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Comments by "Terry Jago" (@terryj50) on "James O'Brien tries to find out what a Brexit voter thinks they voted for | LBC" video.
I’m sure it was the same when the USA wanted independence from the uk. As an American we wanted our country so did the Brits. If they all thought like you we would no have our independence now.
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@markshirley01 in the USA we would not allow another country to control our immigration. We also for sure would not give anyone welfare unless they became a citizen and paid in.
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@welshgit nafta does not allow freedom of movement nor does it allow Canada or Mexico to control its borders. The eu controlled the uks borders so no it was not independent. The USA would never allow people to come to the USA for the sake of it. That was the main issue with the uk the uk needs migration like the USA but it should control it.
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@markshirley01 brown skilled people don’t come from the eu white people do, I think your also find brexit has not stopped migration. The uk had 1.2 million move to the uk this year alone. The difference is they pay for visas and the nhs surcharge now where as the white people from the eu paid nothing.
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@hywelfinden-browne1708 I take it you never saw Cameron go to the eu then before brexit and ask to control your borders and the eu said no. As an American even I know that.
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@markshirley01 the reason people care about migration now is because it affects white eu people funny how remainers did not stick up for Brown people before brexit.
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@markshirley01 so the uk could stop freedom of movement then? Funny that one of the things the uk wanted to do was to make sure all eu people were treated the same as none eu people. Ie that they paid in and we’re not entitled to any bens for 5 years and the eu said no. If the uk controlled everything why could they not make this happen.
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@markwelch3564 that is totally untrue, go look it up i am an American and I can see that is not true. How can a person from the eu live in minimum wage with no top ups.
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@markwelch3564 and yet the eu said no to the uk, why do you choose not to read what I posted it’s from your bbc.
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@markwelch3564 when you treat your own people worse than another person from the eu then you will get issues, I remember a Brit mate tell me in hk I have eu on my passport but when I move home my Japanese wife will need, English tests a visa, pay for the nhs surcharge, where as my French mate will move with his Nigerian wife and they won’t need any visas. No nhs surcharge and have recourse to bens. That is wrong they you treated one eu person different to another. If you don’t see that then there is something wrong. In the USA we will not allow a us citizen to be treated worse than the French, Germany, British. Person. Why do you vote to make yourselfs 2nd class citizens in your own country.
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@markwelch3564 On in-work benefits: The Council would authorise that Member State to limit the access of newly arriving EU workers to non-contributory in-work benefits for a total period of up to four years from the commencement of employment. The limitation should be graduated, from an initial complete exclusion but gradually increasing access to such benefits to take account of the growing connection of the worker with the labour market of the host Member State. The authorisation would have a limited duration and apply to EU workers newly arriving during a period of 7 years.
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@markwelch3564 On child benefit: A proposal to amend Regulation (EC) No 883/2004 of the European Parliament and of the Council on the coordination of social security systems in order to give Member States, with regard to the exportation of child benefits to a Member State other than that where the worker resides, an option to index such benefits to the conditions of the Member State where the child resides. This should apply only to new claims made by EU workers in the host Member State. However, as from 1 January 2020, all Member States may extend indexation to existing claims to child benefits already exported by EU workers. The Commission does not intend to propose that the future system of optional indexation of child benefits be extended to other types of exportable benefits, such as old-age pensions;
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@markwelch3564 funny how the eu said no to treating eu citizens the same as everyone else hey.
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@welshgit What the draft deal said:"[New legislation will] provide for an alert and safeguard mechanism that responds to situations of inflows of workers from other member states of an exceptional magnitude over an extended period of time… the implementing act would authorise the member state to limit the access of union workers newly entering its labour market to in-work benefits for a total of up to four years from the commencement of employment."
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@welshgit What the final deal said: On in-work benefits: The Council would authorise that Member State to limit the access of newly arriving EU workers to non-contributory in-work benefits for a total period of up to four years from the commencement of employment. The limitation should be graduated, from an initial complete exclusion but gradually increasing access to such benefits to take account of the growing connection of the worker with the labour market of the host Member State. The authorisation would have a limited duration and apply to EU workers newly arriving during a period of 7 years.
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@welshgit On child benefit: A proposal to amend Regulation (EC) No 883/2004 of the European Parliament and of the Council on the coordination of social security systems in order to give Member States, with regard to the exportation of child benefits to a Member State other than that where the worker resides, an option to index such benefits to the conditions of the Member State where the child resides. This should apply only to new claims made by EU workers in the host Member State. However, as from 1 January 2020, all Member States may extend indexation to existing claims to child benefits already exported by EU workers. The Commission does not intend to propose that the future system of optional indexation of child benefits be extended to other types of exportable benefits, such as old-age pensions;
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@welshgit maybe try reading this from the bbc not the guardian, I’m American and I can see the eu took you for a ride on the promise you uneducated Brits will get to retire in Spain. You do know to work in most eu countries you need to know the lingo that puts most of you Brits out of work there and they won’t allow you to claim bens. So you lost the fom that most of you cannot use anyway. What to treat eu people better than your own people. Really who would vote for that.
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@welshgit you might actually want to go and read the bbc you were not independent in the control of immigration hence why the eu said no to all of what Cameron asked for. You could not treat eu citizens the same as non eu citizens.
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@welshgit so let me get this straight the uk is now the same as the other 180 countries in the world for immigration that are not in the eu. Yet the only country in the world for wanting to be like 180 countries is now jingoistic. Can I ask why the other 180 countries in the world are not? Can I also ask why you think 26 white eu countries should be treated better than the other 180 countries in the world. Can I also ask why you think it’s right to treat British citizens worse than eu citizens coming back to their own country. All because you want the fom that you will never use.
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