Comments by "Arty" (@arty5876) on "Attacks on energy facilities continue | Russians take over Toretsk mine [21 March 2025]" video.
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@jehandesains8674 "Maidan would never happened, if Russia had not done anything"
Tell me, what Russia did so Maidan happened? It was an oligarch coup supprted by the West, and Russia did nothing before 2014 to provoke this.
Youtube Western censorship is deleting my comments, and I am lazy to explain, so, I will copy my reply to another person in changed comment.
it was a coup - the president was overthrown, he was forced to leave, and there was no vote, he wasn't voted out. No matter how bad Yanukovich was, instead of making a coup, Ukrainian people could have just elected different president in upcoming election in may 2014. But instead they made a coup, and Russia as an answer played a reverse UNO card in Crimea and Donbass. None of this could have happened if Ukrainians used a legal procedure to choose a better president 2 months after. But in fact it is not Ukrainian people who did this.
Ukraine as a state is oligarchy, which means that all political parties and media in Ukraine is ruled or lobbied by oligarchs. Before 2014, Russia and European Union were economically competing over Ukraine, so Ukrainian economic elites, oligarchs, divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian, and Ukrainian political parties, mass media and people divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian. President Yanukovich wasn't pro-Russian, in fact he was trying to balance between Russia and European Union, but Russian economic influence was very big, it was bigger than European. So when Yanukovich wanted to sign a deal with European Union, Russia started to threat Ukraine with trade tariffs, and Yanukovich was forced to NOT sign a deal with European Union. This provoked massive pro-Western protests in Kiev in the first place, and originally Ukrainian oligarchs have paid poor students to came to protests and oligarch-controlled mass media escalated the protests. In 2013 America have bought 99% share of Ukrainian Novatek company, basically America simply bought Russian gas pipeline in Ukraine. Also Shell corporation had plans to extract Ukrainian gas to replace Russian gas and they signed few contracts. Later American money, American media and even American politicians helped the protests - in december 2013 senator John McCain came to Kiev, he gave an inspiring speech in front of protestors. What American senator forgot in another country, thousands of kilometers from his homeland, giving an inspiring speech to protesters who want to overthrow the government and take power? Later, in january 2014 the head of American State Department, Victoria Nuland, came to Ukraine, she talked with Ukrainian politicians in charge of protests, also gave an inspiring speech to people, and gave famous cookies to protestors. And again a question rises - what American senator and head of state department were doing in Kiev during revolution? Just imagine a situation, that during a January 6th 2021 protests in USA, Russian foreign minister Lavrov comes to Washington, talks with Trump, gives a speech to protestors, gives them cookies, and later protestors storm Capitoli, Senate and White House and overthrow Biden. This is what happened in Ukraine.
Also, Ukrainian oligarchs paid money for 24/7 toilets, 24/7 food, Molotov coktails, weapons and even military helmets to protestors, and one of Ukraine's oligarchs, Poroshenko, who became a president 2 months later, proudly was saying that he paid for all this. Ukrainian oligarchs and some American money have paid for 24/7 food and toilets with heating during winter, weapons and military helmets for protestors in Kiev. Later the first blood appeared, when Ukrainian policemen, who were used to brutally supress Crimea's Tatar and Russian protests for indepdendence from Ukraine (1994-2013), brutally supressed and killed now Ukrainians themselves in Kiev. Yes, that's right, Ukrainian policemen who killed people in Kiev, this exact special police unit, were the same Ukrainian policemen who were brutally supressing Russian and Tatar protests in Crimea that occured in Crimea 1994-2013. Also Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, because in post Soviet countries naz%s are very healthy strong men who want a fight, and during this protests Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, so naz% squads were also fighting police. Later protestors just started to kill policemen with molotov coktails, captured state buildings and president flee from Ukraine to only country he can flee - Russia. After this Russian troops came to Crimea.
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@jehandesains8674 I will copy my reply to another person because I am lazy to write again. It was a coup - the president was overthrown, he was forced to leave, and there was no vote, he wasn't voted out. No matter how bad Yanukovich was, instead of making a coup, Ukrainian people could have just elected different president in upcoming election in may 2014. But instead they made a coup, and Russia as an answer played a reverse UNO card in Crimea and Donbass. None of this could have happened if Ukrainians used a legal procedure to choose a better president 2 months after. But in fact it is not Ukrainian people who did this.
Ukraine as a state is oligarchy, which means that all political parties and media in Ukraine is ruled or lobbied by oligarchs. Before 2014, Russia and European Union were economically competing over Ukraine, so Ukrainian economic elites, oligarchs, divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian, and Ukrainian political parties, mass media and people divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian. President Yanukovich wasn't pro-Russian, in fact he was trying to balance between Russia and European Union, but Russian economic influence was very big, it was bigger than European. So when Yanukovich wanted to sign a deal with European Union, Russia started to threat Ukraine with trade tariffs, and Yanukovich was forced to NOT sign a deal with European Union. This provoked massive pro-Western protests in Kiev in the first place, and originally Ukrainian oligarchs have paid poor students to came to protests and oligarch-controlled mass media escalated the protests. In 2013 America have bought 99% share of Ukrainian Novatek company, basically America simply bought Russian gas pipeline in Ukraine. Also Shell corporation had plans to extract Ukrainian gas to replace Russian gas and they signed few contracts. Later American money, American media and even American politicians helped the protests - in december 2013 senator John McCain came to Kiev, he gave an inspiring speech in front of protestors. What American senator forgot in another country, thousands of kilometers from his homeland, giving an inspiring speech to protesters who want to overthrow the government and take power? Later, in january 2014 the head of American State Department, Victoria Nuland, came to Ukraine, she talked with Ukrainian politicians in charge of protests, also gave an inspiring speech to people, and gave famous cookies to protestors. And again a question rises - what American senator and head of state department were doing in Kiev during revolution? Just imagine a situation, that during a January 6th 2021 protests in USA, Russian foreign minister Lavrov comes to Washington, talks with Trump, gives a speech to protestors, gives them cookies, and later protestors storm Capitoli, Senate and White House and overthrow Biden. This is what happened in Ukraine.
Also, Ukrainian oligarchs paid money for 24/7 toilets, 24/7 food, Molotov coktails, weapons and even military helmets to protestors, and one of Ukraine's oligarchs, Poroshenko, who became a president 2 months later, proudly was saying that he paid for all this. Ukrainian oligarchs and some American money have paid for 24/7 food and toilets with heating during winter, weapons and military helmets for protestors in Kiev. Later the first blood appeared, when Ukrainian policemen, who were used to brutally supress Crimea's Tatar and Russian protests for indepdendence from Ukraine (1994-2013), brutally supressed and killed now Ukrainians themselves in Kiev. Yes, that's right, Ukrainian policemen who killed people in Kiev, this exact special police unit, were the same Ukrainian policemen who were brutally supressing Russian and Tatar protests in Crimea that occured in Crimea 1994-2013. Also Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, because in post Soviet countries naz%s are very healthy strong men who want a fight, and during this protests Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, so naz% squads were also fighting police. Later protestors just started to kill policemen with molotov coktails, captured state buildings and president flee from Ukraine to only country he can flee - Russia. After this Russian troops came to Crimea.
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@markmackan3274 "they did it illegaly"
Yeah and there was an illegal American backed coup in Kiev, so Russians in Crimea and Donbass had their right to do the same, to do the same coups. You blaming them is such a hypocrisy and double standards. What happened in Ukraine is competition of great powers over spheres of influence. There is Russia, European Union, USA, Turkey, China, and other players that want influence over Ukraine. In 2014 America sponsored a coup in Kiev, and Russia, as an ANSWER sponsored coups in Crimea and Donbass. Russia had all rights to do this after what happened in Kiev, pro-Russian population in the Donbass had all the rights to do this after what happened in Kiev. But government from Kiev started a military operation, a war against Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. Ukraine started a war against our, Russian people, and on our Russian land that Lenin gave to Ukraine in 1917. For 8 years we tried to solve conflict diplomatically, with peaceful means, but all failed, so after the last negotiations with NATO in 2021, in 2022 we tried a military solution, but it also didn't achieved maximum goals. But at least now we control all Russian populated lands in Ukraine and we are ready for dialogue and ceasefire.
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@markmackan3274 the president was overthrown, he was forced to leave, and there was no vote, he wasn't voted out. No matter how bad Yanukovich was, instead of making a coup, Ukrainian people could have just elected different president in upcoming election in may 2014. But instead they made a coup, and Russia as an answer played a reverse UNO card in Crimea and Donbass. None of this could have happened if Ukrainians used a legal procedure to choose a better president 2 months after. But in fact it is not Ukrainian people who did this. Ukraine as a state is oligarchy, which means that all political parties and media in Ukraine is ruled or lobbied by oligarchs. Before 2014, Russia and European Union were economically competing over Ukraine, so Ukrainian economic elites, oligarchs, divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian, and Ukrainian political parties, mass media and people divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian. President Yanukovich wasn't pro-Russian, in fact he was trying to balance between Russia and European Union, but Russian economic influence was very big, it was bigger than European. So when Yanukovich wanted to sign a deal with European Union, Russia started to threat Ukraine with trade tariffs, and Yanukovich was forced to NOT sign a deal with European Union. This provoked massive pro-Western protests in Kiev in the first place, and originally Ukrainian oligarchs have paid poor students to came to protests and oligarch-controlled mass media escalated the protests. Later American money, American media and even American politicians helped the protests - in december 2013 senator John McCain came to Kiev, he gave an inspiring speech in front of protestors. What American senator forgot in another country, thousands of kilometers from his homeland, giving an inspiring speech to protesters who want to overthrow the government and take power? Later, in january 2014 the head of American State Department, Victoria Nuland, came to Ukraine, she talked with Ukrainian politicians in charge of protests, also gave an inspiring speech to people, and gave famous cookies to protestors. And again a question rises - what American senator and head of state department were doing in Kiev during revolution? Just imagine a situation, that during a January 6th 2021 protests in USA, Russian foreign minister Lavrov comes to Washington, talks with Trump, gives a speech to protestors, gives them cookies, and later protestors storm Capitoli, Senate and White House and overthrow Biden. This is what happened in Ukraine.
Also, Ukrainian oligarchs paid money for 24/7 toilets, 24/7 food, Molotov coktails, weapons and even military helmets to protestors, and one of Ukraine's oligarchs, Poroshenko, who became a president 2 months later, proudly was saying that he paid for all this. Ukrainian oligarchs and some American money have paid for 24/7 food and toilets with heating during winter, weapons and military helmets for protestors in Kiev. Later the first blood appeared, when Ukrainian policemen, who were used to brutally supress Crimea's Tatar and Russian protests for indepdendence from Ukraine (1994-2013), brutally supressed and killed now Ukrainians themselves in Kiev. Yes, that's right, Ukrainian policemen who killed people in Kiev, this exact special police unit, were the same Ukrainian policemen who were brutally supressing Russian and Tatar protests in Crimea that occured in Crimea 1994-2013. Later protestors just started to kill policemen with molotov coktails, captured state buildings and president flee from Ukraine to only country he can flee - Russia. After this Russian troops came to Crimea.
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@markmackan3274 the president was overthrown, he was forced to leave, and there was no vote, he wasn't voted out. No matter how bad Yanukovich was, instead of making a coup, Ukrainian people could have just elected different president in upcoming election in may 2014. But instead they made a coup, and Russia as an answer played a reverse UNO card in Crimea and Donbass. None of this could have happened if Ukrainians used a legal procedure to choose a better president 2 months after. But in fact it is not Ukrainian people who did this. Ukraine as a state is oligarchy, which means that all political parties and media in Ukraine is ruled or lobbied by oligarchs. Before 2014, Russia and European Union were economically competing over Ukraine, so Ukrainian economic elites, oligarchs, divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian, and Ukrainian political parties, mass media and people divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian. President Yanukovich wasn't pro-Russian, in fact he was trying to balance between Russia and European Union, but Russian economic influence was very big, it was bigger than European. So when Yanukovich wanted to sign a deal with European Union, Russia started to threat Ukraine with trade tariffs, and Yanukovich was forced to NOT sign a deal with European Union. This provoked massive pro-Western protests in Kiev in the first place, and originally Ukrainian oligarchs have paid poor students to came to protests and oligarch-controlled mass media escalated the protests. In 2013 America have bought 99% share of Ukrainian Novatek company, basically America simply bought Russian gas pipeline in Ukraine. Later American money, American media and even American politicians helped the protests - in december 2013 senator John McCain came to Kiev, he gave an inspiring speech in front of protestors. What American senator forgot in another country, thousands of kilometers from his homeland, giving an inspiring speech to protesters who want to overthrow the government and take power? Later, in january 2014 the head of American State Department, Victoria Nuland, came to Ukraine, she talked with Ukrainian politicians in charge of protests, also gave an inspiring speech to people, and gave famous cookies to protestors. And again a question rises - what American senator and head of state department were doing in Kiev during revolution? Just imagine a situation, that during a January 6th 2021 protests in USA, Russian foreign minister Lavrov comes to Washington, talks with Trump, gives a speech to protestors, gives them cookies, and later protestors storm Capitoli, Senate and White House and overthrow Biden. This is what happened in Ukraine.
Also, Ukrainian oligarchs paid money for 24/7 toilets, 24/7 food, Molotov coktails, weapons and even military helmets to protestors, and one of Ukraine's oligarchs, Poroshenko, who became a president 2 months later, proudly was saying that he paid for all this. Ukrainian oligarchs and some American money have paid for 24/7 food and toilets with heating during winter, weapons and military helmets for protestors in Kiev. Later the first blood appeared, when Ukrainian policemen, who were used to brutally supress Crimea's Tatar and Russian protests for indepdendence from Ukraine (1994-2013), brutally supressed and killed now Ukrainians themselves in Kiev. Yes, that's right, Ukrainian policemen who killed people in Kiev, this exact special police unit, were the same Ukrainian policemen who were brutally supressing Russian and Tatar protests in Crimea that occured in Crimea 1994-2013. Also Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, because in post Soviet countries naz%s are very healthy strong men who want a fight, and during this protests Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, so naz% squads were also fighting police. Later protestors just started to kill policemen with molotov coktails, captured state buildings and president flee from Ukraine to only country he can flee - Russia. After this Russian troops came to Crimea.
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@markmackan3274 the president was overthrown, he was forced to leave, and there was no vote, he wasn't voted out. No matter how bad Yanukovich was, instead of making a coup, Ukrainian people could have just elected different president in upcoming election in may 2014. But instead they made a coup, and Russia as an answer played a reverse UNO card in Crimea and Donbass. None of this could have happened if Ukrainians used a legal procedure to choose a better president 2 months after. But in fact it is not Ukrainian people who did this.
Ukraine as a state is oligarchy, which means that all political parties and media in Ukraine is ruled or lobbied by oligarchs. Before 2014, Russia and European Union were economically competing over Ukraine, so Ukrainian economic elites, oligarchs, divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian, and Ukrainian political parties, mass media and people divided into pro-Western and pro-Russian. President Yanukovich wasn't pro-Russian, in fact he was trying to balance between Russia and European Union, but Russian economic influence was very big, it was bigger than European. So when Yanukovich wanted to sign a deal with European Union, Russia started to threat Ukraine with trade tariffs, and Yanukovich was forced to NOT sign a deal with European Union. This provoked massive pro-Western protests in Kiev in the first place, and originally Ukrainian oligarchs have paid poor students to came to protests and oligarch-controlled mass media escalated the protests. In 2013 America have bought 99% share of Ukrainian Novatek company, basically America simply bought Russian gas pipeline in Ukraine. Also Shell corporation had plans to extract Ukrainian gas to replace Russian gas and they signed few contracts. Later American money, American media and even American politicians helped the protests - in december 2013 senator John McCain came to Kiev, he gave an inspiring speech in front of protestors. What American senator forgot in another country, thousands of kilometers from his homeland, giving an inspiring speech to protesters who want to overthrow the government and take power? Later, in january 2014 the head of American State Department, Victoria Nuland, came to Ukraine, she talked with Ukrainian politicians in charge of protests, also gave an inspiring speech to people, and gave famous cookies to protestors. And again a question rises - what American senator and head of state department were doing in Kiev during revolution? Just imagine a situation, that during a January 6th 2021 protests in USA, Russian foreign minister Lavrov comes to Washington, talks with Trump, gives a speech to protestors, gives them cookies, and later protestors storm Capitoli, Senate and White House and overthrow Biden. This is what happened in Ukraine.
Also, Ukrainian oligarchs paid money for 24/7 toilets, 24/7 food, Molotov coktails, weapons and even military helmets to protestors, and one of Ukraine's oligarchs, Poroshenko, who became a president 2 months later, proudly was saying that he paid for all this. Ukrainian oligarchs and some American money have paid for 24/7 food and toilets with heating during winter, weapons and military helmets for protestors in Kiev. Later the first blood appeared, when Ukrainian policemen, who were used to brutally supress Crimea's Tatar and Russian protests for indepdendence from Ukraine (1994-2013), brutally supressed and killed now Ukrainians themselves in Kiev. Yes, that's right, Ukrainian policemen who killed people in Kiev, this exact special police unit, were the same Ukrainian policemen who were brutally supressing Russian and Tatar protests in Crimea that occured in Crimea 1994-2013. Also Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, because in post Soviet countries naz%s are very healthy strong men who want a fight, and during this protests Ukrainian oligarchs paid money to naz%s, so naz% squads were also fighting police. Later protestors just started to kill policemen with molotov coktails, captured state buildings and president flee from Ukraine to only country he can flee - Russia. After this Russian troops came to Crimea.
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