Comments by "Bo McGillacutty" (@Mrbfgray) on "Munro Live" channel.

  1. Except for efficiency, off road capability, body durability, road performance and handling, steering, software, suspension, locking bed cover, cameras, locking diffs, ground clearance and adjustability.....and maybe some truck owners care about sound system.
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  2. As one with over 4 decades in the welding biz those welds are fine, room for improvement on a couple of them but far better than most you'll see on production cars.
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  3. Perspective is always enlightening and lacking from popular media rhetoric.
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  4. Exposed fasteners is a luxury to me, far easier to work on.
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  5. "'To advance rapidly we are going to have to break some things.'"
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  6. I agree but their argument, as best I understand: Batts are too heavy for long range trucks and they pretend(ed) they can create H on cheap hours grid electricity--mostly another Milton fantasy. Also the 'charging' speed. NKLA should be a penny stock regardless, falls flat economically with no path to viability. H stations will be extremely expensive with many required.
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  7. Boeing has cultural and management problems. (the recent door plug ejection wasn't a design problem but a maintenance quality problem, missing bolts)
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  8. They managed to design a batt pack as complex an a typical ICE engine.
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  9.  @ThunderAppeal  Good GRIEF dude, sounds like personal issues or maybe just a bad day?
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  10. Praising everything also destroys credibility. That they hammered the 1st M3 version is why praise for improvements really matters.
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  11.  @iainnorquay5371  Heat only cares about going from hotter to cooler, it goes in any direction equally unless material properties are different in one direction vs another. Gravity means nothing to heat, the confusion comes from fluids we experience every day, particularly air, where warmer air is less dense therefore wants to float on top of cooler air. (it's not the heat that wants to go up it's the lighter weight air but the heat makes it lighter) Same thing with a pot of water on the stove as it's heated from the bottom you can often see the "convection currents", columns of rising hot water rising cooling slightly at top to circulate back lower, stirring the pot for you.
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  12.  @musingsbymarco5001  I'd believe they were serious if that "factory" was built on top of a hill.
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  13.  @TheIraniandream  And it paid handsomely for those who've tuned in since he started posting around 2012. His own "one hit" made him tens of millions and many of the rest of us 'everyday millionaires'.
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  14. How so? Nice to see Sandy checking it out but I see nothing here to convince me of a business case for H trucks. NKLA should be a penny stock and will be eventually.
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  15. Cool to hear they've advanced that much. It's something I could put on the shelf just to enjoy looking at like a sculpture.
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  16.  @handsanitizermk.268  He's always relaxed during interviews and such.
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  17. Joking right? You can't snap fit or zip tie structural components to frame rails, lol.
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  18. That and who wants the clunky bulky crappy alternative.
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  19. They always seem to have a little fun and humor in the mix at Tesla.
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  20. Curiously ridiculous and sure to fail in the market.
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  21. Getting locked in is NOT safe, totally agree with Sandy on that infuriating nonsense...makes me want to break things.
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  22.  @GET2222  Maybe, it will be something of a test but I'd bet in favor of Farley doing the right thing for Ford which is clear here.
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  23. Currently and foreseeably, basically forever. It's DOA.
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  24. My only experience with golf was working at a course as a kid, ALL the carts were electric. (driving them was great fun as a 12 yr old)
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  25.  @Icayn  None of them are a substitute for the 1-ton service type chassis I've relied on for decades. For me the CT is the clear choice as it can be a big car, carry lumber, furniture or whatever, power a welder, etc. Go anywhere I could possible hope to drive as effectively as anything out there. And in a yr or two--do the driving for me. Software doesn't matter to dinos who don't know what they are missing, like a flip phone vs smart phone. If I want more range I'll add it later. Props to GM for offering a fine option tho, choice is good. Might not last long as they will be losing a ton of $ on every sale for foreseeable future. I avoid any new model from any MFG for first couple yrs, let them fix the early problems first.
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  26. Also fueling works out to be some 2X more expensive than diesel in an optimistic case. DOA, probably just attempting to limp the stock along until they can all sell.
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  27. Looks like they'll have to replace everyone of them with new versions and very soon.
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  28. I want real environmentally friendly leather not toxic plastic.
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  29. YouTube for Munro has gone from awkward early days to something they have a lot of fun with.
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  30. Been several decades since the name had any significant meaning. Escalades long the epitome of tasteless cheesy crap. I want leather interior touch points for starters, at least seats and arm rests, otherwise soft/padded, anything but hard plastic.
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  31.  @wtmayhew  Caddy was often considered a glorified Chevy anyway but up till late '70's there was relative luxury. They also produced utterly rubbish diesels that killed the name in some folks view, around that time.
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  32. Somehow this was a captivating review in what should have been a boring topic. Well done guys n galls. :D Only missed the trunk area.
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  33. Double hood latches make a lot of sense to me , allows hood to become somewhat of a structural element for crash worthiness. And it means a better stiffer connection of hood to car for daily use, feels right to latch it down solidly on BOTH SIDES. (my better old BMW has double, inspires confidence with two heavy laches, 4-point connection instead of 2-1/2 like most cars, Polstar appears the same)
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  34. Clearly but cred for some of their tech. Hope they survive but hard to see how.
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  35. BEVs will be 80% plus by 2030 IMhO. No fan of saving legacy auto, let them die it's healthy creative destruction.
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  36. Even tho aesthetics should take the back seat--that thing is too hideous to park in my drive.
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  37. Smiled at the spilling of spaghetti of hoses with due derision. "Nightmare" is not too strong a term for what I'm looking at here. This is not going to be low maintenance.
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  38. Probably will turn out to be.
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  39. Verified WHAT Tech? Trevor should spend yrs in the pen after being stripped of every dime to return to the idiot gamblers who still hold the bag.
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  40.  @rickdees251  I think Sandy might be wrong about the top being cooler, the sides yes because batt materials are NOT isotropic, it's more like a composite with layers of material some which conduct heat better than others so alternating layers would reduce heat flow to the sides but the heat can flow to the ends in the more conductive layers more efficiently. How much diff that makes I have no idea but I like getting rid of that ribbon winding between batts as they have currently. The bottom plate cooling should be a lot simpler, less prone to failure. Also that ribbon goes a long way so the batts at one end are going to be cooled more than at the other end, maybe that can be improved from the bottom. The ribbon takes significant space too.
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  41.  @bob15479  I imagine it's also out of necessity, he's got a lot more important things to do than make vids.
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  42.  @Cloxxki  Price of batts has gone from around $100k to $10k in that decade and charging speed greatly increased along with longevity. Only significant problem I see for long range semis is batt mass, everything else should be relatively easy.
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  43.  @lockbert99  So all the misleading CGI pretending to be real REAL products didn't concern you? How about the pusher that "wasn't a pusher", don't recall anyone at Nikola countering Trevor's blatant lies. What wasn't a scam about it ?
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  44.  @lockbert99  Their website had several vehicles that didn't exist or didn't work--quad, jet ski, Badger, they tried to make the quad look like it was turning up the dirt...all hilarious at the time. And then all the BS about H fueling, IDK at what point it rises to legal fraud nor do I care, only idiot gamblers (or in the case of those who traded it quickly, smarter gamblers) got involved and they'd lose their spare change one way or another anyway.
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  45.  @donwanthemagicma  A couple shorter ones went off course quite a lot in the middle, my only significant criticism, meaning the weld was too much on the beam not enough on the bracket. That should be adjusted but it likely won't matter much it's just not as efficient as it could be.
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  46. Just hope someone else does. 😄
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  47. I'm impressed with the apparent expense gone into that mechanism, million mile worthy.
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  48. Yeah and that's completely beside the point. If you're looking for slick children's content there's other channels available. This was as well done and usefully informative as any, good to see a new perspective on this and cam work was good enough.
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  49.  @wtmayhew  Fun tangent: Close family friends had large ranch around 25 miles from town, therefore significant driving miles. Naturally they had diesel tanks for farm equipment and figured they could write off diesel for Caddys as it wouldn't be noticed they were filling those also on farm fuel. (just occurred to me that off road diesel is taxed less and forbidden on road, not sure if that was the case at that time, but separate thing) Well the IRS called them out on diesel going to family cars and the gas small block V8s modified to diesel didn't last long, lol.
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  50.  @wtmayhew  As much as I respect GM for certain 'innovations', they had a long history of experimenting in the market place instead of before hand. Corvair, particularly the rubbish aluminum block Vega, then those failed diesels and whatever I'm forgetting at the moment.
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  51. Cory was struggling to hide his yawns, he's totally used up in this moment.
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  52. With triple fueling costs, 10X the maintenance.....definite winner.
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  53. Keep the suckers involved a little longer so the insiders can cash out better.
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  54. Very Toyota--BORrrring. :D
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  55.  @GET2222  No stock GM would ever get that far on those concrete pipes. Right now GM is probably losing well over $100k per copy. GM looks to be a very nice truck--for a typical fragile cheesy chrome plastic grandma's grocery getter.
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  56.  @pasad335  Yeah by about a century and it looks lk this attempt is about as desirable as a 1920's pickup.
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  57. Impressed with speed of door, more typically one might be pausing for it to cycle which could be irritating 100X per day.
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  58. Smaller audience but quality free advertising with the risk of not controlling the narrative.
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  59.  @simoc24  Indeed....I'm frankly surprised and impressed.
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  60. Just rebadging.
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  61. 12:09 weld completely missed and accomplishing nothing. Some of these welds are as bad as it gets, just terrible. (been in the welding biz for 45 yrs)
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  62. Great that we can still get a lot out of it. I have ME degree (mech engineering) and I struggle with the software/systems/computer stuff.
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  63. Elon sandbagged the gen 3 platform as they've been doing for some time. Surprised some of what Sandy didn't know like the pilot next gen to be in TX.
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  64. Even tho they grabbed every homeless dude off the street for show and tell.
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  65.  @vinumcopia9850  I believe Sandy said they are tearing down new M3, how could they not? I suspect this has been recorded some time ago.
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  66.  @puta1082  They got some cool new toys for 'free', I agree doesn't need any "disclosure".
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  67. How they allow incessant infuriating 'bells and bongs' to make the cut is beyond me. Poor seats a deal breaker, esp for a "luxury" car.
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  68. According to Elon it was well earned.
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  69.  @andrewm8531  Efficiency matters unless U have more money than U know what to do with. Most charge at home almost all the time rendering charging spd mostly irrelevant. Many haven't been to a pubic charger in yrs. You'll not only pay more to charge but take longer for given charge spd. CT needs to and will improve via OTA updates, all Teslas get better over time. Did a Bolt ever do that? Can this GM? How often do U tow? Most never do.
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  70.  @donkykon2094  No one knows but my guess is $250k or more.
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  71. It was designed specifically to fleece naïve, noob Robinhooders and has succeed at such to an impressive degree.
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  72. Going to jail eventually. Yeah the sleaziest joke on stupid gamblers in recent memory.
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  73. Front end so hideous I'd expect HOAs to ban it and neighbors to toss rocks at it.
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  74. Cool that they have an equal shot at it NOT cool if it's a requirement for such positions.
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  75. I always watch the whole thing! :D
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  76. When comparing charging connectors wish for more focus on the cable size, when it's cold a fat cable can be a bitch.
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  77. It's good to have wide ranging options tho this is for a small minority with the coin, and I suspect--older folks rig like Caddy has been for decades. I like SOME physical buttons, steer column stalks and a full steering wheel , lol. Lack of buttons is mitigated with a user specified control bar at bottom...one step for personal priorities.
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  78. You have to realize Jon is excited to show it off so it's hard to be quiet.
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  79. Just what I wanted for Christmas--a block of foam.
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  80. I think you are correct in this instance as they don't have any volume and never will. Vertical integration wins at scale tho....see BYD or Tesla vs GM which is going under.
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  81.  @MunroLive  Also AI Driver.
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  82. Very interesting, well done.
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  83.  @ThisIsF-dUp  Don't be simple. Is THAT all you have for them? Do they have an exceptional culture of engineering prowess and execution? (of course not, conmen don't attract such ppl) Without that they don't have a prayer. Is the biz model remotely viable?....NO, quite the contrary. If you are in the name you frankly deserve to lose it all, I don't wish it I much prefer to see folks succeed, but this is a case study in stupidity.
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  84. Can you imagine getting that sideways out of a turn? I want nothing to do with 3 wheeled cars.
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  85. T always keeps us entertained and on our toes.
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  86. Hate to be superficial but that front is so ridiculous looking, so hideous I couldn't bare to see it in my drive. (not entirely superficial as it can't possibly be aero efficient)
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  87. I can't imagine ASKING the wifey for something like that--but I know you Milktoasts and simps will say that's why I'm not married. HA!
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  88. I want real leather not plastic.
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  89.  @Icayn  "80% of PU buyers are lifestyle buyers, personal use only, not work." I fit that majority even tho a PU would do a little lite work for me on occasion, I don't need it for that.
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  90. Funny that the vent louvers are for aero efficiency but then all those needless "accents", styling crap, can't be good for air flow.
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  91. Key take away--DON'T get married. ;-)
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  92. Every narrative period must be challenged.
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  93. Nice to see the door only fits very badly, better than duct taped on as we've come to expect.
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  94. Are they dragging extension cords?
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  95.  @raveesh.chandukudlu  I don't think H will ever "shine" in any surface application. Traditional vehicles also suffer loss of range in extreme cold conditions, not as much but significant.
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  96. Very useful content today.
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  97.  @jonathanlyng3442  Elon: "Hold my BEER"
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  98. 3 wheels is crap for several reasons, that's why you never see many or for long. They come and go throughout out history always to fade away as inferior. (India is one exception but I bet they are legally favored there) Same with ATVs back in the 1970's/''80's, old golf carts, etc. Only reason for them is cheaper to build typically and in some places they skirt more stringent "car" regulations on the road and pass as a "motorbike".
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  99.  @davis.fourohfour  Get a golf cart it will be perfect for you.
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  100. ​ @Tooradj  Helicopters can "glide" (autorotate) very well from normal flight, either will kill you from a hover. If this VTOL lost all power it should be capable of reasonable glide IF props feather, from normal flight condition, aka, not hanging on the props.
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  101. Totally out of character to the point I have to suspect he's sandbagging.
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  102.  @lockbert99  PLENTY of evidence it was nothing but a scam from day one. But I'm impressed they have at least a solitary truck that can drive a few miles.
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  103.  @toronado455  Indeed, good point, but they haven't been for decades in the US. Model 3's are used as such to limited degree already as well as cops.
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  104.  @patreekotime4578  Excellent points. I didn't bother to get past the fact that H will cost 2X diesel just on the margin, before all the pricey infrastructure, etc. DOA, plenty of great opportunities out there elsewhere.
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  105.  @lockbert99  My comment was recklessly based on your prior statements. :D I don't know or care as I'm not about to pay 10 cents for NKLA....it's just a curiosity.
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  106.  @lockbert99  Seems many in these comments assume Sandy is going to have a positive verdict on N, maybe maybe not. He has a long time "infatuation" with H2 that I think is unfounded so IDK.
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  107. They aren't that stupid and reckless I'm pretty sure.
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  108.  @tompoirier2333  How is it a disappointment? I see NO drawback unless it's fake, or useless which seems unlikely for a cheap vehicle.
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  109.  @vic321344  Yup, that could be a "massive" problem. Front drive is a deal breaker for me.
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  110.  @edornelas8275  Something about the steering wheel, vents and more reminds me of the tasteless 1970's American sleds. Some BYD models look far more appealing from the pictures.
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  111. Good point, how about modestly bent rim causing interference wheel lock up at speed?
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  112. "Sandy rant"...we all click instantly.
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  113.  @timepstein274  You expect the EPA to protect you??? Not until YOU demand specific action from them first! Our institutions are so corrupt it's shameful, scary. Our environment is loaded with toxins, better count on yourself to mitigate it. Methane is a non issue, completely fabricated BS propaganda from Establishment Media Mafia that has never ever given a flying F about science or reality in general. It only lasts about 15 yrs in the atmosphere, that's like a second in geologic time, geology being the origin of climate science. Then it becomes plant fertilizer. Until very recently the USA had the "American Serengeti" with several million buffalo 'blackening the landscape' until geocoding the Natives nearly made them extinct. That's comparable to current cattle numbers. Avoiding feeding them grain, corn mainly, also has significant benefits across the board. While "factory farms" and cheap beef are a problem, many ranchers improve the landscape via keeping herbivores moving over wide areas. The simplistic notion that BEEF IS BAD is typical of the irrational, ill-informed Leftists. (yes the Right has it's analogs too) Frankly, veganism is unhealthy. Properly managed livestock is not only beneficial to the land but healthy to consume and if a modest premium was had for byproducts like leather--that's a good thing to promote responsible production and land management. Tesla for one, claims to responsibly source such as cobalt, leather can be even more responsibly purchased.
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  114.  @timepstein274  I appreciate your reasoned if not entirely realistic response. Apparently it's news to most that herds of large herbivores can be as integral, essential to many landscapes as anything else. Everything from antelope to elephants are crucial to African ecology, for example. Original comment was intended to be a bit provocative, leather can have conditioners not suitable to health either, but they need not. I don't know particulars of plastics used in seat covers but there seem to be no innocuous plastics, some much worse than others, soft ones tend to be on worse end of spectrum.
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  115.  @Carl_in_AZ  Change yes, HFCL NO , not even close. Nikola HELL NO!
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  116. I'm think'n one would burn the tires off that car hotrodding before tearing it down.
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  117. AC vent gimbals $3200 each.
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  118.  @ke6gwf  ONE of us has an engineering background and degree, I don't think it's you. But HEY...that's an appeal to authority that you'd probably use, not me, it's not an argument, just perspective. :D Good LUCK.
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  119. Very interesting. Always tune into Munro for anything Tesla.
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  120. Keep the suckers in the name until the insiders can sell....no criticism of Sandy and Co. however, be interesting to see his final verdict but I won't put a dime on it regardless.
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  121.  @gianni.santi.  Really? This car re-writes physics! And I suppose it can straddle things on the road even tho there is a wheel in the middle? 3-wheels are between inferior and pure garbage. The only advantage is they might be cheaper to build and they often skirt automotive licensing/registration laws falling in a motorbike category or something less than a 4-wheeler. They are inherently less capable and less stable, NO GETTING AROUND IT. Time and again they pop up to be different and fade away. Back in the '80's it was that offroad toy that got banned due to rolling over on folks, only "quads" exist now in that space. Arcimoto might get away with it due to low speed city use and low CG with battery pack at bottom but it's still compromised...oh and it has a full roll cage which is guaranteed to be useful.
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  122. Attractive good car--as one with long legs for 6'-1" I think the mentioned complaint about driving position would be a deal breaker for me however, I've experienced a little of that sort of cramping before.
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  123. I wonder why the CT wasn't done in aluminum instead of extremely heavy expensive SS? I think I'd prefer it in Al.
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  124.  @megatronusorionpax4900  I said "decades", 70s/80s were several decades ago. Did you miss that we are living in the 21st century NOW?
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  125. I have 2011 E92 M3 and love it. :D Good choice for the few who appreciate it.
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  126. My experience with deep bins--the bottom is mostly useless and tends to get filled with forgotten junk. 16:30 Similar to a tool box where multiple shallow drawers should dominate so all items are visible and accessible without removing anything on top. A minority of drawers need to be deeper for items that won't fit a shallow tray. (((as a kid I built a 1-ton service truck bed with one of my main tool boxes accessible only from the top and near 2 ft deep, turned out the bottom 2/3rds were essentially useless, you didn't know what was down there after a few months and would have to pull all the stuff out of the top to access which is extremely inconvenient, inefficient)))
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  127. Lawsuit settlements are not about making money, they are about GETTING money.
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  128.  @Shakazuloeman  They know 'everything' about the vehicles they have torn apart and analyzed in minute detail, most of that is intended for sale not for free. So they know very exclusive mostly proprietary 'secrets', much of which many of us would be curious about and the competition (of said vehicles) willing to pay good money for.
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  129. Heat only cares about going from hotter to cooler, it goes in any direction equally unless material properties are different in one direction vs another. Gravity means nothing to heat, the confusion comes from fluids we experience every day, particularly air, where warmer air is less dense therefore wants to float on top of cooler air. (it's not the heat that wants to go up it's the lighter weight air) Same thing with a pot of water on the stove as it's heated from the bottom you can often see the "convection currents", columns of rising hot water rising cooling slightly at top to circulate back lower, stirring the pot for you. Solids expand with heat (become slightly less dense also) but are not free to allow that density difference to circulate obviously.
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  130.  @lockbert99  Right. But that's not Nikola's claim to fame.
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  131. One of best Munro Live to date. Very interesting.
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  132. It also looks horrible. Just to look different is also reminiscent of '50's American cars. Front drive is a deal breaker for me anyway, I'm only interested to see what's going on in the EV space, I like nothing about this car.
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  133.  @PikaPilot  I already have and it's worth it.
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  134. 19:00 Very diplomatic way to say "it's BUTT UGLY" lol
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  135. They have integrity so you'll find out soon enough (HELL NO, lol). Don't assume Sandy will laud Nikola let alone be interested in the stock.
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  136. Fake grills are as lame and ugly as the fins and fake jet crap of American 1950's.
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  137. Your childish assumption is pure idiocy, wait and see what the conclusions are.
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  138.  @GET2222  I believe I mentioned autonomous but my posts getting posted is a crapshoot.
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  139.  @Houndzee  I'd consider either depending on circumstance, specific needs and priorities.
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  140. HEAT TRANSFER is facilitated, more effective with turbulent flow, not just cooling Sandy. 18:30
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  141. That's not Sandy's role. We ALL know that. I also don't think Sandy is the best at determining the economic viability of H2 overall for this purpose. I think NKLA should, will eventually be a penny stock.
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  142.  @newagetemplar6100  I'm a bit of a petrol head too, still love my high revving "old" BMW V8, but it's a replacement for the high performance motorcycles of my youth, not so utilitarian....can't think of anyone I'd recommend it to. There was good fundamental reasons for early battery cars to fail over a century ago, the batteries were simply insufficient for anything but short city trips, then charge for say 8 hrs plus before another short trip was possible. They were manufactured and sold but the demand wasn't there. Steam cars were also in the mix back then and the highest performance available for yrs, but startup time, hassle and low efficiencies favored gasoline by a wide margin. Even in the '90's, tho the GM EV1 was popular among those who owned them, and 40 mile range a big improvement over a century prior, it wasn't enough for most customers. It was a missed opportunity as a glimpse of what far better batts could achieve. Classic Xerox or Kodak moment by GM, but credit to them for doing it.
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  143.  @newagetemplar6100  Petroleum has been vastly beneficial to not only humanity but Earth, on balance, despite the severe downsides. Yes it's time to be fazing it out but it saved the whales, not a chance sperm whales in particular would have survived much past late 1800's if not for petroleum for machinery and lamps alone. Likewise, the worst of all, coal is still better than cutting down all the globes forests which indeed would have happened without fossil fuels. We need to get beyond the current climate propaganda which is almost the same as climate hysteria throughout history, the Aztecs to the Salem witch trials, human sacrifices over superstations about the weather. CO2 is a bit player in climate and tho blasphemous to say--it's almost certainly better at 600ppm then the random starting point of 280ppm which is extremely dangerously low as it drops to 180 during glacial maximums, just above mass plant extinction which is the end of everything that matters
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  144.  @newagetemplar6100  I have slightly modded, Dinan kit E-46 (2001 330), but at 146k miles there's so many issues, mostly minor but they add up, not sure it's worth the time effort and expense to even take care of the most pressing half of 'em. Still really like it for a towny but is it worth saving? IDK My murdercycle days are behind me it seems. Rode hard daily 'crotch rockets' for 15 yrs then without intention just fade away from it. Don't much miss the exposure. Surprisingly the E92-M3 is a very good substitute for ME.
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  145.  @andrewmeehan6151  Very soon a used Tesla "Model 2", or similar priced competitors, will be the poor man's only choice, exceptions for those who drive very limited miles, for them that 1994 Civic will do for many yrs. Meanwhile the higher end market already set to be dominated by more expensive BEVs. So then it just comes down to production limitations and electric gen/grid capacity. (80% of new vehicles I meant which I assume Sandy was talking about.) Tesla alone will be producing 20M vehicles per yr. by 2028 at current growth rate.
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  146.  @andrewmeehan6151  Your out of touch with Tesla, no insult just a fact. They are the most profitable per unit of any mass auto mfg on Earth and becoming more so every yr. (aprox. 26% margins) Last Q2 report was spectacular as each one bests the previous, it's become expected. F and GM will likely either be dramatically downsized, merged, or extinct by 2030 however. And YOU TOO will switch almost for certain before decade is up unless you have money to burn. I have no desire to give up my beloved 2011 BMW M3 either, but when I get tired of driving??....or more frugal?...yeah it'll be a BEV then.
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  147. Nothing will save H2 from the fact it's double the cost of diesel. The charging stations are extremely expensive, best not to waste money on that, let the few run them from a central location only refueling at home base until the are abandoned for BEVs.
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  148.  @ramblerandy2397  Yes but like the $40k CT it's not going to be near that IMO. Inflation, high priced competing trucks and $40k government subsidies will all see to that for the semi. $300k is more realistic pending a lower range version down the road.
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  149.  @MrRizzo89f  Not near as ridiculous as the bag holders of NKLA, but hey, those naïve and reckless enough to even be looking for the next Tesla will piss it against the wall anyway on way or another.
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  150. Looks like something that will be completely forgotten about in 5 yrs. NOT remotely competitive.
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  151.  @rj8u  Interesting. I'm still not convinced Munro will have glowing things to say about them in final verdict, but I've never been on board with Sandy on H2. Having a prototype that 'works' (ostensibly, short trip empty isn't entirely convincing) is a far cry from production which is still a long way from a viable company. I'll be very surprised if they exist in 5 yrs.
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  152. (I stand corrected that this wasn't the FCEV version, but BEV)
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  153.  @D0li0  Everyone has the right to be wrong sometimes, Sandy also confidently predicted 5 months ago that FSD would be ready by yr end when that was obviously not the case , he didn't realize what FSD was attempting to be. Take every source for what they have to offer, there never was a time when one can be so lazy as to subscribe to everything anyone else thinks. Conversely, a wise man can learn something even from an idiot. I knew a very bright if arrogant engineer who was working at a service station repair garage back in the day while in college--he was struggling with a tiny spring for carburetor (fiddly things they can be) and a coworker that he estimated to be the dumbest dude on Earth walked past, showed him a little trick that made it right in seconds. That's when he realized he could learn SOMETHING from anyone. :D
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  154. I doubt they want a bunch of spectators around.
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  155.  @markplott4820  My old BMWs, 2001 and 2011 do that but they don't lock anyone in against their will.
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  156. I recall some 15 yrs ago BMW 'planning' on going 48 volt, didn't realize it went back half a century of nothing but talk. Obvious perhaps but unmentioned here--most of the components driven by 48V should also be smaller, lower mass and eventually cheaper, not only the wires.
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  157. Few X per week.
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  158.  @mrknesiah  Yeah I was amazed when 1st learning that, losing engine power should never result in loss of steering but it does for at least some of those trucks.
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  159.  @Tooradj  Sounds reasonable. I'm guessing this rig will cost on the order of 2 or $3M per copy minimum, at least foreseeably.
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  160.  @davidwong825  Doesn't happen at that age, more like 30 to grow up to that point.
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  161.  @davidbeppler3032  How about some brands giving customers the choice?
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  162.  @4literv6  What I need isn't about to happen, it's a big market segment but not comparable to a pickups. A replacement for traditional 1-ton service chassis that accommodates existing beds. I have excessively expensive specialized custom bed fitting traditional frame dimensions. (440V 3-phase power would be a huge plus too)
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  163.  @4literv6  That sounds about right. Likely beyond my retirement unfortunately. "Retire" seems like a slow death, lol, not fond of the concept but....
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  164.  @Zorkmid123  Sure. I don't think the economics of FCEVs are close to competitive but there will be exceptions, niches where they may exist in small numbers. As to if Tesla say, can make the 500 mile semi without compromising payload remains to be seen in my eyes, but Elon has pulled off bigger surprises than that. For shorter range FCEV semi is doomed IMO, simply no reason for the extra upfront cost, complexity, and triple the fueling cost.
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  165. Much prefer leather over plastic, be nice if Tesla had that option but I get the minimization of options and the emotional vegans make the most noise. :D
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  166.  @lockbert99  I'll give NKLA 5 or 10 yrs to prove to my satisfaction that they are viable just as I did with Tesla. I don't think they will be around that long but it will be interesting to see. Hopefully Trevor will be stripped of ALL his wealth as a token of justice and recouping to shareholders.
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  167. These two are very good at this!
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  168.  @KrustyKlown  And we y'all know ya gotta do better job. (just toying w ya, engineering background here too)
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  169.  @ThunderAppeal  Do know your own name?
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  170. Interested in chargers tear downs. :D
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  171. For a taxi one might prefer more standard handles, not like the Model 3 or this Ford but what everyone knows how to use.
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  172.  @gregbailey45  I've only been tightly tuned in for about 15 yrs, beyond my general engineering background and 4 decades contracting for heavy industry. Why don't you school me? What am I missing?
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  173. Love to see that look! 5:00
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  174. Air filter access difficulty means it's not going to be replaced as often as you'd like or it's going to cost you.
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  175.  @TheEvilmooseofdoom  It appears to only be removable toward the front of car, otherwise there'd be all that air manifold in the way on the cab side and it's in front of 'firewall'.
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  176.  @rkan2  IDK, hard to make sense of.
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  177. How many major auto companies can justify the $100k price for report? How many are really going to be able to benefit that much minus those who don't necessarily make the best decisions anyway?
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  178.  @themonsterunderyourbed9408  Likely, but that's not the point, see above.
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  179.  @subwarpspeed  One thing for certain, Munro knows best the customer potential for any given report. Amazes me that basement dwellers apparently hating on Munro for over priced bottle opener, it's a fund raiser, don't contribute if you don't want to.
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  180. GAUD that styling is horrific.
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  181. I tip everyone suggesting they should buy share of TSLA.
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  182. 3:30 That charge door is very cheap and cheesy.
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  183. Fascinating indeed but I clicked immediately.
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  184. Totally dismiss it, not 'kinda'. :D Should be a penny stock they don't have a viable plan.
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  185. Worth revisiting, always miss something first time.
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  186. Hahaha...Sandy is struggling with that weakness and he gets an earful from his compatriots, he's mentioned a couple X. It can be frustrating.
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  187.  @oldfarthacks  New drivetrain would be far more than that, IDK what the point of doing less than a drivetrain swap.
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  188. The vilifying of fossil fuels is childishly mindless.
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  189.  @TheMagicJIZZ  What's not true?
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  190.  @dogbreath6974  Not as good yet but if priced well below and getting better? We'll see.
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  191. So out of character gotta suspect sandbagging. He could have answered that differently without risk, he banned that topic for now.
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  192.  @etbadaboum  NOT to the world, just to the treacherous morons who virtue signal whilst doing evil.
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  193. Never doubted Sandy's integrity but obviously some will and he, like anyone in such a situation, needs to defend himself on occasion. I expected Tesla wouldn't be entirely pleased with a lot he says about them.
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  194.  @John-209  Munro had a great answer to a childishly naive question, glad you asked it anyway if only for the few others simple enough to 'think' in similar fashion.
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  195.  @John-209  That explains it--you also believe in that fairy tail. Any nonsense you don't fall for? How about chemtrails?? lol.
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  196. I put that same corrugated wrap on all the wiring of my custom 1-ton service truck in the late '90's. lol. My old BMWs have the same click together hose fittings.
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  197. I too was expecting some exciting wiring advancements.
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  198. Loved it. :D
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  199. Next time lift car to tall guys preference and let shorter guy jump and reach. 😊
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  200. LOT more than $200k....my speculation.
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  201. Those poor kids, they must be indoctrinated: "Elon BAaaad" as fast as possible or they may be forever lost from the one true narrative.
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  202.  @casualgamer1209  Surely the sarcasm was obvious?
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  203.  @casualgamer1209  I could have been more articulate.
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  204. Sandy has too.
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  205. Only the parking at end was painful to watch, seems that would be easy.
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  206.  @IndaloMan  She doesn't get as much beaver attention as she craves.
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  207. "There's a shh...(shit load) tremendous amount of buttons...." 4:28 😄
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  208. Extra interesting segment.
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  209. More like $0.20/share, they are apparently just attempting to limp it along long enough to sell out. Not a chance this fake Co. will ever accomplish anything other than it was originally designed to--fleece the naïve and reckless looking for the next Tesla which doesn't and never will exist, although some Chinese names may thrive.
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  210. At engineering level he's very hard driving, takes a certain type, passion and devotion, will consume most of your life. Anecdote from one engineer: "Got burned out, left Tesla, got bored at new job and decided to come back to Tesla, "better burned out then bored."
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  211.  @piccalillipit9211  Right, and it's not as tho it was only Trevor Milton and his slightly less obviously fraudulent, but blatantly sleazy side kick, Marc whatever. Everyone above janitor had to be in on it at some level. And those guys taking Sandy Munro around the farce factory were anything but impressive, they looked like deadbeats to me, but my bias and low expectations colored my impressions. Any decent engineer never even signed up in the first place.
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  212.  @piccalillipit9211  Love Sandy but he's not always impressive either, I believe he's just wrong about H potential. I too didn't suffer the entire vid but intend to go back to at least spot check it. It will be interesting to see how Sandy sums up his experience there.
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  213.  @piccalillipit9211  He's had a long standing "infatuation" with H. I think Sandy has far more integrity than that, IF you are suggesting he's for sale. If he's paid he will be upfront about it, I think it's about actually wanting to see for himself what if anything worthwhile is going on there. Also for some popular YT content, by now his channel must be becoming significant for his biz and I think he has grown to enjoy it and the celebrity attatched. Any deliberate deception will be very damaging if not total destruction of his standing among viewers, customers, etc. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong or fooled tho.
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  214.  @piccalillipit9211  By one study--out of some 3 dozen attributes of "everyday millionaires"...can you guess the most crucial quality they share? Integrity
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  215.  @piccalillipit9211  I believe this is a multi segment Munro production....we'll see but I think there's a high probability that Sandy will toss some severe shade on Nikola, don't assume that he's taken in by them just because he's there.
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  216. IDT that would work.
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  217.  @magnusauto7941  Look how the candles behave, they don't light eachother, get a clue. (doubt you know squat about physics either)
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  218. Corry is on the map now! 6:15 :D
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  219.  @ke6gwf  How? Rivets are sometimes used but they have some obvious drawbacks and not sure if they are actually faster to assemble--assembly ease and speed is THE ONLY reason Sandy favors cheesy snap together crap, it's good enough for light plastic parts typically. I've worked on or around 100's of semi trucks and they are always bolted together thank god, can be a pain in the as anyway but if you can't undo a fastener and redo it?....then it's really the shits.
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  220.  @johnpayne8223  Still bolts. Those are the one's that have a one use nut that locks into hole so you don't need to put a wrench on both sides? If I'm not mistaken they are a bit of a headache to take apart at least compared to regular bolts.
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  221.  @ke6gwf  You are talking in general terms, NO WAY you can say any of that in regards to THIS case based on THESE images. Do you have the entire CAD details? Done the engineering analysis? Supplier and costs numbers? NOPE...so you are talking out your ass as regards to THIS instance.
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  222.  @ke6gwf  BULLSHIT. You cannot "tell by the sheer number of bolts" you are being obstinate, and with THAT, I'm done with this childishness.
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  223.  @3nityC  Sarcasm or you didn't read my comments? ;-) I guess you could take it that way based on this thread, I wouldn't pay a dime for a dozen shares of NKLA.
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  224.  @zerosugarmatcha7348  Some are even stupid. It's an "argument from authority" which I never use. Your piping in here tells me you don't have a life either.
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  225. Originally 4680's were to be thermally controlled only from the bottom. (so I thought)
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  226.  @omnicurious2949  "Most important"? probably not, magnets seem more impressive, but I too was surprised as 'we all knew' long ago about the high tension wrapped rotor.
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  227.  @henryD9363  I can't argue with that tho I'm not prepared to go that far. I'd say he hasn't considered the economic case at all from what I can tell. Certainly not here. The ppl he interacted in this series with did NOT impress me favorably either, partly my bias but nobody there I'd hire based on this token glance.
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  228. Snicker snicker
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  229.  @alanlight7740  Yeah all that about the Starship and melting points is utterly irrelevant to a truck. SS will require some 18% chromium which is extremely expensive and a lot on nickel which is also pricey and likely to be in short supply due to massive batt ramp up in coming yr.s. SS is not necessarily easier to weld than aluminum and it distorts severely when welded. Every modern truck uses Al alloy wheels for good reason, it could also serve as the body quite well with only scratching and possibly corrosion concerns. Have you ever wrestled with a door when a truck is parked at a moderate tilt? It happens a lot off road and those CT doors are going to be twice as heavy, are they planning to power the doors?...I suspect they may have to just for safety and that adds a pile of extra cost and complexity. Same for the tailgate which will likely be triple the mass of traditional ones with the ramps incorporated.
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  230.  @alanlight7740  In this case "economies of scale" are going to work against you--no getting around the expensive elements in such steels, consuming a LOT MORE can only drive the price of the metals higher. SS is insanely expensive due to the inherently expensive metals required, no amount of consumption is going to help with that.
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  231.  @alanlight7740  "Insanely" may be an overstatement but go shop the stuff for a project and you'll quickly figure out why it's almost never used in structural applications outside of food grade or other special cases. It sure seems insane if you want to build anything significant from it as I have done. It would be real nice to have something last forever without any corrosion protection yet it's never done at scale. I believe Tesla will be using a 400 series (higher alloy more expensive) not 300 but I forget the specifics by now. 3mm thick certainly IS 'insane' for body panels with any type of steel, that's about double the thickness of typical lt. truck frames today and more like 10X modern body panels. Doors, lids, tailgates are not going to be structural elements they are going to be dead wt. and somewhat hazardous if not powered at 2 or 3X heavier than conventional doors which are already problematic in off road use....but of course most truck owners are posers and don't actually use them as trucks. I don't know what sort of neighborhood you live in but I've never had a vehicle shot at, bullet "proof" isn't a goal for me, practicality IS. I'm a big believer in Elon and Tesla but that doesn't mean I give them a blank check.
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  232. 600 Chinese EV startups will be whittled down to a dozen in a decade or so.
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  233. Save all your money and buy TSLA. :D
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  234.  @arizonajon5070  I hear you, I don't much miss them personally but it's no brainer NO DELETE. :D My old BMWs have sprung folding handles, non protruding but useful if u know it's there...for sporty driving or ingress/egress.
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  235. If the CCP nationalizes Tesla I just hope Elon goes out of China Franscisco Dianaconia (sp?) style--leave nothing but rubble behind.
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  236.  @Shakazuloeman  Oh...I missed the context, thanks.
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  237.  @Shakazuloeman  CT should relatively soon be prime subject of Munro, and later I HOPE the semi.
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  238. Biden is already done for next election as far as I'm concerned
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  239.  @thealienrobotanthropologist  Great points. Maybe Tesla should offer a serious winter package someday. REAL Winter issues like that I no longer have to deal with much, but other climates, I can see your point.
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  240.  @ariip  It doesn't thaw the door handles in many situations, that's the point.
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  241.  @danieldeblasio9368  Figured you'd be tuned into that market, go for it, we all gotta start somewhere.
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  242.  @rogerstarkey5390  Think he meant two plaid shirts and a horse.
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  243.  @VK-jc3zd  If you had a $12B tax bill and were already $1B in debt don't you think you'd be selling some? Elon has purchased more than he has sold since the 1st shares he ever sold a month or so ago. If you are deterred by THAT ignorant noise then that explains why you are penniless. ;-)
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  244. Vilifying oil companies is about as childishly indoctrinated and simple minded as one can get.
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  245. There were over 60 USA motorcycle companies at one time, much later--40 odd hang glider mfgs, and so on. (500 car mfgs is news to me tho, lol)
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  246.  @andrewm8531  Any locking cover is rubbish compared to powered CT cover. Efficiency always matters if money matters. Yes you'll need faster charging speed and more money due to poor efficiency. Most charge at home overnight almost all the time, many haven't used public charger in yrs, then charging sp is irrelevant....until a rare road trip. Still the CT needs to improve on charge spd and range, it will to some degree w over the air updates. It will get better in everyway w OTA updates, they always do. How often do U tow? Most don't at all. Someone has to buy a the cheesy chrome plastic grandma's grocery getter PUs, ie., all brands not Tesla. Go for it, choice is good.
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  247.  @chrishaberbosch1029  And the CT is temporarily price inflated due to demand vs supply, Chevy is not. CT will come significantly down in price while becoming better in most every way. And what about parts after GM goes belly up w only a few 10,000 of these out there?
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  248. Sandy called structural batt pack a "brick" since revealed. I'm guessing it's structurally overkill based on what we see here, Elon said it was a C- iteration on an A fundamental design, bet they'll lighten it over couple yrs.
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  249.  @GoCoyote  OIC...only spot checked it wasn't that interested in the whole thing. No question there is room for many players in that space. As for a viable company, that's a whole nother thing.
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  250.  @kaasman78  Great point. Also he might have criticized most OEMs half as much for excess construction complexity and so on.
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  251.  @newagetemplar6100  Yeah the S65 rod bearing thing....it's big sister the V10 needs new one's at 100k. I've looked into it 6 ways to Sunday before thinking of a purchase and it's still hard to say what's best to do, how much a problem it really is. I run clean fresh highest quality engine oils and warm it up fully before working it but I have no control over the 1st 45k miles. One prior owner was a key for me. An 8 or 10 yr old car w 4 or 5 prior owners--none of them OWNED IT they just rented. I'll have bearings replaced, install new throttle actuators and maybe a few other things proactively. Beyond that it's pretty solid best I can tell. No issues so far, not a single (knock on wood) problem worth mentioning in 4 yrs of moderate use.
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  252.  @newagetemplar6100  Hate to be harsh but--anyone who doesn't take pride in their work, whatever it is, I have zero respect for.
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  253.  @newagetemplar6100  Don't normally mention but wouldn't own such a car if home not paid off and significant investments. Slowed down my work by choice but make plenty as I please w tiny contracting biz. (((Have a modest fortune in TSLA since mid 2019, backed up the truck starting at $38/share, scared myself and then quadrupled down up to around $60. HA! Shorts had gone stupid so I bet the ranch against them and 8 months later they transferred some $45 BILLION to us retail dummy's. (never learn, transferred couple more $B just last week, SUCKERS!)))) I fear a $20k plus tossed con rod grenaded engine, but we all have bigger worries. Still safer than a murdercycle. :D Gotta live for the moment some too, I get way sideways half a dozen X per day when I take her out. Never get tired of that. Odds are S65 will stay together in my humble estimation. Always eager for better knowledge like yours however Throttle response is key, plus high revving similar to me old Japanese motors, visceral, mechanical, analog... naturally I had to have that 3rd pedal, never owned anything but rear drive manuals, got all of them sideways including business 1-ton service trucks to Yamaha bike. It's about competency currency. (my excuse to cops) Never think about a catastrophic failure when driving, no bandwidth left for that. Just take best care I know how, DIY all fluids and such, partially just to get/stay intimate with the machine.
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  254. Steering wheel is tasteless, or the flavor of a 1970's American BOAT. :D
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  255. Ride is reportedly near Roll Royce in soft mode, newer Ys and 3s also better. CT has matrix headlights I hear, I'd pay few grand for those for one of my old BMWs.
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  256. Those trucks look SO CHEESY and flimsy.
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  257.  @andrewmeehan6151  That's average across all sales, yes higher end versions are more profitable as you'd expect. Production/deliveries should be some 850k, possibly 1M this yr. and probably 2M next yr (pardon such common knowledge)....tho not every yr over yr will be 100% growth rate of course, but easily 50% plus, foreseeably....leveling off toward 20M presumably. Many things about Elon's enterprises are "too good to be true". Everyone in the space industry globally scoffed at landing rockets vertically and reusing many times, but now they are all scrambling to duplicate it as SpaceX is capturing some 80% of the global launch market next yr...no one can compete at this point, not even close. Some customers are occasionally using older launch systems just to keep them in business.
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  258.  @andrewmeehan6151  They won't need much fixing other than crashes which will trend toward zero with autonomous. That's one of the big advantages over ICE but also why legacy MFGs and the archaic dealership biz models will struggle. I don't need to look up anything, they sell everything they can build. The "Busted growth story." and "The competition is coming." are half decade old standing jokes. Not a bubble for TSLA tho it is for others in the space who haven't even delivered a solitary vehicle. I understand well why you and others think that, just like 60 Minutes back in 2002 speaking with a confident Amazon executive: "Amazon is worth 20% more than Sears !??!" (stated with all due incredulity) It took me near a decade to get my head around Tesla, it's one of the hardest to grasp and that's why it's such a massive opportunity, you might see it by say 2025 and that's fine, it will STILL BE A BUY by then. I'd bet you a friendly $100 that TSLA is double by Aug 2022, no telling on such short time frames naturally, but a 10X in 5 to 10yrs all but in the bag. The CCP is a big risk for the China market but that will be diluted with more and more factories everywhere else. (assuming they don't build several new factories in China, which if not punished by the evil regeme, would make sense) Don't forget the forces against them from fossil fuels to the entire establishment of services, dealers, OEMs, plus most media as Tesla is the only one who doesn't pay the bribe, they don't advertise whereas GM, F and the rest squander some $2B annually to pay off corporate media and convince silly customers to buy their products.
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  259.  @andrewmeehan6151  1M this yr is a stretch, it will require faster than expected production from Texas and/or Berlin plus a fast ramp of new versions of X and Y from Fremont. Without the supply chain issues, particularly chips, 1M would probably be a done deal. Back in 2014 when they were producing about 25/30k per yr Elon was showing off the new S on Wall St. and casually predicted that they'd probably hit 500k by 2020. One smart Street money manager emphatically remarked: "'That's absurd it implies 54% growth rate, NO COMPLEX mfg with market cap of $2B plus has ever done that!'" Absurd perhaps but despite the pandemic they delivered 500k last yr. while all the rest were losing their ass.
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  260.  @andrewmeehan6151  You are looking backwards, things are changing fast. Norway has about the highest adoption level on Earth and it's not warm there half the yr, yes they pay a 30% winter range penalty vs say a 10% for an ICE? Seems OK with them. How often do they go over 250 miles at a stretch anyway? Stop to pee and get a coffee or snack and you'll have another 200 miles in the 'tank'. Very soon a 25 to $30k Tesla will be available and it will be a far better drive than anything in that price range and instead of paying $30 or $40 to fill it up it will be 8 or $12. Combine that with no oil changes, no transmission, minimal servicing of any kind and it will absolutely be the poor man's choice once those hit the used market at half the purchase price. Charge time for better brands is roughly 30/40 min for another 300 miles at a Supercharger, going to 15 minutes a few yrs out. Right now charging at home is a problem for most apartment dwellers but that's an easy fix, just some slow chargers in the parking areas, it will become very standard bc it's cheap small footprint way to expand the potential customer base and much more useful than the swimming pool or gym they probably offer already. Many businesses already offer free charging, chargers will be along curbs, workplace parking, etc. Toyota is dragging it's feet and going to be in a bad place by the time they accept the inevitable, they'll have no competitive software capability nor battery capacity and Chinese, Euro and American brands will be eating their lunch. Toy. has done well with the vastly more complex hybrids but they are horrible to drive if you've experienced a fun car and they will soon be more expensive in everyway. DOOMED. BIG respect for frugality and utilitarian, but I'll be damned if I'd ever own a Prius and suffer it daily...if I can afford a choice. Often overlooked that Teslas are the safest cars ever made which is a priority for many and at least a consideration for any sane person....I expect other OEMs will close the safety gap fairly fast, not so much for electronics, software, motor, battery, overall design efficiency and performance, even mfg efficiency. We take for granted over the air updates for Tesla but who else can even do THAT well by now?
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  261.  @andrewmeehan6151  You should maybe rent a Model Y for a day or just test one for free, guarantee you'll begin to think a little different about them.
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  262.  @andrewmeehan6151  I tend to agree, not the cluttered mess of a Ford but I don't like to have look at the screen, to take eyes off road to adjust AC or stereo and especially a button on the darn glove box. But there's your Apple vs it's predecessors and by now there are no button phones left and I'm fine with that just as most are fine with Teslas arrangement, it's fast and intuitive enough to quickly become natural. Much more to an interior than that tho, like the quality of the seats is crucial. How it handles and drives trumps unnecessary buttons and a big screen is damn useful for navigation and all the rest.
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  263.  @rolandrauenhorst2002  Initial pricing won't be anywhere close IMO, not a fan of subsidies but those alone will pay a big chunk of it, no reason Tesla shouldn't make bank on them... .....assuming the fundamental economics are half as compelling as I think they are.
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  264.  @rolandrauenhorst2002  Lathrop, CA in focus for 4680's too. Not looking for a big discussion on this tangent BUT::: I can better make the case for more CO2 is better than less, up to a point. (starting off as a low key 'climate warrior' in late 1980's and delving into the actual data and science more this century) Climate alarmism is a media and political fabrication, not based on science, not to be confused with being concerned. Elon's innitial reason for EV interest was energy security for humanity, that's still a thing. Air quality is my biggest concern, noise, efficiency and so on after that. Diesel exhaust can be nasty stuff, we've come along way from when LA air was stinky and brown, burned your eyes and throat and American rivers so laden w industrial waste they caught on fire up to the 1970's. Or go back to 1880's NYC when horse shit dust killed you and wood smoke was horrible. Still room for reasonable improvement.
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  265.  @rolandrauenhorst2002  LA today is pristine compared to my introduction from RURAL isolated USA in 1968. lol "Do we want to run this experiment?" Anyone can understand that compelling case. However--we are running this experiment even if we managed to keep CO2 at 280ppm where industrialization started. There is nothing magical about 280 vs, say 600 where I think we are heading. What IS the ideal CO2 level? I sure ain't zero as that's the end of literally everything that matters. 280 is LT historically very low and arbitrary unless you believe this planet was made for us, or even life in general. That's just mindless religion. Deforestation is an argument for more atmospheric CO2 not less, plants thrive on far higher levels and recent glacial minimum CO2 levels have come dangerously close to mass plant extinction. We have greened the planet with more CO2. High value agriculture greenhouses like to inject 2000ppm CO2 often, they'd use 4000 if not for diminishing returns, plants love it, ppl, pollinators, etc., don't notice it. Have a tight energy efficient home?...it's probably 2000 plus and doesn't matter. Last 2.5M yrs climate has been horrible with repeated bulldozing of entire 3rd of N. Hemisphere over and over, highly unstable. A geologic blink of eye ago, 12.5kya, Younger Dryass saw 12 deg C swings in a matter of decades, bad shit. Talk about deforestation, try glaciation. Human caused habitat loss is a separate issue and a big one, nothing means much more than Madagascar lemures, whales...pick your fave. Not to suggest 600ppm will prevent the pending glacial max, no one knows bc climate models simply don't work. Probably NOT prevent. But it will marginally reduce the risk and intensity and certainly benefiting crop yields TODAY, reducing water requirements and fertilizing plant life globally. (Jeeeze--get me started, HA!)
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  266. Very good point and well said. I didn't even know but makes sense. CANCEL Dis.
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  267.  @pixelfairy  Indeed. :D
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  268. Yes but this is more of a college experiment than anything about to be realized.
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  269. We also know that fueling will be at least 2X more than diesel and quite a few other killer problems with no solution in sight.
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  270. Not at $19k plus massive import taxes.
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  271. Radiator arrangement is going to melt Sandy's beer ice while driving. ;-) (ooops--he just noticed, lol)
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  272.  @VVashabi  What about a fire or any number of reasons a person needs to exit?
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  273.  @markplott4820  Yup.
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  274. I vote Hummer just bc it's from established legacy auto.
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  275. Stealerships can only hope to mark them up excessively, that model won't work for long. Isn't F going with the online method with it's EVs?
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  276. It's laughable that they post energy cost when cost of ownership is maybe a grand per yr as it's sure to die in 5 or 10 if not also rack up repair bills.
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  277. Vega ppl tend to be dumb as reflected in their emotional choices.
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  278. My 2001 BMW econobox has similar seatbelt crash tensioners!
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  279. Love Sandy but I question this one. Form follows function and for ME that means 3 wheels is ugly, how's that thing going to be at the lateral limits?--certainly inferior to 4 wheels.
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  280. My tyrant gov Newsom is a goddamned criminal.
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  281. I'd have a copy of the Al part on my desk too, it's beautiful.
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  282. I like them for the passenger side of my sports car, they'll NEED it for the ride. 😅
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  283.  @mitchellbarnow1709  It's a utility van. lol
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  284.  @AllanSustainabilityFan  There are no shortage of dedicated EV mfgs that also produce pathetic little boxes on garden equipment wheels for 15 to $25k ish.
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  285.  @AllanSustainabilityFan  Well obviously. But for some observers they may still have reason to think EV means compromised everything, something you need a big sense of humor to be seen in. hahaha
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  286. I hope I'm never so poor as to need a 3 wheeler. I like to get a little sideways at every opportunity in my cars I can barely imagine what that's going to be like on 3. Front drive sucks too.
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  287.  @AllanSustainabilityFan  Sure. Not against OTHERS driving them as long as they don't get in my way. HA!
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  288. @Amusis Let me give you a clue what a car is supposed to be for those of us who are capable of enjoying DRIVING. It's all about CAPABILITY, how does it go stop and turn, how does it handle at the limits and beyond. Does it predictably oversteer and stay planted. Smaller is generally better and 3 wheels is always CRAP. If that exceeds your tiny mind I can't help you.
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  289. @Amusis Did I hurt your feelings child? I wasn't referring to what others want. Back to your pedal trike Tiger.
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  290.  @lockbert99  What sort of ppl do you suppose would "work for" Milton and Marc? Both slimy sleaze bags. If they don't have top talent they don't have a prayer. Go ahead and gamble on them, I invest in real REAL companies only after many hrs of DD. And I don't invest such time without good reason up front. But you do you and good luck.
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  291. Thanks for commenting. Back to review this for 3rd time. 🙂
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  292.  @rogerstarkey5390  Pointless survey, like asking which you want to be--fat and ugly or fit and happy.
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  293.  @davidbeppler3032  Indeed.
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  294.  @isthatatesla  160 miles of range sucks too but can't road trip it anyway so OK city car if you have big enough sense of humor to be seen in the POS.
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  295. Next gen will be approximately that. Trikes SUCK, they won't start from a bad foundation and try to make it just OK.
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  296.  @4literv6  I wouldn't know but input from common small contractors could have driven that frunk. As one who has only had 1-ton service trucks for business, that frunk would be a serous attribute for flex storage, stuff you don't carry constantly as that's fixed on the rear, but extras specific to a given job. Rivian isn't catering to work/utilitarian but recreation instead. Plenty of demand from both uses case specialties.
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  297.  @4literv6  Good points on low loading of frunk, and that's a big deal for a woman with groceries or a man with something like a portable table saw....no ledge (lip? IDK what to call it) to fight over is also important for bigger heavier items, not so much for grocery bags. To be able to just slide things in and out, no lifting required until clearing the frunk deck, reaching and lifting at same time is problematic. Sort of like a small bed without the tailgate.
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  298.  @Zorkmid123  No diesel semi would ever be sold with only 350 mile range.
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  299.  @brandoYT  Yes of course.
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  300. DANG...Munro Live getting fancy
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  301. Something about the rear of a wild horse--well their entire physic actually. :D
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  302. Hahaha....I'd be abusing the car about mid way thru these infuriating screens.
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