Comments by "dixon pinfold" (@dixonpinfold2582) on "Anders Puck Nielsen"
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 @MarcosElMalo2 It surprises me how many people think that American political and military leadership are perpetually unthinking blunderers and how few think that they are acute and realistic but simply have to conceal their real strategy.
In this regard I put Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Ukraine all in the same basket. In each case I think they knew (or know) that attaining an absolute victory was/is not realistic in light of the enemy's commitment and resolve, the immutable facts of the terrain, the (un)willingness of the American public, the need to conserve American military and financial resources, and the willingness of the enemy's allies to back it with their own military and financial resources.
Afghanistan may serve as a prime example. No one is ever going to conquer and pacify Afghanistanâperennially quite well armed and innately highly defensible owing to terrainâwithout a force of at least a few million, and at a great cost in lives.
Knowing this, the US and the UN-mandated ISAF were under no illusions. They sent in small numbers of men and a lot of materiel with the aim of controlling Kabul, some other large towns, large areas of countryside, and that's all. That they were able to do it so well and for so long, without huge numbers of casualties, was in fact very impressive.
They made their point about terra wrist training, they made it for 20 years, and they made it well. That point was that if the West is attacked, the nation sponsoring the attacks will receive some very unpleasant visitors who will stay for a very long time. And what was its effect? I say that the relative absence of Isla mist terra wrist attacks on the West for many years now strongly suggests that it created a strong deterrent. And the US left at a time of their own choosing. Mostly their own choosing, that is: it would appear that Russian troop massing near Ukraine in early 2021 was the cue that US military commitments were best trimmed to the minimum. Hence the Afghanistan pullout, which when seen in that light was well timed.
(The disappointing aspect was the relative lack of passion among Afghanis for retaining democratic government. This largely had to do with an understandable exhaustion and a longing for peace after so many decades of warfare since the 1970s. It was this that led the Western forces to simply hope that all the kit they'd left the national army with would be wielded with conviction. Few, however, were greatly shocked when the Afghans quickly surrendered. But the notion that US and their partners left defeated with their tails between their legs is nothing more than anti-Western PR.)
It must be borne in mind that the US cannot publicly admit its real goals in every conflict. It cannot begin by telling the American people that it cannot win outright and must settle for attriting enemies over a period of many years. They wouldn't accept it. Yet the outcomes of such attrition are successful. Vietnam succeeded in keeping China from attempts to spread Communism in the Indo-Pacific during all these years since. The hope of the US and NATO now is that Russia will learn a lesson similar to those learned by China (in Vietnam), North Korea and the Taliban, namely that over the long term they cannot win.
Thanks for reading my even longer spiel.đ
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 @pauly230678 <---"The likes of Norway, Sweden and UK would be in full noise regardless of what the rest of NATO do." Yes, I agree. And they already have a mechanism for that: the Joint Expeditionary Force (JEF), a UK-led force which consists of the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden), the Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), and the Netherlands.
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