Comments by "Arty" (@arty5876) on "Asmongold TV "
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@majkib it's wrong analogy based on misunderstanding. It's not about language, it's about policy of balancing. This war started only after American backed coup in Kiev. Before this Russia recognized Crimea as Ukrainian and there was a peace. But in 2014 US backed coup and change of power in Ukraine. So Russia, as one of the Global powers, as an ANSWER to America, to secure the balance of power began to do the same. America backed coup in Kiev, and only AFTER that, Russia as an ANSWER backed coup in the Donbass, so Donetsk and Luhansk declared independence from Ukraine, and new Ukrainian government, who came to power as a result of illegal coup, hypocritically blamed Donbass rebels in organizing illegal coup and Ukraine moved its army to the Donbass, starting this war against Russian people, and Russia had no other choise but to intervene and support its people in their struggling for independence and self determination.
It was not Russia who started this originally, but Ukraine and West, Russia just balanced and did as an answer what West and Ukraine were doing by themselves.
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@MrDarkenral you Crimean Tatars were protesting for independence of Crimea from Ukraine as well, so you are out of equation in discussion who is right to own Crimea - Russia or Ukraine, because Crimean Tatars are against BOTH Russia and Ukraine and even under Ukraine there were massive protests for independence. But Crimean Tatars are 20% of Crimean population and Russians are 60%, so you not to decide the fate of this land. Crimea originally belonged to Russia, but in 1954 Soviet government transfered Russian land with Russian population to Ukraine without asking the people. According to the law Crimea was an autonomous region inside Ukraine and in case of leaving USSR must had held a vote for self determination inside Crimea, but Ukraine violated the law and this didn't happened, and in 1994 Crimean parliament attempted to hold the vote by itself, but Ukrainian police supressed everything and parliament was dissovolved. Despite all of this Russia recognized Crimea as Ukrainian, there was peace, untill American backed coup happened in Kiev in 2014. I repeat - Russia would have NEVER invaded Ukraine if there was no American backed coup in Kiev. Before 2014 Russia recognized Crimea as Ukrainian and Russia was only building peacefull economic ties with Ukraine. And Donald Trump's leak of USAID documents have proved, that USA are backing with money mass media and politicial parties all across the World to act in American interets. And information that was considered "Russian propaganda" about 5 billion dollars USA have spent on coup in Ukraine was proven. Everything Russia did is just played reverse UNO card and returned Crimea back to its original holder inside USSR, before it was given to Ukraine in 1954.
And also - Ukraine was weak in 2014, so if we wanted to conquer all of Ukraine back then, we had big opportunity to do it in few weeks with low casualities, capturing Kiev in 3 days for real, not like this failure in 2022. But instead of capturing Ukraine, insteaf of this Putin was playing diplomacy games. Read the text of Minsk peace agreements that Russia proposed to Ukraine in october 2014 - Putin wanted to trade back Donbass to Ukraine in exchange of political power. Russia proposed peace agreement to Ukraine, according to which Russia was trying to give Donetsk and Luhansk BACK into Ukraine in exchange of their autonomous status inside Ukraine with own parliaments. So, you are wrong - in 2014 Russia DIDN'T wanted to capture all of Ukraine, only some parts, to then trade it back and return to Ukraine in exchange of influence, and Ukrainian president Poroshenko was ready to make deal with Putin, he agreed with Putin on this deal, but Ukrainian parliament denied this, and also pro-Russian rebels didn't wanted to make peace with Ukraine so deal failed, and conflict was just frozen among the frontline. And it was just a matter of time untill Ukraine could have returned to take back Donetsk and Luhansk, while Zelensky signed a deal with UK about UK naval base in Odessa and started to supress all pro-Russian media and parties. This is why and how war of 2022 started.
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