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Comments by "Adam Bainbridge" (@AdamMGTF) on "H&K P7 Family: Pistols for Gun Cognoscenti" video.
@DPham1 I think a lot of it is just down to history. I can understand the idea that if someone else has something in their pocket that can kill me by pressing a button (or trigger). Then I want one too. That I guess is much as you say.... Human nature. The difference here in the UK and I'd say most of the "western" world, is that there is almost zero chance that anyone around you has a kill button. Therefore it's not rational to want one yourself. Much in the way that a country with no real enemies, such as Switzerland or Iceland. Don't feel the need to have large armed forces and weapons of mass destruction. There is no "other guy" to be worried about. It's why I can see the argument both ways for people in the USA. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Vast amounts of firearms are in the hands of the public. Sadly vast amounts are in the hands of criminals. They are easy to get (I say that relatively and understanding there are exceptions to the rule). So can the situation really be changed?... Not without overwhelming popular support. As a thought exercise..... It would be worrying to think what would actually happen if 95% of Americans say "we live in a republic. We don't want guns anywhere but in the hands of the armed forces and where needed, the police. Therefore we vote to have all firearms bought by the government and melted down and recycled." The question then is. What do the 5% do. Some, no doubt would agree that rule by popular consent is the best form of government (and one Americans are proud is very much a core part of 'America'.). They'd see it as the law like any other they don't like following (such as paying taxes) and comply. The scary thing would be the remaining people who can't rationalise the situation and believe they are outside of the law. Much like dealers of drugs know it's illigal to possess and sell drugs. But do so anyway. Given this 'group' have (by definition) weapons that are designed to make it as easy as possible to kill people. Then you have a situation which I am not sure has ever happened before in human history. Have small groups who's activity was legal had their activities made illigal. Sure. It happens rarely in democratic countries. But it does happen. For example, opium was legal to buy and take in the UK until the 20th century. But opium addicts and pharmacy owners couldnt use opium to fight the majority.... I just find it interesting. I can't see that situation ever coming to pass. But it's the sort of thing we used to talk about in college when I studied law. Your reply was also interesting. I haven't read that book. What's it about?
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@Shawn_the_Protogen thanks for the reply Shawn. But I'm still puzzled. So you carry all of them but it's how you carry them? Like it dictates what box you store them in? I promise I'm not stupid. It's just a foreign concept (literally) to me 🤔
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@Shawn_the_Protogen @Shawn_Wolf_2727 like given. Info on predaters does make sense. But I guess what is confusing for the likes of myself is that if I woke up at 3am and some carrier hardened criminal was in my house. I would never ever think (even in blind panic) that the said criminal would have a gun of some kind. I guess that's why it's difficult for none Americans*. Bad way of saying that...... But what I mean is that I could never imagine wanting to have a gun to kill a criminal who meant me harm; because he/she had a gun and wanted to kill me. *I definitely don't mean that as a sweeping statement. It's just that I've traveled around Europe, north Africa, the near East and far east and their laws and customs are similar to here in the UK. In that if you walked around with a gun then you would be imprisoned.... Obviously in the counties I've visited I'm talking about stable governments. Also. My visits to the USA (NY being my favourite) did allow me to see your police and armed forces carrying guns. This was a culture shock to me and my travelling companions. But we never thought the law enforcement officers hard to carry guns, because all the people around us had guns too.... My Mind blown You've really got me interested in this topic. My final paper at university was on domestic violence. I don't enjoy studying violence. But I do wonder.... The people you know Shawn and other commentators on this thread... Do you really walk around with a gun in your pocket?(sorry to keep asking, please understand that it is totally inconceivable in the UK). If you do. Why? And would you feel safer say here in England if you didn't have your gun? Thank you again @Shawn_Wolf_2727 this conversation has helped me learn so much! Best wishes. AB
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Could anyone please explain to a humble Englishman. What a "carry gun" is. I assumed all guns were carried unless mounted to a vehicle or a stand of some kind. But now I'm sure I'm wrong.
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@Shawn_the_Protogen thanks again for replying. It's nice to see someone online that will take time to reply and educate. Rather than just ridicule or dismiss someone wanting to learn! So am I undertanding correctly. That anyone can walk around in public with a gun? As in a real gun. Not a BB gun or a paintball gun. But a gun with bullets that are made to kill people? I know that criminals in Hollywood movies carry guns to beat the good guys. But is it actually legal for random people. Or like for police officers or something? Again. May seen obvious to you but over here in blighty. I'm fairly certain you can't walk around carrying a BB gun. In fact it's against the law to carry a knife in public (unless for a valid reason like your a delivery person and the knife is in a box 🤔). I think that's a recent law mind. Due to a huge rise in gang related attacks in our biggest cities, 15-20 years ago. I remember it on the news. Over 200 people were murdered in the UK by knives in the year. It was a big deal* Sorry to go off topic... I didn't want to get so serious/negative. Just interested in how you do things in America. I have no interest in knives btw 🤣. But history I love. Learning about guns is just another area I'm curious about. *I still worked in the NHS then. We were trained about increasing knife crime. It's still a problem. Averages around 300 people killed a year across England, Scotland, Wales and NI. if I remember rightly. :( Tragic :(
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@Shawn_the_Protogen wow. Mind blown. I can't imagine what it would be like. Knowing other people around you were carrying guns in their pockets. Like a wallet or phone. Is that because there are still dangerous areas in the states? Like mountain lions or bears or something? That you'd need to have a way of killing easily.
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