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@kingking-ci1gf Yes it does. The exceptions being things like slander or libel (which need to be false) or harassment of an individual. If I follow someone yelling at that person, I've got a problem.
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A huge difference is highlighted by the mainland response to that event that never happened
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@itsMe_TheHerpes they hurt the CCP's feelings. That's a huge crime.
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@freethinker810 so you're desperate enough to bring up an event that's 54 years ago, and 30 years (a full generation) before handover that actually was (as opposed to claims in 2019) supported and instigated by a foreign power.
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@freethinker810 it was the CCP that threatened to invade if Hong Kong ever became democratic. These threats to back to the 50's. The CCP was furious at the changes brought in by Patten. The CCP didn't bring democracy to Hong Kong. They used threats to delay what there was, then destroyed what was left.
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@darrenmurray861 that's exactly not what I'm referring to.
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As opposed to the government that spent a decade going out of its way to destroy its traditional culture.
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@wordscapes5690 being sued for swearing at someone is very different to being sued for simply offending someone. I can be an asshole without swearing.
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@wordscapes5690 you don't need to be humiliated to be offended. It also doesn't need to have demonstrable harm to you. And I've covered slander.
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@wordscapes5690 what's the legal definition of slander there?
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@wordscapes5690 just looked it up. So many restrictions on free speech. Nothing compared with the PRC, given it's against individuals who are hurt rather than politicians, but still quite surprising. That's not free speech with Taiwanese characteristics, btw. It's simply restrictions on free speech. Freedom of speech absolutely does mean your can be an asshole. That there's restrictions in various countries doesn't change this.
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@kingking-ci1gf the culture is still there, but efforts are being made to crush that. If the CCP was powerless tomorrow, Hong Kong would be a full democracy on Wednesday, because the culture and standards are all there.
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@freethinker810 the joke is that it's a people's Republic. But yes. They repeatedly threatened to invade if Hong Kong became democratic. And the changes to the laws in Hong Kong recently meant that only approved candidates could stand. Just like the 2014 plan. Only CCP approved candidates would have been allowed. That's not a choice. I'm also interested in the details of the last NPC election. In particular, the list of candidates for each area (especially the opposition candidates) , the criteria for eligibility and the freedom to openly discuss issues and who could vote for them.
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@consp51 when you've got your own laws right up until someone doesn't like those laws, you don't have your own laws. You've just got a bunch of things you do that the real lawmakers don't particularly care about.
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@consp51 so you're easily fooled by a costume. And it's the same law until someone in Beijing decides it isn't. And it does affect most people. The whole point of Hong Kong was that it had a legal system and govt that the rest of the world could trust. That's dead now. It's just another part of the PRC. Even if the puppets who decide what the people in Beijing want wear British wigs. Btw, that extra law you think is so mild means whatever the Beijing approved judge wants it to mean. But hey. At least he's wearing a curly wig!
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@consp51 I do see your problem. It must be hard defending the CCP. I know I couldn't even begin to polish that particular turd. But why did you even begin to think that the fact they've still got their wigs was a convincing argument for how little was changed? Xi wears a suit like a civilised man. He's still a barbarian. Theatre means nothing.
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