Comments by "worn down" (@worndown8280) on "Whatifalthist" channel.

  1. One thing with the Mouse Utopia experiment that he failed to do that should be tried. Is what if you took the mice who still were reproducing correctly and gave them an avenue of escape? Humans arent locked in a walled city. You see this time and again, peoples from civilizations that have collapsed escaped and rebuilt.
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  2. I think that starts with college/university. Kids going away from family for 4 years earning degrees. Then moving to other parts of the nation to work in their prospective fields after. Doesnt work long term for communities or family stability. Yours is a good observation.
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  3.  @-WarCriminal-22  In the US, the government very shorty (By 2040) is going to either default, stop paying social benefits or, most likely, print like mad to be able to continue social programs. Women will be hardest hit. Women and children, since they depend most of government handouts. As it is right now SSI will be cut by 22% in 2033. That alone will rip the country apart. I wonder what all those old injured combat vets from near 2 decades of war will do?
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  4. “I have urged our fellow Americans to go about their lives, to fly on airplanes, to travel, to go to work, and to go shopping.” -George Bush (After 9/11)
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  5.  @juniorjames7076  Rome came from the fall of Troy (per their legends) and that happened during the bronze age collapse. Rome, administratively, moved to Constantinople long before it was taken by the Lombards. Pick a civilization. There are few that ever were completely wiped out.
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  6.  @ladybug3380  You are probably correct in that assessment. But thats not what women say. Thats the problem with not meaning what you say and not saying what you man. Men typically go by what people say and do. They dont try to tease out deeper meaning. If there is a conflict, we often assume lying or some sort of deceit is taking place. If men need to adapt to women, women need to meet men halfway.
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  7. I am a Gen Xer as well. I was 5 when I saw the movie Kramer vs Kramer. That movie was a prophecy. Its forgotten today. But it showed what the future would be. Divorce, women finding themselves and living their "best lives", hookup culture, and eventually the destruction of the father son dynamic in America. The late 70s and early 80s wasnt as good as you remember. Not to mention, threat of nuclear war, acid rain, 18% inflation. Its always interesting how that sweet poison of nostalgia sweeps away much of the bad stuff.
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  8. Are there individuals who have this happen, yes. Are the majority due to things they cannot control, no. Most Americans dont even have $1000.00 in the bank, let alone 6 months savings that everyone should. That is a choice. Perhaps ones family isnt optimal, well get roommates. There are always options. If you think life is hard now, I mean this is peak humanity. Never has it been easier to be push or pulled from your mothers womb and to go through life and climb into a grave well past ones best years. For the modern American the first 20 years one is generally a dependent on your biological family. And when one turns 65, or now 67, you become a dependent of the state. So most will only need to be independent for what 30 odd years? And most Americans find some sort of system to pull their way through with minimal effort. Most people dont lack freedom. They lack any sense of personal responsibility.
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  9.  @ninamartin1084  The problem with that is you fast forward it 60 years and you find your population bottle necks. Women cannot have kids and be a good mother AND work full time. She cant be in two places at once. I think this is one of the main reasons so many women today, in the west, are utterly miserable. This typically means she has less children, below population restoration rates. And then after said 60 years your population starts declining. Slowly at first in some cases, dramatically in others, and then it implodes economically. Most of the world, in the next 20 years is going to face this very issue. Heck China alone is projected to loss 500 million in the next 20 years just due to aging. Economies wont be able to handle that change.
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  10. Thats because the year before, in 2007 a piece of technology came out that really changed the world landscape. Probably the most important invention socially since writing. That was the IPhone, but really any smart phone. Now an African living in the slum has access to the same information as a kid going to Harvard. And everyone has potential access to everyone. We still having socially adapted to it yet. I dont know if the human animal can honestly. We werent built to know that many people.
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  11.  @AJ-sw8uf  knowingly. With the increase levels of casual sex and unknown paternity, it is often the case that this happens, frequently without people knowing they are doing it. With increasing illegitimacy rates, and less than 50% of Black men in the US having children, a large portion of all Black children born are from a smaller and smaller pool of men. Those men being the men that women want. The eventuality is that incest will occur. And it will escalate, even if it is not intentional, via half brothers and half sisters interacting in the community. Its a dirty secret no one wants to talk about. But it is not intentional. Just the outcome of the breakdown of the Black family, the disempowerment of the black father, fathers in general, and an increase in sexual liberity.
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  12.  @sambo8218  basically what I did after my divorce. Me and the kids have never been happier.
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  13.  @belstar1128  I dont think people really understand the fertility rate collapse that has hit latin america. I mean when I was born in 1975 Mexican women were have 5 to 6 kids each. Now they dont even have 2. That same thing is repeated all through the Americas. I think there are only a few small countries that have positive fertility rates in the Americas.
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  14.  @evilds3261  thats irrelevant. Most men, autistic or not, dont know how to approach women, let alone other men and engage in conversations. And what makes it even worse is most women dont either. But at the end, you wont date anyone and you wont make any friends at all if you dont talk to people. Social interaction is key. When I was a young man in the long long ago, I always told my male friends that had issues, talk to the ugliest least attractive women you can think of. And then work your way up from there. And I told my female friends the same. I mean even in your statement you went straight to dating. Just try talking to people.
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  15. There are single moms and then there are divorced moms. The two arent the same. But yes in certain communities single moms are the norm. But they only exist because the government can afford deficit spending. As that fails, and it is starting to, all of those single moms and their offspring will starve. Women replaced husbands with Uncle Sam.
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  16.  @marcospaulo5390  The problem with that is the rate of change and the current debt load most of these nations have. Take Japan. In a few years its national debt will force a sovereign default. At that time, every Japanese person who is on any sort of social pension fund will lose access to their nationalized retirement fund and health care. And with no one to give them loans, because of the default, that means no energy that they buy on credit. So the country falls back into the medieval ages. This is going to happen to a lot of nations. And is one of the main reasons why Japan's political class agreed to the humiliating deal President Trump offered them and then when Biden was elected they told Biden that they were perfectly happy with it as well. This will happen to nation after nation and happened to several last year but people seem to have forgotten already. World economics is about to implode and folks dont understand that. Cities will be death traps. Like Rome when the dole was late. The cities will burn.
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  17.  @11235but  economies cannot adapt to decreasing demand, they just recede. More so when they are already spending everything they produce and then some because of the debt burden. First will come the massive defaults. Then the economic death spirals from the majority of nations that are export based. We have no economic theory on what is coming. But if you know of an economic theory that will guide us through all of this until reproduction rates increase, you should publish it. You would be guaranteed a Nobel Prize in Economics.
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  18. My physical therapist broke down the other day while working on my right shoulder, I have a rotator cuff tear. She said many of the same things you said and more. I think most people are maladapted due to multigenerational divorces, several social agendas that pit the sexes against one another and above all a fear that none of us is good enough. I truly feel bad for the younger generation. Every young lady I meet and ask out says yes. Most people are just starved for genuine affection.
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  19.  @Jaapst  I am glad you are doing better. But we typically do keep things to ourselves in most modern environments, and its not the healthiest thing to do. Its one of the side effects of men having no men only spaces anymore.
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  20. Embrace the suck. Through enduring we win. What do we win? Another day to embrace the suck. Eventually though you see the truth. Life isnt about yourself. Its about preparing the way for those who come after us. Doesnt even have to be about your kids. It could be your siblings kids or cousins, or even the community as a whole. Woe to those who have no one to come after them. For they are truly lost and without purpose.
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  21. Was there a decade ago. It was the best decision I never made. Sometimes a spouse leaving leads to all different possibilities. Take your time to heal and recover. Then find your path brother.
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  22.  @wheresmyeyebrow1608  I have visited PI several times while I was in the Marine Corps, and I also worked with a woman who grew up on a plantation in Mindanao. When she described how she grew up to other people they were like, you had slaves? And she was like no, my family was responsible for them. One of the things I discovered traveling is that the idiosyncrasies of different cultures are often lost on people who do not belong to them. The one commonality humans have is the ability to judge others harshly through our own limited world views who do not conform with our narrow beliefs. I wish you a good 2023.
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  23.  @peterwindhorst5775  those dont work. I mean with everyones birth rates dropping where do you get immigrants from? With debt piling up and less workers to pensioned people where do you get the money to give tax breaks for children? Not that giving people money to have kids has ever worked any place its been tried.
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  24.  @yaboi9419  its not the change thats the problem, its the demographic collapse that has happened since the end of the post war baby boom. As the boomers fall out, its going to get much smaller. If every nation didnt have a metric ton of debt, it wouldnt be an issue. But every nation does. And it will crush the young. So, their will be blood. The average South Korean woman has .5 kids. In Japan, its barely 1. Mexico has gone from 6 in 1975 to 1.9 kids per woman today. In the US, we are at 1.7 if you discount immigration. In China they cant get women to start having kids again. People dont see whats happening because people live 70 to 80 years, well we ate that delay up.
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  25.  @Nobody90019  Thats the ugly side of this whole issue. We do know why this is happening. So to fix it you just have to reverse it. I only know of a handful of people who openly talk about this. You want to get fertility rates back up, disempower women. Though I dont think its the empowerment that causes the underlying issue. I think its the relative difference between Men and Women . Women want a man who is much "better" than them as a mate. In modern context the better is largely economic. Feminism conflicts with this biological want.
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  26. A serious question, since, by your own words, you were hurt so bad, have you had any counseling?
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  27. If I may ask young man, how many women have you asked out?
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  28.  @Nykandros  Ironically, its modern day Russia. Its almost perfectly in the center of this.
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  29.  @joshuaortiz2031  Thats another thing, we have so many combat trained and experience troops running around as civilians now, well regardless of which side the active military sides with, there wont be enough of them to control major cities let alone outside them.
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  30.  @happygilmore1844  I didnt forget it. In fact thanks to the Visigoths Roman architecture lasted well into the Islamic ages in Iberia so much so that many Roman building techniques became to be viewed as "Islamic". People act like when peoples and civilizations come into contact that they dont exchange ideas and change. They always do. That typically makes most cultures better. It certainly is why Rome became so great. They copied the best everyone had. Only a fool wouldnt copy them.
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  31. Your fears of a coming fascism are well founded. In Germany, Nazis took power because of how the German people were economically mistreated by the treaty of Versailles, the brutality of the communist thugs in the streets pre nazi era and the social and sexual excessiveness of the Weimar era. All of those things are echoed in the current day here in the US. Fascism is more an allergic reaction to unchecked leftism. Unfortunately the left has never really understood this. They create the monster they fear by giving people no alternative. A figurative gun to the head. This was an excellent video.
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  32.  @yespls6260  I found it amusing when prognosticators thought that the pandemic would see an explosion in the birth rates. I was like, what world are you looking at? I am not sure what the answer is, but practice makes better. Keep socializing keep talking to people and be respectful. Thats what I tell my boys and my god daughters. So if you are trying, keep at it.
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  33. China's most recent numbers stat that they have overcounted births for the last 20 years. They could lose that "500 million" by 2050. This is per their own demographers. What is about to happen to China has not been seen in a nation since the Black Plague.
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  34. Self improvement is so important. A lot of men want to be accepted as they are. Thats just not how nature works. If men accepted that and put in more effort, many would excel. But most wont.
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  35.  @lukem21  You can say no. A lot of us do. But that requires a lot of blood and sweat. And double the amount of personal responsibility.
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  36.  @worldlinkk  it's not even about working harder. It's about being more competitive and being more productive. Some people just can't. And that's why we created a social welfare program. But then you have the people that won't. Those that won't are the problem.
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  37.  @skepticalextraterrestrial2971  one can imagine many things. Doesn't make them so.
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  38.  @worldlinkk  you would be incorrect in your worker productivity estimation. The US isn't even in the top 5. Imagine all the other faulty assumptions I can find in the rest of your post.
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  39.  @skepticalextraterrestrial2971  I suppose your comment is too.
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  40. Feminism was started by the Quakers, Look up the Seneca Falls convention. Many women are bitter because feminism lied to them and they know they cant go back. They cant undo toxic relationships, they cant undo one night stands and they cant undo the myriad of other bad choices they made. We, as in society, lie to women from the moment they step into Kindergarten. Is it any wonder why so many are bitter, angry and on large amounts of head meds. Unfortunately men cant fix this. Women have to be the ones to fix it. But I honestly dont they they are capable of doing it.
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  41.  @Mugwortcircle  Which was my point. The issue once seen, was quickly resolved. At the time it seemed a catastrophe. And yet today, as you say, bs. Much of the issues of today are the same.
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  42.  @ShaneBraaten  You mean like those guys in New York City? Anytime a man does, he is punished by the force of government. Men understand that now. Thats why you had that woman get raped on the subway in Philadelphia while people watched. Men understand now. No one is going to protect women.
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  43.  @11235but  tell me you don't understand economics without saying you don't understand economics. Lol
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  44.  @11235but  I know you dont understand basic economic theory. You can deflect all you like.
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  45. Rome could have lasted indefinitely had no other groups came along to pull its rotting bones down. Who will pull America down? There is no one. Not to mention global demography being what it is. America and Rome may share the same paths, but the worlds they are in are much much different.
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  46. “You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.” Ronald Reagan: from his "A Time for Choosing" speech We have been on this course for a long long time.
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  47.  @alexandrabellerose3550  I retired at 45.I dont have millions. I live a small quiet rural life with my sons. Convinced my brother and my elderly mom to move here too. I have acres I farm with animals enough for all of us to eat and a little to sell to neighbors. My brother works a local job for have the wage he got from where he came and at the end of the month he has 3 times the money left over after bill. My mother, being elderly gets SSI, which will be cut 20 odd percent in 2033. This farm is my retirement plan. Family. Even if I dont get a cent from SSI. I have my own investments and the pittance the VA as well, as three pensions from companies I have worked for. But take all that away, and i can still farm. And we might be poor, but we will be fine. Individuals will not be able to navigate whats coming. Families will. Unfortunately many families lack the social cohesion to be functional. Get your family together, go find some cheap farm land and learn about it. Make it a fall back point. Just make sure is more than a 3 days walk from any major city. If your family is non functional find a friend whose family is and try to hang on to them. But if something like this happens the economy will fall apart and be rebuilt in local communities established more on trust and a mans word. It wont be some asshole at a nameless back you are fucking over if you dont pay what you own, it could be the family of the boy your daughter wants to marry. That changes how people act. But most of all, people are going to have to start living smaller again. And the little things that most people ignore today will be the very things that carry them through hardships.
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  48.  @phoenixtoash2396  I'm not sure what you mean by "we". But I won't starve, I'm a farmer.
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  49. This is a "community" problem. You want people to pair up, they really have to know each other. They have to spend time with each other, like in elementary, middle and high school. They get to know each other. Or before there were schools working and playing together as young people. But then modern society explodes those communities and people go all over the country to other schools to get even more education, work or military service. Our current society is set up destroys communities. And it destroys those ties that bind us together. All for the hope of a few bucks more. Only when people are older do they really understand that. And then its to late.
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  50.  @josephhoward4697  Oh I dont disagree with you there. The main issue is that without a growing population our current economic theories fall apart, or at least current investment philosophies. Its not really an issue that we have ever faced. Even during the Black Death, women still had babies. Now they just wont, with a few notable nations that are exceptions.
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