Comments by "Halfdan Ingolfsson" (@Halli50) on "The Damage Report"
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This attitude is what will cause the US as we have known it to disintegrate within a decade: We are FINALLY rid of Trump, no further worries until the end of time!
The problem: The corrupt and psychopathic monsters that make up the Repugnican Party leadership is still in place, well versed in gerrymandering, voter suppression and all the tricks-of-the-corrupt-politics trade they have been fine-tuning these past 40 years. Before you know it, the Repugnicans will have found another Fascist wannabe autocrat that will NOT be as blatantly incompetent as Trump turned out to be. You got away from the Trump disaster by the skin of your teeth, you will NOT be as lucky the next time around!
Your only hope is to thoroughly investigate and prosecute Trump and his closes cronies for the crimes they have been committing in plain sight these past 4 years. You have to expose and root out all the Trump enablers, Repugnicans and Corporate Democraps alike, and punish them in the most cruel way possible, if only to lash out at and eliminate the power-crazed politicians that were instrumental in causing the deaths of all the Covid victims so far, now approaching 1/3rd of a million, a death toll that will probably exceed half a million before the pandemic is finally brought under control
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The label put on any given method of governance is meaningless. The results are what matters.
The US has been running on unbridled capitalism for decades, at least since at least the Reagan era, and just look at the results.
The USSR ran authoritarianism under the communist label, and just where did THAT end?
North Europe, especially the Nordic countries, have been running under a rather misleading "social democracy" label. What they have is mixed economies, where capitalists have a lot of freedom while governments have taken care to rein them in to the extent that the general population is doing FAR better than the US population. The irony is that the US actually pioneered many, if not most of the ides Europe is using now. European countries have developed and evolved these ideas with varying success between nations, but the fact remains that European populations, especially in Norther Europe, are vastly better off than the population of the US.
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It is hardly a matter of serious dispute that the Nordic countries are currently the most successful in providing prosperity and security to their general public while also allowing entrepreneurial people to flourish and reap the benefits of their contribution. They usually call it social democracy themselves, but in reality it is simply a mixed economy where capitalists can thrive without being allowed to screw everyone else over. Some functions are handled by the government, like the police, fire departments, health care, education and social safety nets. While we have to be ever vigilant to keep out corruption, it WORKS, period.
It is astounding how the US seems to be unable to study and understand what works and what does not work in the Nordic countries, and constantly try to flip from one extreme to another. After all, almost all the ideas the Nordic countries are using - with fairly good success - were pioneered in the US at one time or another.
You should NOT try to eliminate capitalism, just rein it in and make sure you have what a wise man called "compassionate capitalism".
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Is Trump a Genius Media Manipulator? Who knows - he is just traveling where no other public figure has dared to travel before. Normally, public figures care about what they say in public but Trump has absolutely no shame; He will say something outrageously stupid and untrue on camera and, 5 minutes later, he will unabashedly declare "I never said that!". The masterful part is the simple fact that the bloody stupid reporters will breathlessly chase the outrageously stupid and untrue nonsense, and waste a lot of time making fools of themselves. Meanwhile, Trump will have been in the spotlight the entire time. True, he has been is the spotlight as a lying idiot, but by simply throwing out another ridiculous stink-bomb, Trump manages to shamelessly distract from the first outrageously stupid and untrue nonsense and, through the entire process he has continued to stay in the limelight. The old adage: There is no bad press, there is just PRESS -time in the limelight!
The worst part: The US public appears to be stupid enough to swallow this spiel, hook, line and sinker!
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Tomandtob , you are probably right that the media in every country laments their own dead while making little of other deaths (e.g. the media in Islamic countries do not lament the death of "infidels"), but I find the US media more than a bit over the top, for a western nation, when it comes to this issue while hardly mentioning the hundreds of thousands of e.g. Iraqi and Afghan civilians that have died in these conflicts. The European media do this to some extent as well, but they are not nearly as bad.
I HAVE traveled quite a bit. Apart from regular traveling to many countries for my own pleasure, I spent around 2 years in a war zone in the early nineties (Angola) flying for the ICRC, as well as a year in Yemen (flying for oil companies) when they were finally mending after a long civil war between the North and the South. Now they are a disaster zone, AGAIN, even worse than before!
You are right that there are absolutely no "good guys" in any conflict, and that includes the superpowers that used to have their fingers in every pie (the US and the USSR). I truly hope that you are right in that the "defend corporate interests" model has died, but the evidence says otherwise. It may be the Trumpzis that are pretending to "spread democracy" these days but, while it IS a sad joke, Trump is a very recent (and hopefully short-lived) phenomenon. The US's direct and indirect military involvement in conflicts all over the world during the last 50-60 years has sometimes been benign but frequently quite sinister, especially when dictators and despots in South America have been endlessly propped up.
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I cannot help wondering if 'Muricans might be unnecessarily seeing racism in every corner, in every imagined slight. Sharon Osbourne's apparent racist comments went over my head. What did she say,exactly? What did she MEAN, exactly?
I am patently ill-equipped to have a meaningful opinion on racial problems, having lived most of my life in a homogeneous country that is only in recent decades experiencing a significant influx of non-white immigrants. In my experience, immigrants have two arms, two legs and head with a brain fitted on top, just like we all do (not to mention whatever passion that drove them to end up seeking asylum in our incredibly inhospitable environment). The color of the immigrant's skin is absolutely, totally irrelevant - in fact I believe my somewhat inbred countrymen could use some influx of a free, permanent tan in upcoming generations, not to mention new culinary and cultural insights. In my opinion, colored immigrants have only improved my society. Long live the difference!
What should I, a Nordic, think of e.g. Francesca? She has a permanent tan and brown eyes, apparently an unforgivable genetic fault according to rabid white supremacists. Virtually a Latina - heck, she's probably of Italian descent, how Latino (Roman) can you get? Latin was the original language of Roman Italy!
Personally, I find her very pretty, extremely intelligent and with a killer sense of humor that will keep boredom at bay under any circumstances. A boon to any society she lives in but apparently a blight to some 'Muricans.
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D Casey , my country is not necessarily beautiful - right now we're having a blizzard, the snow is 6 feet deep, avalanche warnings are afoot and nobody is going anywhere, but in the current circumstances that is not a bad thing. Temporary isolation is nothing new to us, so we are weathering this quite well. I am actually looking forward to some fabulous skiing in a couple of days, once we have dug out our ski lifts after the storm!
The sense of community we have might be what you would call "beautiful". I am 70, divorced and once I had to retire (airline pilot, put to pasture at 65) I moved in with my parents! My mother is 88, quite senile and currently hospitalized (since December 31, 2019) but coming around splendidly. My father (now 92) is a bit restless because the hospital imposed a visiting ban due to the Corona Virus pandemic, and he has not been able to visit the love of his life in over a week! Watching the wrinkly old turtledoves really gives life a deeper meaning!
The best thing (by your yardstick, I imagine) is the fact that there are NO hospital or health care bills! My parents have prepaid the whole thing with a lifetime of taxes that have turned out to be no more exorbitant than what you are paying in the US.
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@8645-l4v , a very valid point. I suspect Marine One does not have an APU, it is a very solid but ancient model, but I simply do not know. The chopper-talk setting is, however, very well suited to the Trump script: He can ignore questions he does not like (pretending he did not hear them) and he can simply walk away any time he wants to. His rambling, jumping to another subject in the middle of a sentence, is very telling. This man is not all right in the head, and he is supposed to be the leader of "the free world"! Well, apparently the "free world" is about to move ahead, leaving the US behind...
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