Comments by "Anonymous" (@Anonymous------) on "Hawaii News Now"
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Oddly, blue cars, blue T-shirts, large blue fabric sun umbrellas, blue plastic toys and blue garbage cans didn't burn, while everything around them got burned into ash.
Oddly, the gigantic Banyan tree with a lot of dry branches and leaves in the town center, and Dora Atwater Milliken's $10 million (worthed just before the fire) house didn't get burned, while everything around them burned into ash.
Oddly, there was a blue car parked next to her untouched house, the car is also perfectly unharmed by the fire.
Oddly, Dora Milliken is an artist well-connected to the USA government, her paintings are placed in American embassies around the world.
Oddly, the unique special subject of her paintings is about power line poles, she painted many paintings with power line poles as the main subject, one of her such paintings is named "Leaning Pole"! In this painting is a half-way downed power line pole!!
Oddly, the first original fire that would burn down Lahaina had started by a downed power line pole at the south end of the town, near Dora's house!!!
Oddly, on the day of the Maui fire, Hurricane Dora was near Maui and possibly was causing the strong wind in Lahaina.
Oddly, Dora Milliken's husband Dudley (Trip) Milliken is an expert in land property investment and management!
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 @icebiker3Â
The fire that burned Lahaina was started at 6 a.m. by a downed powerline pole on side of a street, and it was swiftly put out by the Fire Department. A small fire was reported at the same location around 9 a.m.; it was a reignited fire from the first, and the fire crew had not completely extinguished it.
According to the FD's excuse, this time there was no water in the fire hydrant. Then the 9 a.m. fire was allowed by FD to smother for at least 5 hours before spreading to the town center at roughly 3:30 p.m. The 9 a.m. fire is being blamed on a shortage of water, according to the Fire Department. That 9 a.m. fire could have been entirely extinguished if the fire crew had gotten water from the nearby coastline!!! Would take only less than 1 minute drive from any location in town to the seashore or dock, which is full of water for fighting fire.
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There is solid evidence, videos, and eyewitnesses of the 9am small fire that kept smothering for many hours, gradually increasing in size as it spread toward the town center over at least a 5-hour period, that fire started very small, it was at the same location as the 6am fire, it was a flare up from the previous one at 6am.
At least one individual videotaped the entire fire, from start to finish, burning down the entire village!! The video was filmed from his boat on the water, far away from the beach, so everything was clear; the fire was smothering for several hours before blew up and spreading towards the town center, a process that took at least 5 hours!!! FD had many hours of time and unlimited amount of water from the sea to put out what was a small fire!!
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 @mariateixeira6379Â
Isn't it odd that normally seawater is used to fight urban fire even wildfires when it is really needed, and then there are swimming pools everywhere in Lahaina, but it's amazing that no one mentions these. Strange.
It's basic fire fighting procedure to take water from sources such as swimming pool, lake or the sea, when there's no other options except any of these and urgently needed. All fire engines have built in water tank and pump to draft water from any one of those water sources into the tank, then drive to the fire location. There is a video showing at least one Fire Department water tanker truck following a fire engine driving on a street in Lahaina at the time of the fire.
Seawater damages natural vegetation, the salt can be in the soil for a while but the effect isn't permanent, salt eventually goes away as rain washes it away, new vegetation can grow back.
Saltwater can corrode metal parts in fire engines that aren't designed for using seawater, but that will take days or weeks to do any harm. The fire fighting equipments can be flushed with freshwater after the job is done.
Coast Guard has fire fighting boats that use seawater to put out fire on land or on floating crafts.
There was no excuse not to use seawater or swimming pool water to put out critical fire.
The water supply shut off on fire hyrants was a dubious excuse to begin with, then there's the question why the FD didn't use seawater or swimming pool water.
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 @icebiker3Â
I go by fire department's official claim of how and when fire was started. It's officially reported by the FD that there was a small rekindled fire at around 9am, the fire scene was captured on video. The FD's official claim is that the 9am fire was resumed from a previous fire that had happened at around 6am at same location. Fire fighting team left after putting out the 6am fire, not realizing there was smothering under some vegetation. Normally the fire fighting team would leave one person at the location to watch out for rekindled fire, FD claims it didn't, for whatever reason, but that's not the real issue, the question is why the FD refused to use water from nearby swimming pool or the sea to put out the 9am small fire when it discovered there was no water in the fire hyrants, but letting the small fire keeps smothering for many hours until it flared up and burned down the whole town.
There was no other fires until around 3pm, when two more small fires appeared, even then the FD refused to use water from the sea or pools, simply letting fires burn.
Then there is the question why sirens not activated to alert people inside their homes. Not even the radio station announced fire in Lahaina.
Then there is the question why the police blocked cars from escaping the fires that were burning the town. The official evacuation order came at around 9pm when the entire town had already burned down by 6pm!
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 @UForgotUrMarriedUijitLOLÂ
Fire and salt kill plants, but which do you choose? Do you rather see homes and people get burned by the fire than to use seawater to put out the fire?
Seawater is actually more effective in putting out fire because of its salt content. Salt water causes only temporary harm to the soil that needs to grow plants, the salt in the soil eventually gets washed away by rain or freshwater spray, the salt is not there permanently. Plants can grow back. Fire burns vegetation and trees anyway, so it is a lame excuse not to use seawater to put out the Lahaina which homes and cars burned to ash, and hundreds of not thousands of people died! Simply due to the FD had refused to use seawater to put out the fire, because it didn't want to hurt the gardens and trees!
In many countries in the world including the USA, many cities and towns located by the coast use seawater to fight fire when urgently needed if there is no other better option.
Sometimes wildfire fire fighters use seawater to put out forest fires when there's no freshwater available, instead of letting the fire spread which can cause greater loss.
The fire that burned Lahaina wasn't a wildfire, it started on a street at the edge of town, not in the wild like the media and government claim.
The fire was supposedly caused by a downed power line inside the town area at around 9am, the fire could have been an arson and then allowed to burn for hours before it finally spread to the town center at around 5 pm, about 8 hours later. FD's excuse for not putting out that 9 am fire because there wasn't any water, so the FD did nothing to stop the fire from growing bigger and bigger.
All fire departments in the world know how to draft water from pool, lake and sea to use for fighting fire, it's a basic fire fighting knowledge and standard procedure.
There is no excuse for not using seawater to put out the small 9am fire but simply let it burn for many hours before it grew so big it burned down the town!
Coast Guard fighting boats use only seawater to fight fires, for both watercraft fire and land fire.
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 @elizabostwick2187Â
There was a small fire supposedly caused by a downed power line pole at the south end of town near Dora Milliken's house at 6:30am, that was the first reported fire that would become the source of the massive fire that burned the whole town. The fire department put it out quickly but supposedly they didn't make sure the fire was completely out. Around 9am at that location fire flared up again and started burning out of control, it burned slowly in that area for hours, gradually became bigger. Around 3pm that fire suddenly spread quickly northward into the town center, around 5:30pm the fire reached the town center. Many cars that were trapped by the police road block at the northern exit of Front street got burned by the fire.
There is a video filmed by someone on a boat off the shore, the video shows at start there was a lot of smoke at the south end of town, that area was smoothering for hours producing more and more smoke, then smoke expanded northward towards the town center, the whole process took many hours.
I have to look up the title and link to that YouTube video, it's a long video, easily can tell it's not fake. I will post the title here so you can watch it. I downloaded that video for record.
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 @BRS5Â
There were two options exiting Front Street where the cars were trapped by police, one exit was a street goes to northeast where there were small fires just outside the town at a distance, then there was another street exit to northwest where there was no downed powerline or fire. Police didn't allow cars to go anyway, so cars kept jamming in a long line on Front Street. Drivers who had been waiting in the jam decided to go for the run, they drove on the other lane and ignored the police roadblock, exited Front Street and drove northwest where they survived the fire.
Since 9am there was a lot of smoke from fire located at the southern end of town, police knew there was a fire there for many hours. By 3:30pm the smoke from the south end of town could be seen from many miles away, even from another island!! However, police stopped some cars that tried to run through the roadblock and ordered the drivers to go back onto the Front Street, back into the car jam line.
By 5pm at the southern end of the long line of car jammed along Front Street started to catch fire and explode, police at the north end of Front Street still didn't allow cars to escape. This is why so many cars along Front Street got trapped and burned, most likely with people burned alive inside the cars, because by the time they realize it's too much smoke outside it was too late, they couldn't see anything, soon passed out due to smoke inhalation.
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