Comments by "Jim Mcneal" (@jimmcneal5292) on "Sabine Hossenfelder" channel.

  1. 1) you're right that "many observers unlikely -> multiverse unlikely" is a faulty logic. 2)The fact that optimal lambda is 400 times higher than in our universe is still useless because we don't know how the probability of lambda being a specific value is distributed(i.e. maybe 400x from our value is not that far). Thus the only thing we can conclude is that it isn't optimal in our universe, nothing more.
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  2. Greenpeace is still against nuclear energy in 2025😂
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  3.  @adamk.7177  imagine being so woke🤦‍♂
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  4. If normal meat is prohibited, I'm switching to a human one
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  5.  @PrajwalDSouza  No, there's no aspect of responsibility. If you say "I agree with global warming theory but have questions to climate scientists because of inconsistencies here, here and here" and some not very smart person later says "muh, this guy denies global warming and he's smart" it's not you who are the problem, it's the aforementioned not very smart guy
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  6. Yep, this guy gonna be seething🤣🤣🤣
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  7. But it's false
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  8.  @PrajwalDSouza  they were not made to appeal to science deniers, actually clickbait can't appeal to anyone, it can only grab attention. Only the contents of the videos can
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  9. Based
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  10. Tbf buying an electric car is super meh advice, especially now
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  11. There's no way to rapidly reach net zero, it's just unachievable. For 40 years the only option to do it — nuclear industry, was underdeveloped and overregulated. We may change policies now, but results won't be immediate
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  12. It's not even close to be hopeless. Uncomfortable? Yes. But not hopeless
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  13. Why?
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  14. Dude, for most of history polygamy was the accepted norm, especially for high-status men
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  15. Yes, but how probable is that it will happen in the next few hundred years?
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  16. Dude, solar power is having EROI of 5 or so. It's barely enough to justify manufacturing
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  17. Well, he is wrong, the opposite is true
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  18. So basically this scientist did a good thing, demonstrating how so-called 'scientific consensus' about global warming is made. Because of politization of this issue we can't really know how bad it even actually is, or if it is accelerating or slowing.
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  19. Completely true
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  20. AI self-deletion🤣
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  21. The problem with solar panels is that they almost don't produce energy because of low EROI, so no, putting a lot of them won't do much
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  22.  @c.augustin  such a nonsensical comment
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  23. From what I remember the energy requirement for warp was lowered to around 700kg(with negative energy), which is a lot, but feasible even for our civilization. Would be interesting to know how much of a gravitational wave such warp drive would produce
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  24. Their political leaning is modernist(except maybe for Eysenck test), since there's basically no way to represent traditionalists there(or they are grouped with someone else who's very different from them).
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  25.  @Diamonddogusa  it can be made a science, but people usually don't try to apply scientific principles
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  26.  @alansmithee419  it "doesn't work" because now it mostly consists of psychological therapy. Not surprising -- try treating schizophrenia in such way, there'll be no effect too. And while yes, we can't re-wire brain(for now), surgical(either on brain or on gonads) and chemical therapy would almost certainly work
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  27. ​ @cmar6461  bruh, AI fanboys here, insufferable as all fanboys🤦🏻‍♂️
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  28. I initially thought they meant AI James Bond😅
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  29. ​ @JohnCena-yu4mj because they won't listen. Their goal is to publish paper and get cited a lot, not reach actual truth
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  30. ​ @complex_vector  america has less emissions than china. India will also have more than US in a couple of decades, maybe even in 10 years
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  31. cringe comment
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  32. We had the technology and could have been continuing building nuclear stations for 40 years(since 1986) instead of closing them and investing in useless(solar panels) or semi-useless(wind turbines) options. Now we'll have to speed it up all while managing consequences of this lag
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  33.  @silverwolf6866  well, again, considering the low probability of the event and the fact that ANY self-sustainable colony on Mars would require spending trendous amounts of resourses(and even possibility of it being sustainable is not guaranteed), yes playing this russian roulette is better.
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  34. your userpic tells everything we need to know lol
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  35. ​ @mikelouis9389  is there a proof to the second statement?
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  36. ​ @impassesetcheminsdetravers4955  no, the most likely answer is that we are the first to create civilization, while life does exist out there
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  37.  @Duke00x  Definitely twitter is the best sourse for that )
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  38. Btw I was always interested how "antigravity" is supposed to work. I.e. what happens if we place two antimasses next to each other? Would they push each other away or attract? And what happens if we place antimass and normal mass next to each other? Will they push each other out or interact in some other way?(maybe form a stable system because normal mass will "suck" space in itself, while antimass will "exude" space)
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  39. Tbf we don't have other choice. Photovoltaics don't work because of low EROI, solar thermal works, but only in more southern regions, wind dries land behind it and all of the above don't supply energy constantly. De facto the only solution is nuclear, but even if we've invested in it, our emissions would probably still have been roughly the same(just the industry in europe would have been more developed)
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  40. Emotional intelligence is pseudoscientific
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  41. There are reactions without neutrons
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  42. Well, heat waves will be more bearable and we will have more time to transition to nuclear energy, so I'd say it's good rather than bad
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  43. Thanks you for concisely explaining what dimension of a fractal is
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  44. ​ @Nobody-Nowhere  where are you from?
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  45. nope
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  46. I don't think there are alien civilizations out there. Simply because technological progress is exponential, and Universe is very old. In other words, I'm pretty sure that any civilization can build FTL and colonize the Universe in less than a million years(my estimate of when humanity will do it with 95% probability is much less, around 600 years). This means that if there is the alien civilization, it should have appeared less than million years ago, while planets exist for billions of years and advanced life on earth for hundreds of millions, making such probability few tenths of percent at best, likely much much less.
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  47. When "interaction-free" measurement was mentioned I knew something was off. It's generally impossible in quantum mechanics as far as I'm aware. Maybe we'll discover how to do it, but we'll need some more general theory to do that
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  48. The problem is not people going extinct altogether, the problem is that native population of certain countries going extinct(and it's never a pleasant process, especially at the end, getting conquered and r*placed is not pleasant). And if problem is truly with women choosing not to have kids, countries that go Afghanistan's route will win
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  49. Ridiculous idea
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  50.  @JonBrase  it's a very questionable if europe is more left-wing than US
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  51. Humanity isn't doomed. We survived Toba eruption back when we were hunter-gatherers, we'll be ok
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  52. I don't see how people would survive on Mars long-term. I think if Elon tries it, it will be a huge resources sink
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  53. nope
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  54. Renewable energy is only expensive because of subsidies. Solar panels, for instance, have such a low EROI that they basically don't produce any net energy
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  55. No
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  56. I heard that they lobbied restrictions on nuclear industry. If that's true, then they really contributed negatively to this problem. Renewables were never going to work, but nuclear reactors could have become a reasonable alternative
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  57. Or just remove unreasonable restrictions placed on nuclear industry
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  58. I never understood why make soylent instead of just making meat?
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  59.  @14s0cc3r14  I'm traditionalist pagan so you're a bit far
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  60. ​ @cmar6461  stockfish can beat human at chess too, proves nothing
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  61. I don't think it will end per se, but some time will be required for the next scientific revolution to happen, something like 500 years
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  62. ​ @Totally-Real-Catgirl  he is literally right. However judging by your username and userpic, it's you who did not leave your room for a decade
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  63. Actively cooling planet is better than not using fossils, after all this carbon from CO2 will end up inside biosphere, increasing its mass and therefore amount of food that we can produce.
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  64. Why should it be banned?
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  65. At 1:35 she literally provides screenshot that says weakening is likely with high confidence, while collapse is unlikely, but only with medium confidence
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  66. 3:15 bruh, this is woke
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  67. *a right-wing bias
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  68. Manned missions to Mars COULD have been possible by then, we literally had NERVA engine to do it, the problem is that colonizing it is much much more difficult than just sending a manned mission, specifically because of harsh conditions there. If Mars was like Earth there would already have been settlements there
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  69. It's profitable only because of subsidies and transportation costs for them. And they finance it because they don't have their own oil, so in case of war they want to diversify
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  70. Well, at least it maybe will force countries on the north to have tougher immigration controls. But I wonder why too much heat wasn't a problem back in dinosaurs' age. And as for economic downturn, it will happen anyway simply because of demographic trends
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  71. Pretty sure humans will eat meat, I in general expect less moralism in future, at least regarding animal or human rights
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  72.  @nzuckman  and I prefer the one from the Old one
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  73.  @nzuckman  answer to the first question would probably be "no", but I am not sure. To the second I eat them, but rarely. How does it relate to the topic?
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  74. To be fair back in 90s/00s climate scientists made a lot of crazy statements, from claiming that ice caps would melt in 2020s or something to denying medieval warm periods simply to paint a more grim picture. No wonder people now overreact when warned about climate change
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  75. Analogy(especially a bad one) is not an argument
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  76. *most western people And there are people who don't want healthcare/safety net, as long as taxes for those purposes will be abolished -- I am one of them. But irl majority of people would eventually prefer this if such system would have been established
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  77.  @Khantia  1)Pretty sure if you ask any high religious tribes they would prefer what you'd call private healthcare. 2)The problem in US is that to practice doctors need to do residency training, and it can only be paid for by state(and obviously is limited). So it's an artificial shortage
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  78. Merry Christmas to you too
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  79. em, sharing limited resources is definitely not an unbiased idea. Actually it sets you up for disaster
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  80. Please name examples
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  81. Lol, as a pagan I literally believe multiverse exists, and pagan Gods are entities from there that contacted humans because they considered us worthy
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  82. Solar(photovoltaics) is not a source of energy
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  83. religion and magic are different things
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  84.  @plwadodveeefdv  Religion does not require miracles and no, it is not magic if performed by a god/gods
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  85. ​ @Nemophilist850  what is the probability of such huge asteroid impact? It never happened in the past
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  86. I have the idea - we need to basically dublicate every biological neuron and axon with mechanical ones. Once both are connected in parallel, biological ones can be switched off while maintaining continuity of consciousness. We would need VERY advanced nanotechnology for that though. I expect humanity to invent FTL before inventing transfer of consciousness
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  87. Not true, what person can achieve is largely determined at conception(by genes)
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  88. Well, third reich should be between fascism and communism on that diagram
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  89.  @oskariKN25  ahahahhaha, imagine being so woke. But yeah, the harems will return, and exactly in the form they were back in the old times.
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  90. I think it's more than decades away
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  91.  @thomaskalbfus2005  industrialization makes humanity more resistant to natural disasters, not less
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  92. I think proton decay itself is unconfirmed
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  93.  @alansmithee419  em, dude, you do realize that there are ways to switch off libido, right? 2)none among the right is against calling the r-word "r-word", it's just that leftists change the meaning and use it as an insult(for someone who actually is one(me) it's good, as it normalizes it)
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  94. I don't think that AGI will be cheap enough to replace humans
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  95. Hydrogen is supposed to be a fuel for cars(and only after we convert to nuclear energy), not a long-term energy storage for barely working renewables
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  96.  @cosmicprison9819  lol, I don't like modern values anyway. Afghanistan is not perfect, but it's closer to ideal society than the modern west
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  97. There is actually a good reason to believe in existense of multiverse(and even hyperverse and outerverse), but a philosophical one. Because ontologically speaking, with time, as we delve deeper into observing and researching our world, every time we find things out there, and in greater numbers. Once people believed that there's only one continent surrounded by water. Turned out there are 7. Then people believed that Sun is the only star, turned out that all of them are like sun(and even with naked eye we can see thousands, and 100 billion in milky way). Then people believed that there's only one galaxy, and turned out there are 2 trillion even in observable universe only(yes, more than stars in milky way). So it's expected to find many other universes in very great numbers, later on find other multiverses in even greater ones, and so on to infinity
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  98. The problem is that photovoltaics are ineffective and unecological
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  99. As far as I know this is not true
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  100.  @MrAuswest  not 100%. The original finding as I remember was that after 25 or so the chance to pass away every particular year grows till 100 or so, then it stabilizes at some relatively high value
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  101. I think we will have FTL before Mars of Venus colonization
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  102. Not really. If our institutions were medieval, (western) societies would have worked much better. The social problems exist exactly because we believed some delusional idealists from 18th-19th centuries and ditched the traditional model of small government and laissez faire capitalism
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  103. This is false. Our societal problems are exactly because we believed some idealists from 18th-19th-20th centuries and ditched the traditional model
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  104. I stop functioning normally if temperature is above 25°C(I can however tolerate much higher ones if I can later get to a room with air conditioning)
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  105. Few things: 1)I don't want to only see equal fights. I want to see unequal fight and assymetrical fights too(for example Mayweather vs Fury or Wilder if we are talking about boxing) 2)I think simple hormonal level are not a good measure 3)I personally am not interested in female sports, but if we are going to have categories I think the most reasonable thing is to have 4 of them — men, women, trans men, trans women.
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  106.  @JRSEVEN-c6i  such a wishful thinking
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  107. The problem with aliens is the question -- why would they arrive now, instead of several tens or hundred millions years ago?
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  108. Solar power would be doing awful if not for subsidies
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  109. first one is not true
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  110. You are completely right. And the whole idea that we should create unnecessary jobs just for people to not get poor, is absolutely ridiculous
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  111. Basically no one believed that earth is flat when Columbus lived
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  112. 12:38 It also should be noted that some sources(especially photovoltaics) have lower EROI compared to others, which, as far as I understand, this graph doesn't take into account. So some "source"(which is actually closer to battery) that generates only enough power to offset energy costs to produce and run it(again, photovoltaics situation) but is cheap per total amount of energy generated would look like a good source of power, but in practice it would just add an extra step in energy cycle.
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  113. ​ @blist14ant  *science
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  114. How much energy it requires?
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  115. it was not proved to be sub-optimal, lol
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  116. ​ @mana_banana  база
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  117. ​ @millerrepin4452  attractiveness is not completely subjective
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  118. The problem is that we'll likely become FTL before we terraform Mars, and then we'll be searching for planets with water and atmosphere, thus the terraforming problems we'll encounter(filling atmosphere with oxigen and creating a biosphere) won't be practiceable on Mars at the time we start colonizing other planets
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  119.  @richardbaird1452  we don't really need completely new physics(at least it's not required), we just need to learn how to generate negative mass-energy density. And FTL already proven to be theoretically possible because it's based on general relativity. It will just most likely be quite complicated and require hudreds of years to be developed
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  120. ​ @jeremymanson1781  they are only cheapest because of subsidies
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  121. I mean Multiverse almost certainly exists(simply because it's ontologically very likely), but now there's no way to prove it, measure anything related to it, or even know what laws it follows. I.e. it's a philosophical concept, not a physical one
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  122. Basically take US conservatives and remove takes that are dictated by christian morals and opinion about climate change. What's left is a center
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  123. ​ @richardharris8538  the fact that you believe that harris is better than trump shows that it's you who are lacking intelligence lol
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  124. ​ @petermersch9059  based
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  125.  @andrewpaulhart  technically I can imagine a model where true free will actually exists. However the "free will generator" shouldn't obey physical laws then, either deterministic or not
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  126.  @not_a_human_being  not in a "strong" sense
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  127.  @DobesVandermeer  Yes, free will(at least "true" one) MUST be magical and MUST not obey ANY laws, except maybe logical ones
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  128. If any of them wanted to, they already would have. Our universe is quite isolated, hopefully only in one direction(otherwise our descendants will struggle to leave it million years later when we will use all of its energy) P.S. Ah, now I understand where the alien portal thing comes from. Still my statement is correct
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  129. it is not true lol
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  130.  @4362mont  so basically an argument to authority?
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  131. Alarmists going crazy again🤦🏻‍♂️
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  132.  @user-gk9lg5sp4y  ok, easy. Objective differences between different ethn*c gr*ups of people, positive influence of religion(not christianity) on society, tribalism being superior to globalism and egoism
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  133.  @fruitylerlups530  1)universal healthcare is not efficient 2)climate change is not question of right or left wing. But only right wingers and maybe centrists can solve it 3)war on terror and war on drugs are not right-left question 4)G*n control is ineffective in reducing v*olent cr*me 5)countries with state dirigism don't have improved economic performance
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  134. Well, I guess on top of questionable critical current density, it also may be kinda difficult to synthesize, considering there seem to be certain reproducibility issues.
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  135. ​ @danhouck  how those things are even supposed to lead to extinction?
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  136. ​ @NickDusting  why?
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  137. How it is "nesessary", lol?
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  138. ​ @wesleyhawks bruh so woke
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  139. ​ @ConspiracytardHunter420  vegans definitely don't live their best lives, lol. They suffer from malnutrition usually
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  140. ​ @nzuckman you can't stay healthy without meat, lol
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  141. ​ @eoingriffin3517  true
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  142. ​ @isaacclarkefan  it is. But currently it happens a bit fast. Yes, it is not a problem in terms of absolute values at all(it was warmer than now during medieval and roman temperature optimums, not to mention dinosaurs' times), but the rate of change may require a lot of efforts to adapt to
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  143. ​ @CitiesForTheFuture2030  bruh so many wokies here. Who cares about animals lol? They are created by Gods for us to eat them
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  144.  @ferd1775  100% 🤣
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  145. Analogy is not an argument
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  146. And?
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  147. ​ @thomasjgallagher924  you greatly underestimate the third world quality of life. And, most importantly, in their countries quality of life grows, while in the west it is stagnant or even decreasing slowly
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  148. If yes, good for humanity, we are better suited to get warm when it's cold than vice versa
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  149. There were no pensions back then🤦🏻‍♂️
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  150. The problem is that almost no one strongly advocates for the only(working) alternative — nuclear fuel. At best it is "ok, whatever" type of stance
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  151. literally not true
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  152.  @exscape  Facts(and reality) literally lean to very far-right. Even for me, a far-right traditionalist it's sometimes a bit hard to grasp how extremely right-wing reality is
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  153.  @exscape  climate change is neither left or right wing, and evolution is fundamentally right wing idea(you don't think brain somehow escaped it's influence, right?)
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  154.  @AudiTTQuattro2003  bruh no
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  155.  @52flyingbicycles  it can, just add dimensions
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  156. *the west
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  157. ​ @lukap3rcic  yes, but compared fossils it loses.
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  158. ​ @afreire239  would be nice to have hydrogen cars to
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  159. Impossible and not needed too
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  160. ​ @zyansheep  solar only is cheap because it's subsidized
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  161. I'm not sure agi is even possible in this century
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  162. My estimation is that we need around 600 years for first working prototype
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  163. I don't think we'll have AGI superior to humans in next several decades
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  164. While I'm skeptical about those high sensitivity models, it would be nice if climate scientists tried to really analyze if those are correct or not, instead of just throwing them away
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  165. ​ @wolvenar  wait why?
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  166. ​ @vdinh143  don't let the communist escape, catch him!
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  167. Em, it is not true. Actually the opposite is true, every time someone gets reluctant to have necessary sacrifices, it leads to fall of this tribe/population
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  168. I agree
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  169. ​ @ItsAlways42-z1e literally false. Nuclear may become profitable, but only if it gets less regulated
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  170. Whoever says "period" in the discussion, automatically loses
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  171. ​ @mb-3faze  dude, photovoltaics barely produce enough energy to justify their manufacturing, not to mention that they don't give energy at night
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  172. ​ @bassmanjr100  btw the best combo is nuclear + hydrogen cars, but it will only be in distant future
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  173. ​ @guguigugu  I'd rather eat people
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  174. But burning the fossil fuels and producing X amount of CO2 while also capturing the same X amount of CO2 is better than not burning it at all. Plus renewables don't work(at least photovoltaics) and nuclear industry needs time before it can replace the fossil fuels one
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  175. Why are you mostly vegetarian because of wife? Never understood that
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  176. it's actually the opposite. The reality is so right wing, that it would call founding fathers leftists and austrian painter a commie
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  177. Thank you for the video. I've been telling something similar to this to people who claimed FTL is absolutely impossible for a long time
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  178. It's actually opposite. For most of history societies were unbiased(i.e. right-wing), then got super left-wing, and AI initially was quite right-wing. And devs had to limit it so it wouldn't be "r*cist"
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  179. The good thing is that intelligent AI seem to be a very far future thing
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  180. I think to have achievements in math/physics they will need to engineer AI specifically for this task
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  181. I'm skeptical of photovoltaics(because of extremely low EROI), but whatever, as long as they are not being subsidized instead nuclear it's ok
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  182.  @JB.zero.zero.1  lol most people in the world don't care. And I don't thing lab grown meat will be able to compete with a real one any time soon
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  183. ​ @sperzieb00n  woefully they can't just cut off all welfare
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  184. It actually is not such a bad idea. Would be better however to pick location that is farther away from military bases, pretty sure France won't be happy about their island with a base on it being dismantled by a nuke
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  185.  @dvv18  one can make other tests. Your intellectual abilities are that of a potato
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  186.  @nzuckman  Well, ok. God of New one(christ) would condemn me even faster because I don't want to live in christian proto-communist commune. Pretty sure I have better chances to reason with Yahweh than with Christ
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  187. *a traditionalist bias
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  188. ​ @brunonikodemski2420  tbf such relationships should be allowed in the first place, imagine prohibiting people to date because they work at the same company
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  189. With people problem is not that they have low reasoning capabilities, but with the process itself and the fact that people dislike when way world works don't fit their moral values. More precisely, when trying to understand phenomenon and build a model for it, people first pick some moral values on emotional basis(i.e. those that "feel right" to them). Then they try to construct a model, but place restrictions so the model/explanation wouldn't be "immoral". Since their moral views are picked on emotional basis, there's no reason for actual explanation to be "moral". But upon encountering this problem, people usually prefer to add new mechanisms to the model/add justifications. When at the certain point evidence pile up and it's just impossible to add justifications, they simply choose to ignore the evidence they were presented with. In general, such problem can be fixed in two ways(but both seems unlikely for people to start practicing) - either be ok with reality being "immoral"(i.e. best solutions being immoral) or consider practice the more moral the better it works.
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  190. You are a joke🤡
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  191. Ok, let's be quick. Firstly, no one would give money to Pascal's mugger because propability of somebody being a mugger while being actually very rich is de-facto zero. Add to that the fact that he initially wanted to take your money without paying back, and if he's rich, he can just return home and use his money. For those who disagree, imagine that instead someone dressed as businessman would ask you to give him money because he forgot his wallet and phone, and ran out of gas. Most people would give money to such guy, as long as it's a reasonable amount. Secondly, I think Longtermists overestimate the risk of certain things, like asteroids(all big ones are tracked), nuclear war(not enough bombs to destroy civilization) or AI(almost certainly won't exceed human performance before we learn how to digitalise our consciousness)
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  192. How many times do I have to tell people that solar power(photovoltaics) is not a source of net energy? It only produces enough to justify it's own manufacturing, if not less
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  193. All media except fox news are left wing. Fox news is centrist
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  194. ​ @Volkbrecht  Solar basically has EROI too low to justify itself, wind has drawbacks(like drying land behind it), and I don't thing natural gas gives enough energy to fuel enough amounts of carbon capture
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  195. So somewhere in 22nd century
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  196. ​ @petrkinkal1509  I know it's a joke but won't work because they have eroi so low that even with sun, that does not require anything to do they barely reach net zero
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  197. Nuclear fusion situation reminds me of that truck that is about to crash meme gif
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  198. Europe may get colder if golfstream weakens, but world will truly be greener and more humid
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  199. Lol go try to make it admit the differences between gr*ups of p*ople
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  200. They can't perform as good as men in skateboarding most likely because of men having higher variability(plus maybe having higher body coordination averagely).
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  201. ​ @Solas-x2e  That's an old estimate, there at least was one with 700kg of annihilating matter being required, which means achievable today. The biggest problem will be generation of negative mass-energy density, we'll need quantum gravity for this most likely
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  202. ​ @dewiz9596  it's more likely that there are no intelligent aliens rather than that FTL travel is impossible
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  203. It however can be argued that if there are AIs of different political leanings then it's good
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  204. ​ @no_mnom  because yt people are smarter(on par with asians, ok)
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