Comments by "Sean" (@sean2015) on "Man beats speed camera in court" video.

@kelvinmorris1991 I guess people are conservative when they're the victims of a crime, and liberal when they are the perpetrators of one
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@carloscrespo4520 "it’s also normal for people to drive 5-10 mph over the speed limit, --> my point exactly, that's why I don't buy it when people say "Oh, I got a speeding ticket but I was driving below the speed limit" -> baloney! Because who drives under the speed limit these days? Virtually nobody.
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GR3YH4TT3R93 what the hell does Trump have to do with this? You sound like some liberal snowflake who has to politicize everything. At one end of the spectrum we have the Teabaggers and then at the other end we have the Liberal Snowflakes like yourself.
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When I got pulled over for an illegal turn, there were no victims. I still got a $200 ticket for it. Someone better explain to me why illegal turns are sooo bad, but speeding is no big deal.
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@Milesco yeah okay buddy. Next time a driver is going 30 mph over the limit in a residential neighborhood, and swerving all over the road and runs over some kid selling lemonade or playing catch, I'll be sure to tell the kids' parents that it was his fault for not paying attention. Your comment is so asinine that I actually feel ashamed of myself for even dignifying it with a response.
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@rayfl502 don't waste your time trying to argue with these people. "Don't speed and you won't have to worry about getting a ticket" sounds easy enough, but for people like the OP, it's asking too much.
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@jonathanneal5622 thank you sir
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Robert James Fischer cops have been handing out speeding tickets ever since the days when Henry Ford was building Model Ts. How come nobody back then ever claimed it was "unconstitutional" or that the cop's radar guns were inaccurate? It's because one cop can only pull over one car at a time, whereas a speed camera can capture an infinite number of license plates. The only people who care about surveillance cameras in a bank, are bank robbers. The only people who care about speed cameras are people who want/intend to speed.
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@creamycream7081 well gee that's funny, I used to live in Phoenix which had a ton of speed cameras. I drove the speed limit and never once got one during all the time I lived there. Before you got near the area where the speed cameras were, you'd see numerous signs warning that a "speed camera zone" was coming up and to slow down (which is why I know people are full of crap when they try to claim that they're "traps" that are designed to shake people down for money).
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@creamycream7081 yeah sorry, I find that hard to believe. The same camera that catches you committing a crime can also be used to exonerate you if you've done nothing wrong, so why would anyone be opposed to transparency if they have nothing to hide? Please don't try to tell me "well the camera wasn't working properly, it made me look as though I was speeding". - baloney. I've sat through some of these hearings in court and the judge always gives the benefit of the doubt to the accused. On top of that, very few people these days actually drive at exactly the speed limit (everyone is doing 5-10 mph over) so that's why I don't buy your claim. According to your logic, "SOME people are innocent, therefore we should do away with all laws all prisons and all law enforcement". 99% of people who walk into Walmart or Target have no intent on shoplifting from the store. The surveillance cameras are there for that other 1 percent who do. As the old saying goes: "the camera don't lie".
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@creamycream7081 cameras don't lie. Anyone who is not committing any wrongdoing (or who has no intent of committing any wrongdoing) would not be opposed to being videotaped. In fact they'd be applauding the existence of the cameras as a means to exonerate them. And no, I don't buy people who say "well I don't speed but I'm still opposed to speed cameras". Notice how nobody ever complains about being videotaped at the bank, Walmart, at the hospital, etc., ...and like I said before, who these days drives at exactly the speed limit? Virtually nobody.
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@creamycream7081 you got a speeding ticket for $20? That's NOTHING. Three years ago I was pulled over in New York state for making an illegal left turn and I got a ticket for $200. I don't deny what I did was wrong and I didn't try to dodge responsibility for it (unlike people who speed and get speeding tickets), my only beef was with the amount of the ticket ($200? are you kidding me? $50 would've been sufficient). And in my opinion, if the object of issuing tickets is to improve road safety, then speeding is more dangerous than an illegal turn. And if you'd like to hear my reasons or justifications I'd be happy to explain them.
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@carloscrespo4520 actually that's not true. I used to live in Phoenix around 2008-2009, and at that time speed cameras were becoming a new thing. Phoenix had numerous signs warning people that they were entering a speed zone and to reduce their speed (you'd see a sign one mile away, and then another sign a quarter-mile away from the entrance to the speed camera zone). People were whining that they were speed traps but they weren't "traps" at all. You can't say it's a "trap" if you're given two warnings. ANOTHER THING: the cameras wouldn't give you a ticket unless you were 11 mph over the limit. You could drive up to 10 mph over the limit and not get a ticket. So when people complain about this type of thing, sorry if my sympathy meter reads zero.
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@creamycream7081 I'm perfectly fine with lowering the ticket dollar amounts but no, speed cameras are here to stay. As far as lowering the bar, most cameras already do what you say as far as giving people a margin of error (unlike the speed cameras in places like England where if you go 1 kph over the limit it's a ticket). But it's not a good idea to give too much margin for error because people will test the limits and the whole point is to enforce speed limits and keep roads and highways safe. And no, the reason people don't complain about cameras in stores is because 1) most people who go into stores don't intend to shoplift or commit any other type of crime, and 2) even if someone does commit a crime inside a store, they are less easily identifiable (people wear hats, hoods, sunglasses etc., to obscure their identity) compared with when they are driving because cars have information (license plates) which can be traced to the owner. Most people don't realize that cops run license plates all the time, that's how I once got ticketed for a shorted license plate light.
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@creamycream7081 I assume you live in the U.S. (right?) because most of my experience with speed cameras comes from the years I lived in Phoenix (2008-2010). Like I said in my previous posts, on the highways there would be numerous signs warning people that they were approaching a speed zone and to reduce their speed (my memory is that there were at least two signs, but there might've even been three). You'd see a sign one mile away from the zone, and then another sign about a quarter-mile away. So I rolled my eyes at people saying they were "traps". If they were really "traps" designed to milk money from drivers, then the city would've kept the locations of the zones secret, right? Also at that time, the cameras wouldn't give you a ticket unless you were 11 mph over the limit. So you could drive up to 10 mph over the limit and you were fine (of course I drove at exactly the limit to give myself enough margin for error...but I remember being behind people who were speeding, and seeing the white flash go off). However in Europe, you don't get that buffer. The speed cameras will ticket you if you go even 1 kph over the limit (kph = kilometers per hour).
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@creamycream7081 ahhhh, now I understand why you're so opposed to them. I was puzzled by some of your earlier points but now it makes sense.
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