Comments by "Herp Derp" (@herpderp1662) on "Urban Combat Survival CQB and Room Clearing. Urban Survival Part 2" video.
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In guam we used to play "my military unit" against the local swat team, and the defender having knowledge about room clearing is actually a HUGE disadvantage for those clearing the room. They are predictable, they follow their training to a T, and do very specific things. For example the left right left right entry, where they stand outside the rooms, and how they move around the kill cone. We very often could take out their entire team by taking advantage of that. 9 times out of every 10 if the room defender knows how to clear a room, the team CLEARING the room are always at a disadvantage with one exception, element of surprise. Now if your engaging a bunch of untrained terry morons? Sure, they will be completely overwhelmed and supressed by those clearing the room. Ive taken every possible CQB course the military offered, and several in the civi world, pro tip, dont "go through the motions" like a robot. Because if your enemy also knows the tactics used by a CQB combatant you WILL lose. So we had to actually stop using tactics vs tactics in the games, because almost every time the defenders would win. But if we used the CQB tactics against teams that DONT know what to do, the attacking team would almost always win.
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@kovona are you speaking in terms of airsoft? Or real life. Because in real life they are WAY easier to beat if you know what the tactics are and how they work, the routines they use, the "motions" they go through, and how their going to react to certain things in response to you. For example. Breaching always has the team all packed into one area, usually all facing the same way except for the rear guard, and all on one side of a hall, or against a wall so they can maximize speed and efficiency while entering. Each going in to cover their designated sweeping area. Each person that goes in has a "section" of the room they look too first to clear. The following person will always choose the opposite area to the previous etc. But lets pretend for a moment they attacked my home. You know your home best. They generally try to do home raids at times when your asleep so you cant b3 waiting for them, and heres the MAIN reason why. Just about every rifle round that exists will wizz right through an entire house like a wet paper bag. So if you were prepared and waiting, the most effective method is knowing where they are and simply firing through the walls. I have survailance that is solar powered to a LAN network, so they cant just chop my power and barge in. I would know exactly where they were at all times. And just wait for them to attempt a breach. Very rarely do they do that window bullshit, that requires a helocopter and or easy QUIET roof access. Thats mainly hollywood nonsense. My house is hardened specifically against these types of techniques. Reinforced doors that REQUIRE a blast charge, shatter proof film on the windows, and "surprises" placed under the siding on the house near entry points, triggered remotelly. I have better gear now than I ever did in the military, so if they made a single oopsy poopsy and didnt manage to get a perfect surprise drop its all staged in the house to be equiped in a couple minutes. Full armor, gas mask, choice of NVG or Thermals, helmet, peltier muffs. Hell I could pop smoke in the basement and make it hell for them. Most swat teams dont carry thermal, only NVG. NVG doesnt work in smoke. Teargas, wont work. Flashbang. Wont work. When you have your gear on they can go off a foot from you and it does nothing. I could prattle all day, but moral of the story is these tactics rely MAINLY on stealth and speed. If they are faced with direct opposition, or worse..... someone who is literally WAITING for them, they get massacred. Read up on anti ambush tactics, how guys were trained in places like mountain areas in iraq, dealing with squads are similar to that. These things are very rock paper scissors when face to face, but its heavily dependent on situation. Who got the drop on who, and who reacts in the right way the fastest. And a bit of luck. All it takes is for the rookie of their squad to have a negligent discharge into your house and it just so happens to fly through the house and hit you in the eye in your well prepared defense possition by pure luck. When going up against someone who knows what your going to do next, you have to either be better than them, or switch it up. I know whos comming into the room, which way their rifles will be pointed, which way they walk and turn, which way the next guys looking, how many stay behind, why their out there, and most importantly what they do in response to a direct threat. What they do in response to an overwhelming threat. What they do in case of man down, or squad down etc etc. Think of it this way. Its like hunting, and im leading the target. An untrained person is trailing the target. A trained person is on target. A trained person who knows exactly what your about to do next is leading the target. Best methods. Entry points are "killzones" they will avoid being in them at all costs. Try to get in close, and always try to be at an angle so not the entire squad can engage you at once. Danger close causes confusion and hesitation, the equipment they have on doesnt make them invincible. Shotguns, or anything with a high rate of fire is best here. Remember their legs, crotch, feet and arms arent protected, nor is the face. Goggles and gas masks dont stop rounds. So dont be like the dumb bad guys hidden behind a couch well within the room. Pre emptive attacks are best, but if your on defense then getting as close as possible is best. Deny access to the room if possible and keep them bunched up. Most people dont have explosives but here is where they end the conflict effectivelly. Like i said we can speculate, but unless you gave me a scenario with exact perameters I cant tell you how every situation would go down or what best to do. Train. Run courses. Get familiar with CQC. Personally im the Jerry Miculek type, I can hit 6 tiny targets before most people even got the gun out of their holster. But heres probably the best advice of all. Just dont be the guy whos on their radar to raid and you will never have to test whos better.
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In guam we used to play "my military unit" against the local swat team, and the defender having knowledge about room clearing is actually a HUGE disadvantage for those clearing the room. They are predictable, they follow their training to a T, and do very specific things. For example the left right left right entry, where they stand outside the rooms, and how they move around the kill cone. We very often could take out their entire team by taking advantage of that. 9 times out of every 10 if the room defender knows how to clear a room, the team CLEARING the room are always at a disadvantage with one exception, element of surprise. Now if your engaging a bunch of untrained terry morons? Sure, they will be completely overwhelmed and supressed by those clearing the room. Ive taken every possible CQB course the military offered, and several in the civi world, pro tip, dont "go through the motions" like a robot. Because if your enemy also knows the tactics used by a CQB combatant you WILL lose. So we had to actually stop using tactics vs tactics in the games, because almost every time the defenders would win. But if we used the CQB tactics against teams that DONT know what to do, the attacking team would almost always win.
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In guam we used to play "my military unit" against the local swat team, and the defender having knowledge about room clearing is actually a HUGE disadvantage for those clearing the room. They are predictable, they follow their training to a T, and do very specific things. For example the left right left right entry, where they stand outside the rooms, and how they move around the kill cone. We very often could take out their entire team by taking advantage of that. 9 times out of every 10 if the room defender knows how to clear a room, the team CLEARING the room are always at a disadvantage with one exception, element of surprise. Now if your engaging a bunch of untrained terry morons? Sure, they will be completely overwhelmed and supressed by those clearing the room. Ive taken every possible CQB course the military offered, and several in the civi world, pro tip, dont "go through the motions" like a robot. Because if your enemy also knows the tactics used by a CQB combatant you WILL lose. So we had to actually stop using tactics vs tactics in the games, because almost every time the defenders would win. But if we used the CQB tactics against teams that DONT know what to do, the attacking team would almost always win.
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In guam we used to play "my military unit" against the local swat team, and the defender having knowledge about room clearing is actually a HUGE disadvantage for those clearing the room. They are predictable, they follow their training to a T, and do very specific things. For example the left right left right entry, where they stand outside the rooms, and how they move around the kill cone. We very often could take out their entire team by taking advantage of that. 9 times out of every 10 if the room defender knows how to clear a room, the team CLEARING the room are always at a disadvantage with one exception, element of surprise. Now if your engaging a bunch of untrained terry morons? Sure, they will be completely overwhelmed and supressed by those clearing the room. Ive taken every possible CQB course the military offered, and several in the civi world, pro tip, dont "go through the motions" like a robot. Because if your enemy also knows the tactics used by a CQB combatant you WILL lose. So we had to actually stop using tactics vs tactics in the games, because almost every time the defenders would win. But if we used the CQB tactics against teams that DONT know what to do, the attacking team would almost always win.
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In guam we used to play "my military unit" against the local swat team, and the defender having knowledge about room clearing is actually a HUGE disadvantage for those clearing the room. They are predictable, they follow their training to a T, and do very specific things. For example the left right left right entry, where they stand outside the rooms, and how they move around the kill cone. We very often could take out their entire team by taking advantage of that. 9 times out of every 10 if the room defender knows how to clear a room, the team CLEARING the room are always at a disadvantage with one exception, element of surprise. Now if your engaging a bunch of untrained terry morons? Sure, they will be completely overwhelmed and supressed by those clearing the room. Ive taken every possible CQB course the military offered, and several in the civi world, pro tip, dont "go through the motions" like a robot. Because if your enemy also knows the tactics used by a CQB combatant you WILL lose. So we had to actually stop using tactics vs tactics in the games, because almost every time the defenders would win. But if we used the CQB tactics against teams that DONT know what to do, the attacking team would almost always win.
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