metaphor is. Pro tip: not to be taking literally. Because when I stated that someone didn't turn in a receipt for a tank I was M E T A P H O R I C A L L Y referring to the multiple outdated accounting systems Rumsfeld was speaking of that that couldn't speak to one another and correlate expenditures. So while approved money was going out the door for...oh let's say....tanks, planes, missiles, bullets, ships....hundreds of other legitimate military expenditures, the other side of the ledger wasn't accounting for these assets, therefore a cluster f*** of unaccounted for spending. Go back 50 years and thousands of such transactions and you start to come close what all this means. So when you say it was "stolen", all you're doing is showing your ignorance.
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  258. How did you react when u heard of those missing TRILLIONS No money was missing.
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  259. @nixbronowski5822  Quote me in Rumsfeld's speech where he says the money is "missing". Good luck. A.I. won't help you here.
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  260. @nixbronowski5822  Then try it. Go look up Rumsfeld's speech and quote me where he says the money is missing. Or is your "truth" just what you feel like believing?
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  261. @nixbronowski5822  Yes it's very clear. The side of facts. Which is why I know Rumsfeld never once uses the words missing, lost or stolen in his speech. Yes best to run along before your world view gets challenged.
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  262. Horse shit. There are multiple engineering groups who "fully endorsed" the NIST WTC Reports. There are 2 different FEA analyses that support NIST's conclusions. It is used in university level courses. Contractors have adopted NIST's recommendations in new construction. What Eddie really means is 'engineer after engineer who I invite on my show to support my bias.....'.
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  263. Deep state That's not a thing.
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  264. No. Very few people do. Like the QAnon crowd and that's it.
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  265.  @rudedog753x9  An entire report was written by NIST specifically on the collapse of WTC7. Tough to take you seriously when you don't know the basics on this subject.
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  266.  @rudedog753x9  You honestly couldn't be more bad at this. In case you missed it, the buildings didn't collapse because of the plane crashes. They stood for 105 & 55 minutes after the impacts. Obviously other factors were at play. Do you know anything about this topic?
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  267.  @rudedog753x9  Ok. More than 200 experienced engineers and 1500 contracted staff worked for 2 years with complete access to the available evidence and state of the art computer modeling to explain the collapses of the Twin Towers. What did they get wrong?
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  268.  @rudedog753x9  scroll down and read some other comments made by engineers "They were clearly imploded" Those are your words. Not the words of others. Can you explain yourself or not. How do you know better than experienced engineers? They all seem to agree that it was a controlled demolition Who does? Name them. Buildings don't fall straight down like that Which way do you think gravity works?
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  269. "We had to pull that one." [face palm] No. No he didn't. Neither you nor your wife saw this because you're making up what he said. It's close. So you can draw a different conclusion. But that isn't what he said at all. Try again with factual information.
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  270. Murray Bldg in OKC was holding documents about the Clintons that were about to be released Unbelievable. Do you not realize that when "they" control the building and the office "they" do not need to destroy a whole building to destroy documents. "They" can just walk it out the front door.
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  271.  @kenyoung5604  It took 9 months for the last steel to leave the site. Please define "rush" for me.
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  272.  @kenyoung976  as I recall, there was a seemingly rush to clear the site of debris Where your logic breaks down is the steel is the debris. Among other things. They didn't remove items around the steel only to leave it last. And the only "rush" was the first 2 weeks when it was still a search and rescue mission. They were more concerned with trying to save lives than satisfy the suspicions of conspiracy theorists. AND what you seem to be unaware of is that the site was cleared and taken to Fresh Kills Landfill where all 1.4 million tons of it, including 30,000 tons of steel, was sifted and swabbed by hundreds of NYPD detectives and forensic experts. They did this over 10 years. Would this be that complete testing and analysis you were expecting?
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  273.  @kenyoung976  the entire country forgot all about the missing $2.3 trillion dollars It was never missing. You may wish to trust your government blindly No. I just know what I'm talking about.
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  274. Any proof of these accusations? Now you know why they make movies about conservatives.
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  275. Why when there isn't any evidence suggesting it was?
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  276. @lmoneycoobreeze4007  WTCs 1 & 2 collapsed at 2/3's G WTC7 fully collapsed 40% longer than FFA. WTC7 was hit by hundreds of tons of steel and concrete when WTC1 collapsed. Far worse than a plane. Four fighter jets were scrambled on 9/11. All that was available on the East coast. Plane parts and victims identified by DNA found at Pentagon. Got any other nonsense you need corrected?
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  277.  @lmoneycoobreeze4007  Plasco Building Tehran Kader Toy Factory McCormick Center Chicago Delphi University Building.
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  278. @lmoneycoobreeze4007  You'll pardon me if I don't put a lot of stock in the opinion of someone who doesn't know hundreds of buildings and structures have collapsed from fire. It's kind of why $millions is spent in fire retardant to protect them.
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  279. The money was not stolen.
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  280. 9/11 insurance money Any settlement went to rebuilding the complex and rent owed. Silverstein Properties lost money because of the attacks.
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  281. 👍
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  282. 🤦‍♂️
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  283. When he realized appealing to fringe conspiracy theorists is a small, small market.
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  284. 5:48 This is known as the Texas Sharpshooter Logical Fallacy. Taking an event and inventing crap around it to promote an unproven theory.
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  285. Cool story Bro.
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  286. the shadow government That's not a thing. is and was, the ONLY image of that event Over 100 witnesses saw a plane hit the Pentagon. as such was smothered in CCTV cameras What evidence do you have that a camera was in place to capture an incoming aircraft? This is what has prompted me to write a book Why would you when you don't appear to know anything about this subject?
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  287. This comment is why society is in deep trouble.
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  288.  @magicM526  👍
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  289. Just no.
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  290. ur damn right it was a inside job It was not. 2*.3 trillion missing* Rumsfeld never one says the money is "missing". start a war to make money* If "they" actually had the power to conduct the attacks and cover it up, "they" wouldn't need to. all oil they got Most of the oil contracts went to British and Russian companies. and heroin Afghanistan doesn't export heroin.
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  291. No money was lost.
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  292.  @jacksquat4140  In Rumsfeld's speech, he never once used the words "missing", "lost" or "stolen". He was referring to a routine audit, conducted a year prior, in which the DoD couldn't track $2.3 trillion in transactions dating back almost it's entire 50 year budget history. This was due to multiple outdated accounting systems which couldn't talk to one another. It's like this: I own a farm and purchase a new tractor in cash, but I forget to tell my accountant or give him the bill of sale. Now at the end of the month my accountant notices $150,000 less funds in my account. Has that money been lost? Is missing? Was it stolen? No. It's sitting in field in the form of a tractor. As soon as I hand over the receipt the $150,000 is accounted for. Now do that 100,000 times over 50 years with tanks and planes and the $trillions start to add up. This is actually what Rumsfeld's speech was about: advocating for better systems so the money could be tracked better.
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  293. What?
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  294. There were multiple convictions in the Enron case.
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  295. It was not.
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  296. Just no.
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  297. Alibi from what?
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  298. Harrit found paint and called it thermite. His own tests show kaolinite platelets, consistent with paint. And what engineers are you speaking about?
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  299. Honestly, among the the dumbest, most incoherent accusations I've ever read. And I've read them all.
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  300. It was one accounting department. The Pentagon has 18. This did not stop the task of fixing systems and correlating expenditures.
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  301. What the hell are you talking about?
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  302.  @percydevries  And exactly how many times should it have been shown that day?
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  303. Because Trump is a moron.
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  304. Wall O' Text. Worthless.
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  305. the b.s. Building 7 narrative Which is what?
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  306. No. Eddie doesn't know the facts at all. Just what he's read off conspiracy websites. And then dismisses any counter argument as a "smear campaign". The very definition of cognitive dissonance.
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  307. No they did not. The speech given by Rumsfeld never once referred to money lost or missing.
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  308. So?
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  309.  @joonpak  Again, so? Or so what? What importance does an insignificant building where no one died have to anyone?
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  310.  @joonpak  I don't remember the quote exactly but was he talking about 9/11 itself or specifically WTC7? Because I wouldn't be surprised if very few people know it collapsed. And again I say: so what?
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  311. Yes it did.
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  312. @asad-kc8zf  The evidence has been pretty well documented. You've just never bothered yourself to look for it. And what evidence do you have to state "most surveilled building"?
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  313. @asad-kc8zf  If you're legitimately asking that question then you are no where near ready for me. I've read most of the investigative reports on this subject: FBI's PENTTBOM, 9/11Commission, NTSB, NIST, FDNY and on and on. If you're seriously asking "documented where" then I can safely conclude all you know about this subject came from Loose Change.
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  314. Never before had a building been left to burn unfought for 7 hours.
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  315. It is common knowledge now that it was an inside job Still only with fringe groups on the internet. And every day less and less.
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  316. Why? Did you miss the plane strikes and subsequent fires?
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  317. The real problem is that practically all of the diesel fuel was found to have been pumped out of the tanks during clean up. WTC7 collapsed from normal office fires, which is all that was needed.
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  318. Ok Ivan.
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  319. There's no evidence of a missile and all the evidence is a plane.
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  320. just like our stolen elections That's not a thing.
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  321.  @cfb4208  Was that supposed to be a counterargument? More nonsense? Wake up? Stop listening to drug addicts who peddle crappy pillows.
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  322.  @cfb4208  What's hilariously sad is you actually believe that. When every other GQP recognizes they lost 3 elections in a row, all because of Trump. Hold on to your fantasy as long as you can.
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  323. What doesn't make sense to you?
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  324. diesel does not burn unless it is under extreme pressure Well, I have now heard it all. 'gas doesn't catch fire'. I have to get off YT.
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  325. Jane Standey stated WTC7 collapsed about 20 mins before it did. At that point it had been burning for almost 7 hours.
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  326. Financial group.
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  327. If this were in any way true the "criminals" wouldn't have to perform those crimes.
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  328. How?
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  329. 🤦‍♂ No. Not it wasn't Adolph.
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  330. No. The money was neither missing or lost.
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  331.  @nightnday6675  I think that's what I said. And no bombs were used at the WTCs.
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  332.  @marklewen9384  Oh great. Here I thought there wasn't going to be any proof. I'm so glad someone somewhere on the internet showed up because they heard something from someone who felt something 21 years ago. You are spouting lies and nonsense You may want to rethink who you are directing that at.
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  333.  @marklewen9384  i can go on all day If you mean throw nonsense at the wall for which I have no response to, you're correct. Numerologists see what they want to see and isn't worth addressing. Whenever you wish to discuss the facts of the case, I'm game. We saw how your first attempt went.
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  334.  @marklewen9384  OK this is either Poe's Law or you're too far down a rabbit hole of delusion for rational discussion. Good luck in life.
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  335.  @XxDanny80xX  I got the general gist of your post but you could you try it in more coherent t English next time? And two years on and you're no closer to proving any claims. When you're invoking two comedians for your information you're not even worth my time.
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  336.  @XxDanny80xX  It's all bells and whistles here. I'll try running that jumble of word salad through my moron to English decipher later.
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  337.  @deemiaan  Where?
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  338.  @deemiaan  Was I wrong? That's where the ad hominem border becomes legitimate criticism.
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  339.  @deemiaan  I can respond to any argument about 9/11. Except when it is nonsensical. So again: was I wrong? Because avoiding this question borders you on an ad hominem of your own.
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  340.  @deemiaan  Except when the response was directed specifically at what they wrote. Go read what you yourself quoted and tell me if I'm wrong. I haven't even begun to school you on 9/11 yet. And for the record: I'm not offended by your ad hominem attack.
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  341. 9/11 was controlled demolition No it wasn't. you can plainly see the explosions No you cannot. why did the third bldg go down Because it was left to burn and survived 4 hours past its fire rating. the pentagon with a14 ft hole The ASCE Report documents severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor. made by a missile Over 100 eyewitnesses describe a plane hitting the Pentagon. No one describes a missile. there never was plane debris to be seen anywhere There was literally plane debris everywhere. this was the excuse to bomb IRAQ Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. again and lose again followed by Afghanistaqn 🤦‍♂ Unbelievable. The US invaded Afghanistan first because that was where bin Laden was being protected. And now Merica wants to go to UKRAINE The US has absolutely no intentions of entering Russia's illegal invasion of a sovereign country.
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  342. Only the true skeptic will change his mind when presented with appropriate evidence. Only the cultist will not.
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  343.  @onthelvl8291  How does NDT on Rogan make my comment "bullshit"? Rogan used to be a Moon Hoaxer. Upon discovering new information, or realizing his "evidence" was faulty, he changed his mind. How does NDT change that equation to a falsehood? This should be good.
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  344.  @onthelvl8291  You realize you're out of your mind, right? No. No you actually don't. And that's as far down the rabbit hole of delusion I intend to chase you. Good luck, if you ever make it out of your basement.
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  345.  @onthelvl8291  I present facts "you're talking about DeGrass the RAPIST" Has NDT been convicted of this crime or even brought to trial? "Neil(and bob the rapist) IS a cultist. A high priest cultist that presents nothing but some trippy speculation" 😳 "by that known astrophysicist Bergagina somethin" You presented an unqualified accusation, an ad hominem character assassination and an astrophysicist you can't remember the name of. Yeah. Facts. 🙄 That you don't know the difference is why you are still living in your parent's basement. Get your shots I have them. Ironically, living in your parent's basement, you won't need them. But hey, don't get them. I believe in Darwin.
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  346.  @onthelvl8291  Aw. I hope that gave you the huge woody you were hoping for. Always fun to watch the basement dwellers live out their WoW fantasies. Good luck. I have no need to "deal with you". I'm positive evolution will take care of that. Evolution, in short, means survival of the fittest. You're welcome.
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  347. What melted steel?
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  348. Eddie has no facts. He confuses it with wishful thinking.
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  349. You may have an argument, but it still doesn't make 9/11 an inside job.
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  350. @dotmatrix01  Awesome. Linking yourself in with the tin foil hat crowd. Simply awesome.
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  351. Pelosi wasted millions of dollars trying to impeach trump I'm sure your outraged over Benghazi and The Starr Investigation.
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  352. nothing about 9/11 makes any sense Like what?
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  353.  @rejectscorner9939  19 hijackers took over 4 planes and hit 3/4's of their targets. What doesn't make sense about that?
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  354. No money was "missing".
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  355. so obvious Says every conspiracy theorist devoid of evidence.
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  356. stating that they had lost 2.3 or 2.4 trillion dollars Rumsfeld, in a routine press conference, never once said the money was "lost", missing or stolen. No sign of 257 feet of wing The wing span of a Boeing 757 is 125 ft. And the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report documented severed or damaged columns 90 ft across the first floor.
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  357. the secret service did not wisk him away to a safe place Because they had a secure location in place and feared moving him into an ambush on the route to AF1. They were in contact with the FAA and ATC and moved him once they were sure the route was safe. He did not appear alarmed Should he have been whimpering in place? I do not believe the tower was hit by a plan[e] 🤦‍♂ Oh dear lord! taken down by explosives There's absolutely no evidence of this. Another thing they blamed Saudia Arab of doing it No. No "they" didn't. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis but there was no accusation of complicity toward the Saudi government who cooperated fully in the 9/11 investigation. There are indications that members of the Saudi government provided funds to terrorist organizations that may have made its way to UBL, but there is no evidence of a State sponsored attack. but went after Araq The invasion of Iraq was not attached to the 9/11 attacks. Or are you unaware they invaded Afghanistan first?
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  358. part of the Deep State That's not a thing. he was already signing authorisation papers back in 1963 before the JFK's assassination I don't even know what this means. There are people like him who have been in power forever Wow. Career politicians people keep voting for. Go figure.
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  359. Because, the conspiracy theory goes, "they" mentioned it 9/10/01 because 9/11/01 would have caused the story to be buried for ever and ever and ever. Problem is this auditing problem was something told all through the Clinton administration and continued to be commented on after 9/11. Any thought it just went away comes from people who won't bother themselves to look for it.
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  360. WTF? 😳
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  361. World trade center 7 was a controlled demolition It was not. Probs where the receipts were for that 2.3 trillion dollars were hidden 9/11 claims just keep getting dumber and dumber. Now we're down to the DoD's accounting consists of a bunch of paper receipts in a room.
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  362. If that's like the "Captain's" wheel they gave Dwight on The Office I'm all for it. Put him somewhere he can't do any harm. The US already has a maniac driving the car off a cliff.
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  363. admitted on camera to deciding to “pull” Tower 7 on 9/11 after the fires had started He did not. Even your video doesn't say that.
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  364. Routine audits and better systems are starting to correlate expenditures.
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  365. Yes I do: released after being vetted for 70 days by the FBI. Didn't happen. Possible Mossad front company and no proof or even suggestion they were involved in the attacks. Seems you're the one who doesn't know about them.
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  366. What happened is in world trade center 7 or 11 "Or"? You don't know which one? Or that there was no WTC 11? No need to read the rest when you don't have basic facts.
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  367. 🤦‍♂
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  368. What in the hell are you talking about?
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  369. Because they are.
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  370. No kidding.
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  371. Gorge Floyed put a shotgun to his pregnant girlfriends belly 🤦‍♂️ You can't even get the [false] story right. Floyd broke into a woman's home and held her at gunpoint. There is nothing to suggest she was his girlfriend or pregnant. He went to jail and paid his debt to society. then overdosed on drugs The coroner did not rule a death from OD. It was ruled a homicide due to police restraint. they realized I wasn't the guy they where looking for anyway Did they hold you down there for 8 mins & 46 secs?
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  372.  @johnsprince3924  First off, stop lumping lawful protesters with rioters. They are not the same. Most of the rioting and looting are linked to organized crime exploiting the opportunity or white militia groups trying to incite racial hatred. Under the law, the protesters have every right to organize peacefully and BLM, or even ATIFA for that matter, have little to do with the rioting. Secondly, Floyd was not "high" nor was he exhibiting such behavior. The levels in his blood suggest having taken these drugs, which are even available by prescription, days before his death. He was a peaceful citizen, having had no trouble with the law in 6 years, who only wanted to buy a pack of cigarettes. And got killed for it.
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  373.  @johnsprince3924  John, let's not forget that this started with you spreading false gossip on the internet. Only you know your true motivations but it sounded like you were trying to discredit Floyd as not being worthy of the outrage over his killing. Remember, "we" didn't pick him; "you" did. Secondly, I didn't lay the violence at the feet of militia's. I said it was mostly "organized crime and opportunists"; people seeing the situation and using it as cover to steal merchandise. But it is IS a fact that white supremacists are attempting to create havoc which they can blame on BLM to raise havoc on the movement. Not good-ole-boys trying to save their businesses and apple pie. Organized militias groups causing violence under the cover of the peaceful protesters. Beyond that, I hope you don't expect a discussion based off the personal musings of someone from the internet. Your personal experience, giving you the benefit of the doubt, in no way is a representation of the peaceful protests asking for the end of police killing black people.
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  374. Except that isn't true. No records were lept in WTC7 and the DoD does not keep their 50 year budgets on a few desktops in one office. The Pentagon has about 18 different accounting offices and the audits continued.
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  375. WTCs 1 & 2 collapsed at 2/3's G WTC7 collapsed 40% longer than FFA.
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  376. I literally don't know how anyone could write this. Bravo's only thinking comes from what the last YT video told him.
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  377. It's because of all the information available that he can conclude it wasn't.
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  378. @naturalgreen847  There is not a shred of evidence that 9/11 was anything but what was investigated and reported: 19 hijackers commandeered 4 planes and hit 3 if their targets. They were working as Al Qaeda operatives, under the direction of KSM, and ultimate responsibility lies with leader UBL. And there's even less evidence Israel was involved.
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  379. @naturalgreen847  Why, on this green earth, could you possibly believe that an act before Israel was established could have anything to do with 9/11. Seriously. Square that circle for me. And how can you possibly not know that UBL was long estranged from his family and had absolutely nothing to do with his father's relationship with the Bush family. Can you try to bring me something worth my time?
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  380.  @4Naturalgreen  Honestly, all I was going to do was post this little nugget of your psychosis "deeply rooted in the R-Complex of the human brain. The reptilian brain" and leave it at that. All that is needed is to point out someone is a David Icke follower and you can drop the mic and move on. But I thought I would reach a little further into your chest cavity and show you your beating heart: even if everything you posted was true....(when will you all learn that Operation Paperclip was to bring out the greatest scientists and engineers from Germany before Russia got them? Most of them were part of the Nazi party because they were forced to join it in order to work). Sorry, where was I? Oh right.....even if everything you posted was true, it is absolutely NOT evidence Israel or the US were involved in 9/11! 'Guvmint bad!' is not a substitute for actual evidence of complicity! What was that? What was that sound? Oh, it's the sound of your heart stopping. You're welcome. Thus endeth the lesson.
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  381. Who are "they" and what's your evidence?
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  382. Plasco Tower Tehran
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  383. So what?
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  384.  @Jack-dr2ry  Yes. I fully believe that FEMA planned an emergency response drill. What does that have to do with 9/11?
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  385. @user-ns3ls6di1h  When you can't recognize all you're offering is an argument of incredulity logical fallacy you're really not worth my time. I don't care what you want to believe, it's not evidence of anything. And don't make things worse for yourself by bringing up the "missing" money that was never missing. You'll just get embarrassed on that as well.
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  386. @user-ns3ls6di1h  Do you have any evidence FEMA's presence on 9/11 was in any way associated with the attacks or aided them in any way? Or are you just going to keep wasting my time?
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  387. Do you know he was in the Pentagon when it was hit?
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  388. The ASCE's Pentagon Building Performance Report documented severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor impact area.
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  389.  @jamesbayly4181  yet a perfect 20' diameter hole That is the 2nd floor tail impact. Do you know that "dubya's" contracter cousin worked on the wtc and the pentagon the month prior to 911 Are you speaking about Marvin Bush? Because that is GWB's brother and he was on the board of directors for a company called Securacom who provided security software for the Towers. He left that position in June of 2000.
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  390.  @jamesbayly4181  There is no evidence of CD at the WTCs. And until you can provide a name of this cousin there's nothing to respond to.
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  391. It's pretty clear by now CT code for "I have no evidence to back up my claim".
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  392. What was found was old caches of biological missiles Saddam had for years that he had used on the Kurds. What was not found was the mobile biological units Powell testified about in front of the UN to justify the invasion. Information that was later to be found came from an unreliable defector trying to gain citizenship in Germany. Both the German and British intelligence services warned not to deem this person credible, but in practicing willful ignorance, the Bush Administration ignored these warnings and went forth with the invasion. Only to discover none of these mobile units ever existed. There was no active WMD program in Iraq and no immediate threat to justify invasion. So when you dismiss this as a "left narrative" you only expose your gross ignorance.
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  393. They had tanks of diesel fuel to run back up generators in the building. However he is wrong that these fueled the fires. During clean up virtually all the fuel was pumped out and accounted for. It was normal office contents that weakened the building.
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  394. Western economies are the most successful in the world. Stay out of things you know nothing about.
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  395. Why didn't that turn it to powder Because it was an isolated fire on lower floors that FDNY was able to get to quickly and extinguish. Oh. And the Towers didn't turn to powder on 9/11. 1. So what? 2. The 78th floor was an observation deck with little to burn and was at the lower extent of the wings. Two floors above fires were raging. 3. Stairwells are behind fire protected walls. That people didn't see fires on the floors is not a mystery. We also know that Chief Palmer was somewhere above the 79th He was not. He clearly states he made it to the 78th floor. "Pull it." Which has what to do with the Towers?
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  396. The information was alleged to be in Building 7 It was not. This is simple internet fantasy fodder. which was not impacted by a plane but fell due to “fires” And being hit by hundreds of tons of steel and concrete. the Pentagon was hit by a MISSILE in an area where (Financial) investigators were It was not hit by a missile and the Pentagon had 17 other financial offices that were not touched by the plane impact.
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  397. Except it isn't.
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  398. Is that your price?
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  399. Actually, America is about the last country an operation of this size could be conducted. You need a closed society like North Korea or Syria. 15,000 workers were at The Pile daily. No way that many people go home and don't talk about all the exploded or melted beams. In fact, the shear size of such an operation, if "They" could pull it off "They" wouldn't have to.
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  400. Why are you conflating a made uo "stand down" order with the progressive collapse of the buildings? They literally have nothing to do with one another.
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  401. did building 7 fall symmetrically or asymetrically Asymmetrically into neighboring Verizon Building.
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  402.  @claytonbigsby  No. I just watched the full ones. And didn't stop at the points where it was convenient for my fantasies.
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  403.  @claytonbigsby  Do they? Name them. Especially the demo experts.
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  404. You may have missed this but the buildings survived the plane impacts. For 105 and 55 minutes, respectively.
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  405. This shit had distraction written all over Distraction from what?
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  406. You know that's stupid, right?
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  407. No money was missing.
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  408. No.
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  409.  @JesusRisen8  'Man. What would happen if I mixed 'shrooms with acid?' - you
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  410. I think you're a paid Russian Troll Bot.
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  411. It’s NOT a conspiracy when it’s a FACT 9/11 Truthers don't use facts. YES it WAS an inside job There's no evidence of this.
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  412. @gazerslowed  Says the person commenting on this post. Why can you all never get irony?
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  413.  @gazer99  It was slower than 4 minutes. Take your own advice. There's a whole world outside the basement of your parent's double wide.
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  414.  @gazer99  Awww, if only I had a nickel for every Incel wo told me they have their own place. What's closer to reality is your life exists through your parent's internet bill. Don’t you think all that time could’ve been spent doing something more productive As you sit here responding to someone who (supposedly) means nothing in your life. And counting their internet comments. Irony. Look it up.
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  415. 13:00 Joe, you have to stop repeating this nonsense. There is no evidence that this particular accounting office was working on the "missing" (most was "found" by Feb/02) money nor even if they were they were the only accounting office doing so. The Pentagon does not keep their 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office!
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  416. Actually neither.
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  417. DEMS TOOK THEM DOWN That's stupid.
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  418.  @andrewmacaulay9272  That's even dumber. Please finish the trifecta.
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  419.  @andrewmacaulay9272  I have. And you really mean "google", don't you? Congratulations. You nailed the trifecta.
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  420. No gold went missing. And insurance was about $5 billion short of rebuilding the WTCs.
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  421. a new forever war in Ukraine Blame Putin. the Biden Crime Family are known to launder their dirty cash through that corrupt country Ooooohh. Someone gets their "news" from the NRA Channel. Border patrol makes about 100,000 arrests per month along the border. Doesn't sound unprotected to me. Answer me this: why does your "billionaire" boy need you to pay his legal bills?
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  422. No it wasn't.
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  423. 9/11 was definitely done on purpose No kidding. It wasn't an accident.
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  424. All evidence says it did.
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  425. Rumsfeld never once states the money is missing, lost or stolen.
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  426. What?
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  427. @LoveCaveDiving  🤣🤣🤣🤣 Grenfell was a concrete building with most of the fire on the outside cladding. In other words, nothing WTC7. Want another shot champ?
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  428.  @LoveCaveDiving  I didn't say that. I said most of the fire was outside. There was some, but not enough to compromise the integrity. I guess you missed the part where I stated Grenfell was a concrete design; nothing like the steel framed WTC7. Give me examples of other high rise buildings that caught fire and collapsed in its footprint Plasco Building Tehran. Steel framed high rise building that collapsed from fire.
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  429. There were multiple convictions in the Enron case.
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  430. What?
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  431. the official 911 commission report didnt even mention WTC 7 So? Make that make sense Fire destroyed a building? That doesn't make sense to you?
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  432. The killer on trial for Floyd's murder sure does.
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  433. double what they were worth The contracts for WTCs 1 & 2 alone were $3.2 billion. Building 1,2 an 7 only ones destroyed Oh my goodness stop you're in over your head. The entire WTC complex was destroyed along with multiple buildings in the surrounding area. building 7 it had a bunker that could withstand nuclear war A few offices on one floor. Not the entire building. No steal building has ever fell from fire in history Search Plasco Building: Tehran. There's alot more but to much to write So let's hear it.
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  434. Reading the comments from people agreeing with flat earth I honestly don't know if you're being serious or if it's Poe's Law. And that's disturbing.
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  435. It's been talked about for years.
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  436. Only one wing of the Pentagon collapsed. Most of the building was untouched. And there were about 18 accounting offices within the whole building. Most of them were fully operational after the attack.
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  437.  @tracemiller1519  Then why were you talking about "the accounting part"?
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  438. @tracemiller1519  I read the comment and subsequent comments and I can conclude I don't know what the hell you're talking about. What accounting part in what building are you referring to?
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  439.  @tracemiller1519  Ok let me walk you through this because I can now conclude you don't know what you're talking about. Rogan's comments were about a speech given by Rumsfeld about unaccounted for money in Defense spending. $2.3 Trillion. That this money was never "missing" is another discussion, but he goes on to talk about the plane that hit the accounting department searching for this money. This accounting department was in the Pentagon. The plane that hit it was AA77. This is not the Twin Towers as you claim. So maybe it's actually you who needs to go back and watch the video since clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Regardless if the comment was meant for me or not.
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  440. "I'll be the first to admit that our film definitely contains errors. It still does contain some dubious claims, and definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts .....I'm just saying that Loose Change is really not a fair representation of the 9/11 Truth movement." -Loose Change director Dylan Avery YT - Loose Change Debate 9/11 Program 1 Part 1 6:55
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  441. No money was lost.
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  442. Why? Because he doesn't believe stupid?
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  443. And that seems to the argument from the alt-right: 'or maybe' and it's ok to kill a black man by kneeling on his neck for 8 mins & 46 secs.
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  444.  @them-aasaaron6440  Does the "entire footage" still end with a cop kneeling on his neck for 8 mins & 46 secs with Floyd handcuffed and on his stomach until he died? And does the coroners report still say Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest due to police restraint? Meaning he didn't die from a drug overdose. He didn't die from a heart attack. And he didn't die from Covid 19? I don't do "minor" research. I look at it all.
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  445.  @them-aasaaron6440  You have not read the coroner's report if you think that. It literally says "CARDIOPULMONARY ARREST COMPLICATING LAW ENFORCEMENT SUBDUAL, RESTRAINT, AND NECK COMPRESSION" and ruled a homicide. The definition of "homicide" is death by another. Floyd died from a Chauvin kneeling on his neck. That is what the Medical conclusion states. Not the racist interpretation from the right.
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  446.  @them-aasaaron6440  If not from the alt-right, then explain to me why you continue to push a false narrative. Why is it when I quote you what the actual autopsy says, you continue to promote a meth overdose? And we can discuss societal tragedies anytime you like. While different from systemic racism, their roots are the same.
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  447. Still waiting for you to prove Rumsfeld said this.
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  448. No, the problem is conspiracy theorists don't understand what evidence actually is. Because anyone who actually looks at the evidence would know that Rumsfeld never once states or implies the money was missing, lost or stolen.
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  449. @JPOW6969  Because if you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know I'm right.
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  450. There’s NO WAY those towers and Trade Center building #7 collapsed inside their own footprint You're right. Because it didn't happen. People are idiots to believe the government’s official story 'Gubmint bad!' is not an argument.
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  451. There is zero evidence WTC7 collapsed from anything but fire/heat and gravity.
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  452. No.
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  453. Shanksville coroner Wally Miller spent 2 weeks on his hands and knees scouring debris and collecting body parts. He personally identified 12 victims. And April Gallop took a settlement from American Airlines because one of their planes impacted the Pentagon where she worked.
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  454.  @jamesbayly4181  I understood your claim and I'm telling you it is how it is misleading. You're correct there were no bodies because the impact smashed them into little pieces. If I remember Wally Miller's statement, the largest piece he found was a spine about the size of his fist. And there are two problems with Ms Gallop's claim: first, as I listed, is that she took a payout from AA because a plane hit her building. The second problem is that people escaping the Pentagon remember her exiting a rear door with them, not the impact hole. Which, BTW, was studied by the ASCE in their Pentagon Building Performance Report and showed severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor of the Pentagon, matching up with the 125' wing span of AA77.
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  455.  @jamesbayly4181  So you're accepting your witness is a liar for money?
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  456.  @jamesbayly4181  95% of UA93 was recovered. Some as much as 30' underground. The recovered FDR shows the plane in almost a straight dive at max power. And I have no intention of giving my profession but if you're asking if I have an education or background in engineering, police or investigative work, no I do not.
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  457. That conference that Rumsfeld had was real. That’s not a conspiracy theory Yes it is because it wasn't a conference but a speech he gave about a routine audit.
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  458. Search Plasco Building Tehran.
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  459. No.
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  460. Normal office fires reach temperatures of 1000C. Steel loses half its strength at 600c. And can fail under load at 250C. What was your point?
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  461. 1. Who are these "engineers"? 2. PNAC? That was actually a think tank, not a government agency. And it was about keeping American military at the forefront of technology. 3. NORAD said no such thing. Two jets were scrambled just as AA11 hit WTC1. Two more were held so as not to have all four run out of gas at the same time but were scrambled when UA175 hit WTC2. These were the only 4 planes on the Eastern Seaboard on scramble orders. AA11 was the only plane where NORAD was notified of the hijacking before it crashed. 4. The passport in NYC passed through the building with plane debris and was found on the street before either Tower collapsed. Another passport was found in Shanksville along with other light material thrown in the air from the crash.
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  462. Why would you?
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  463. Or, you know, he looked and found you guys were crazy.
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  464. 911myths.com
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  465. He was not.
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  466. Watch Loose Change "I'll be the first to admit that our film definitely contains errors. It still does contain some dubious claims, and definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts .....I'm just saying that Loose Change is really not a fair representation of the 9/11 Truth movement." -Loose Change director Dylan Avery YT - Loose Change Debate 9/11 Program 1 Part 1 6:55" It wasn't an inside job.
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  467. Americans are so dumb that they believed the government story of 9/11 What's the "government story" as opposed to the facts of the case? Of which, you have none to support your claims.
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  468. what do you all think was inside the trade buildings What do you think?
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  469. I do know that the 'official' version of 9/11 is an absolute pile of bullshit Why?
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  470. his own words were "they pulled it" That is literally not his words.
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  471. @asad-kc8zf  Cripes. No he didn't say that. And the building didn't collapse during Jane Stanley's broadcast. Do you know anything about this subject?
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  472. @asad-kc8zf  No it didn't. In fact, BBC lost their satellite feed just before the collapse. You're probably thinking of NBC. It collapsed while their reporter was speaking with woman holding a child. You're not going to know more about this subject than me. Might as well thow in the towel now.
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  473. And....?
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  474. How does a 2D flat math equation relate to a 3D spherical model?
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  475. Why? There is absolutely no evidence UA93 was shot down. If your belief it was hinges on a possible slip by Rumsfeld then you simply wanted to believe it anyway.
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  476. Well, if it's the same thing that happened on July 16/01.... and July 11/01 and June 28/01 and June 3/01 and February 12/01 and January 11/01 and January 7/01 and March 3/00 You'd understand September 10/01 had absolutely nothing to do with September 11/01.
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  477.  @RoloHolland  wrong. It had to do everthing with 9-11 Except the same announcement by Rumsfeld occurred on all the other dates I posted. You cannot make a connection to 9/11 other than through wishful thinking. do you know what happend Apparently a lot more than you. It would have been the biggest story of the year untill those planes hit the buildings Except it wasn't in all the other dates I gave you when the exact same announcement of "missing" money was announced.
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  478. His payout was less than half what it required to rebuild the WTC complex. Dumbest insurance scam ever.
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  479. What the hell are you talking about?
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  480. OF COURSE they knew about the entire demolition of the Twin Towers, including Building 7 There's no evidence of this. which wasn't even touched by any of the airplane What was it hit by? Do you know? it collapsed to the ground at free-fall speed First off, there is no Free Fall "speed". It is Free Fall Acceleration. Secondly, WTC7 fully collapsed 40% longer than Free Fall Acceleration. NO OTHER STEEL BUILDING IN WORLD HISTORY HAS EVEN FALLEN FROM FIRE Kader Toy Factory McCormick Center Plasco Building Steel framed upper floors of Windsor Tower. just as the planned death of 2,000 innocent men and woman on 9/11 It was almost 3000. 2997 Think about all the lucrative weapons contracts US corporations Correlation does not equal causation.
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  481. What lies?
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  482. There wasn't "terror insurance" at the time.
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  483. @coryryder9070  At the time, there was no such thing as "terrorism" insurance. It was considered such low risk, it was simply part of standard coverage. Silverstein Properties took out insurance on the WTCs 6 weeks before the attacks which is when they won the lease contracts. They were, btw, the second leading bid and were awarded the Towers when the winners from Texas pulled out last minute. They attempted to get the least amount of coverage to save on payments. Their investors wanted maximum coverage. They settled on a middle of the road policy. Anything else you need to know?
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  484. Why not just throw in the milk you spilled this morning since you're just spewing nonsense.
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  485. The ASCE Pentagon Building performance Report documented severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor.
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  486. More like Trump 20-to-life.
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  487. It's 100% not.
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  488. Why wouldn't he or anyone else?
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  489.  @richpositive  You never looked.
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  490. So what?
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  491. The twin towers were destroyed because of the cost of the upgrades needed (asbestos) The asbestos was estimated to cost about $200 million to remove; a fraction of their $3.2 Billion price tag. And was a known liability when 30 other developers bid on the contracts. so Larry Silverstein instead of paying out, gets paid $3 Billion in insurance Silverstein Properties was awarded $4.7 billion in insurance payments, but the WTC complex is estimated to cost $10 billion to rebuild. Along with the $120 million/yr they had to pay to the NYPA for buildings he couldn't rent, the company lost money because of the attacks. the documents in WTC7 🤦‍♂ I can't even. there were no real airliners Oh. Never mind. Didn't know you were that delusional.
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  492. $2.3 trillion missing admitted to the day before 9/11 No it wasn't. Rumsfeld never once used the words "missing", "lost" or "stolen".
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  493. Nevermind that rummy boy was the only person that could authorize any shoot down of airplanes Bush was the only person with the authority to order a shoot down of civilian aircraft. He gave this around 9:45am that day. how he could not be reached for the order Rumsfeld was never out of communication. All while 6 or 7 military exercises continued while this was going on Which has what to do with the military assets to respond? You don't know, do you? rummy boy is out on the lawn "helping" them look at parts He was helping wounded on stretchers. that obviously were not from a commercial aircraft Like what? First off, what parts on the lawn weren't from AA77? Because that is what you said. while the US continued all the fake blips on radar and all the real fighter jets flying There were none on NEADS radars in upper NY State and defintely not on fighter jets. Some were used for NORAD's war games in Cheyenne Mtn but had no effect on NEADS response.
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  494. John Stamos is still alive. You mixed up your crazy 'Look who died' delusion.
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  495. Because it wasn't.
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  496. Um, there was nothing "spontaneous" about a building collapsing after burning for 7 hours and suffering an internal collapse 16 seconds before the final global release. And collapsing into neighboring Verizon building is not a "symmetrical" collapse.
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  497. Just a whole bunch of logical fallacies in that one post.
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  498. deep state That's not a thing.
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  499. It was not.
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  500.  @shanecassity3485  let me guess you trust the government No, I'm just not so simple minded in my thinking that I believe 'Government Bad!' is a valid argument. Nor so simple to think that the evidence for 9/11 exists in a press release from Dick Cheney. you took their potion bullshit vax as well There has been more lives saved through the use of vaccines than any other medical achievement. There is a high chance your very existence is because of the vaccines you've been given. They count on the gullibility of the masses So does the internet. Well done feeding it.
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  501. @shanecassity3485  To partipate in the public school system one must have their full compliment of up to date vaccines. Unless you're home schooled. Which would explain a lot. And if you never leave your trailer you didn't really have to worry about Covid, did you?
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  502. There was more burning than jet fuel. And no report claims support columns collapsed due to heat induced failure. Jet fuel or otherwise.
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  503.  @davidboles3784  Doubtful.
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  504. I knew something was fishy Why? jet fuel can't turn a skyscraper into dust No one claims that and it didn't. military thermite was used What makes it "military"? no plane hit that field and no plane hit the Pentagon Yes they did. All available evidence proves it.
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  505. The pentagon is one of the most secure buildings in the US So were the WTCs. They literally had their own police force for security. we’ve only seen one crappy video of a “plane” hitting the pentagon How many videos of the planes hitting the WTCs came from the WTCs? But yet the video doesn’t look like a plane but more like a missile Conspiracy theorists see what they want to see.
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  506. Silverstein got 4.5billion off the insurance scam It cost over $10 billion to rebuild the WTCs. Worst. Insurance. Scam. Ever. He was even considered to be the head of the investigations committee which is absolutely insane What's insane is you actually believing that. He is deeply connected to Israel; I say that with no position on the current events going on And yet some reason you felt the need to point it out, whether true or not. The head of security was owned by individuals tied to Isreal hence the group that was allowed into the towers posing as an 'art group' They were Austrian. whose pictures you can find online Very handy of the Mossad to document their supersecretundercoverhushaboom scheme for all to find. 🙄 marked with labels that when checked tie directly to fuses sold by a company that when followed to the top tie to... you guessed it... Israel So what? Fuses are simple electrical breakers. You know that right? Unless, of course, they weren't fuses and the BB-18 indicated the box size. Or how about the folks folks from Israel arrested that day for celebrating the attack Held for 70 days, vetted, investigated and released when no evidence turned up tying them to the attacks. Then there's the 2 Isreal based workers in the towers that were using the.. I wana say it was called the "odigo" messaging system They weren't in the Towers they were in Tel Aviv. And Odigo had left the WTCs 2 months prior. were sent a message Do you know what the message said? Then there's the tower 7 stunt Which is what? Or the fire fighters who heard 'boom, boom, boom, boom' as the towers began to come down What do you think floor after floor impacting sounds like? Or the 'legitimate passport' of one of the fkn pilots conveniently found in the street barely charred around the edges Why should it be charred if it was in the cockpit, 100' ahead of the wings with the fuel, traveling about 700'/sec? Im not antisemitic by no measure Whenever someone starts a sentence with 'I'm not a racist...' you know some good old fashion racism is a-comin'!
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  507. What was Israel's role and what did they hold back?
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  508. @stevensica5918  So your position is based on....what exactly?
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  509. Bush didn't. Neither did UBL since they weren't blown.
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  510. The DoD does not keep its 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office. That should be obvious.
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  511.  @olivermurray4822  the rest where in wtc 1.2.7 Evidence? Never mind. We both know you're not going to be able to provide that. It's literally been pulled out of your a$$.
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  512. thermite explosive That's not a thing. In fact, it's an oxymoron.
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  513. How about them finding Mohammed attas passport It was Satam al-Suqami's. on the street during the cleanup after the towers collapsed It was found by a civilian and given to an NYPD Detective before either Tower collapsed. and we're supposed to believe his passport survived Why wouldn't it? Fire was probably no where near it before it exited the building.
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  514. Because it wasn't.
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  515.  @sayedhasan4459  Why do CTers always think that's such a mic drop sentence? Yes a healthy skepticism of the government is a good thing. But not to the point of stupidity.
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  516.  @sayedhasan4459  when you ignore common sense Ah! The appeal to common sense logical fallacy! Dude. That's how I think it happened so it must be true! When you can offer some evidence of CD I'm listening. Tower 7 wasnt even hit It wasn't!? I mean, you really don't know what it is was hit by? Really? fell exactly like the twin towers WTC7 collapsed from the top down? Really? You know next to nothing about this subject, don't you? and was not covered in the media properly Ah! The qualifier for the conspiracy theorist. The media didn't spend as much time on this as I think they should have so......conspiracy! Sometimes it's just funny to watch what you clowns actually think counts as facts and evidence.
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  517. Correlation does not imply causation.
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  518. No it didn't,
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  519. There weren't that anyone knows of.
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  520. Closer to 0% No. It's 0.
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  521. The 2.3 trillion is just the first one Why? Theres the missing gold and silver None of it was missing. There was what seemed to be an attempted robbery but guards were then placed on it until it could be recovered. that witnesses said they saw it in the beds of dump trucks after the planes hit You've got to be kidding me. You cannot possibly believe that trucks rushed into the basement of WTC4 and started loading tons of gold and silver into dump trucks while WTC2 was an hour from collapsing on them. I doubt dump trucks would even fit in underground loading docks. Cripes that's a new one for me.
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  522. The "Let's Roll" was proven to be a lie It was not. You're lying.
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  523.  @barryjameson3113  Do you even believe for a second a plane went into the ground n not a wheel, a Dixie cup, a seat, any of the fuselage were left anywhere No. Because that didn't happen. 95% of UA93 was excavated from as much as 30' underground. Hundreds of local workers helped recover pieces and parts strewn around the area. Local coroner Wally Miller spent 2 weeks on his hands and knees gathering body parts. He personally identified 12 passengers. They are really, really ignorant as a whole I'll give you the opportunity to take that back if you wish. You know; since now we know you don't a clue what you're talking about.
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  524. Ok Ivan.
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  525.  @troyholland70  Wow. You'll pardon me if I'm a little shocked by the impotence of that response.
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  526. @Troy Holland  I'm not shocked I have no respect for you either.
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  527. @Troy Holland  Seven hours to come up with a response to cover you wrote "impudent" when you meant to write "impotent". Well done! 👏👏👏
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  528. @Troy Holland  Tell yourself what you need to Ivan. But have to say: kind of pathetic I was the last thing on your mind when you went to bed and the first thing when you woke up.
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  529.  @troyholland70  "Ignorant communist" Me thinks he doth protest too much
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  530.  @troyholland70  I'm a veteran that loves my country Oh. Did you fight in the Afghan war? In the 80's? Putin has every right to defend his border's By driving tanks over the border of a free and sovereign country? You have an odd view of what is and isn't Marxist there comrade. would never have the guts to say anything to my face Why? Is your breath bad? That's about the only thing that keeps me from getting too close to someone. Typical leftard fascist Ok Ivan. Says the person who supports war crimes.
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  531. Copying and pasting the factual information from the investigation is somehow wrong? Ok 🙄
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  532.  @EnergyTRE  Because WTC7 was one of 20 other buildings that were either destroyed or severely damaged due to the Towers collapsing. It was not a target and nothing more than collateral damage.
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  533. The owner of the building is literally on tape admitting he blew the building up He is not. we had I told them to “pull it” He did not. Larry silver Silverstein. Weeks after he takes out billions in insurance for terror attacks This is stupid on several levels. Not only was there no "terrorist" insurance at the time, they don't let you take out insurance on a building after it's been destroyed.
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  534. so does the deep state That's not a thing.
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  535. If ever I've heard the "logic" of a conspiracy theorist, this post is it.
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  536. But it was a plane.
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  537. 🤣
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  538. It was not.
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  539.  @kevinjames3155  I don't think you are. There is absolutely no evidence 9/11 was an inside job. Everything claimed to be does not withstand minimal scrutiny.
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  540. No. Everyone doesn't know that. Only a few people on the fringes of the internet think this. Because all available evidence points to a plane hitting the Pentagon.
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  541. No.
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  542.  @mojokurk1637  When you're offering nothing but wild speculation, never a good look to double-down with false information. Because you seem unware that four armed fighter jets were launched on 9/11. Not one plane on active scramble orders were diverted for other purposes. And the passport of Al-Saqqami was found on the street before either building collapsed. And if you think any firefighter who responded to the WTCs that morning support any of these ridiculous conspiracy theories, I suggest you take this to the nearest firehouse and ask them why they're covering up the murder of 343 fellow firefighters. Up your medical coverage beforehand. Lastly, what the hell is a "fifty-degree wind"?
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  543. No they weren't. And four jets were scrambled that morning, all that was available to NEADS on the east coast.
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  544. Someone left the word randomizer on again!
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  545. "We" got Russia to illegally invade the country?
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  546. Why you think Trump keeps getting in trouble for Because he's a criminal who has defrauded everything he has ever touched. There simply is no hope for people who cannot see it by now. The only reason you still pledge allegiance to Trump is because Scientology didn't get you first.
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  547. 1800 victims were identified at the WTCs. And the passport was very possibly never near the fires ignited by the tanks. Well there ya go, case closed Argument of incredulity logical fallacy. Do you know why he was buried at sea?
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  548. "....that believes what happened happened" Cripes the comments get dumber each year.
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  549. I'm going to make a wild guess that Bollyn concluded it was Da Joos.
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  550.  @larrysintay4456  Yes. When there's absolutely no evidence of Israeli involvement, it's completely unbelievable. And especially when Bollyn blames Jews for everything up to and including the milk he spilled on the floor.
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  551. @larrysintay4456  No. I avoid bigot's literature. Haven't read The Turner Diaries or Mein Kamph either. Give me your best "Jews Did It" Smoke. Can I guess? Dancing Israelis? Odigo message? Urban Movers?
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  552.  @larrysintay4456  You do realize there is plenty of Bollyn's literature and thoughts that are not in a book, right? When you're too extreme for The American Free Press you're not exactly offering legitimacy.
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  553. Because none of the money was "missing".
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  554. They have one conversation about $2.1 Trillion unaccounted for and that is "all the evidence"? You have a very low standard to believe a fantasy.
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  555. No money disappeared.
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  556.  @Maker004  Was that a rebuttal? Doubtful since you don't know what you're talking about.
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  557. Why are you comparing the two? No explosives were detonated near WTC7.
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  558. Because the FDNY had been predicting the collapse of WTC7 since about noon that day. Not a huge leap, given she states "Details are very very sketchy", that someone mistook "is going to collapse" for "has collapsed" in a fluid story.
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  559.  @will2see  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImQ6a-VrnA
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  560.  @will2see  "It's definitely coming down"
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  561.  @will2see  it is still quite hard to hear him saying that I hear it. do you have others "Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did" -Captain Varriale "The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt." -Chief Nigro "...we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors." -Deputy Chief Hayden And btw, 0:18 - 0:27 they are showing another building of the WTC complex At 0:16 he says "see the white smoke coming out?" They are showing WTC7.
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  562.  @will2see  "As noted above, when Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary he stated, “I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull it.” [Spokesperson] Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building." -Statement from Larry Silverstein 2005
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  563.  @will2see  is all part of one big operation Which it of course was. What you've provided no evidence of is that it was an "Inside Job".
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  564.  @will2see  Come on! This is numerology. Taking past events and fitting them to a narrative. I'm not discussing a rabbit hole of leaps of imagination. I'm happy to stick to the facts of 9/11. If that's of no interest to you, good day.
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  565. What did hit WTC7? Do you know?
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  566. The $2.3 trillion was from mis-accounting dating back over the DoD's 50 year budgetary history. I think someone would have noticed when no tanks and bullets showed up in Viet Nam and subsequent wars.
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  567. Give me a B. Give an S. What do you got? BS!
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  568.  @Tim21189  if you ignore the overwhelming evidence Such as? Don’t talk about Building 7 I'll talk about that as much as you want. How about we start with you explaining the collapse mechanism concluded by NIST and what you find incorrect about it.
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  569. 😂😂😂
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  570. Yeah. Nothing more than 'It's obvious, Bro'!".
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  571. Most of the world.
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  572.  @will2see  When did you poll the world?
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  573.  @will2see  So you just made that up.
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  574.  @will2see  I understand them completely. They're words you're using to convey something as fact that you're making up completely. What dont you understand about them?
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  575.  @will2see  No you actually tell me: what did you base this "expect/guess" on?
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  576. by the Deep State That's not a thing.
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  577. There was no missile. And the plane hit a accounting room.
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  578. @OH MY DAMN!!  It did not. And the DoD does not keep its 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office. That at least should be obvious.
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  579. No he didn't. And it was a PBS 1st year anniversary show. Try again.
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  580. No it's a Conspiracy theory because the money was never missing.
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  581. WTC7 had tanks of diesel fuel to run back up generators. The problem is Joe is wrong: NIST discovered that virtually all of the diesel had been pumped out of the tanks during the clean up so none of it contributed to the fires. This was purely an office contents-fueled fire that lead to collapse, which is all that was needed.
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  582. At what point did your ego convince you that you knew more than experts who study subjects their whole lives?
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  583. came down on there own then No one claims this. Most people saw a plane impact and massive fires.
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  584. Or maybe you're just paranoid.
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  585. "I would figure this to be about 2 hours post demolition collapse"
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  586.  @matthewotremba9230  Which building collapsed fully at Free Fall.
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  587.  @matthewotremba9230  Wtcs 1 & 2 collapsed at 2/3s G Wtc7 collapsed 40% longer than FFA. How are you unaware of this?
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  588.  @matthewotremba9230  One conspiracy theory isn't evidence of another conspiracy theory. If you are unaware of the facts I just presented, I doubt you've looked into this subject beyond the first whack-a-doodle website you googled. Now, seeing as how there's nothing here for me, there's nothing here for me.
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  589. First off, millions of migrant farm workers have been entering the US for decades. It's why your apple doesn't cost $25/pc. Secondly, all the hijackers entered the US legally. Today's highest terrorist threat in the US is not illegally entering Muslims but home grown citizens ie angry white male incel. Is that sounding a little familair?
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  590. Eddie Bravo: "I'm getting all my shit from You Tube!" So appealing to the academic integrity of a streaming service. 🤦‍♂️
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  591. Name me one who does.
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  592.  matty kelly  👏👏👏👏👏 Couldn't have said better myself!
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  593. have you watched Loose change Which one? Because it was so awful and full of distortions that they had to edit 3 times.
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  594. Yes it did.
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  595. What evidence is there of an inside job.
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  596. Socialist countries often rank among the happiest countries to live in: Finland Sweden Denmark Canada "Free" and "Capitalist" USA just barely made top 20 (19).
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  597. Twenty minutes. And so what?
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  598. just pure coincidence they've classified all the pertinent 9/11 evidence Like what? knowing politicians are not the psychopathic criminals we all suspect they are Is that truly what you believe?
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  599. What do you find wrong with it?
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  600.  @mr.nihilz3283  And yet you seem unable to.
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  601. @mr. nihilz  And in the age of Dunning Kruger, ignorance runs rampant. So let the record show, you were asked twice. Twice you balked. Ignorance thrives when one is unwilling to have his beliefs challenged.
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  602. @mr. nihilz  No idea what that was even supposed to mean. Enjoy the shallow end.
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  603. @mr. nihilz  Are you still here? I thought, considering you had nothing to offer, you would have tucked your tail in your vagina and slithered away. Or you could, you know, grow a pair and step up to the plate and answer the question: what's wrong with the "official 9/11 narrative". Don't worry too much. Not expecting an answer.
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  604.  @mr.nihilz3283  Aww you're still here Says the person still here. CTers never get irony. You could have done you're own research by now You really mean "googled" don't you? Because there's a difference between researching a subject and googling the first website that tells you what you want to hear. just an ignorant antagonist And yet I asked a very reasonable and civil question. You're the one who folded like a target in a carnival game. How has Scientology not snatched you up yet?
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  605.  @mr.nihilz3283  I never delete comments. There is a thing I don't want out there when it comes to conspiracy theorists. They are normally self-debunking so I just fill in the blanks. And when you sound like the crazies don't get indignant when you're painted with the same brush. So yes, I'd very much like to hear your views on flat earth, moon landing and who killed Lady Di. But hey! Let's not kid ourselves. You're going to run from those just like you rant from 9/11. Cripes, one simple question and abandoned your beliefs. Sad.
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  606. And it continues..... Trump was impeached twice: once for abuse of power. The 2nd for attempting to overthrow the government. Nice try Ivan.
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  607. Defended how?
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  608. evaporated It didn't. found an engine to a plane that was not part of the plane reported to hit the pentagon It was a Rolls Royce RB211. The type used in Boeing 757's. how tower 7 fell when not hit by a plane It was hit by hundreds of tons of steel and concrete from the collapse of WTC1.
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  609. There was asbestos in only one building (WTC1) and only up to the 40th floor. Insurance was taken out 6 weeks prior to the attacks when Silverstein won the contracts for the leases.
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  610. THE DUMP TRUCK COMPANY THAT REMOVED ALL THE EVIDENCE WAS "CONTROLLED DEMOLITION INC." CDI is a demolition company. They had vast experience in clearing destructive scenes. They were one of several demolition companies employed.
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  611. Were any parts of the "jet" that hit the Pentagon recovered Yes.
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  612. Nah
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  613. It simply means money that was spent, but because of inadequate accounting systems, it cannot be tracked. It's like this: I own a farm and go out and buy a tractor. It's delivered to my yard and I pay cash for it, but I forget to give my accountant the receipt for 2 months. At the end of the month he notices $500,000 missing from my bank account and nothing to offset this expenditure. Now, did the money go out the back door into someone's pocket? No. It's sitting in the form of a tractor in my yard. As soon as I give the receipt to my accountant everything balances. Now do that for a thousand tanks over decades and you'll know what Rumsfeld was talking about.
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  614. None went down by the government. Except for several buildings after the attacks during clean up.
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  615. Unaccounted for transactions went back more than 20 years.
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  616. No.
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  617. Why?
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  618. The passport found What about it? Bush at the School as Teacher and children recite the story "Kite, Kit, Steal, Playing, Must"
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  619. 2.3 Trillion missing after 8 years of Clinton in office Actually dating back 50 years. And no one said the money was "missing". Nice try MAGA head. point fingers at Bush He was responsible for anything because the unaccounted for funds was something known for years.
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  620. Leslie Robertson Engineer-of-Record for WTC Towers.
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  621. Makes you go. Hummmmmmmm Yes. I had that reaction to someone who doesn't know what Rumsfeld actually said and applied that to a completely made up cost.
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  622. and were found among all the rubble The one passport was found on the street before either Tower collapsed.
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  623. how did Diesel fuel get in the basement It was there to run back up generators in the building. But it's irrelevant since they found all the diesel fuel during clean up. Fires were started in WTC7 when debris from WTC1 collapsed into it and then it collapsed from normal office fires. no building in history has collapsed from fire till 9/11 Kader Toy Factory McCormick Center in Chicago Plasco Building in Tehran
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  624. Yeah. I'm sure he said that. 🙄
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  625. @jacksizzle8937  Absolutely. The POTUS outed his family as criminals. If in any way true you would have come back with the actual quote. Tell me something: what color is the sky in your world? Because it ain't blue.
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  626. Cops keep me separated from deplorables as yourself.
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  627. No money was missing or stolen.
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  628. more like a missile than a jet You're seeing what you want to see. exceeded speed limits at elevation Vmo for Boeing 757/767 is .83 mach or 636 mph. No plane exceeded 600 mph.
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  629. Or.... Because there's absolutely no evidence supporting anything claimed by 9/11 Truthers.
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  630. All the others are just a "smear campaign" against Gage. Eddie's crazy.
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  631. Imagine how much money 💰 Joe Biden and son Hunter got to sell out America I can imagine a lot of things. Doesn't make it true. Money trading hands in the Ukraine What money? Let's just give the Chinese anything they want No one's been tougher on China than Biden. Trump's tariffs only cost American's money, their jobs, their farms and in some cases their lives. I got the money for the Big Guy How do you know this is true? If you Voted for Biden YOU are a Trader "Trader"? You mean like in stocks? And bonds? Or 1800's animal pelts.
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  632. You know Republicans were in charge during 9/11, right?
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  633. it was a cruise missile Over 100 witnesses described a plane hitting the Pentagon. No one described a missile. where dropped like a demolition You mean in the direction of gravity?
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  634. Over 100 witnesses saw a plane hit the Pentagon. The ASCE's Pentagon Building Performance Report documents columns severed or damaged 90' along the first floor.
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  635. @Paulie’s Walnutz How many people TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME say they saw a UFO? Was that really your best rebuttal? That thousands of Manhattanites who witnessed a plane strike TOGETHER simply imagined it because.....UFO?
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  636. @Paulie’s Walnutz Ok my mistake. But the principal still holds. More than 100 people saw the plane at the Pentagon at the same time. Did they have a mass delusion together?
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  637. I think everyone agrees 9/11 was a planned event. Concocted by Khalid Sheik Muhammed around 1996.
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  638. No money was "missing". I think you're late for a Klan meeting.
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  639. @Sly Tora how else are you going to research in the modern day Try reading a fucking book. Maybe you'll learn the difference between "researched" and "googled".
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  640. @Sly Tora As I expected, you don't know the difference between simple How-To instructionals and complex research subjects. Cross referencing sources, looking for contradictory information and correlating all this to find the most likely narrative. Not having it spoon fed to you in a fucking biased video! I truly expected no better from you. You seem like the guy from Good will hunting at the bar scene Except in that bar scene, the character Clark did no research of his own and had no opinion of his own but simply regurgitated what the professor told him year to year. It took the guy who actually read the books to point this out to him. Well done genius. You just proved my point for me.
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  641. @Sly Tora And the best you have as a response is "I know you are but what am I?". I'll leave you here until you pass puberty before I get the "I'm rubber, you're glue...." mic drop.
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  642. @Sly Tora You can type out ass here. You won't get your mouth washed out with soap. Bring me the next one. This child has nothing for me.
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  643. @Sly Tora No, not everyone. Just know-nothing morons such as yourself. Prepubescents who think "researched" is synonymous with "googled". Oh. And I know how to spell douchebag, Klaus. Try typing in English.
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  644. @Sly Tora Oh. Antifa. That was your reference. I was thinking you were one of the undeveloped Trump voters thinking covid 19 was a hoax. I wouldnt say you're that developed but at least you aren't as stupid as I was thinking. So....Score!
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  645. @Sly Tora I recognize the words as English. Do you want to try arranging them in a coherent form so they're readable and make a point?
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  646. @Sly Tora with no visuals Says the YouTube "researcher". Children simply don't get irony. Is yoga helping you with all the mental gymnastics you're attempting to justify your original idiotic post?
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  647. @Sly Tora Why dont you go to a library I find it absolutely astounding that you think that's an insult. Other than the degree you got at Trump university, name an institution that allows you to appeal to the academic integrity of YouTube? Just try to be a free thinker You mean by watching a biased YT video to tell me what I want to hear?
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  648. @Sly Tora It's time to start thinking about retreating to your safe space, sunshine. Where mommy and daddy can hold you and protect you from all the big bad people out there. Why, then you'll never have to find out that not everyone in the world finds you as wonderful as they do. Clearly the real world is too much for you if you're getting this upset over a few comments. Maybe you could find a YT video that will make you all better! I didn't even know Trump had a university Yes, I clearly overestimated your education level. My bad.
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  649. @Sly Tora Your intellect only holds bar with simpletons and maybe sheeps Then that must explain why you keep coming back. Knowing the audience I'm playing to, I feel no pressure to increase the intellect factor lest it go too far above your head. And I have all the TP I need and the "read children's books" literally makes no sense but I'm sure it played well in the YouTube video that told you what your opinion is.
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  650. @Sly Tora Literally makes no sense. Maybe I will dumb it down further for you so you can understand the written word.
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  651. @Sly Tora Enjoy your life. I mean that sincerely.
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  652.  @bambilackner  Its the only place you can finde the truth What a sad world you live in. *but you get to decide who you believe So....confirmation bias. wouldn't even know have of what the learned about our government and cover ups if not for youtube Yes. I remember the Deep Throat channel that brought down Nixon.
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  653. also what about building 7? Collapsed after burning 3 hours past its fire rating. Predicted by the FDNY since about noon.
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  654. You don't? Why?
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  655. Can you comprehend that if what you suggest were true, the people who had the capability of pulling it off, wouldn't have to. Think about that for a minute.
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  656. Do you actually believe this or are you just a parrot-puppet for Newsmax?
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  657. Just stop it.
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  658.  @ohmydamn6807  Stop. It. There is no film of the driver shooting Kennedy because that didn't happen.
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  659.  @ohmydamn6807  I fully admit I haven't seen it because it doesn't exist.
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  660. So what?
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  661. Never in Rumsfeld's speech does he say the money is "missing".
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  662. There were 18 accounting offices in the Pentagon and that's stupid.
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  663. Only one; a special agent in the Minneapolis office. And the reports of Zaccarius Moussaoui stating he didn't want to learn to land were erroneous. He said no such thing. And this report didn't make it to the WH ever because it was stopped at the office level. The notorious wall between the FBI and CIA and not sharing information. So Bush said no such thing which you lying-ly put quotation marks around.
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  664. 9/11 was an inside job It was not. Come on, it's not even debatable They may be the smartest thing you do. The Pentagon was hit by a missile It was not. The twin towers were demolished with explosives They were not. They were hit with drones They were not. the official story is impossible It's entirely possible and the most plausible. their retarded pancake theory Not only are you using an antiquated and ignorant word, but you seem unaware that the "pancake theory" was nothing more than a working theory by FEMA and abandoned by NIST when they took over the investigation 21 years ago. How does that feel? You've been ignorant for at least two decades. Why would we believe that over the far more simple explanation Which would involve 10's of thousands of people? No wonder you don't want to debate this.
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  665. Because it isn't.
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  666. Only conspiracy theorists find more information a bad thing.
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  667. No.
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  668. It wasn't a plane that got the pentagon Yes it was. the hole was WAY to small The ASCE Pentagon Building performance Report documented severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor. Quickly the visible damage to the wall outside the pentagon was torn down because it didn't look like a jet hit it Or a jet hit it and a section collapsed.
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  669. Is Eddie like....all there?
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  670. that money they stole It wasn't stolen or missing.
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  671. It's not surprising. Outside of collateral damage, the other 5 had no significance to the attacks.
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  672. No. It absolutely was not.
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  673. Yes plane.
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  674.  @jmskipp  Exactly right, but this also didn't start with Rumsfeld. There were probably a dozen audits that reveled this problem dating back to at least well into the Clinton administration. And it was a problem over multiple Presidencies because of outdated accounting systems. And continued after Bush! Completely agree that it's only conspiracy theorists who make hay out of this because they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
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  675. It was a nothing building few people outside of NYC had ever heard of. It wasn't involved in the attacks other than as collateral damage. Beyond conspiracy theorists who need something, it's insignificant.
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  676.  @dluvv19761  I have. Explain its significance and why it needed to be collapsed.
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  677. No. It really wasn't.
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  678. The passport was found before either Tower collapsed. However in the WTC Museum you'll find hundreds of IDs that were found during clean up.
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  679. It was Building 7 in World Trade center plaza was where they were doing the accounting 🤦‍♂ Unbelievable. The DoD does not keep their entire budgetary history off site on one building. Stupidest theory out there.
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  680. No money was missing.
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  681. Tower 7 Collapsed after burning for 7 hours. FDNY predicted its collapse for most of the day. follow the money What money. a TON of videos showing the plane hitting the pentagon How do you know this? They were ALL collected from the surrounding businesses There were 2. And subsequently released. Operation Northwoods was a real conspiracy Rejected and never called for killing of US citizens. why was it cleaned up and sent to China before any investigation 1.4 million tons of debris was taken to Fresh Kills Landfill where it was all sifted and every piece swabbed by NYPD forensic agents looking for DNA. The first steel wasn't shipped overseas until Jan/02. The last piece of steel was removed in May/02.
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  682. where no evidence of people flying the planes was ever found You don't really believe that, do you?
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  683. George W. Bush's brother, Marvin, was the head of security for the WTC complex during 9/11 Marvin Bush sat on the board of directors for a company, Securacom, that sold security equipment and software to the WTCs. A position he left in June 2000. The properties were owned by the NYPA which has its own police force and provided day to day security patrols.
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  684. @asad-kc8zf  What the hell does this even mean.
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  685. I hate how joe acts like he doesnt believe tower 7 was controlled demolition Because it wasn't and he doesn't. Times like these I start to believe Alex Jones That's just sad. He's a con artist. Like Trump.
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  686. Why?
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  687. How about them? What demolition experts believe WTCs 1 and 2 were CD'd?
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  688. No one claims this happened.
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  689. A better example is 2005 Madrid Spain The upper 12 storys of steel framed floors collapsed 2 hours after the fire started. Only the concrete core was standing. the steel skeleton remained The core and perimeter columns up to the 16th floor were concrete. Above that was the steel framing which collapsed.
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  690.  @travisdeeze  1. We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors. –FDNY Lieutenant Robert Larocco 2. ...Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down. –FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn 3. I walked out and I got to Vesey and West, where I reported to Frank [Cruthers]. He said, we’re moving the command post over this way, that building’s coming down. At this point, the fire was going virtually on every floor 4. All morning I was watching 7 World Trade burn, which we couldn't do anything about because it was so much chaos looking for missing members. –Firefighter Marcel Klaes 5. When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories. –FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers 6. The concern there again, it was later in the afternoon, 2, 2:30, like I said. The fear then was Seven. Seven was free burning. Search had been made of 7 already from what they said so they had us back up to that point where we were waiting for 7 to come down to operate from the north back down. –Captain Robert Sohmer http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110472.PDF 7. Then we had to move because the Duane Reade, they said, wasn't safe because building 7 was really roaring. –FDNY Chief Medical Officer Kerry Kelly. 8. At this point Seven World Trade was going heavy, and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down. –Firefighter Vincent Massa No. Not engulfed in flames at all. it had a sprinkler system Which was inoperable because the water mains to the building were broken with the collapses of WTCs 1 & 2. There were tanks which did extinguish fires on the upper floors but the lowers floors burned out of control for 7 hours. A few floors partially burned for a few hours will not cause the entire high rise to kink in the center, implode, and free fall into it's own footprint Tell yourself what you need to. None of that is true. but the architects and engineers who see it this way are infact experts Richard Gage took his "evidence" of WTC7 to 3 consecutive AIA conventions in the hopes of getting a junction to ask for a "new investigation". In a vote of all members, it lost 95%-5%, 90%-10% & 95%-5%. The experts you are touting overwhelmingly rejected his claims.
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  691.  @travisdeeze  Every floor of Tower 7 was not engulfed in flames Multiple firefighters on scene disagree with the anonymous person on the internet. Guess who I'm going with? the building still has access to the reservoir tanks Which I already said happened. It wasn't enough to put out all the fires. Otherwise we wouldn't fire departments at all. The "few" floors that burned were starved of oxygen because the smoke was black Oh jesus christ stop it. This old meme went out in 2006. The color of the smoke has little to no relevance to a fire raging on a 25,000 sqr ft floor. Especially when there's a 20 story gash in the building providing all the oxygen it needed. Tower 7 was brought down by controlled demolition And you have absolutely no evidence of this beyond "It looked like". If you've looked into this subject beyond 5 minutes you know that sentence is true.
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  692.  @travisdeeze  You forgot this part Travis: "These fires might have also burned along the south side of the[19, 22, 29, 30] floors, where they would not have been seen, due to limited visibility from smoke obscuration." -NIST WTC7 Report pg 19 Thus the observations of "fully involved" which doesn't mean on every single floor, but as NIST described: multiple fires on multiple floors. There are pictures and videos of smoke exiting from windows to the height of the building. WTC7 was, by square feet, probably the largest building fire on record.
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  693. Building 7 did not get hit by a plane So what? Do you know what it was hit by? That plane crashed out in Pennsylvania UA93 was no where close to being on a course for NYC. That $2.3 Trillion turned into $3.4 Trillion Which is meaningless. The money was never "missing" but simply unaccounted for. which was almost the entire US debt at the time The US debt was nearly twice this at $5.8 Trillion
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  694. What would you like to know?
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  695.  @JoshSTEELERS  A need to believe conspiracy theories. You need a mental health video, not one on 9/11.
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  696.  @JoshSTEELERS  I don't have a specific video in mind. I just know the number of psychological papers written on the need to believe in a conspiracy theories. One need look no further than QAnon.
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  697.  @JoshSTEELERS  can you really believe papers written by people who are paid off by the government Yes. You have evidence otherwise? These people actually have names. Have you ever tried looking them up to see the reputation they enjoy in the engineering community? Are they respected or just government stooges? MKUltra and Operation Northwoods This is a logical fallacy. Evidence for one thing is not evidence for another. There is no evidence of government involvement in 9/11. Northwoods, a plan devised but never implemented 60 years prior, does not change this. when they start talking about this "Tower 7" What do you not understand about WTC7?
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  698.  matty kelly  👍
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  699. You need temperatures in the THOUSANDS to melt through steel beams Steel loses half its strength at 600C Oh, and no reports claims any of the support columns collapsed due to heat induced failure. You don't get that from building fires Normal office fires reach temperatures in excess of 1000C.
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  700. Not just became president, kicked Trump's ass! 🤣🤣🤣
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  701. Fire has never and will never destroy a structure symmetrically Try to understand the difference between collapse initiation and progressive collapse. beginning of the collapse of WTC # 2 the top 20 floors twist and fall to the side No they did not. They collapsed downward into the building on one side. WTC1 was the same only less pronounced as weakening was more centralized. The collapse of the remaining 90 stories never slows down all the way to the ground But was still les than 1G. as if there was nothing below supporting the roof. Does this make sense Have you read the NIST making sense of it? think about the implications of what I have pointed out Can you think about things now that you know you're wrong?
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  702. No they didn't.
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  703. Because there's no evidence it was.
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  704. @mulvdickenz4206  Read YT comments? For evidence? Well there's your problem right there!
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  705. What do you find fishy?
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  706. Who?
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  707. @smellyfinger684  You understand the clip also involves two people talking, right? Now, what "everything" did Rumsfeld know?
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  708. That's WHY the concrete is reinforced There were no concrete supports used in WTCs 1, 2 or 7. They were steel framed buildings. But that's okay shlemmings Starting to get the irony yet? Grenfell Tower Block Concrete building which had the majority of fire on the outside cladding. Most people died from smoke inhalation. Meridian Building 1991 Fought by firefighters until reached a floor with automatic sprinklers and was extinguished. Chinese skyscraper in flames after fire engulfs high-rise in Changsha city I Watch Again, fire was outside cladding, not inside. Fought by firefighters. No fireproofing knocked off. Now try searching "Plasco Building: Tehran". Now let's go look at that little campfire of Building 7 It had multiple fires on at least 10 floors. It was possibly the largest office fire in history. Building 7 was built to withstand more than could have happened that day It survived 4 hours past its fire rating. It did everything that was asked of it and more. Giuliani's Heavily reinforced SAFE OFFICE was in that building and he never went in You believe the mayor should have run into skyscraper when 2 skyscrapers right next door were hit by planes? You first.
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  709. They let 9/11 to happen They did not. that Clinton put this country in Clinton told the country about a BJ?
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  710. They already know.
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  711. The truth about 911 is becoming known to more and more people Been hearing that for 15 years. The truth is that interest in 9/11 conspiracies has been declining since 2008 and dropped off when the Conspiracy-Theorist-In-Chief Donald Trump started his nonsense.
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  712. @dantesinfernothatriplesix1789  a LOT of things are suspicious Like what? And Oswald killed JFK. All available evidence confirms this. The "magic bullet" was always a fabrication, not supported by any evidence, but thrown into the public vernacular by Oliver Stone's shitty movie.
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  713.  @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL  not like the US government would lie to us Have you ever told a lie? Does that mean everything you've ever said is a lie? And you're now responsible for every crime in your town? Honestly, if this is the best lazy-shit ass shit you're going to offer you may as well stay in the shallow end. How bout Bush and his weapons of " mass destruction" What about it? Do I really have to explain that correlation does not imply causation to you? That 9/11 can be everything it was and the Bush administration simply used that as an excuse to go into Iraq? And do I also really have to explain to you that 9/11 does not exist in a press release from the White House? that vanished before a plane hit the Pentagon It didn't "vanish". You have absolutely no idea what Rumsfeld was speaking about in his speech. Never once did he indicate the money "vanished, was missing or stolen. the way the towers perfectly fell down almost like a controlled demolition You mean downward? In the direction of gravity? The Towers collapsed into a 16 acre field outside their 2 acre footprints. Please explain how that's perfection. witnesses reported hearing load bangs go off after both planes had hit No kidding. A loud bang? Really? Massive fires started from thousands of gallons of jet fuel and major structural damage and you believe loud bangs are a strange occurrence? the plane that was supposed to heading to the white house was suspicious circumstances Meaning what? I doubt you can actually flesh that and simply believe contrarianism makes you a free thinker. Please bring me something better than 'guvmint bad!'.
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  714. @dantesinfernothatriplesix1789  It takes a 1000 wise men to answer the question of one fool. And you do not have the right to your own opinion. You have the right to your informed opinion. No one has the right to be ignorant. Hope that was short enough for you.
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  715.  @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL  reads one article on a subject And that's the lie you tell yourself to sleep at night. Good luck with your delusions.
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  716.  @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL  I wonder how many times you've plagiarized someone else's actual work I guess you need to tell yourself something when you come to the realization you're among your better. Enjoy the shallow end flea.
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  717. @dantesinfernothatriplesix1789  Don't laugh your ass off too much. That's where all your "evidence" comes from.
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  718.  @dantesinferno9circlesofHELL  What a simple existence you must live when you think getting facts wrong is disagreeing. Were you home schooled?
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  719. @Dante's inferno thaTRIPLEsix  Funny. She said you couldn't even get an erection without screaming "Dick Cheney" over and over until you cried.
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  720. @Dante's inferno thaTRIPLEsix  Only a Conspiracy theorist could convince themselves that getting an education somehow makes you uneducated. You're existence is an oxymoron. And you've been wrong on literally everything else. What pile of dung heap have you stuck your head in that makes you believe there aren't multiple confirmation venues verifying the flights?
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  721. Aren't you commenting on one?
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  722. @ryanbowen9718  Well played sir! 😀
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  723. Let not forget Jeb Bush was in charge of the World Trade Center’s security Unbelievable. You can't even get your false claim correct. Jeb Bush was governor of Florida at the time. Marvin Bush sat on the board of directors for a company called Securacom, which provided security equipment and software to the WTCs. He left that job in 2000. Neither had anything to do with providing security to the WTCs, buildings which were protected by their own police force; the NYPAPD. pulled all the bomb sniffing dogs out of the world trade center Proof why you shouldn't rely on shit videos for your information. Because they dropped from extra dogs down to normal surveillance 6 weeks prior to the attacks. They still had bomb sniffing dogs on patrol.
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  724. Sorry. I avoid Jew-Hating idiots at all costs.
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  725.  @aadrianlee  When you are actually fired from your job (American Free Press) because of anti-semitism guess what that makes you. Much like denying racism exists IS the new racism, this is the new anti-semitism.
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  726. Your comment is irrelevant to Wtc7 being a CD. It wasn't.
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  727.  @JohnjOcampo  You're problem is that one conspiracy theory is not evidence of another one. If you have evidence of WTC7 being CD'd, I'm listening. If you have evidence of an inside job, I'm listening. If you're evidence is that "they've always done it" then I hold out no hope of a rational discussion with you.
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  728.  @JohnjOcampo  And now you're simply making things up to justify your conspiracy theory. You know nothing about me and know nothing about how I came to my conclusions. But it's simply easier and more convenient for your "argument" to think otherwise so you just made it up as if it were true. I see a familiar trend. And WTC7 did not collapse fully at Free Fall. It was actually 40% longer than FFA. Was that the extent of your "evidence" for CD?
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  729. They didn't. Did you miss the airplanes and steel and concrete slamming into them?
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  730.  @Pixel_FX  Good point! What gets jumbled is that Rumsfeld never stated the money was missing; it was simply unaccounted for during routine audits. Doesn't mean it went out the door just someone didn't turn in a receipt for a tank, metaphorically speaking. But then you get the clowns who really ramp up the crazy and say all the accounting was in WTC7, which is why it had to be destroyed. 🤦‍♂
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  731. The best airforce Other than the first strike into WTC1, the military was informed of the hijackings only after the planes hit their targets/crashed. 2 towers don't just turn into dus[t] That didn't happen.
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  732. No stand down order was given.
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  733. You know WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were all steel framed, right?
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  734.  @jaankuus3063  No. No concrete was used for any structural supports. The only concrete used in WTCs 1, 2 or 7 was for the floor spans. And normal offices reach temperatures in excess of 1000C. Steel loses half its strength at 600C. And can fail under load at as little as 250C.
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  735. They were built identically and suffered similar damage. Why would you expect different collapses?
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  736. Bingo! Thank you! Never once in Rumsfeld's speech does he use the words "missing", "lost" or "stolen". 🙏
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  737. Which means what?
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  738. Yo-smite National Park! 😆😆
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  739. the deep state/corrupt regime/Uni-government That's not a thing. And I'd accuse the rightists of believing in the same thing but they've joined a cult, not a government entity.
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  740. It did.
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  741. A jenga tower is not 85% air like an office building.
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  742. Why does it matter discussing 9/11?
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  743. Fiction.
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  744. Because even if it were true, it's still evidence of an inside job. Should have been obvious.
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  745. What new evidence?
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  746. because he was anti wars Then why didn't he pull out of Afghanistan? called Iraq and Afghanistan wars huge mistakes You mean with all his military training? *cough* Bone Spurs *cough* even is against US involvement in Ukraine The US is not involved in Ukraine. But I'm sure old Trumpy is verrrryy supportive of Russia over there!
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  747. Only by the crazy fringe on the internet.
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  748. @dotmatrix01  It's adorable you believe that.
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  749. because at the end of the day they are going to do what they want to anyway If that were really the case they wouldn't need to.
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  750. They didn't.
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  751. Jesus. Loose Change has been debunked so many times, sometimes even by its creators, that some CTers now claim it's actually disinfo by the government.
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  752.  @vinjudah5074  Did you not understand the sentence. Conspiracy theorists actually think Loose Change was produced and released by the government because the claims in it are so extremely bad and demonstrably false.
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  753. So what?
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  754.  @dluvv19761  No she didn't. She made a mistake that the building had collapsed based on reports that it was in danger of doing so. Tell me you have something better for me than this garbage.
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  755. Rumsfeld never once used the words missing, lost or stolen when he gave his speech 9/10/01.
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  756. Take back from who? Be specific.
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  757. Stop it.
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  758.  @pineapplecrackwrecklemonad269  Some of what? I highly doubt you have anything better than the same bigoted nonsense I've dispensed with for years.
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  759.  @johnbatinovic6593  the world trade centre buildings were due to have a major asbestos removal reconstruction/renovation which would be very costly $200 million was the estimate at the time. Not cheap but a fraction of the WTCs price tag of $3.2 Billion. And it was only in one building up to the 40th floor.
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  760. @guyindecatur  'He's guilty because I think he's guilty because he's Jewish'. Gotcha. Tell me: what color is the sky in your world?
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  761. So diesel fuel won't ignite? Ever? Under any condition? That's what you're going with Chief?
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  762.  @jimo-tx6385  show me the wings from the pentagon Strike The ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report documents severed or damaged columns 90 ft across the first floor. Missile guidance wings have a small profile More than 100 eyewitnesses describe a plane hitting the Pentagon. No one describes a missile. Did owners of WTC previously request to demolish WTC No. The Empire State Building was hit by a military aircraft long ago and the building was fine Smaller, slower and almost empty. It impacted with a fraction of the energy from the max speed 757/767 and had little fuel to start wide scale fires. At what temperature does jet fuel burn at Irrelevant since most of it burned off in 10 mins. Normal office fires reach temperatures in excess of 1000C. At what temperature does steel lose its strength to support a structure Steel loses half its strength at 600C. And can fail under load at as little as 250C. Did bxxb sniffing dogs get stood down The increased levels did. They still had normal patrols. Why was Rudy escorted out of #7 just before it “collapsed WTC7 collapsed at 5:20. Giuliani was no where near 7 at that time. He was warned prior to WTC1 collapsing by an engineer who called after seeing the bowing of the perimeter columns from the helicopter shots on TV. without being hit Please don't tell me you believe this. Did that location have financial records Most likely since it was an office building.
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  763. Because he's not wrong.
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  764.  @coolyoutubename16  would have destroyed the bathtub - didn't happen "After the collapse of the Twin Towers, the concrete floor slabs that had provided structural support for the surrounding soils and groundwater adjacent to the Hudson River were completely destroyed. Without this support, the water pressure being exerted on the surrounding Bathtub was causing the walls to shift, creating leaks of up to 100 to 200 gallons per minute (gpm), and threatening ground loss and structural failure of the Bathtub." -Underground Infrastructure Sept/2016 building 7 didn't register as a seismic event "The nearby 7 World Trade Center came down at 5:20:33 pm, and the instruments picked that up, too. “It was more gradual than the big towers,” said [Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory seismologist Won-Young] Kim." -Columbia Climate School Sept/21 Why, why, why do you not tire of being always wrong.
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  765. I asked on a forum with engineers if they could have been saved had they not collapsed. The answer was "6 months and a LOT of money and I might tell you". I don't know if they could safely and without damaging other buildings bring those Towers down with explosives. The tallest to date is the 31 story JL Hudson building in Detroit. If they couldn't be saved, and they were determined to be safe enough, they could take it down floor by floor from the top down. If they were too unstable God knows what could be done.
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  766. Where have these phycologists taken their work to be professionally evaluated? Because there are multiple APA papers on the conspiracists mind needing order and can't fathom a large, uncontrollable world, which is why they have to invent stories and blame the government.
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  767. The same way? You mean downward? In the direction of gravity?
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  768. @franryan4159  Yes....I am witnessing the decades of education destruction. Who mentioned "upwards"? I'm illustrating that the "identical" collapses were little more than in the direction of gravity. Two similarly constructed buildings, suffered similar damage, similar conditions and collapsed similarly. And you find this suspicious.....why?
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  769.  @fryan4159  The only thing you are 'illustrating' is how easily people are prepared to accept the controlled narrative without question That's you substituting your opinion for actual facts. I have studied this subject far more than you ever will. then she says, 'As you can see, the north tower has just collapsed...' Problem was it was still standing So much wrong. You're speaking of BBC Reporter Jane Standey. She was reporting the collapse of WTC7, not the north tower. And she starts by stating "details are very, very sketchy". Reuters news service had been relying reports from the FDNY that WTC7 was in danger of collapse and mistakenly released "has collapsed" which is what Standey and others reported. I doubt you could find any other sky scraper on earth where it collapses straight down Plasco Building Tehran. or how much you should trust your government Why are you all so simple in your thinking that you believe 9/11 exists in a press release from Dick Cheney.
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  770. No money was missing.
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  771. I have yet to see one single video of this mysterious 'plane' hitting the Pentegon Why do you believe one exists? I don't know a single person who has seen this alleged footage Over 100 witnesses saw a plane hit the Pentagon. Isn't it more likely that a missile or planted explosives were the cause of the damage By what metric? All available evidence proves the Pentagon was hit by AA77.
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  772. Showing at all Klan rallies.
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  773. Explosions do not automatically equal explosives. Things explode in large fires. And the jet fuel falling down the elevator shaft and igniting is what caused the explosion in the basement.
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  774.  @GLRAIRSOFT  Well, I can't make you accept reality. I can only present the facts.
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  775. i have it saved in my "watch later" list Why would you?
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  776. It wasn't.
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  777. Nope.
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  778. @asad-kc8zf  Goodness. Why not accuse unicorns and leprechauns while you're at it.
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  779. Watch "loose change" Which one? They're so bad they had to keep making them.
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  780. watch Dr just woods..where did the towers go 🤦‍♂
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  781. Yes. Hundreds of witnesses did.
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  782. No money was missing.
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  783. seeing that 2.3 was unaccounted for Which was from an audit conducted a year prior and one of several over the past decade. It had as much to do with the 9/11 attacks as all the others.
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  784. It's insane to me that all the evidence is still ignored Like what? No steel building has ever collapsed due to a fire Kader Toy Factory McCormick Center Plasco Building Tehran no plane wreckage was found at the pentagon Lot of plane wreckage was found. The lawn was littered with pieces of the fuselage and wings and inside the building was the engines and landing gear. FACTS No. Not a single one.
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  785. No money was stolen.
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  786. Wasn't a Tomahawk cruise missile, it was a plane.
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  787. @painhertz  Glad you're acknowledging you're a mindless sheep who believes every make believe fairy tale on the internet.
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  788. @dotmatrix01  Not really. The irony is you thinking that.
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  789. By Aug/01 there were half a billion internet users in the world. And cameras and video cameras were quite common.
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  790. Why is it necessary?
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  791.  @86scottjm  Why? 22 years later and there is absolutely no there there. They were held for 70 days and vetted by the FBI. They were released when no evidence was found connecting them to the attacks. They are only an interesting conversation if you leave out 75% of the information about them.
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  792. No they weren't.
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  793.  @alwagner9722  Why not throw in Men In Black and Oompa Loompas as well.
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  794. 6 weeks before the attack.Terrorism insurance was taken out There was no "terrorism" insurance at the time. It was considered such low risk that it was standard on policies. And insurance was taken out 6 weeks prior because that's when Silverstein won the contract to lease the Towers. was awarded over 4 billion dollars Which was only a portion of the $10 billion to rebuild. This is the stuff Ventura doesn't tell you.
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  795. 1500 architects and engineers That's less than .1% of the A & E professionals in the US.
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  796. So?
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  797. Or he knows you're ridiculous.
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  798. Are you speaking about the Pentagon? Because there was a passport found on the street of NY before either Tower collapsed. However, they did actually find the identification of one of passengers next to her body during the clean up. So either way, possible.
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  799. Wasn't even the smallest inside job.
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  800. Cool story Bro.
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  801. @Gigi1111Layna  Who didn't go to work? Before you answer you should know approximately 300 people of Jewish faith died in the attacks. Among them 3 Israeli nationals. So let's hear who you think didn't make it to work because I have an interesting counterargument that the Irish committed 9/11.
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  802. with a certain Saudi Arabian Prince (anyone, anyone) Bin Laden 🤦‍♂ Dear lord! The bin Laden's were not part of the Royal Family therefore not princes or any nobility. They were heavily associated with the Royal Family but for construction deals. And Usama Bin Laden was famously estranged from the bin Laden family with limited contact starting in the 80's. He was never associated to negotiate oil deals for Saudi Arabia. Give that atrocity-to-reality you just wrote, do you really need me to rip apart the rest of your nonsense?
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  803. We know because Reagan gave them to him 🤦‍♂ Boy you guys just like to make shit up.
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  804. Wrong again Adolph.
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  805. Right. And meaningless.
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  806. These guys The ever popular "them". The backbone of all conspiracy theories.
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  807. Eddie's not saying he knows for a fact Which means he's just making it up. You get that, right?
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  808. Two planes, and the result from such, damaged about 20 buildings. And the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report documented severed or damaged columns about 90 ft across the first floor.
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  809. Richard Gage isn't an engineer. He's an architect. And he hasn't known what he's been talking about since 2006.
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  810. What does Sadaam have to do with 9/11?
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  811.  @duc06820  You're half right.
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  812. Nah!
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  813. they were aloud to leave when all planes where in this country where grounded They were not. They flew domestically when those restrictions were lifted and then left the country when international travel resumed.
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  814. No one claims this.
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  815. 9/11 was an inside job It was not. there is plenty of evidence There is none. Donald Rumsfeld stated that there was 2.3 Trillion USD that was unaccounted for in defense spending So what? "Unaccounted for" does not mean missing. The following day the accounting division where all of the accounting records were kept was destroyed The Pentagon has about 18 accounting offices. They don't keep their 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office. inside explosives There's no evidence of this a cruise missile There's no evidence of this. People who were in other parts of the building smelled cordite So on top of explosives and cruise missiles you're throwing in 18th century muskets? There was no crash debris from the airliner There was debris from the wings and fuselage littering the lawn. People still strapped to their seats were found inside. there were two six by six foot columns on either side of the fuselage that would have stopped the jet engines dead The ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report documented severed or damaged columns 90' across the first floor. who was responsible for conducting the audit was a citizen of Israel who had dual citizen with the U.S 🤦‍♂ I was wondering how long before 'Da Joos Did It!' would show up. This individual owned a company that produced a special brand of high explosive blasting caps that a group of Israeli technical specialists were seen installing in the twin towers prior to 9/11 Ok never mind. When you go off just making things up, there's no point in continuing. Stay in the shallow end. You're not going to know anywhere near enough about this subject to take me on.
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  816. Released after finding no evidence connecting them to the attacks. Is that who you're talking about?
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  817. "I'll be the first to admit that our film definitely contains errors. It still does contain some dubious claims, and definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts .....I'm just saying that Loose Change is really not a fair representation of the 9/11 Truth movement." -Loose Change director Dylan Avery YT - Loose Change Debate 9/11 Program 1 Part 1 6:55
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  818. whats sketchy is this guy was on the opposite side of where the plane hit the pentagon Or, you know, that's just where his meeting was. Do you think Donald made sure he was on the opposite side of the building? Do you think Scarlett Johansson will marry me if I won a billion dollars? Do you think someone wanted to dispose of Lieutenant General by moving him in the renovated office located at the West side of the building Do you think people will someday be able to fly?
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  819. @ Which means it's made up BS and worthless.
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  820. That's actually not true. Scientists knew it was hogwash. It was religious leaders who said differently and made the narrative. Then it was the gullible who chose religion over science.
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  821.  @salvadordolly712  What? What does this have to do with you being egregiously wrong?
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  822. That's as dumb as anything I've read on the internet.
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  823. A fckn tomahawk hit the pentagon No it didn't. conveniently where the missing 100millionbilliontrillions was being investigated No money was "missing". And the DoD doesn't keep its 50 year budget history on a few desktops in one office. You idiots That didn't age well.
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  824. Yeah. Actually most professionals do believe that.
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  825. Why did you skip over the $8 Trillion Trump added? The same amount in 4 years, with a roaring economy, that Obama added in 8 when he was dealing with the worst financial crisis since The Great Depression? When are you people going to realize it always Republicans who break the economy and it is always Democrats who fix it?
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  826.  @k.c.8086  You're the one who singled out current and prior presidents, yet left out the person who added the most to the debt in the shortest period of time. Yes, the context was absolutely necessary given this bit of nonsense revisionist history. I read you just fine and pointed out the huge gap you left. Typical MAGA head who can never ever utter a bad word against Dear Leader.
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  827. @k.c.8086  Well if that were really the case you wouldn't have left out the biggest spender there was. And you wouldn't have shown your true colors with the "typical liberal democrat" rant. I can't read? You can't fucking remember what you wrote!
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  828. @k.c.8086  And.....yet again..... You left out the biggest spender in a rant about politician spending. Where. Are. You. Getting. Lost? And a mid life crisis hating Trump? It literally makes no sense. Try remembering what you write. Then people like me won't point out your stunted growth.
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  829. It was $2.3 Trillion. And it was never stated as being "lost".
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  830.  @Country-Cricket  It was $2.3 trillion. And, again, it was never "lost". Not a good look deflecting to others when you get everything wrong in your post. And BTW, Biden is smack in the middle of cleaning up the mess left by Trump and the other crooks, up to and including democracy itself. You could just say thank you.
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  831. @user-mt1oz7zd7z  I was being civil. Far more than your nonsense deserved. Especially given you couldn't even get your false claim correct. And before the 2020 election, only one candidate's campaign party felt it necessary for him to take a competency test. News flash: wasn't Biden's. And Trump thought it was an intelligence test! 🤣
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  832. @user-mt1oz7zd7z  Your ignorance offends me. And using Sky News Australia for a reference tells me all I need to know about you. I'm only surprised you didn't use the National Enquirer. How has Scientology not snatched you up?
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  833.  @Country-Cricket  Says the person who doesn't know if it's $13 trillion or $1.3 trillion or $2.3 trillion. Or even what was said. Yeah. Not concerned with ignorant opinion.
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  834. Don't bother. It wasn't.
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  835.  @rogvarley6971  Explain that to my uncle Explain to some unnamed person with some unnamed injury brought forth by an unnamed poster on the internet? Yup. Truther "evidence" at its finest. Explain why tower 7 collapsed Did you read the NIST Report explaining its collapse? why there were explosions You do know explosions do not exclusively mean explosives, right? in key locations caught on film Oh my I hope you didn't fall for the phony "flashes" video made by a comedian to show the gullibility of truthers! The one with a UFO! That would be hilarious! I can go on Please do! This is all softball shit. Like you just finished watching Loose Change and thought you were ready for the internet.
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  836. the documents that could trace the fraud money laundering at the pentagon were blown to bits There were 18 accounting offices in the Pentagon. Only one was hit. The DoD doesn't keep 50 years of budget history on a few desktops in one office. the only backup files in world trade center building 7 were buried under rubble 🤦‍♂ When and where did this stupidity start? when the fire team 'pulled' it down What division in the FDNY is the demolition division?
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  837. Only in WTC1 and only up to the 40th floor. Contractors stopped using it recognizing that NYC was changing codes. Would have cost about $200 million to remove.
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  838. THEN went and wiped out ALL THE RECORDS The DoD doesn't keep its 50 year budget hostory on a few desktops in one office. The Pentagon had 18 others that had all the records they needed. an aircraft WOULD have been MASHED A 100 ton aircraft traveling 500+mph impacted with the KE of about 2000 lbs of TNT.
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  839. @Ken Bardwell  Lots of plane parts were found. The lawn was littered with pieces of the wings and fuselage. If you didn't find any its because you never bothered yourself to look.
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  840. the 2.3 trillion was in building 7 Sometimes I just can't deal with the s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y that gets posted here.
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  841. Released when no evidence was found of their involvement.
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  842. So people knew people so....inside job. Makes as much sense as all the other claims.
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  843. Piglosi This explains a lot about your comments.
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  844. WTC building 7 didn't even get hit Is that what you really believe? at free fall speed No building fully collapsed at Free Fall _Acceleration (there is no free fall "speed"). It just happened to house.... 90% of the building was occupied by the Salomon Brothers. Only a few offices housed government satellite agencies. where the 2.3 Trillion couldn't be found 🤦‍♂ I don't know when this claim started but it is among the dumbest to think the DoD kept their financial records in a one building in NYC. how they said it cought on fire due to falling debris Oh. So you do know it was hit. WERE JUST FINE 🤦‍♂ Incredibly dumb. Like monumentally stupid. Like you're almost deliberately ignorant of facts. WTC3 was cut in half. WTCs 4, 5 and 6 all suffered severe damage and burned out.
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  845. since the accounting department was blown up There were 18 accounting offices in the Pentagon. The DoD doesn't keep 50 years worth of Budget history on a few desktops in one office.
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  846.  @brian6827  Why?
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  847. It didn't.
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  848. It doesn't have to. Normal office fires burn at 1000C. Steel loses half its strength at 600C. And can fail under load at as little as 250C. Were you taught that in Ironworker school?
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  849. Because there's absolutely no evidence of explosives bringing down WTC7.
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  850. No. Just some fringe people on the internet.
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  851. Where did we get the poopy seeds from Turkey. Followed by Serbia and Macedonia
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  852. Why?
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  853. just some days after 911 Doubtful. While wrote about that the passport was found on the street in NYC, most likely none of this was shown publicly until the Moussoui trial.
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  854. So he stopped telling you what you want to hear and you don't bother to check out his comments, you just conclude he sold out. It's a wonder you guys can tie your shoes in the morning.
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  855. Here's how: It's true that Rumsfeld announced they were having difficulty tracking $2.3 Trillion in transactions. The conspiracy theory is that this money is lost or missing.
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  856. Also the trade towers were a white elephant it was made so poorly There were about 40 developers who bid on the WTC contracts in 2001, they were such attractive and profitable properties.
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  857. It's 3 miles out, it's 2 miles out do the orders still stand! Yes. The shoot down orders were still in place.
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  858. Silverstein Properties was awarded, on appeal, $4.8 Billion in insurance payout. The WTC complex is estimated to cost over $10 billion to replace. Along with $120 million per year owed on leases to the Port Authority for properties they couldn't rent. They lost money because of the attacks. And the WTC Towers were highly sought after properties. There were approximately 30 developers who vied for the leases that Silverstein Properties eventually won.
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  859. So?
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  860. 1. Rumsfeld never said the money was missing, lost or stolen. 2. All evidence says there was. No evidence even suggests a missile. 3. What? 3. Never mind. 🙄
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  861.  @mattluke481  They scrambled the jets over the ocean "They" did not. The only order given to the fighter pilots was to get in the air. They themselves vectored off shore which was their SOP until given further orders. Popeyed missiles were also used on USS Cole in Yemen They were not. John O’Neil who got kicked out of Yemen He was not kicked out. He made a routine trip to NYC and then was denied reentry when he requested to return months later. by the US Jewish ambassador there Bodine? How did you determine she was Jewish? You know, other than the alt-right websites you visit. There are rumors he was already dead the day before the towers were blown to smithereens Cripes! You're just going to go full QAnon, aren't you?
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  862.  @mattluke481  no darling , it’s the pure truth No cupcake, it's not. I adhere to the policy of not allowing something stated over and over to be confused with fact. There is absolutely no evidence a missile was fired at the Pentagon. Over 100 eyewitnesses saw a plane approach and hit the building. Not one person described a missile. If it hurts then report me To whom? Why would you think your nonsense is so important it needs to be reported to anyone? I'm quite capable of handling this myself. Even Michael Schauer was happy about O’Neil’s death And why do I care? Why would this in any way prove anything about your false claim he was killed before 9/11/01? For cripes sake he was seen entering the building that day! You're so far from the truth you can rent an apartment with Richard Gage.
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  863. With cables?
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  864. Because they were released 70 days after finding no evidence they were involved in the attacks.
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  865. Not surprising. It was an insignificant building few people outside NYC had ever heard of. Other than collateral damage it had no involvement in the 9/11 attacks.
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