Comments by "Bob" (@bobs_toys) on "China's Population Crisis Worsen: From One to Two and More Child Policy | Aging | Low Birth Rate" video.

  1.  @commoner_1  China is a net food importer and has been for years. Also, 1/10 is less than 1/6
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  2.  @millerscorner2  look at the china demographics page on Wikipedia and you'll see.
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  3. Anyone should be able to do it. I mean... It's not rocket science
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  4. What's inaccurate? The worst of it, the one child policy, is pretty well documented.
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  5. Japan but without the cash
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  6. We know what the govt says is the absolute best case scenario. Whatever the govt says, the reality is worse.
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  7. You mean a place with 5x the gdp per capita plus the ability to change the party in charge without literal civil war? That seems like a pretty huge improvement.
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  8.  @commoner_1  the PRC can't grow enough food for itself and it doesn't have that much money. You think there's a lot until you you remember there's 1.4 billion rapidly ageing people, no realistic hope of attracting nearly enough immigrants and a massive amount of liabilities.
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  9.  @commoner_1  I like how you ignored the second paragraph. What else can I expect from the person who asks what's wrong with having childish of people on YouTube, when the real people to ask ARE THE CHINESE PEOPLE WHO STILL AREN'T HAVING MORE CHILDREN?
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  10.  @coconutboy8198    I'm living in Hong Kong and have been going around the PRC for the best part of two decades. I've seen it. More to the point, I've seen the demographic data, which personal experience doesn't really help you appreciate. And are you saying that the one child policy wasn't a thing?
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  11. It was very good for business. Helped free up the workforce. But like most CCP policies, it was short sighted.
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  12. You know the median age is currently at the end of child bearing years, right? People who are too old to breed do very little to keep the population numbers growing.
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  13.  @lt4374  have you tried taking care of an elderly relative? I have. Even with a brother to help me, it was painfully difficult. No siblings to help with this generation of the elderly. I don't think you understand just how much of a population crash there has been. Or the implications of record high lifespans. Or the implications of a nation geared towards physical labour such as factory or farm work seeing a huge proportion of its population get to the age they're no longer physically capable of continuing their jobs.
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  14.  @lt4374  and the people who haven't yet been born (or their children) will thank you. But for our lifetimes... Unless you've got a magic wand, rough times ahead. https://www.populationpyramid.net/china/2050/ To give an idea of this, by 2050 unless things change (there are only horrific options), over half of the population will either be below 19 or above 55.
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  15. In fairness, no one can possibly predict the results of complex things like dividing by two a few times.
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  16. The PRC is run by barbarians.
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  17. Probably because to stop defending it and making it acceptable is to accept it was a barbaric policy. Remember it's the same group of people in charge now as were in charge then. There's been no break that would have allowed a clean "mistakes were made but we're a different organisation now" U turn.
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  18. So... We're relying on human trafficking expanding to that degree?
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  19.  @quentenpoon3677  being on the bottom rungs of Madlow's hierarchy of needs is a very bad thing and not something to be content with.
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  20.  @quentenpoon3677  because we're mortal and as far as we can tell, we only live once. Imagine if China had started hundreds of years ago like we did.
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  21.  @quentenpoon3677  by complacent apathy and figuring you've got centuries?
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  22.  @quentenpoon3677  that's sure going to benefit the 1.4 billion who are alive today. Or their children and grandchildren who are held back by the later attitude. Mistakes have been made for centuries. Why not keep making the same mistake a few centuries more? Also, you say you'll work towards it. While praising how content the Chinese people are with being in the category above dead or dying (that's what's below basic. Death)
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  23.  @quentenpoon3677  and have been for centuries. Whatever has been done hasn't worked. And not even talking about change hasn't exactly been a good way of promoting change. More like the opposite. How much more experience of a subsistence living could possibly be needed?
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  24.  @JB-kx9bx  you'd also need to avoid Mao encouraging the peasants to have more children.
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  25.  @JB-kx9bx  lack of exposure to the PRC is my best guess.
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  26.  @TheParamountChief  you mean besides the CCP's tendency to murder any threats to its power? Or is dealing with mass murderous dictatorships reason enough to be cautious? Also, where have you been? There's been massive amounts of change in the PRC since Mao's worst lunacies were temporarily abandoned. Final counter question: If the Chinese don't feel they need change, why are they now attempting it?
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  27.  @xxxcool2565  oh hi person who's obviously not trying to distract from an unwelcome subject through whataboutism! And who's totally not dishonestly ignoring the horrific results of the CCP's "successful containment" of the CCP virus!
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  28.  @xxxcool2565  as the government of the PRC, was the CCP's responsibility to not lie or cover up what was happening. Which they did and continue to do. It's not an accident the it's taken over a year for the WHO team to get into Wuhan.
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  29.  @xxxcool2565  as far as your USA based whataboutisms go. I'd say I don't know why you're insisting on bringing up the US when talking to an Australian about the PRC, but that would be a lie. It's as simple as you can't defend the CCP on its own merits, so your script includes this sad flailing around to try to shift the focus. Keep doing it if you must, but all it does is adds evidence to this.
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  30.  @xxxcool2565  you don't have to do anything (except what the CCP tells you). Including try to divert the conversation or project your own actions on others. Or even connect to a vpn to make posts on a banned service. And yet here you are. Choosing your path.
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  31.  @xxxcool2565  sure 😉 No one ever is.
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  32.  @xxxcool2565  about as correct as you are honest. From this, it's pretty obvious you've got nothing to bring to the table except a lie about what you are and a bunch of whataboutism. Although the weirdness about the chant is new.
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  33.  @xxxcool2565  and this comment on delusion coming from the person who thinks people dance around chanting that word.
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  34.  @xxxcool2565  your delusions don't explain anything. But thank you for being yet another example of the barrel scrapings the CCP needs to turn to to speak for it. As if more examples were needed. Anyway, you've got nothing to add, so I'm out.
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  35. It's not exactly a switch you can just turn off and turn on. Anyone born now takes a good 18 to 25 years to be useful (depending on education requirements) You can't be reactive like they've been, and any idiot who could do basic math could see what was coming.
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  36.  @medialcanthus9681  demographic changes like this are an incredibly easy thing to predict. There are no surprises. And those people are needed much sooner than your timeline. In addition to this, cultural changes have come in meaning people don't want as many children. To say nothing of the (already expensive) infrastructure needed to support the flood of children needed. As far as the govt being able to support the seniors goes, I think you're wildly overestimating how much money the govt has. Divided by the number of people who will need support, it's very little. Those foreign exchange reserves, for example (people aren't likely to want to be paid in rmb with how things are going) come to 2k usd per citizen. That's nothing. Personal savings don't mean much when there's not enough to buy. The cities will probably be OK. The countryside will be a disaster. Remember we're talking about a country run by a govt that's bragging about finally bringing people over a line that's 75 percent of the international extreme poverty line. And as far as encouraging immigration goes, from where and with what? The educated are going to go to western countries first, because that's where the money is and there simply aren't enough people who might be useful to make up for the PRC's shortfall. That huge population is a huge liability. Made so much worse by that the long term valuable ones are the smallest group. By 2050, half of people in the PRC will be either below 19 or over 55 and the solutions you've put up are solutions only wealthy (per capita. No one cares about what the country has. Only what they get) countries can pull off. The PRC is not wealthy. You're right, though, it's not the end of the world. Just yet another chapter of the Chinese people suffering under CCP incompetence and short sightedness.
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  37.  @medialcanthus9681  after the CCP spent most of the last century getting them used to living in horrible times. You might be right.
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  38.  @medialcanthus9681  I'm enjoying how you've completely and immediately abandoned the arguments you'd employed earlier and have switched some magic idea of genetic and cultural exceptionalism used by so many failed dictatorships over the last few centuries. Here's a dirty little secret you might not realise: Han Chinese aren't special. Any more than the Germans were or the North Koreans are. There's no magic. There's no innate racial superiority, there's nothing. If you're relying on this magic, you've already failed.
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  39.  @medialcanthus9681  I have. It's very enlightening. Yet another similarity between the CCP and NSDAP beliefs.
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  40. How doesn't that add up?
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  41.  @GGXIAO  and?
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  42.  @GGXIAO  I'm sure I will. Just like I was sure you wouldn't explicitly state the contradiction you seemed to think was there.
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  43.  @GGXIAO  my critical thinking tells me you've got nothing except a desire to spread a vague idea of "that's not right"
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  44.  @coconutboy8198  I don't think you don't know. But it's something you did seem to be denying. Unless you're classing the rural exceptions and relaxation stating that people from two one child families can have two children in 2013 as the technical exceptions.
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  45.  @coconutboy8198  so... Your argument is it's wrong because it wasn't applied to Hong Kong? Also, I'm in TST. So fairly unimpressed by that qualification. Wife is from the mainland. Been going around there and involved with the place for the best part of twenty years.
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  46.  @coconutboy8198  you've said it's wrong, but you haven't said how. And when I've tried to clarify it, you've responded with anger and geography, but not facts. What am I taking too far?
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  47.  @coconutboy8198  that has nothing to do with your opening posts.
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  48. Inexorable is the word. Whatever else is happening, it'll always be there in the background making things worse
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