Comments by "dixon pinfold" (@dixonpinfold2582) on "Forbes Breaking News" channel.

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  43. ​ @Bat-Cat-Meow  Thanks for your reply. As a seasoned cynic from way back, I'm not impressed. A seasoned cynic is a reformed one, meaning no longer an extremist. I freely grant that money has too much influence on American politics. Yet I will begin by pointing out that the rich do not have to feel assured that they can own politicians before deciding to throw money at political parties. They would do it even on the faintest hope of getting what they want, and would continue to do so despite turning up no results decade after decade. The fact that income taxes are at all north of 5% is proof enough of that. And even then, who is to blame except the American people themselves, who worship money like almost no others on Earth? You think that in a democracy the leaders might ever be lacking in any of their countrymen's worst and most widespread faults? Not possible. I grant also that the political deliberations held in public are of course deeply flawed, and I could go on all day about those flaws, yet the deliberations in the clip shown here are far better than most. Every point made is germane. The positions are well contrasted. The tone is civil. There is a certain amount of clear respect for the facts. (Just what the facts are is an important and separate matter.) You need to understand that whatever degree of justice there is, whatever sound management, whatever order and peace, is entirely down to good debate (i.e. that which is open, sincere, practised, informed, and free) and respect for good debate. Without them, all is chaos, tyranny, and vicious rule by gangs and the mob with no recourse for people like you and me. Together they keep an enormous number of balls in the air, if you look at our civilization as a grand juggling act, which is what it is. Your problem is that until you wise up your only way of appreciating how good you have it (assuming you're a Westerner and not a grossly unfortunate one) is to lose it all. You're judging it, I don't doubt, by utopian standards (i.e. a fantasy) rather than by realistic possibilities, which is why you think it's all garbage. I respectfully suggest you get to know humankind and civilization better by looking at them around the world and across time. Psychology and history would be good places to start, and at the outset you should rid your mind of cant, sanctimony, and the idea that conceptions of justice and morality have reached dizzying new heights in the American universities since 1970, after wallowing in blindness for an eternity beforehand. They haven't. They've actually deteriorated badly at the hands of bitterly deformed, usually not-very-bright, opportunistic, spoiled dupes, except for a few certain improvements. As valuable as they may in fact be, they have been purchased at a needlessly disastrous or even pyrrhic cost. It could be a nicer society, I'll give you that. Income inequality is ballooning under the liberal order and that means misery is increasing. This is why I think we already hit all-time peak human niceness (prosperity and security as well). Real niceness (as well as the real prosperity and real security) is way down.
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  163. ​ @brandonf1260   Not that many years ago I would've agreed with you, eight or 10 maybe. It's a very common opinion, and I thought the reason was that it was simply true. But at last, a little while later, I realized than my view of conservatives was highly caricatured. And I realized I'd been had. For opinions like the one you expressed are what one is taught by: most university faculty (especially younger ones and TAs of course), most of one's fellow students at almost all universities, most American movies, most American TV shows, most American news outlets, most American magazines, most American celebrities, most or perhaps nearly all American teachers, very nearly all American liberals, all American left-wingers and all American wokesters. And it's been that way since about 1980. The demonization of conservatism has been so energetic, so thoroughgoing, that you actually owe it to yourself to consider how it is that they haven't gone away. If your answer to that is that "Uh, because they're evil and immortal like vampires" and you say it because you don't think the question even deserves a moment's thought, I understand. I was once like you. It's what I would've said. But I suggest you take it seriously anyway, simply out of non-conformity — if your original liberal spirit of non-conformity still has a flicker of a pulse after however many years spent conforming to liberal ideology and prejudices. Consider if you will what liberal Americans have shown themselves willing to do and willing to give up in the past ten years alone in order to spare themselves the horrors of conservatism. Consider how many of them are grimly (or cheerfully) determined to re-elect a less-honest-than-average president with a clearly shrunken and wizened brain. Consider that they have joined forces to revamp the language down to its very pronouns. Consider that they stand up for the right of men to walk into women's locker rooms and showers and expose their sex organs in front of the women. Consider that they supported unnecessarily depriving their children of a year or more of irreplaceable education and socialization in the classroom. I could list another hundred irrational things they've done simply to thwart conservatism. And again, I understand. I understand that they think they have to do whatever it takes. They simply want to be good people. They want to oppose evil. They want to avert chaos, save democracy, ensure decency, save lives, rescue the planet and entrench everything else wholesome and desirable. Because conservatives are evil, ignorant, full of hate, they're a bunch of cartoon characters beyond redemption. Only it's all a hoax. Conservatism is relentlessly straw-manned. What they are is simply people who believe that the oath of Hippocrates, First, you shall do no harm, is well suited to more walks of life than just medicine, and especially to politics and social engineering. They are profound disbelievers in utopian solutions, in the idea that we today really might be the most morally enlightened and wonderful people of all time (we're not), in the idea that after numberless millennia of humanity struggling with eternal problems, it's the people born after 1945, '55, '65, '75, '85 or '95 who've Finally Figured It All Out far, far more thoroughly and better than anyone ever has! Nay, perfectly! (Cf. Confucius: "The answers were all found long ago.") Actually we're just the latest cohort set to blunder childishly and spectacularly if we make the mistake of believing in ourselves like that. That's what I finally realized after decades as a liberal. Not all at once, not right away. At first it was barely at all, in a painful haze of cognitive dissonance as what I believed and what I saw with my own eyes were in direct contradiction with each other. Then it was more and more, gradually, as I began to trust the rational and not the socialized part of myself. And at last I realized that my initial attraction to the 'truths' of liberalism was in fact an attraction to being in the 'right' community all along. I wanted to be "the sort of person who knows that [insert any of a thousand liberal tropes about how every liberal/left-wing tenet is by its very liberalness/left-ness inherently superior in morality]" and who is recognized for it. And I realized that it had cost me very dearly. It had cost me access to the very truth I thought I was picking off the shelf as easily as consumer packaged goods. I'd been had by a bunch of really rather awful people whose sole merit was sometimes or usually meaning well — especially when other people were looking — and whose demerits would take forever to plumb. I shouldn't have taken so long to realize all this. I actually stifled the budding of these realizations for a long time because I genuinely feared it meant no longer "being a good person." Oh, what an id io t I was! But late is better than never. (I also shouldn't have waited so long to start writing all this out. Again, better late than never. At least I've started now. Your comment somehow made it seem like the right time. So thanks.)
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