Comments by "Hyok Kim" (@hyokkim7726) on "America's NEW F-15-EX Dominates Disputed Air Space" video.
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@Xenomorphine ''If stealth platform already destroyed all hostile air and anti-air assets, as well as sensor nodes, then what would be the reason for F-15 to worry about speed, range, and agility at the expense of full payload?'' - Hyok Kim
''Because those are things certain commentators are raving about as supposed advantages...'' - Xenomorephine
Does that include you?
''- and RANGE most definitely factors into capability of any mission.''
...but here, I am talking about a situation where and when all hostile air and anti-air assets as well as sensor nodes were destroyed already. Can F-15 not carry drop tanks or refuel in the air?
This also means F-15 wouldn't have to perform any evasive maneuver, which takes a big toll in fuel consumption and the range, even less reason to worry about range, just A to B.
''It's not going to be trailing behind F-22s and F-35s, because that would alert the enemy to where those platforms are. It would also very clearly slow them down.''
...but here I am talking about situation where and when all hostile air and anti-air assets, as well as sensor nodes are already destroyed. So no need to worry about the hostile AD or air assets.
Of course, by that point, no reason for F-15 to trail behind F-22/35, since all hostile air and AD assets are neutralized, only soft/interdiction targets. No reason to slow F-22/35s down.
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Wow! Cappi really has improved on air coverage since he did on F-35!
Yes, U.S. would have been far better off; keeping F-22, and improving on F-15, and forgetting F-35, especially F-35B, basically, a very expensive gimmick.
I agree, the stealth is greatly over-rated. To be 'stealth at the optimal level, the plane will have to have internal bay, severely limiting both the total amount of warheads that can be carried, and the size of warhead that can be carried.
This means stealth plane won't be able to carry the missiles or bombs that cannot be fit into the internal bay, limiting the punishment that can be meted out to the enemy, and the range one can engage the enemy.
Also, maximizing the internal bay will have to sacrifice the durability of the frame, meaning a severely reduced lifespan, and increasing the unit cost of the plane.
Not only that both the radars and missiles are improving faster, and less expensively than the stealth coating.
What good is the stealth, even if you see the enemy first, you still have to get closer to be able to use your missile, to the point, you become visible to the enemy, and he still outranges you?
Why the Dassault Raffael is still selling today, its missiles outrange F-35's.
Also, on stealth coating, U.S. uses soft panels, that are neither durable nor robust; they have to be replaced after F-35 hits Mach, F-35s have to be inspected after every sortie for the integrity of the soft stealth panel, using expensive equipment, and technicians.
At least, U.S. has these equipments, and the technicians trained to do it, and manufactures those panels herself; the countries that bought F-35, have to buy these panels from U.S. They cannot, are not allowed to manufacture these panels! Not eve IDF! So much for the special relationship.
Why ROK has chosen domestic, propriety, hard, baked on frame steal coating for KF-21. One time application during the manufacturing process, lifetime durability.
For now, F-35 is still a bit more 'stealthy' than KF-21, but they are improving the process to the point, KF-21 will not only be equally stealthy, but superior as well in the near future.
Again, twin engine are the future; they make the plane more reliable/safer to fly, in case, one engine goes bad, generates a more 'Oomph' at ultra high altitudes.
Ultra high altitudes will become far more important, with the development of microsatellites that can be launched from a fighter jet, at ultra high altitudes, like KF-21 is expected to do in the near future.
This means the domination of the space, by blanketing masses of microsatellites in the low orbit, on demand, fast, in real time, and using them to neutralize the enemy satellites above, and especially the development of advanced thermal sensor, they would be able to detect underground bunkers, nuclear submarines deep beneath the waves, and the ability/platform to guide hypersonic missiles into enemy VIPs with nuclear codes (decapitating the heads), intercepting, and detonating the enemy ICBMs once they are launched, within the enemy air space, basically turning the enemy ICBMs into air busting nuclear bombs against the enemy themselves!
So you might ask why ROK has bought F-35, while working on KF-21?
1. ROK wants to compete with F-35 for the future sales, and need F-35 for benchmarking, and giving customers a 'test drive', letting them decide which is the more cost effective stealth fighter, for themselves. The word from the grapevine is that both Saudis and UAE are just waiting for the commencement of the mass production of KF-21 block 3, with ROK designed, made engines, not subject to U.S. permission, with Turkiye, Poland, India, and potentially even UK looking at KF-21.
2. U.S. decided to sell F-35 to ROK, despite the fact that, ROK has worked with the Russians, the very same Russian companies that sold S-400 to Erdogan, because MIC decided to eliminate erstwhile competition, KF-21, nipping it in the bud, by getting ROK to commit to F-35, hoping that it would lead to canceling of KF-21.
Not only that, there are far more pilots trained on F-15 than F-35, plus far more experience, especially in actual combat; there are far less pilot bottlenecks in F-15 than F-35.
For SEAD, autonomous planes are the future, ala 'Loyal Wingman', 'Kaori-X'. Smaller, far more stealth, no risk the pilot, no pilot botteneck, which is going to be a game changer at the strategic level.
KF-21 is set to mass deploy virtual laser turret instead of traditional gattling gun by 2035; supposed to be a game changer in dog fights. ROK computer simulation shows that it could neutralize up to 20 enemy fighter jets in dog fights in a matter of a few minutes to a few seconds.
All my information regarding KF-21 came from ROK channels; they are not top secret, but one has to understand Korean; yt translation is horrible.
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@Xenomorphine
''No, I'm not hyping up an F-15 which even the USAF doesn't want.'' - Xenomorphine
US Air Force would buy six more F-15EXs in 2025 under draft House bill
"Can F-15 not carry drop tanks or refuel in the air?" - Hyok Kim
''In no possible way will tankers be flying over hostile airspace.'' - Xenomorphine
"...but here, I am talking about a situation where and when all hostile air and anti-air assets as well as sensor nodes were destroyed already." - Hyok Kim
''In which case, you're going to just be using strategic bombers, regardless. In fact, every other fourth generation platform out there - up to and including the AC-130. That's not really an argument for the EX.'' - Xenomorphine
Aren't you contradicting yourself?
''F-22s and even the F-35 can carry additional fuel, too.'' - Xenomorphine
... but that would defeat the purpose of operating stealth plane. F-35 stealth 'coating' are expensive and time consuming to maintain; one has to inspect F-35 after each sortie, using expensive equipment, and specially trained technicians, and replace each soft stealth panel everytime F-35 breaks Mach; why ROK KF-21 uses 'hard' baked in stealth coating, one time application during the manufacture, lifetime warranty for the lifetime of the frame.
''So, how is that advocating for the EX as a necessity? You'll be using F-16s and all sorts of other stuff, including regular old Strike Eagles, too. Ukraine, however, has shown that SEAD isn't something which is easily achieved against near-peer opponents.'' - Xenomorphine
Didn't the Russians accomplish SEAD against the Ukrainian offensive?
"Of course, by that point, no reason for F-15 to trail behind F-22/35, since all hostile air and AD assets are neutralized, only soft/interdiction targets. No reason to slow F-22/35s down." - Hyok Kim
''But, again, what's the point? That's why the F-35 can carry an even heavier combat load than the A-10 when using external pylons.'' - Xenomorphine
.....but wouldn't that defeat the very purpose of F-35?
''My point about the trailer thing was that some are advocating for this F-15 to fly in behind stealth platforms to lob missiles around in teh initial stages of a conflict. That's a non-starter.''
I see; so what do you think about using stealth autonomous planes, ala 'Loyal Wingman' or 'Kaori-X' in the future?
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