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@AdvaiticOneness1 No records of many Chinese traveled to India, let alone to Nalanda. Trade, communication and cultural exchange between China and India were almost non-existence due to geographical separation. Buddhism was brought to China by Indo-Europeans such as Kusan, Yeuzhi and Tocharians who were Buddhist monks related to Gandharan Mahayana Buddhism. Gandhara is the origin place of Buddhism, evident by the earliest Buddhist manuscripts written in Scythian Saka Kharosthi Script and found in Gandhara, not India.
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"White Snake Story", "Bible of Mountain and Sea", "Strange and Ghost Stories Collection", "Hong Hei Khun and Fong Sai Yook", *Lal Jai the Kid", just to name a few. Most people in today's China aren't interested in myths, folklore and superstitions, this is why those things are rarely mentioned today.
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The ancient Chinese referred to Gandhara as the West. Gandhara under Persia rule was the birth place of Buddhism and the original version which is called Mahayana, the only version accepted by Chinese Buddhists, they don't accept India's Theravada. Journey to the West fictional story is based on historical records of Chinese monks travelled to Gandhara for Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts. The monks passed through Bharat (India) and Nepal on their way to and from Gandhara. Ancient India and ancient Nepal were located south of China, not west of it.
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The story of Journey to the West is based on historical records of Chinese monks who went to Gandhara in Central Asia (ancient China called it Western Region), not India, to obtain more Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts. Ancient India was located south of ancient China, not west of it. China never called India as the West, it is very clear that ancient Chinese records referred Central Asia and Persia as the West. Gandhara is the real origin of Buddhism and possibly where Buddha Siddhartha Gotama lived and preached. Gandhara is the ancient world's oldest major and biggest Buddhist center at the time of supposedly Buddha Gotama's lifetime. Gandhara is located in Central Asia and Indus Valley, back then for most of the time it was part of Persian Empire, Greeks and Indians conquered and ruled it for shorter periods. The world's earliest and oldest Buddhist manuscripts and Buddha figures are founded at Gandhara, not anywhere else. Those earliest Buddhist manuscripts are written in Kharosthi Script which was mainly the language of Saka Scythians. Buddha Gotama was also known as the Sakamuni, meaning the Saka guru. Now you know a bit of the truth.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 As I said very few Chinese people went to India due to geography. Buddhism was started in Gandhara where the earliest Buddhist manuscripts written in the Indo-European language are found. There was a Saka Kingdom near Gandhara, and Buddha Gotama was also called Sakamuni, the Saka guru. China's Buddhism is Gandharan Mahayana not Indian Theravada. The oldest Buddhist manuscripts in China came from Gandhara not India. Buddhism was brought into China by Indo-Aryan monks from Central Asia, Gandhara and Persia, not India.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 Pali is an Indo-European language, and it was mainly used by ancient Persians! Those Chinese monks went to Gandhara as their destination, they went to India as a side step. Like I said, Chinese Buddhism is based on Gandharan Mahayana manuscripts that India doesn't have. Indian king Ashoka placed European style stone pillars and edicts all over India have Kharosthi and Greek inscriptions, if Buddha Gotama was Indian then why European style pillars and Greek inscriptions in India? Obviously Indian king Ashoka learned Buddhism in Gandhara where Persians and Greeks ruled during the early Buddhism stage.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 Shakya was a republic in northeast, far away from Gandhara where the earlist Buddhist manuscripts are found. Shakya didn't have any king because it was a republic, no king then no prince. There is no evident or any early Buddhism in Shakya but there are too many evidence of early Buddhism in Gandhara which was close to Saka Kingdom. Buddha Gotama was known being a prince of a nomadic warrior tribe, this fits the Saka because it was famous for being a nomadic warrior tribe with monarchy. Gotama became enlightened because he was fed up with being in a nomadic warrior tribe. It is said that Buddha Gotama had blue eyes with short curly hair, his skin is golden color, these biological features aren't Indian, but are common in Saka Scythians who are Europeans.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 Buddha Gotama was called Sakamuni, meaning the Saka guru. Gandhara was under Persia rule at the time of Buddha Gotama's lifetime, Saka Scythians lived in that region under Persia rule. One time a Saka Kingdom was established near Gandhara where the world's earliest Buddhist texts are found, those Buddhist manuscripts are written in Saka Scythian Kharosthi Script. Greeks took control of Gandhara, that was when Buddhism blossomed with Greek style Buddha figures. The world's first and oldest Buddhist figures are found at Gandhara. Gandhara is the world's oldest major Buddhist center, the number of Buddhist stupas there exceeds all the Buddhist stupas in entire India. There is no other ancient Buddhist site like Gandhara. Ashoka's grandfather conquered Gandhara and took over it from the Greeks, it was only then Buddhism started to spread to India. Ashoka didn't promote Buddhism in India before he set foot in Gandhara, there he was converted to Buddhism under Greco-Gandharan influence, this is why Ashoka included Greek language and design in his stone pillars and edicts in dedicated to Buddhism in India. There are many caves in Central India such as Ajanta Caves and Ellora Caves, no Greeks ever presented in Central India but those caves have Greek Gandharan style Buddha figures. Many of those Buddhist caves have front entrances with European architectural designs like thoss in Greece and Petra.
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@Sreerags5959 I am asking you if you had ever heard of Gandhara the ancient world's oldest biggest major Buddhist site before I informed you about it? Why are you afraid to mention Gandhara the ancient world's most important Buddhist site where the Chinese monks travelled for the original Buddhist manuscripts, but all the other places they went to were just side trips and passthroughs? Why don't you admit that ancient India and ancient Nepal were not located west of China but south of it, and that China never referred them as the West? Why don't you face the truth that Chinese Buddhists have never believed India's version? Why don't you admit that the Buddhism in China is the version from Gandhara and the indo-European monks from there were the people who spread Buddhism to China?
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@Sreerags5959 After the Chinese monks had obtained the original Buddhist manuscripts in Gandhara then they went to India but found out that the Buddhism versions in India were not true, this is why Chinese Buddhists don't follow the Indian versions. The version of Buddhism in China is Gandharan Mahayana and nothing else. Indian Buddhism is not accepted by the Chinese because they follow the original Buddhism which is the one written in the world's oldest Buddhist manuscripts found only in Gandhara.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 There are two kinds of Sanskrit, one is Vedic Sanskrit and the other Classic Sankrit. Vedic Sankrit is Aryan language, whereas Classical Sanckrit is Indian language. Aryan Vedic Sanskrit came before Indian Classical Sanskrit. Indians created Classical Sanskrit because they had difficulties learning Aryan Vedic Sanskrit.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 Shakya was a republic not a monarch, there was no king so there was no prince. It's said that Buddha Gotama was a prince of a nomadic warrior tribe and he was called Sakamuni. Saka Scythians were a nomadic warrior tribe monarchy. The world's oldest Buddhist manuscripts are written in Kharosthi script which was a Saka written language!
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@Sreerags5959 Everything I said can be confirmed by international professional historian and academics. community.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 There were no Greeks in India. It would be a joke to promote an Indian Buddha with Greek language to Indians inside India. Certainly no Greeks in Central and South India where Ashoka placed Greek Conrith style stone pillars with Greek inscriptions. Also, why are the Buddhist caves all over India have Greek style Buddha figures originated from Gandhara? This is something you can't deny that Buddhism spread to India after Greco-Gandhara period. There are no evidence of any early Buddhism found at Lumbini; there are no early Buddhist manuscripts, Buddha figures, stupas, nothing at all, the only claim made by Nepal is the fake Ashoka pillar with fake inscription containing the town's name Lumbini, the forger didn't realize the name Lumbini had been only a few hundred years old, not 2000 years ago during Ashoka period.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 Indians created their own Classical Sanskrit, they made it because they had difficulty learning Vedic Sanskrit, an Aryan language. Ancient Persians used Pali. Saka Scythians used Kharosthi Script.
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@Sreerags5959 Haha, Indian king Ashoka promoted to his Indian people by using Greek language and Greek design, even Greek style Buddha figures, that would have been very insulting to Buddha Gotama if he was an Indian. Indians didn't bury their people in stupas, but Saka Scythians did, stupas were Saka's burial tradition long before there was any Buddhism.
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@sarikakumari7638 You can easily do some research about these facts to find out all these are true.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 The Kharosthi script, also known as the Gandhari script, was an ancient Indo-Aryan writing system that was widely used in Indus Valley and Central Asia at least as early as the fourth century B.C.E, about at the start of early Buddhism. Kharosthi originated under the influence of the Semitic script used by the Persians. When the Achaemenid Persians took control of Gandhara and the Indus between the late 6th and early 5th century BCE, they brought with them the Aramaic language that was employed as the standard means of communication for official records. On the written level, Aramaic was represented using a north Semitic script. Kharosthi is an adaptation of this north Semitic script, customized to suit the phonetic of Gandhari, a Prakrit dialect used in Gandhara and its vicinity. Indian king Ashoka included those foreign languages in his stone pillars and edicts honoring Buddhism because Buddhism originated not from India but from Persia Empire's Gandhara.
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@Sreerags5959 All stories made up by India can be discarded, have no place in international professional academic community.
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@Sreerags5959 Earliest Buddhism didn't appear until centuries after supposedly Buddha Gotama's passing. No one involved in starting Buddhism had ever seen him in person and could be sure such a character even existed, let alone his whereabouts. There's no evidence of Buddha Gotama was a real person. The only reliable solid evidence and records of earliest Buddhism are found at Gandhara, nowhere else. The world's oldest Buddhist manuscripts and Buddhist structures are found in Gandhara, the site is so big that today it is still the world's biggest ancient Buddhist site. There is absolutely no evidence showing Buddha ever existed let alone him was ever in northeast India-sub continent. All the folklore stories invented in India about him can be discarded.
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@Sreerags5959 There is absolutely no solid evidence of Buddha Gotama's living existence, the earliest record or sign of this character is dated centuries after his supposed lifetime, everything about him appeared centuries after.
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It's "Journey to the West" not "Journey to the South". Ancient India was located south of ancient China, not west of it, you can go fact check the map of those two places at that time. At the time ancient China called Central Asia as the West, this fact is well known and documented in ancient Chinese records and publications, ask any real Chinese historian they can tell you this is true. Persia was also called the West by ancient Chinese because part of Persia empire was in Central Asia, particularly Gandhara, being ruled by Persia when the birth place of Buddhism and the world's earliest and biggest Buddhist center appeared. There is found the world's earliest Buddhist manuscripts written in Kharosthi Script, a language related to Persian language which existed during supposedly Buddha Gotama's lifetime. Those manuscripts are the original Buddhism version called Mahayana which Chinese Buddhists have always believed in. Chinese Buddhist in China have always accepted and promoted Mahayana, but refuse to believe in Indian Theravada, they don't consider it as true Buddhism. There were a few times from around time of Christ to Tang Dynasty Chinese monks went to the West, meaning Gandhara, to obtain more Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts, that is why those trips were referred as Records of the West which "Journey to the West" is based on. India and Nepal located south of China were just side trips for the Chinese monks while travelling to Gandhara which was referred as the West by the Chinese.
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@Sreerags5959 "Journey to the West" is a fictional story! The author wrote that fictional story based on true historical records of Tang Dynasty monk who traveled to Gandhara for Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts. As I said many times here before, ancient China referred to Central Asia included the Persia ruled Gandhara as the West, never in entire Chinese history referred to India and Nepal as the West. Ancient India and Nepal weren't located west of ancient China but south of it. China today still rules the regions north of today's India and Nepal.
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@Sreerags5959 "Journey to the West" fictional story is an idea based on true Chinese historical record named "Western Region Record" dated to Tang Dynasty, it is a record of Tang Dynasty Chinese monk's travel to Gandhara (referred as the West) to obtain more Gandharan Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts. The monk passed through Tianzhu which is now part of India, his destination was Gandhara in the West, not Tianzhu in the south of China.
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@Sreerags5959 Journey to the West (Chinese: 西遊記; pinyin: Xīyóu Jì) is a Ming Dynasty fictional story based on Tang Dynasty historical record named "Western Region Record" about Tang monk's travel to Gandhara for Mahayana Buddhist manuscripts. Chinese Buddhists never accepted India's version of Buddhism which is called Theravada. China has never referred India or its predecessors as the West, has always referred Central Asia included Persia and its Gandhara territory as the West.
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@Sreerags5959 You cannot deal with the fact that Chinese Buddhists do not accept Indian Buddhism because they know it as not genuine.
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@Sreerags5959 10,000 Chinese monks when to Gandhara but only 50 went to India.
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@Sreerags5959 Truth hurts.
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@Huboran Even long before time of Christ, many people travelled between China and Central Asia Western Asia and Indus Valley, it wasn't as dangerous as you think. Often those people were carrying a lot of money for trading.
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@bezbezzebbyson788 Aryans and Indo-Aryans are now called Iranians and Indo-Iranians.
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@bezbezzebbyson788 There is nothing in the northeast Indian subcontinent and entire India showing any sign of Buddhism existed there before there was Buddhism in Gandhara.
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@KaZan507 Vedic wasn't Indian, it was Aryan.
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@sachinpotdar7798 First of all there's no evidence Buddha Gotama ever existed much less born in Nepal, even if he existed there is absolutely no evidence he was born in Nepal. The Ashoka stone pillar in Lumbini is a forgery, the German archeologist who fabricated it was arrested by police and fired from his archeologist job! The proof of this forgery is the town's name Lumbini inscripted on the stone pillar had not existed before Medieval period, almost 2000 years after Ashoka! The pillar forger didn't realize the town wasn't called Lumbini, he made a blunder and he got fired from his job. His malcious intent was to get more funding and to make a name for himself. The earliest solid evidence of Buddhism is in Gandhara where the world's earliest Buddhist manuscripts are found, there's nothing related to India or Nepal.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 At the time of Buddha Gotama's supposely existence, where Buddhism first appeared was a part of Persia Empire. Saka Scythians lived under Persia rule and they were free to roam in Indus Valley where Gandhara was located. Buddha Gotama was called Sakamuni, meaning the Saka guru. The world's earliest Buddhist manuscripts are written in Kharosthi Script which was a Saka language. It's said that Buddha Gotama had blue eyes, short hair curls and golden color skin, these are natural features of Europeans such as the Saka Scythians, not Indians.
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@AdvaiticOneness1 China follows Gandharan Mahayana Buddhism, it despises Indian Theravada Buddhism because it says Indian Theravada is not true Buddhism.
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@nananou1687 The stone pillar is claimed to have been placed there by Ashoka had been proven a fraud, the name Lumbini in the inscription didn't exist 2000 years ago, it is a modern name that had been given only a few hundred years ago. The German archeologist who "discovered" it in 19th century was arrested, he admitted faking the stone pillar, he did it to get more money from the Archaeological Society. This is a well documented legal case but the Nepalese government is using this to gain tourism.
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