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Would meeting that change what China is doing?
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The CCP doesn't want to lose power a day sooner than it has to. I've yet to see evidence that anything else even enters the equation.
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When did it stop being part of the Republic of China (established 1912. 37 years before the secessionist PRC)?
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@Daniel Taylor what about the research being done into magic?
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Yes. The Republic of China. Not the secessionist "people's" Republic of China.
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@@Shao-zhejiong Hong Kong guaranteed that. CCP promises are meaningless. Anyway, when it's finally attempted, that's a sign that things are going truly badly in your country. It'll be a thing that's launched to put off the unravelling of the CCP's grip on power a little longer. Keep in mind the CCP's objective isn't, and has never been, the betterment of China. China doesn't matter. Only the CCP's leadership does.
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So look at the child's life as described here. Imagine you've gone through that and made it into uni. Which was supposed to give you your golden ticket to a decent life. Then imagine that on graduation, there's no jobs available that you're qualified for. And the only jobs available are blue collar. What would you do? This is why the MIC2025 campaign was doubly damaging here. They turned up the tap on getting as many graduates as possible, wasting resources there. Then they produced people they couldn't use who'd sacrificed their lives to that point to avoid the jobs where they were actually needed. And who had been convinced that their degrees would mean they wouldn't have to work those jobs. What was the point of it all?
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What happens then the CCP falls? I can tell you what happens if the Republicans or Democrats lose power. It happened earlier this year.
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Step 1 is don't have Mao as a leader.
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Look up the treaties of Aigun and Peking and you'll see why inviting Chinese immigrants (who might need protection from the ruffians) can end badly
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Since the two child policy was brought in, births per year have declined by over 30 percent. Given the underlying reasons to only have one child now go beyond "we will murder your second child" I'm not putting much faith in the vague things they're doing now
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@nosey3972 was that meant to make sense?
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The difference between Norway and North Korea is the economy. Which would you prefer?
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@christopherx2216 the whataboutism we hear in the place of actual defence of the CCP is never ending.
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@christopherx2216 how America will deal with the conquest of Taiwan. How does what you said fit into that?
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@harshjain3122 the same superior system the USSR had.
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Is a 45 percent drop in birthrates over five years what winners do? 17.23 million in 2017. 9.56 million in 2022.
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@udhayakumarMN I'd be more concerned about any family members that are in the PRC who could be used as hostages if he was in any position to help the CCP.
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Whereas in the PRC, pretty much everyone has been exposed to potentially unsafe water.
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@celestialedits1715 the important thing is they tried. - 50 cent army.
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@thegreatneess literally your first sentence.
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@thegreatneess Ah, so this attempt to do a comparison is irrelevant. You're just randomly bringing up the USA on a video about China, while pretending that "has been exposed to" = "has no access to"
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With the situation they're in after 70 years of CCP rule, they're damned if they do and damned they don't. They've got problems that have completely contradictory solutions.
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So you don't understand ratios?
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@janjan55555 so you think the collapse of the working age population is an intended consequence? (Although it is a predictable one, with very easy to understand short term benefits) And how are they prepared for it?
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The one child policy was ended in 2016. In 2015 there were 16.55 million births In 2016 there were 17.86 million And in 2020 (latest data) there were 12 million per year, with large year on year decreases before that (this isn't because of the pandemic, although the pandemic didn't help) Those shifts need to hurry up a bit. So far it's been five years and not counting the initial blip, there's been a massive decline. Edit: apparently it was 10 million last year.
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@vanya757 Pretty much. I recently lived in Hong Kong. I'm part of the NSL exodus. HK is still about the best part of China to live in and even that's a hard pass. Plus, there's the sheer quantity required.
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Your mistake here is looking at what's good for China. No one cares about what's good for China. People barely care about what's good for the CCP. All that matters is the CCP's leadership. If they think war will give them another few months in power, they'll go for it.
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@someonespotatohmm9513 especially with a leader who's being told the Taiwanese people desperately want to be under his BS artist treaty breaking control freak leadership. From what I saw of how utterly useless they are at understanding anything they can't imprison, it wouldn't surprise me if Pooh Bear is brainless enough to believe it
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The problem isn't with Xi, it's with the CCP, which is an organisation designed to be dominated by someone like Xi. If he disappeared tomorrow, there'd only be a countdown until the next person like him arose. Also, your order of priorities are wrong. You're asking what's good for China. You should be asking what's good for the CCP's leadership.
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@CelticKnight2004 Hong Kong provided a prime testing ground for liberal policies that would give the PRC a way of peacefully transitioning into a post CCP world. What happened under Xi was merely the nail in the coffin of this opportunity. None of the leaders took advantage of this in a time when the clock was ticking. This was after the Tian'anmen square massacre, which should have been a wake up call to the inevitable and a reason to begin the process. Rather than accept and prepare for the inevitable (the fall of the CCP), they decided to merely delay it. To see the result of this, ask the wumao on here what happens when the CCP falls and watch the evasions. The other leaders were better than Xi and Mao, but that's a very low bar to cross. Xi was merely a continuation of the system they setup.
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So proud they've given up on having children. Because what says pride like "we're the last generation"?
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Or the CCP virus. Or Hong Kong. But hey, keep pretending that it's all everyone else's fault but your own. That'll make you loved! Everyone loves someone who absolutely refuses to examine its own flaws, but instead blindly lashes out at anyone and everyone else. And to this I'll add people such as yourself to the root causes.
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Most developed countries can attract skilled migrants, though.
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@j.obrien4990 the ones that don't want them have a very self inflicted problem. The ones that do want them will figure out how to attract them. Even if there's a few bumps along the way.
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You've been Putin'd.
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From the stats coming out, this is something the govt wishes were true. 10 million born last year. Down from 17.8 million in 2016 (and 16.5 million in the last year of the one child policy) Those are official numbers.
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Also (and this is most important) if they wanted to, they'd have done it already. They're overseas for a reason.
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@yopyop3241 which is: A. Their best and brightest (or at least, wealthiest). Normal people don't migrate. B. A number that's been consistent for literal decades.
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Most people aren't charities. Profits are what encourage them to do useful things. You think the people who grew the food you're eating did it for the satisfaction of knowing people were enjoying their produce?
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The CCP's legitimacy lies on improving standards of living for its citizens. In their case, at least for those living in cities (in the country is much easier to control) that is the minimum needed to avoid revolution. At least for now. As the control tightens, the meaningful gains required to stay in power will decline. And if there's a sudden major bump to their living standards (The Chinese economy isn't particularly healthy) then there's a revolution coming.
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@Steven-oq7dx early January 2020 “We don’t have a need to declare ourselves an independent state,” Tsai told the BBC. “We are an independent country already and we call ourselves the Republic of China, Taiwan.”
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@Steven-oq7dx it isn't. But even if it was, why is it relevant?
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America can attract immigrants.
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Even if they were... It's a huge amount required for a country that can't provide many incentives to move there to anyone who has other options. Which means that the only people they'd get en masse are those other countries didn't want.
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It's amazing what can happen when a government stops actively trying to ruin its economy and lets us develop. This progress is based on the communist party allowing in capitalism. It's a failure of their ideology.
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@yopyop3241 when my mother was teaching in Hong Kong, they had the students going to the mainland to encourage national identity. Those were the students who were out on the streets protesting over the last two years.
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They'll need to hurry. The clock is ticking. Especially when it comes to babies.
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Try telling that to everyone whose job involved supplying those goods. And everyone they'd have bought stuff off. And so on. Ultimately, if we went down to the bare necessities, there'd be an economic Armageddon where we were probably either doing stuff related to farming or starving. (What would we give to farmers to convince them to give us food?)
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We'd tried that. It ended badly. I'm a great fan of this new thing that's starting where we simply speak honestly about what the CCP is and (oh god so slowly) stop pretending that it's an honest entity.
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