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Except for efficiency, off road capability, body durability, road performance and handling, steering, software, suspension, locking bed cover, cameras, locking diffs, ground clearance and adjustability.....and maybe some truck owners care about sound system.
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@Madracer09 How about a few: Neuralink, autonomous driving via nothing but vision and neural nets, catching rockets from the air to make them lighter and faster to turn around, using electric car motor heat for useful work and integrating all the heat consuming and generating components, harvesting extra heat from ultra efficient motors via temporarily running them inefficiently to render dedicated heater unnecessary, dry assembled LI batteries, car running on nothing but a ton of existing tech Li batt cells, most cost effective simple efficient rocket engines ever made, produced at unheard of rates....just off top of my head.
But it's not so much original ideas that count, ideas are cheap and easy, it's the execution.
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Wake Up
You make hysterical assertions with NOTHING to back it up. I've been around over half a century and things were FAR WORSE in the 1960's when America was coming apart at the seams, cities were burning from race riots and the war against the war in Vietnam, or the '70's when terrorism was 10 times more frequent, murder rate at least double, mass starvation the norm in many parts of the world, we were constantly worried about "today maybe the end of the world" as nuclear holocaust was always imminent....or the '80's when inflation was up to 14% and unemployment rampant. Travel was far more dangerous. Or how about earlier when polio killed and crippled children everywhere in the USA, I saw the results and it wasn't pretty. We have it so damned easy today it's laughable to compare. Things are far from perfect and it's fine to focus on our problems and flaws but tell a gay or a black person that things are WORSE now. Get a grip!
Do you have any idea what the environment was like prior to the 1980's? Our rivers (in the USA) were so polluted they would catch on fire, city smog gagged you and burned the eyes it was thick, stinky and brown, and lethal, acid rain was rampant, on and on.
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I don't think YOU changed necessarily, most of my lower education was garbage, daydreamed thru it all, but I still retain info from one particular class, 3rd grade I think, on 'Japanese history', really Japanese culture, things like their earthquake tolerant home construction methods. (there were some other examples too, but that was the earliest for me)
Imagine if teachers didn't promote useless soul leaching memorization but instead how, why, nuance and uncertainties....retained the real fascinations.
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@stephaniefogelvik4756 "A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death." (Leviticus 21:9 NAB) --not just murder it's slow roasting over a fire, imagine that.
"If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through." (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
"But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
"The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death."(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Must I continue? There's a LOT more where that came from. Is that where you get your moral code?
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Norway has gone over 90% BEVs for new vehicles, they do fine there. I used to spend 30 minutes warming up my 1-ton service truck to thaw it out on a 20F morning, a Tesla can do that in 10 minutes on pre-scheduled basis or phone app, don't even need go out to vehicle. Yes BEVs lose some range, maybe 20% for a Tesla, in very cold conditions, so do ICE cars including the warmup time, running while not moving to keep warm, etc.
None of that justifies mandates however, let the darn market decide, the trajectory is clear.
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@cesilpreston IDK about UK in particular, globally it's definitely growing as % of new car sales. Vast majority in America will never go back to ICE from BEV. Exceptions for those who can't charge at home and a few outliers. I'd be insane to choose a new Camry, or similar, over a Tesla Model 3.
If one bought at peak in 2020ish, they definitely saw accelerated depreciation, demand drove prices high and Tesla plus Chinese brands are advancing rapidly, offering better for less, that's not great if a car is an "investment" but it's great for new buyers. Cars aren't investments anyway, they are pricy liabilities.
Car sales are way down in general, so make sure U are comparing % of new sales, not absolute numbers.
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@eccentricthinker142 That's the broader point exactly.
I borderline panicked for half a day mid 2020 bc of shutdowns From an agriculture region:::"WTF!! Food insecurity is what many need" However 'we' were exempt except for such as vacc passports restricting flow of labor, then paying folks to NOT work. lol WTH do you expect to happen!
TLTR! :::
(((I don't relish pain or suffering for many, but inconvenience, 'paying up', finding poor quality produce, some empty shelves, entire categories missing...at least.
Been lite prepping since 2020 just piles of spam, whatever canned crap being pushed by Costco. HA!... dried fruit, 25yr grub mostly in steel cans, rodent proof abuse tolerant, canned dried black beans, water, salt... even tho 'we' produce far more than we can eat in nuts around here. Grow citrus, stone fruits, berries, grapes, starting avocadoes, etc...misc. gardens...
I hope I don't need much of it but a couple Benjamin's here and there plus a modest-closet-size bit of indoor space, grub and basics stockpile I can eat eventually anyway. S
hooting at 6 months self sufficiency. IMPOSSIBLE to be fully self sufficient long term, you're gonna need a new steel shovel and computer, lol)))
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@bujdosotibor4674 That's your indoctrination, or ONE popular narrative, it's not entirely accurate. For example: large herbivores including cows, bison, and so on, are a crucial part of a healthy landscape. Not factory farms but done properly.
For those who favor depopulation, obviously they need to start with themselves, either way THEY will tend to die out, not those who disagree with that assessment.
Get some perspective, read some history, things have never been easier, better or more peaceful despite all our problems.
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@m.a.118 Real to me is recognizing evolutionary imperatives as the driving force along with specifics of our species and close relatives.
For humans and may others--male is protector, primary provider, DNA spreader, hunter, while female is reproducer, nurture, primary child care giver, homemaker and sometimes gatherer (be it picking berries, digging tubers or shopping).
Many implications and complexities from that. For those suggesting "misogyny" for above, U are assuming greater value of one set of tasks over another, BOTH are crucial. Not assigning values or morality just wanting to understand and apply reality.
REAL means feminine females and masculine males. Men can't be weak for example, NO ONE respects weak and a woman can never WANT to breed with "man" she doesn't respect.
These tendencies are features not bugs.
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@peterdatechmen5506 I assume you HAVE read the goddamned OT? There is NO circumstance which it's OK to mandate murder for the most trivial "transgressions" imaginable, rape, pillage and genocide for ANY reasons. There simply is NOT. Yes it's disturbing to any normal human being with average INNATE ETHICS of a 5 yr. old child. Ignoring the blatant fact that GOD IS ALL RESPONSIBLE if he is indeed OMNIPOTENT, that means he could have made us incapable of horrific deeds by 'nature' and or he could at any point intervene such that an innocent child does not suffer leukemia or rape by a priest, but he chooses not to. All powerful equals all responsible, no getting around it.
To claim that God's evil mandates are a proper reaction to the sometimes vile acts of his creations is ludicrous. Your smarter than that. You happen to believe a certain dogma by accident of when and where you were born, there is no reason behind any of it, quite the contrary. You can look at any other religion and pick out it's bad parts but all you manage to do is make excuses for one of the (probably THE number one historically) most horrific religions ever invented by man. You make endless ridiculous excuses for it because the edifice of your dogma has instilled terror to your core in order to manipulate you, tap your pocket book and keep you trapped.
If God is truly the 'author' of the Bible than it's a test, if you fall for it, if you believe a supreme being could possibly be that hideously immoral than YOU have failed the test. But don't worry--no way that equates to your going to a lake of fire, not even A. Hitler deserves infinite torture, maybe you will simply have to suffer a few centuries of purgatory for failing to use your God given mind and innate ethics.
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@michaelharrison3046 BTW--I come as 3rd gen mining background, more informed but biased in favor of extractive industries done right
There won't be an open pit or anything spectacular changed about that valley. Nothing much cleaner than simply pumping an extremely salty shallow aquifer that could never be used for anything else, evaporating the water in the sun and wind and extracting a couple components. It's mostly solar powered with incredible efficiency. :D
Those salts are from recurring lakes without outlets, filled and evaporated by climate changes for M's of yrs, massive glacial till/runoff, made lakes far bigger than the Great Lakes at times in recent past Nevada.
As glaciers advance and retreat, repeat, fresh water (always some natural salts in fresh) gradually becomes far saltier than the oceans. Lake may be Yuge but shrinks to the lowest points, again, concentrating the salts. The geology retains the brine indefinitely.
I assume they are dropping the small valley floor a little via the removed brine and the surface will have more salts than it used to...pending the next time ice sheets again level the N. Hemisphere, most recent only ended around 14k yrs ago, yesterday in geologic terms and well within human experience...tangent.
Otherwise it will be more or less the "wasteland" it always was.
Pardon caring on, sheesh.
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Kevin Bednarz
Gear ratios are part of it but have been optimized a century ago, the entire machine must be carefully matched. Nothing can diminish the extra energy needed to accelerate, NO condescension intended-- it's simple--Everything else equal; add 20% weight (closer to your example) and increase acceleration fuel consumption by 20% (only one piece of the energy required to move a car), once up to speed weight doesn't cost a lot of fuel but some.
At speed: aerodynamic drag, rolling resistance (tires against the road), and inherent drive train..engine, trans, and differential(s) efficiencies/inefficiencies become dominant. . In stop and go city driving a big SUV say, any heavy vehicle, will be automatically irrevocably penalized on MPG for repeat acceleration of extra wt., but aerodynamics don't count for much then. Make sense? :-) At sustained 80 mph say, punching a hole in the air is likely where most of power/fuel is going, not weight so much, wt. only increases rolling resistance and a few minor effects by itself at constant speed. Air drag goes up by about the speed squared, so going 80 mph costs 4X fuel (the drag component of consumption) as going 40 in any given vehicle....pardon the tangent.
((I don't call self a Mechanical Engineer, I have the degree but not the job title and I don't believe one should rely on labels, paper merits, etc., but the above is intuitive level basic physics, engineers only work within the laws of nature))
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nunyobiznez And why do you believe that site is anything but disinformation? How do you confirm any of that?
I know a few things for certain, mostly based on his own words, history and actions: A) he is an overt racist and religious bigot, B) he is a certified protectionist going back at least until the mid 1980's,(If he implements his rhetoric on that topic the USA will sink into a sever recession if not great depression in addition to becoming weaker as an international power--that's just the way it works, basic economics and geopolitics) C) Mexico may profit by supplying concrete for his wall but the sure as hell won't pay for it, D) the election was "rigged", is that why he won??? E) he is or was a sexual predator otherwise he would have actually sued the dozen women whom publicly accused him of such, he loves to sue folks anyway, doing so some 1500 times already, F) same goes for his bluster to sue news organizations, he would have done so if the NYT, WP, or others had NOT told the truth, G) he has an affinity toward tyrants like Putin and expressed admiration for the Tininmen Square Massacre H) he suggested that one of his followers might assassinate Clinton, what the hell do you think he meant by that bit? Maybe he was suggesting '2nd Amendment people' should consider tossing tomatoes at her?? I) he belittled a Gold Star hero family because they happened to be Muslim, K) he insulted another true war hero, John McCain and Trump himself was a Vietnam draft dodger....I could carry on and on but that's plenty.
If any of the major news organizations had EVER presented the slightest negative untruth about him he would have sued them. That's enough to confirm their accuracy..
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@joewilson2258 NO it's not being replaced but a given well might recharge from surroundings, ultimately wells run lower than profitable and abandon, new tech can get more but in the end it's gone. It took 100's of millions of yr.s to accumulate what we harvest.
Dino's and dolphins were not tapping it. You can look at dead algae (microbial life in general) accumulations on the seafloor to estimate how fast it's being generated, bury it deep an cook it for 10's of millions of yr.s and POOF you have more. :D
Two of my bros were once underground coal miners, they often came across dino footprints in the shale and found a few dino bone fossils. Old deposits. We are drawing on solar power of the past with fossil fuels, it can't go on forever.
But it's all good, options have never been more affordable and oil is easy to duplicate in smaller quantities for rubber tires, plastics, fertilizers, even aircraft maybe, everything except mass energy generation.
Worry about peak everything else from metals to fresh water to good soil. AND viable oil has become 10X more abundant since horizontal drilling and fracking tech has surprised us all. Massive oil shales are all over the planet mostly untapped. (pardon ridiculous rant)
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@staralioflundnv At 1st blush I would think seismic activity, even severe quakes, would have negligible effect on zone beyond plug due to above stated reason....given distance underground.
It would of course be of concern for the surface infrastructure. I'd want everything possible to be underground where it's safe, turbine, electrical, etc. Also having everything at constant temperature and protected from snow drifts, freezing and so on.
Rocks come off the cliffs like bullets and pass right thru any manmade object, vehicles, structures or whatever, even with common modest 7 mag quakes. Dad would order everyone to stay underground until aftershocks dissipated.
Funny tangent story but relevant: Easy Go is about 3 miles plus long (called Easy Going because prior to that tunnel they had to transport all the 100s of employees up treacherous switchbacks on steep avalanche prone roads to around 10k alt original access and offices)
Ray Gray (dad) designed the tunnel and the ditch on the side of it, for most of the length of the long tunnel mining process "Gray's ditch" was a standing joke bc it was dry until near the end when hitting abundant water and it filled to the top.
This was not trivial bc the entire tunnel must be bigger and more expensive to accommodate the ditch. Dad simply measured the flow from many existing tunnels per length and averaged the results to figure the flow rate needed and it turned out to be on the money, pun intended. Some luck no doubt but everyone forgot the Gray's Ditch joke after that.
SO...that plug could have been installed deep under and still capture most of the water available. In some places the water would blast out against the train cars as you passed, it was like Disneyland but better.
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@onespeedlite 1%? That was several yrs ago, 10% globally this yr. and the linear projections continue to be laughably low, it's not an Ebook phenomena but more akin to cell phones which were, in early '90's, projected to reach low double digit penetration by 2000 but instead were nearly universal by then.
It's not linear it's an S-curve, currently growing at some 35% increase yr over yr. That means 14% next yr, 19% in 2025, 25% in 2026, 46% in 2028, 63% in '29...close enough to 80% by 2030, then tailing off as it approaches 100%.
It won't precisely follow that trajectory but something like that. In just a few yrs we'll have purchase price parity with obsolete ICE and, economically, utilitarian based purchases (vast majority), ICE will make NO sense at all.
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@jianzou3686 Been to Portugal, Spain, Costa Rica, Mexico, Hawaii, Alaska, Canada, much of USA...rode bicycle from central California to Alaska and back.
Immediate family::: Brazil (also had Brazilian exchange student live with us for a semester) Nepal, Belize, Honduras, Japan, China, Philippines, Australia, India, most of W. Europe, Turkey, a bit of Africa...and so on.
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@danielhutchinson6604 Railroads ARE competitive today, may not be by end of decade, we'll see.
Like anyone else, Buffet misses out on a lot, "he doesn't understand tech so he doesn't invest in it", missed most of Apples run, messed up with Intel, missed completely on AMZN, TSLA, etc. The problem can be that what you don't understand can max biz X,Y, and Z obsolete.
Frankly I wouldn't own BRK this decade, half his holdings are ripe for disruption as is the S&P itself. BRK has badly lagged for 5 yrs.
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@aussiert Have connection to Brazil since 1970's, dad made multiple visits for business, we had high school Brazilian exchange student 6 months (wonderful animated exuberant beautiful girl!), later my parents made many long vacations to the jungles, etc.
Brazil has special place in my heart, top 10, hate to see it go to hell, aka., Commie. IDK what to expect. Just learning but that judge, sounds silly--he looks F'n EVIL, certainly behaves that way.
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@Demobot1 Any idea how hard it is for us to just send a probe to Saturn? Our fastest ever vehicles have reached some 65,000 mph, at that rate it would take some 70,000 yrs to reach the NEAREST star system only 4 light yrs away.
We have good reason to believe the speed of light (actually speed of causality) is an absolute limit. All our physics falls apart if it's not. Traveling even 20% light sp. is incredibly problematic for us to contemplate, hitting a grain of sand at that sp is like a small nuclear blast and space ain't empty.
There are some 500,000,000,000 planets in our galaxy, sure they could be visiting every one over a mere couple million yrs, not a long time. But the best evidence we have is UAPs, no sign of them at all the millions of stars we've look at for decades.
It's also highly likely that technological civilizations are inherently fragile and snuff themselves out as fast as they arise. I don't see a way around that, could be a lack of imagination or not.
WE are near the point that a single individual, any of us, can terminate our civilization, send us back to the stone age. How do we avoid that when we know there are millions of individuals who'd definitely pull that trigger if they could?
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@timepstein274 You expect the EPA to protect you??? Not until YOU demand specific action from them first! Our institutions are so corrupt it's shameful, scary. Our environment is loaded with toxins, better count on yourself to mitigate it.
Methane is a non issue, completely fabricated BS propaganda from Establishment Media Mafia that has never ever given a flying F about science or reality in general. It only lasts about 15 yrs in the atmosphere, that's like a second in geologic time, geology being the origin of climate science. Then it becomes plant fertilizer.
Until very recently the USA had the "American Serengeti" with several million buffalo 'blackening the landscape' until geocoding the Natives nearly made them extinct. That's comparable to current cattle numbers. Avoiding feeding them grain, corn mainly, also has significant benefits across the board.
While "factory farms" and cheap beef are a problem, many ranchers improve the landscape via keeping herbivores moving over wide areas. The simplistic notion that BEEF IS BAD is typical of the irrational, ill-informed Leftists. (yes the Right has it's analogs too) Frankly, veganism is unhealthy.
Properly managed livestock is not only beneficial to the land but healthy to consume and if a modest premium was had for byproducts like leather--that's a good thing to promote responsible production and land management.
Tesla for one, claims to responsibly source such as cobalt, leather can be even more responsibly purchased.
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@newagetemplar6100 I'm a bit of a petrol head too, still love my high revving "old" BMW V8, but it's a replacement for the high performance motorcycles of my youth, not so utilitarian....can't think of anyone I'd recommend it to.
There was good fundamental reasons for early battery cars to fail over a century ago, the batteries were simply insufficient for anything but short city trips, then charge for say 8 hrs plus before another short trip was possible. They were manufactured and sold but the demand wasn't there.
Steam cars were also in the mix back then and the highest performance available for yrs, but startup time, hassle and low efficiencies favored gasoline by a wide margin.
Even in the '90's, tho the GM EV1 was popular among those who owned them, and 40 mile range a big improvement over a century prior, it wasn't enough for most customers. It was a missed opportunity as a glimpse of what far better batts could achieve. Classic Xerox or Kodak moment by GM, but credit to them for doing it.
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@darkwoodmovies I invested everything in my skills, work ethics, experience, saving every dime from mechanicing/welding at an underground mine, back to back double shifts for weeks straight, etc.
Since the toxic union culture diluted my efforts with a bunch of lazy slackers, I started my own biz at 20 to set my own terms.
Anyone in the USA can create their own job and command as much as you are actually worth. NO it's not easy, nothing good ever was, but anyone of near average health and intelligence can do it.
Today I'm financially independent, drive the car I WANT not need, own modest place outright, only work part time.
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@killz0ne215 Thanks I was feeling lonely for a moment. :D
Seems I was sort of born frugal, I always suffered the decision between current reward vs future potential, more content to save and invest smartly vs discretionary spending, but I had to learn finance/stocks, etc. on my own except for some dad taught me at the dinner table as a kid plus college min requirement.
Should be a high school basic.
1st I invested in myself, skills, job ethics (work ethics were ingrained in my upbringing), education, started my own biz at 20 because I didn't dig packing several union "workers" on my shoulders while they made fun of me for working hard. Learned all I could from business friends and associates. I've made plenty of mistakes, fought personal flaws, stayed paranoid enough to avoid a violent death so far, lol... done OK. Most of my friends have done better financially now that I think of it, doesn't matter except best not to be surrounded by failure.
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As one who hitchhiked a lot from 10 to 25 yrs old. (USA, cultures may vary)
Few critical rules I learned::::
FACE traffic at all times, walk backwards if you must walk, make eye contact w every driver! (don't want back to traffic anyway)
Eyes convey character, hiker assessing driver and especially driver assessing hiker.
Far harder to pass by after face to face contact.
ATTITUDE is critical, bad attitude can come from long wait, but U can't fake it, must maintain genuine positive attitude. No one wants to associate with a downer.
(((just realized that sounds like a job interview or similar, applies generally, except for the backwards part, HA!)))
Obviously--be together, clean, grateful, friendly, run for a car that stops long (jog more likely), don't make them wait, treat with due deference to acceptance of charity. Usually they will like conversation so be good at that, lol. I've been known to pick up hitchhiker's to help keep me alert when sleepy, in part.
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@point-blank3369 The problem is that the entire ICE "assets" are actually a liability, same with stealerships. Only a few yrs from now no one will want to buy a NEW ICE car. This is just another Apple vs all the rest except even bigger motes for Tesla, winner takes most there will still be a dozen folks wanting a Blackberry or Toyota.
Legacies have been dumb, they earned their demise and it's healthy, creative destruction. Unless China invades Taiwan say, or continues the lockdown insanity, only they will give Tesla a real run for their money. Ford has a nice work truck in the Lightening, it will sell but they can't make many, aren't even planning to. Rivian has a good sports truck (not a work truck) but both of those are likely to lose money for some time to come and struggle with mass production.
Toy? snicker snicker, they like BMW (fan of BMW, have two of them, also fan of Honda and Toy for their past, not their future) still planning to build ICE into 2035 or '40! Good Grief that's ridiculous. BMW is actually one of the leaders among German brands for EVs, VW doing it's best might survive or merge with BM, Merc....as they all dramatically downsize.
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16 to 17yr old I bike toured 4200 miles, central California to tip of Alaska and back, the long way.
We traveled a LOT LIGHTER, no front saddlebags, just heavy stuff between handlebars, minimal rear bags with sleeping bag on top. Carried parts and tools for everything we could, spokes, chain links, cables.... All had spare tire figure 8 around sleeping bag. I broke rear derailleur chain tension spring just out of Canada going S, in minutes bro and I fashioned Bunge cord to nylon string to derailer for chain tension, worked so well I rode it home next 2 wks.
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@MrMichaelBCurtis You are way out of date on this. Batts are being profitably recycled reclaiming 98% of the metals they are made of and they aren't toxic unless you are referring to old lead acid ones. That's laughable. Iron and lithium are in abundant supply and while FeLi batts won't serve all applications they will for most.
Ni is the only significant limiting factor on the resource front, there will be pressure on nickel this decade which will be foreseeably required for higher E-density applications like a semi truck where mass is critical and, obviously, aircraft. Cobalt is nearly eliminated from new Tesla batts and apparently not essential even in tiny quantities. Most cobalt today is consumed (not recyclable) in oil refining, clearly that use will fade to zero.
Sometime, maybe next decade, mining batt minerals will likely languish as recycling will replace most of the need for new metals.
A lot more electric will be required, even more than when air conditioning came about increasing demand some 30% in a matter of yrs, more like 100% over some 15yrs. Fortunately we have more viable alternatives today then ever including safe nukes. I will be one of many who runs off my own roof and batt packs enough for home and a car or two.
Batts have followed Wright's Law, cost coming down some 20% for each doubling of production, the metals part of the price is not close to the total cost of fabricating batts. Price will continue to plunge leveling out well below the cost of an ICE engine in a matter of yrs.
1st Tesla roadster had a $100k batt pack, today far superior packs are some 8 or $10k. That will become 5k before you know it.
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Robin Hood is an appropriate name, you want to rob me to pay yourself don't you. What lies did Buffet say here? So ironic given your worship of the ultimate conman of all time, sleazy, racist, shyster, out of control, vindictive Trump, he never worked an honest day in his life. Hillary sucks too, but give an example of her "unstable, dangerous, impulsive' side?
I'm ready to give DT the chance to prove he can grow up and live up (he has provided significant evidence POST election to offer optimism) to the staggering job ahead of him, but it's unnerving when he can't resist but tweet about some trivial slights against him at 3 am in the most impulsive, childish fashion imaginable for a "grown up". He better learn to forget about the inevitable stream of insults and focus on the job ahead.
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Radford Tataryn You can't convert an ICE to electric in a competitive fashion and you wind up with sub-optimal results. You will drive an EV eventually for all the reasons you stated, inherently less expensive to operate. Not for everyone nor every location YET but it's coming. These things don't happen over night. Take a ride in a Tesla or better yet rent one for a week and you'll begin to change your tune.
I'm a bit of a petrol head, I have no desire for a different car, I still love my 'old' 2011 BMW M3 with that gem of a high revving V8, but I'm guessing it's my last ICE. I'm not ready to give up on the engagement, third pedal and visceral experience. And for road trips EVs are not "there" yet, not enough charging options or charge rate but those too are advancing rapidly.
Owners of Tesla's whom I'm guessing know better than you or I, they disagree with you on quality control, almost every single one of them love the car. So whatever trivial faults they have are vastly overwhelmed by the positives. Joe Rogan is a car guy (Porches, classics, muscle cars) and he says the Model 3 makes all other cars seem stupid. Damn good reason why they out sell every other car model (not trucks or SUVs) in the USA despite some trepidation for the continued viability of the Co., unfamiliar brand and a change of how one does things.
Tesla isn't just selling cars they are offering a complete mobility solution from over air updates, super chargers all over the planet, most efficient batteries and motors bar NONE, best electronics and only good AP. There are a host of reasons why the old MFGs are going to have a hell of a time catching up. Some 100 major car Co.s globally, all of them are scrambling to offer EV's but none so far offer the value or performance of a T.
Again--it's entirely normal for a tech Co. to lose money for many yr.s as long as they are growing rapidly. My money is on TSLA, it's risky but has massive potential. Go ahead and bet against me!
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That might be OK but I sure wouldn't push it on an expensive vehicle especially if you intend to keep it long term. One reason I do it more often is because I believe BMW (and others) like to maximize maintenance intervals on their cars as a selling point, even at the cost of shortening the engine life as it "will last long enough anyway". My 2011 M3 has 9 liters oil cap in part to extend interval, but it's a high strung, $20,000 motor, I won't let it look dirty or stay in there over 6 months/4k to 5k miles, even at some $200 for oil change supplies alone. Spending twice as much on oil as I need to is cheap peace of mind. Doing it myself keeps me in touch with the condition of crucial components, oil leaks, etc. Frequent oil change means better maintenance in all areas as I wind up checking all the fluids, filters, and so on.
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@SheLeftMeUnsupervised Tires, cabin filter, washer fluid, wiper blades, that's all a Tesla needs. Brakes essentially never wear out because regenerative braking is used exclusively w few exceptions--emergencies, on a track (doesn't apply to you or most others) or if batt is briefly at 100% already.
As a typical utilitarian car user, YOU will be in a BEV before you know it, few yrs. Apartments will provide chargers or become obsolete, it's not expensive or difficult. Tesla tells you exactly where chargers are and everything you want to know about them and they always work. You just plug in and walk away, no card no other transaction required.
Frugal and poor ppl will have plenty of options but only one drive train type to chose from--BEV. They are 3 to 4X less to operate. Poor will be the biggest beneficiaries of this revolution.
I still prefer my 'old' BMWs, I can afford them, I wouldn't recommend to others nor will I ever spend much on an ICE for a daily driver again, just don't make sense.
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@susanfarley1332 Where you are wrong is to except humanity, we are just another animal species with a large impact both good and bad. Beavers, hippos, bison, caribou, whales, everything alters the landscape.
Yes WE have to be much more deliberate and conscientious about it with our tech powers, but we will probably stop the next cosmic impactor which is hard to say is anything but a good result.
From a Ghia Hypothesis perspective, humans may be here to protect the planet, to do vastly more good than harm. It's not popular belief but CO2 has become dangerously low in recent millions of yrs, near levels where mass plant extinctions would happen during glacial maximums. Plants can't exist much below 150ppm and 180 has happened geologically very recently. That is extremely dangerous territory for ALL life on Earth. CO2 is as essential as water.
NO question plant life is benefiting from higher CO2 and more drought tolerant. That doesn't mean we want 1000ppm say, but I think 500 is better than 280 where we started. The rate of change may be alarming but the magnitude so far is not, life thrived at 10,000ppm. In a modern house you probably have some 2000 often. Meanwhile the obsolescence of fossil fuels is in sight, vast majority of remaining reserves will be left in the ground.
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@VR_Wizard I used to believe like you and for the same reasons, it took me a decade of study to gradually find something closer to the truth. You are correct, it's not easy but it is important.
I'd urge you to look what we bought into over recent decades, as a substitute for doing the hard work I've done, compare what Al Gore predicted by now or any number of other catastrophe predictions 10 to 25 yrs back. There were signs in Glacier Park, MT, that said "These glaciers will be gone by 2020", only the signs are now gone. 2011: "Sever drought will be the new normal for Texas." Flooding has been a much bigger problem in recent yrs.
The fact that extreme weather events have NOT increased is well known and anyone claiming otherwise should be immediately dismissed.
One should be skeptical of everything but especially the dogma of the day. I've looked at the raw data, reams of it, and it supports what I've posted here. Natural climate drivers dwarf CO2 effects. (water vapor is by far the primary greenhouse gas on Earth BTW)
The ice age for the last few million yrs that we are still in has been near all time low CO2 levels marked by devastating climate swings. IF CO2 was the driver we'd never escape a glacial maximum because that's when albedo is max (ice sheets reflect most solar energy and ice free oceans are minimized, liquid water is the best natural absorber of solar energy, much better than land) CLEARLY something much more powerful is responsible.
Plant life is expected to enter mass extinction, which could be far worse than even the KT dino extinction event, at some 100 to 150ppm CO2. Recent glacial maximums have seen scary low CO2 levels of around 180ppm.
It would be quite the coincidence if 280ppm, a random low value, happened to be best for us or life on Earth, hmmm? Certainly is not best for plant life or food production, also not controversial is the greening of Earth from higher CO2 levels. Commercial greenhouses typically use 2000ppm to accelerate production.
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@fliteshare What's really sad is such toxic bullshit narratives like yours aren't instantly smacked down. Shocking to me that you could be this detached from successful ppl.
I know endless examples of starting from nothing and achieving from modest wealth (me) to multi-ten millions as for many of my customers, friends and associates.
I started as a laborer in an underground mine-mill at 17, got certified in welding, started welding contracting biz at 20, broke and green as hell, no TV, sound system nor toys...just a worn out econobox and an old 1-ton Chevy I had to rebuild.....nothing to be proud of, just the minimum requirement of being a MAN, like integrity, honesty, self reliance...
....well--I could prattle on endlessly how to be successful and it wouldn't matter, you are more concerned about avoiding personal responsibility and the necessity of effort than pursuit of happiness and achievement. It's the only explanation for your gross self deception which will, naturally, become your result. You choose your own own life limits.
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@toddlatorreofficial A few of the things that were broadly censored in recent yrs, banned by evil social media across the board, YouTube, etc., punished by GoFundMe and PayPal....:
Hunter's laptop, pointless unconstitutional destructive lockdowns, masking young children and school closures, forced experimental injections, if Covid came from a lab leak (hint--yes it did), anything that questioned the One True Narrative or that such rampant government supported (and mandated) censorship, cancelling and shadow banning was even happening.
You might want to revisit the work of George Orwell, we are living it.
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@fatalconceit9713 Actually most of those folks trim on a spike and buy on a discount which is timing. Buffet is famous for saying, paraphrased: "'Buy when everyone's panicking sell when everyone is euphoric.'" So even he "trades" or "times" to some extent. They are experts and don't follow the advice they offer necessarily but still correct to advise against it as it's just too hard, but I invest much more time/effort than they expect us little retailers to do and I don't kid myself about thinking I can beat the market in general, still there are better and worse times to buy and sell, add and trim.
I had some solid reasons not to own Tesla for the last 4 yr.s and compelling reason to buy before the quarter and so far that was right, one example. In THAT sense it's foolish not to "time" the market, normally it's not ALL IN or ALL cash but somewhere in the middle. I had a lot of compelling reasons to suspect the recent sell off, never before went 3/4s cash it was partially just luck as I was way to heavy tech. and need to reballance, tech had run hard for a long time, so I sold almost all of the high flyers fortunately, trickling back in now. Better to be lucky than good they say. Hard to argue with success tho, hmm? ;-) In a sense it's always necessary to 'time', when the fundamentals change you need to change with them...be pretty sad to have held GE for the last couple yr.s even if you owned it for the prior 20 yr.s, the story changed over time, better change with it. Also there were major warning signs before the 2008/9 crash and it would have been very 'smart' (or lucky) to scale back or get out then back in quickly after the dramatic bounce, be WAY ahead doing so.
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Duke Zivic
Today's truck driver can find other things to do, for a while, if they are too lazy to advance their education and learn some respectable skills. Some can put chains on autonomous trucks and remove them on the other side, air tires, wash 'em, etc., things that teenagers do today. There will be all sorts of new careers created as well, that pay far more than driving a truck, but most truckers may not have the gumption to prepare themselves for those.
For many, like my #1 customer, they can't wait to get rid of truck drivers , the biggest headache in their business. They fuckup a LOT, crash for stupid reasons, tip over due to speed, get hit by a train, cause serious injuries to others on the road resulting in multi-million dollar lawsuits and high insurance rates, they are ungrateful, bitchy and don't want to do anything but sit in the cab, they cause problems with other employees.... The world will be a better place without truckers.
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@xavierdaume2757 Yes it's a partial definition of Libertarian. Do you even know what Libertarian means?
Let me help: It means individual AUTONOMY, it means you cannot encroach on my liberties as long as they don't directly impact you. Liberty and justice. One may produce and trade value for value. It does not respect societies assessment of risk/reward but leaves that to the individual. That YOUR LIFE is truly YOURS alone, not the states, not the mob or society at large.
Get your kicks from riding a skateboard down a grade at 70mph? Fine as long as the risk to others is acceptable...yes there are gray areas.
It does not protect you from the results of another individual's failure but allows failure and success equally, those two are inextricably linked. Limit the potential for failure, be it workaholicism, sloth or mind altering substances like alcohol, and you limit success as well. "My right to swing my arms ends at your face"
It also means it's none of your biz if a neighbor is guy and having sex with another dude or getting drunk at home. NOT your problem not your right to interfere. Beginning to get it? Live and let live and let die if that's their choice.
It means you can lock yourself down but NOT ME without due process, my rights to travel, work, live as I like are not yours to infringe on. It means you can choose to be injected with experimental vacc but NOT force or coerce ME to do the same. Can you live with that??
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@Jacob Zondag Supernova's are one of the most violent happenings in the universe, they briefly outshine an entire galaxy of 100's of billions of stars combined, we can see them across the universe. They also create most of the heavy elements where as the sun stops at iron which is too stable to easily fuse and ends the process unless the mass is great enough whence supernovas happen. Those explosions inject huge areas with all the elements we and Earth are made of. The old saying 'we are star dust' is literally true.
Some of the heaviest elements are probably not created even in supernovas however, gold, platinum group, etc., are probably only created in neutron stars colliding with eachother...my current understanding anyway.
About once per century or so we can expect a supernova in our galaxy, the nearest one ready to detonate, many times the size of the sun(sometimes pronounced 'Beatle juice')is the orange looking star in the Orion constellation and expected to detonate soon, with in a million yr.s or so, it's axis of rotation is fortunately not lined up with us or we could be in trouble with that one, could sterilize Earth, strip the atmosphere, as they emit extreme jets of high energy radiation from the poles. This is the reason that the galactic "habitable zone" is considered not near the center of the galaxy where stars are dense and explosions relatively common. ((pardon if that's TMI))
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@Gardillus Maybe you should actually tune into Munro, you obviously don't know anything about him, but HEY you already know everything better than anyone else on the planet so you are done learning. Right? Did you even notice that he started off panning the Model 3?? Yes they had serious production issues in the beginning, much of it due to hubris, but they quickly learned and changed. That's ancient history.
T. just posted 28% profit margins across all their vehicles even while clearly offering by FAR the best values with exception of cheap "golf cart" like minimalist segment that they don't yet participate in. Anyone else making such profits at scale?
Have you bothered to notice the critical vids on T. auto pilot/FSD? As I said before it's the ONE area T. should be embarrassed concerning time frames currently. (yes they were very late in past yr.s but over delivered on specs) As flawed as it is it's continuously incrementally advancing and those who have it usually, some exceptions, love it.
Customers almost universally love the cars and FSD at $8k, those who opt for it, think it's easily worth it--most of your ascertions are simply proven false. When a car be autonomous without geo limits is hard to say but I'm sure Elon is a hell of a lot smarter than you, no offense, and he has reason to believe it's going to work with the hardware they have. (some of the older cars did need upgraded computers which Tesla did for free BTW).
Our roads are entirely set up for VISUAL cues, that implies a mostly passive visual system should not only be one viable approach but essential. Lidar can't see lines, signs, etc. But there will be multiple autonomous solutions from multiple players and that's a good thing.
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@Gardillus Tesla didn't claim their chip was 3 yr.s ahead, independent experts said it. Tesla was always busy with the next version anyway. Huge number of startups for all sorts of things as always, most won't make it far but competition is good and necessary.
You can call me an idiot, that's fine, we don't know eachother it doesn't mean anything. However--by extension you are also calling the likes of Chamath Palihapitiya an idiot which should give you pause, it might not seem to matter if you aren't involved in stocks anyway but the implications are so massive you should want to know for general purposes. Your life and business WILL BE effected in profound ways, I can't say precisely how of course, not knowing what biz you are in, but major shifts are just beginning.
How we move around, power and invest in our homes and businesses, utilities...auto mechanic shops will briefly thrive then die. (body shops will still be needed but auto mechanics and parts stores will become obsolete in time) Surface transport liquid fuels will begin to disappear along with all fossil fuels, coal was 1st to get hit hard but that's only the start. The implications are sweeping. Ultimately we will all live in a cleaner, significantly more prosperous environment.
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Pardon lengthy reply:::
YOU were using those terms and challenging my definitions...but fine let's get away from loaded terms after one last reference.......
"To each his need, from each his ability." Sound familiar? Sound good or prescription for hell? Sound approximately like Bernie's agenda? That quote defines Communism accurately in a single short sentence and results in total destruction of everything that matters, environment to basic human rights and obviously prosperity.
Top 10% pay 70% of taxes in America. Poor pay zero income tax which is fine, and they receive all sorts of help, also fine. I have limited sympathy for those reproducing before they can even take care of themselves, that's the norm in many instances and utterly irresponsible.
Any idea how hard it is to find a skilled 'man' with integrity for any number of trade jobs? Anyone with any business having a family can make 6 figures and more in the trades today and for decades.
Instead of wiping out luxury industries and the jobs associated with them, which your proposals would obviously do--how about addressing the extreme waste in government 1st?
Interesting you talk about "gamer chair" as tho anyone struggling has any biz playing games ! Seriously?? Why does wealth equality even matter? To me it's all about absolute wealth , it matters NONE to me that someone else has achieved 1M X more prosperity that I as long as I have a shot at prosperity also and we in America all have plenty of opportunity .
Poverty is obscene, excess wealth NEVER IS, but that's exactly what Bernie promotes. He'd be fine with universal poverty which of course is equality of results not equality of opportunity and the results of Bernie's agenda. (as long as he was one of the chosen ruling class living in privilege)
"The most successful form of Capitalism is slavery"
pure indoctrinated BULLSHIT Exactly equivalent to saying "freedom of movement and thought is rape murder and pillaging" Free enterprise is NOT OPTIONAL, it's called Capitalism and it does NOT include slavery, utterly idiotic and obviously taught to you by Marxists. NO one would come up with that nonsense on their own.
(((if you'll entertain the notion I'll explain what free enterprise looks like on a very small simple scale while removing the abstraction of money from the discussion as 'everyone' get's tripped up on that concept)))
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@wylldflower5628 Not sure what "new thinking" applies here. All in rough approximations: plates move on the order of 1 to 3 centimeters per yr relative to each other, but they 'stick' grind and flex (wind up) near faults.
Intuitively, they make up for a century or 3 all at once when they rupture, longer the wait the bigger the slip/energy released.
4 or 6 on Richter Scale are tiny compared to an 8, a 9 is more than 10X bigger than an 8. On the higher end, sudden offsets of several meters happen. (Problem with log scales is ppl don't understand them, but otherwise we'd be talking about a 10 to a 1M quake)
4 is barely perceivable, a 6 won't likely wake you up, a 9 may level your house but certainly will define your yr if nearby.
Plates are driven by viscous magma under the influence of massive convection currents, they can only move so fast, reliving the stress won't have much effect on average plate movement.
Stands to reason that if you could frack entire fault line, say('grease' it hypothetically), gradual movement is safe, pent up energy, wound spring release is not.
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@BetterDeadThanRed99 Replace "force" with voluntary trade in almost every one of those situations above. Your conclusions are laughably overstated to go along with the rest of the hyperbole.
In effect you are saying everyone else in the world are idiots for taking our dollars for anything They take 'em as a bet on the future productivity of America which has always worked in the past. Yes we may see double digit inflation, possibly as bad as early 1980's even and we may forfeit the dollar as reserve currency.
We export airliners, computers, military hardware (perhaps unfortunately), ALL SORTS of agriculture goods, 80% of the vast fields of almonds/walnuts produced in N. Cali are exported, soy beans, corn, coal, software, Tesla cars, all sorts of high tech stuff, on and on and on....
I've lived thru SO MANY doomsday prognostications I can't even remember them all in one sitting. One thing they all had in common--the folks making the predictions always did so with arrogant superiority and high confidence, sometimes they are even convincing. And those who believed in them usually paid very high price for their self deception.
What's your personal reaction to your brilliant predictions? Paralysis? A bunker with a decade of food water and ammunition? Piles of gold bullion and bitcoin?
I have high indispensable skills that will be useful for trading short of a nuclear holocaust or KT extinction event, along with growing self sufficiency on my own modest lot and 6 moths of emergency long term food stores and relations with highly productive farmers.
Meanwhile I continue to advance my life and build real assets, I can retire comfortably today but I can also continue to create $150/hr. I just refuse to work long hrs per week anymore and I wouldn't sit on large quantities of cash regardless....$20k max.
As a child I lived thru over a decade of very real threat of thermal nuclear exchange with the USSR.... that was far worse than any of your fears and it was entirely justified paranoia. Everyday could be our last. Yet we kept on living and investing and most of us became prosperous. (frankly we should fear an accidental nuking much more than we do, but that's a tangent)
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@garethdean6382 I thought the concept was dubious when I first heard of it early '90's. Since having learned how common, over millions of yr.s, stuff get's blasted off planets and moons from impacts above escape velocity and land on Earth and every other body, with only surface cooking, many microbes could survive the interior of a small meteor frag., high G's means nothing to them. They are fairly cool by the time they hit the ground interior doesn't get hot necessarily, at least hitting Earth we know and we can simulate the rest.
We can resurrect multi million yr. old 'dead' organisms dug deep out of Earth (so I'm told). Certainly 40k yr. frozen bacteria come back to live when thawed. We retrieved a camera left on our moon for several months, some insulation in the cam was infested with happy bacteria....from Earth but a surprise. Bacteria thriving in boiling hot springs, on the surface of the space station (reportedly from contact with near zero atmosphere!) Thriving in nuclear reactors, 2 miles below our feet in solid rock with extremely low metabolism....on and on and on....
It's easier for me to comprehend that then abiogenesis happening as fast as it needed to on Earth...NOT ruling that out but the stage could be astronomic instead of just Earth. I can connect the dots on inter stellar panspermia likelihood, previously I'd only said within the solar system. Now I realize star systems even get ejected from their galaxy, shotgunned across the local cosmos if they can take their planets with them they will deliver life to neighboring galaxies occasionally! (yes that could take billions of yr.s, wild idea but I believe in the persistece of MICROBIAL life to that degree, I'd bet big bucks we find microbes on half a dozen Sat./Jupiter moons and Mars and I'd bet a little that it's related to Earth life)
Pardon my rant! :D
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@jeremytine You are still manipulated by establishment propaganda and nonsense. Vast majority of Tesla "defects" were over the air software fixed in days. Owners didn't even need to know about them. (other mfgs can't even do OTA). Corrupt Consumer Reports simply tallies the 'defects' as tho a Toyota's wheels falling off (it's BEV) is the same as a paint defect.
How does one know your Tesla info is bullshit? Because there is no brand even close on owner loyalty and satisfaction despite some flaws that are fewer every month. Many don't like the stiffer ride, I get that and so does Tesla, new versions have softer ride, and SO ON. Whatever real you may have learned about Tesla from last yrs news is history, they iterate constantly.
ALL legacy autos spend billions (some "only" half a B) every yr advertising, aka., manipulating public opinion and purchasing media propaganda.
Your Prius is crap in the Sierras, my neck o woods, batt range runs out in the foothills then it's rubbish ICE struggles for next 3 hrs whilst you fearfully study rearview hoping to not be rear-ended by a bicycle.
If you think hybrids have a future in a BEV world you are simply WAY out of touch. OK I got it, anyone who owns a Prius hates driving. (I can see why) But how about a car that costs 1/4 as much to operate and needs nothing but tires and windshield washer fluid?
Might you actually learn to enjoy driving if it wasn't a wobbly wagon with atrocious handling and acceleration? How about safety? You'll be dead in your Prius in an accident you'll walk away from in a Tesla, simple fact.
You WILL go BEV for one reason--economics, probably sooner than you think. There will be nothing about your 20th century antique you miss.
I'm done with this silliness now. Have a nice yr!
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@The-Wide-Angle Aprox 1.5C higher in Medieval Warm Period, not disputable, IDK what you are talking about, if averaging over longer time period including Little Ice Age, it can be lower than today by fraction of a degree.
How do you account for Warm Period, Little Ice Age or regular devastating ice ages. Can't be CO2!
Water vapor accounts for 70% of greenhouse effect and a host of other gasses make up the rest, CO2 a small player that diminishes as it increases, that is each additional amount add has less effect than the prior same additional increase.
YES there is a tight corolation, most of the time, between CO2 levels and temperature, as often as not, CO2 lags temperature, not the other way around. That makes sense as oceans harbor 40X more than the atmosphere and warmer water holds less CO2.
So which is driving which? Seems to be temp driving CO2, not the other way around, prior to humanities influence at least.
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@ardendragoon NOPE. YOU are being sold a crock of crap. We subsidize the hell out of fossil fuels, trillions just in the US Navy to protect oil shipping lanes alone. MY income taxes when that should come from the gas pump...oh well, life ain't fair, never was.
Batts are completely recyclable endlessly, high grade ORE. You are WAY out of date. I don't own or want an EV, still love my 3-pedal BMW V8, don't be a presumptuous prick.
My Commifornia is a joke and those mandates don't mean SHIT, they are irrelevant. The transition is happening way faster than that all by itself despite the vastly higher rate of subsidies for fossil fuels.
Until next yr Teslas haven't had any subsidies in yrs, let alone balancing the fossil fuel subsidies, yet they out sell everything else in Commifornia bc they are just BETTER.
You'll soon see, not going to argue further.
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@anthonyjaccard3694 Don't fear more atmospheric CO2, actual SCIENCE does not support the propaganda hysteria. CO2 is a bit player in climate, not remotely the driver, not at these levels. (not to say it's trivial)
Mass plant life extinction, the end of everything that matters, is expected around 150ppm, we've seen as low as 180 in recent glacial maximums, very scary lows. Next glacial max could be coming at anytime, we are "due" for it. But climate models don't work so we don't know.
Last 2.5M yrs climate has been horrific with much more time under devastating ice sheets (for much of N. Hemisphere) than these brief interglacial, relatively life friendly periods. More CO2 is probably better than less.
I welcome all viable options, and this one is interesting, but 40% efficiency isn't remotely competitive with batts at 90% plus. These carbon 'batts' may well still have their place.
Let the market sort it out, every input is accounted for in cost, including energy required to manufacture.
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@jdearr1 A few fun facts from the IPCC:
1) hurricanes have NOT increased in frequency or intensity in the last century (true for extreme weather in general)
2) Greenland ice sheet has melted at the same rate for the last 80 yrs.
3) human induced climate change will not have significant economic impact globally this century. (actually an opinion, not a fact yet obviously)
Extra CO2 simply does make plants grow better and more drought tolerant, simple FACT regardless of it's inconvenience to media indoctrination. Popular media has never understood nor cared to understand science. They are all about gaining your attention, nothing else.
Levels have been way LOW in recent millions of yrs which happens to coincide with climate instability and the devastating ice age which we are still in...just happen to be in a glacial minimum currently which don't last as long as the destructive maximums. Dangerously low to the point that during glacial maximums it approaches levels where mass plant extinctions would begin, causing general mass extinction like no one has even contemplated.
Balance??? WTF are you talking about? There is no such thing in this context. What makes you think this historically extremely low CO2 level is best for us or life on Earth? CO2 is as essential for plants as water and sunlight. Calling it a pollutant is utterly asinine (not you maybe but governments have) and shows just how out of whack the popular climate religion is. Sure not based on science or reality.
Life flourished at 2000ppm, even 10,000. A modern tight home will often have 2000ppm inside. Commercial greenhouses are also typically kept at around 2000, you think they do that for entertainment?
Not like this planet was made for us but we are a part of nature as surely as plankton and whales. Be quite astounding if 280ppm, record lows, just happened to be ideal, hmmm?
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@ljprep6250 Wide range but diesel semis are in the ballpark of $200k new, not clear what Tesla will initially price theirs at but it seems they could be worth double or more to operators, subsidies aside. (thinking mainly of 500 mile rated Teslas that can do some 560, also cheaper 300 range available)
Bottle neck looks to be the high powered chargers most customers will need, permitting and power supply could take 3 yrs. Should be that trucks parked overnight will do fine w common car chargers, 250 or 350kw, easier quicker to install, instead of 1000 for fast charging that Pepsi needs running them multi shifts, they need to recharge while loading/unloading.
Naturally the ROI will be longer for those not running the, say 150k miles per yr, that the likes of Pepsi does.
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@Blasco_Snap Nothing new but i STILL can't see how most legacies survive, GM & F massive debt already plus more to transition, lax union culture, old obligations and inefficiencies, half the pay per employee as Tesla, lol (before stock options I believe)
We need a lot of EV co.s,, dozen or two minimum globally.
(currently 1000 auto mfgs just in China, most should wash out, once had 65 motorcycle co.s in US, dad's era there were dozen American brand auto mfgs)
I come from childhood to mid age on GM products, plus Toyotas and Hondas later naturally HA! Today love me old'e BMWs and still drive Chevy 1-ton for work. Not thrilled to see them all fail, merging and going thru bankruptcy reformations I expect, dramatically downsized or dead.
We relied on Sears in rural America in my youth, now we don't miss them at all, forgotten. Creative destruction not just healthy but necessary.
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@goon5544 To each his own. Should realize Tesla is redefining that industry similar to the way Apple did with the Iphone. (analogies always flawed but unavoidable, just as comparing GM, VW, Toy, etc., to Tesla is highly flawed)
In round numbers Apple has 20% market share and 60% of the entire market profits, Tesla has 20% market share with near 100% of profits, the 100% will eventually come down as Asian brands and others become profitable at some point. But that's for a rapidly growing overall pie. (BEVs only not auto's in general)
That TSLA has lower forward PE than Chipotle, similar to Walmart and other common slow growers, just one metric, but ludicrously undervalued by that comparison.
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@smoochie3331 But we have had a rapid slide into Authoritarianism, Banana Republic type corruption....DHS, FBI, etc., in collusion with corporate and social media, censoring, cancelling, controlling the One True Narrative and election manipulation.
Mandated injections, vaccine passports, unscientific insane shutdowns, hyping fear to confiscate basic human rights.
Don't ever think "It can't happen here." Tyranny typically finds a way and the very brief individual liberties we have enjoyed in the West for a couple centuries, are the exception.
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@flyerfocus6259 Same here. He's usually right about names he champions for yrs and knows well--AAPL, FANGs, AMD, ..... Off the cuff or less focused on names, not so much. No harm in hearing his opinion regardless, pulling the trigger on a name you don't know well is a casino, lazy and reckless.
After learning how to utilize Cramer, and better discipline myself, I never lose based on his opinion.
I'm interested in his views on names I own long term or consider owning, which is all I do anymore, trading is for kids and posers/losers. :D
(made about 4 buy/sells this yr.)
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@SmashKing17 Are you bran new to this? Anyway, glad you asked.
I'll try to keep it brief, bare with me here:
1)Markets are forward looking, if they priced to perfection and perfection happens what do you expect?....flat line or a dip typically, surprises move stocks, predicted "news" is baked in already! TSLA has a history of volatility this is nothing.
It had a blowout Q3 but it's the 5th time in a row that it has done so!! It was a good trade the 1st couple times but not anymore, understand how that works?
2) Did you not notice a 10X run up in 18 months? It's damn due for a pause, frankly hyperbolic moves are never sustainable, they are scary. If it stays around $420 for 6 months that's HEALTHY for a stock like this. There are catalysts, I expect it to move significantly higher by a yr. from now.
3) IF you are an investor as apposed to a gambler you don't give a damn about what the stock price does over any limited time frame, it DOESN'T MATTER. What counts is the fundamentals--is the bull case intact or not?
I backed up the truck starting at about $38 2019 and continued buying. I followed Elon and Tesla for over a decade before gaining confidence to go "all in", it took me that long but my foundation is solid as a result so I don't react emotionally to short term moves, even getting cut in half in 4 months, that's a discount to buy into damn sure not sell, but SELL is exactly what the weak hands will do every time in a big dip.
I rode TSLA about 60% DOWN earlier this yr. only to buy a little more around $100, you know why?...bc I can't predict short term, no on can, and I had CONVICITION in the thesis over yrs (at least a decade in this case) not days or months I have no idea nor concern what happens in a month.
If you are a gambler, aka., you don't know TSLA from NKLA, or NIO or even Bitcoin, GOOD LUCK you can expect casino slot machine results.
4) Weak hands will get washed out in times of 'consolidation' too, those are the gamblers who only chase momentum and don't know what they own, healthy long term for a stock. Fortunately Tesla has a big solid base invested for yrs to a decade and looking toward 2030 who don't tend to sell but only add.
5) Big funds like ARRK have self imposed mandates to adjust their position in TSLA, trimming some at peaks and rebalancing lower.
SORRY, no fast easy money available, I don't have time for childish fantasies.
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@hollyyork1164 If you are happy with your situation then it's ALL GOOD. But living hand to mouth is expensive, I've been there just like almost all of us at one time or another.
All you have to do is save a few bucks per day, 5 Starbux per week deferred say--that's a couple grand per yr. right there. Obviously I don't have "scorn" for the poor, but those perpetually sniveling about their circumstance without bothering to change them disgust me.
I worked my way thru college, took me longer than most would find acceptable but graduated with zero debt. NEVER had credit card debt, only 2 significant things I didn't pay cash for--a service truck essential for my biz and the home I live in, both I paid off well ahead of schedule. Only after that and stock investments, etc., did I have any more than an old econobox (one 'luxury' exception, a 'crotch-rocket' I had for 15 yr.s purchased used for half original price cash of course)
I've made my share of mistakes but I OWN them I don't scorn those who've done better than me, I learn from them instead.
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@niyazzmoithu20 It's a well served crowded space and not their area of expertise. What's the point in competing in a commodity if you can't revolutionize it? Starlink would do that, maybe in a decade but probably not, what else?
They need to produce the things already committed to, brains and other resources are never infinite....FSD, Semi, CT, 4680's, new factories, econobox, solar stuff and stationary storage, roadster, robotaxies, humaniod robot, insurance.....GOOD GRIEF, and you want to add a stupid phone?
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@phreshlivin1881 Legacy auto mfgs have massive headwinds including huge debt, pensions, unions and the inherent conflict between short term profits and long term investments required to have a chance of existing into next decade, many won't. Plus the dealership handicap and most of their profits coming from servicing which EVs do not require.
Only Tesla has a roadmap to produce the many multiples of batts over current production, required to make millions of cars per yr in a few yrs. "Dominate the market"--depends what you mean, 20 to 30% will likely continue for the next several yrs which is well beyond what they need to thrive by 2030.
Robotaxis are essentially a given be autonomous solved by the end of this yr or several yrs out. That alone should add trillions to the market cap mid decade and NO ONE else is close to solving it other than geofenced so they may pay Tesla for licenses to use it.
Tesla will be producing 20M cars per yr. well before end of decade most likely, that's VW plus Toyota production. Dominant? IDK, you tell me if that qualifies. Plenty of room for the other big players especially out of China, downsized VW, F, GM and other upstarts like Rivian.
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Trigger Troll Norway has some of the highest EV numbers on the Planet, the only penalty is reduced range in extreme cold, otherwise they function much better than traditional vehicles. Going from 350 to 280 miles range ain't a deal breaker for most especially as the charge rate goes to 100 miles in 5 minutes and most of the time folks just plug in at night or at work often for free. Even businesses are offering free charging to get you to stop at their place...get a coffee and snack while gaining another 100 or 200 miles for nothing.
You too will drive an EV because sooner or later you will get tired of all the ICE hassles, cold engine battles, ice in fuel lines, air filters, oil changes, injection and ignition problems, well I don't need to tell YOU, lol. Plus you'll get tired of driving the slowest car/truck on the road which ICE already are. I'm not an early adopter and you might be the last but the trend is clear. I still love my BMW S65 V8 but it will be my last ICE car if not truck, a fantastic way to end an era.
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75joev My principle point here is that it's unproductive to throw up our hands and say "we're screwed, there is nothing we can do about it" beyond reducing CO2 and such which we have to do regardless. There is plenty to be done from building fire resistance into structures to reducing the fuel load in the wild lands. Long before climate was even a mainstream concern "WE knew" (those of us in this area who are aware at least) that Paradise and the whole region was facing this major threat. It has been a topic of conversation for decades. We knew 50 yr.s ago what should have been done but wasn't, probably a lot longer than that for those old enough.
I have a friend who has over 100 acres in the hills not far from Paradise, he will probably be one of the very few who will be fine WHEN, not if, the fire crosses his area. He has the entire place free of heavy brush, ladder branches trimmed up high (branches that can carry fire from ground to canopy on large trees), half a century of pine needle deposits several ft. deep cleared and burned off, etc, there simply isn't much left to carry a fire through unless it 'crowns out' and even then it at least can't threaten his house as the large trees are nicely spaced out. And of course he has steel roofs and other common sense features. He didn't clear cut anything other than the immediate areas built on, it's beautiful with even some cleaned up manzanita bushes tastefully left. It's almost shocking the difference between his land and the surrounding area where the 10' tall DENSE flammable brush is impenetrable by man, machine or even light....when that goes during dry weather it takes everything with it. The unchecked neighboring acreage even looks ugly in comparison.
It's not likely feasible to invest that sort of effort into the entire landscape but it's a MODEL of what could and should be done all around populate areas and to a lesser extent everywhere in those foothills. NO WAY it needs to be as bad as the Paradise catastrophe. Many of the same principles apply to the South as well.
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@grannyannie2948 Great points well taken. Y'all got it a bit worse from the CCP than us, tho Bill Gates buying farmland in USA not much better. 😄
And CCP paying for our universities, etc. VERY insidious.
Got NO problems trading with Mexico, Canada, Brazil, Central America, Japan, Euro, Ausie, Vietnam, Taiwan, S. Korea and MOST of the rest. Crucial cross border collaboration and mutual interest.
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We can still be proud of private sector
Tech in general, converting Western world to new automotive motive standard, far more efficient machines, cut low Earth orbital access dramatically, allowing for new type satellite internet serving every place u go outside the poles, at affordable price...on and on. US still the best place to revolutionize significant bit of an industry and profit on it...AMZN, Apple, social media (OK toss that one), Tesla, Nvidia...
Be proud of our farmers, oil and gas producer/processors and all the supporting mfg, etc! "We" invented a way to do the impossible w shale oil extraction, a huge technical achievement.
(long was proud of Boeing but they literally drove that into the ground, national tragedy)
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@SMGJohn In the last 4 decades I've contracted for 'a thousand' industrial organizations and businesses of ALL sizes. Underground and surface mining, milling, chemical, logging, wood fiber, oil refinery, geo thermal, telecom, utilities, solar and wind power, railroad, pipelines, earthwork, NatGas, road construction, ski lifts, farms/ranches, construction, on and ON....and I can contrast that with government jobs--universities/schools, wildfire operations, an airport fuel system...
I live in the real world which could teach an emotionally controlled, mentally frail indoctrinated punk like you plenty. Start again by asking questions instead of broadcasting your ignorance via regurgitated teachings from those who've never been outside an air conditioned office.
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Enter The Hunter
OK. Those are valid points. No problem for you personally however, just own and operate older cars which are cheap to buy anyway. I don't buy new cars either, mainly because I like to let someone else suffer the steep first few yr.s depreciation which is by far the biggest expense of any new car, especially more expensive ones.
I share some of your grievances about losing individual control and responsibility for the car. My 2011 BMW M3 doesn't even have a dipstick, one of my biggest complaints about the entire car. I love the fact that it can measure the oil level and quality automatically and display it for me but I like to SEE and FEEL the oil between my fingers....at least they put the oil filter right up there next to things like the coolant, brake and steering reservoirs, couldn't be easier to service that part. I will simply change oil far more frequently than recommended in part because I can't see it as easy as I like.
The stability control is TOO intrusive also, still after all these yr.s, however I can turn it down or off and have all the fun I want, that fixes that issue. The M3 doesn't have all the other driver aids as it's a drivers car anyway, intended for engagement and fun including manual trans for me and frankly it seems bran new to me even 8 yr.s old, not missing much that I want.
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@user-ow1bn6qv8q Wish my 1-ton service truck was a Toy instead of Chevy, but they never offered that. Rather pay double than suffer problems I've had. But that's all rearview. I don't see Toy, VW, GM, BMW, any legacy auto in my future.
And when autonomous driving takes over? That's ONLY Tesla foreseeably, no one else is even making a completive effort. Folks will pay up for that big time. Eventually that too will be commoditized, some time next decade after Tesla makes trillions on it and the road carnage, the millions killed and maimed, goes toward zero.
A young child today won't even learn how to drive in general. Unfortunate in some respects, same as I regrettably don't know how to handle a team of horses to pull a wagon.
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@user-ow1bn6qv8q I make no predictions on who merges with who else, just that legacy auto is going down in general and mergers and dramatic downsizing will be required.
YES Toyota WAS the best, roughly parallel to VW in terms of volume, etc. Far better reliability but also much worse driving experience, front drive absolutely sucks for example, I'd never own a frond drive if can afford better. Not everyone cares about driving quality and reliability is crucial, boring is better than broken down or breaking the bank.
Times are a changing and Toy focused on obsolete ICE including hybrids won't cut it for much longer. Be very interesting to see how it plays out but massive changes are coming before end of decade and Toy can't compete with BYD (Vinfast and many other Asian brands) let alone Tesla. Not in the BEV space which is the only space later this decade.
Room for many players, Tesla likely to contribute 20M out of 100M by decade end, that's 80M up for grabs.
I'm a dino--still LOVE my 'old' 2011 BMW V8 M3, (still seems brand new to ME) but it's a luxury replacement for crotch rockets of my youth, not something I'd recommend to anyone anymore than I'd recommend a high performance motorcycle. Old BMW 330 still fun too, but they are my last ICE cars no doubt, I say with some regret.
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@MathLilly I've been "in it" for a decade if only invested less than 2 yrs and I'm looking forward 5 to 10. I appreciate your diversification mantra, but "know what you own" conflicts with that. Many of the wealthiest ppl on Earth were completely concentrated: Gates, Jobs, Bezos, Musk...zero diversification. (obviously not to compare us mortals to them but the principle is the same)
I think the DOW and S&P 500 are vastly more risky than TSLA from now to 2030, those indexes will be crushed by the disruptions coming...fossil fuels becoming obsolete, pipelines, oil production services, legacy auto, auto insurance, banking, even railroads and grid utilities upended. Yet we continue to advise folks to simply sit in Index Funds.
I maintain a massive TSLA long and still have about as much for other stocks as I had before. Make sense?
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@ANIL-oi5bn I'm talking about his entire history. He was right to warn early this yr. to take the pandemic seriously and that the markets were not, helped me get out early, I've done fantastic.
He's been right about ETSY, SHOP, plus a host of other names some that have 5 to 10X gained in recent months/yr.s.... AAPL forever, AMZN, NFLX, and the rest of the FANGs, his creation back in the day. He's been right about TSLA for almost a yr.
He can be very useful, usually insightful always intelligent if sometimes goofy. That doesn't mean you can afford to simply hear a ticker symbol and pull the trigger, it means there might be a good idea to be considered. Lazy folks get in trouble bc they don't do their own work. SURE he's wrong a lot, anyone who makes a dozen market prognostications every day will be. THINK for YOURSELF and good luck! :D
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@braceyourselvesfortruth2492 Has nothing to do with growth, it's about legal structure which is nonexistent. You don't really "own" anything with Chinese stocks, you have exactly zero rights to anything in China, you don't own real estate, just a long term lease that may be revoked, nor even your 'own' life.
Making things even worse is the structure of the market itself for us in the West, for China stocks, it's extremely sketchy. Look into it.
For ME owning TSLA is more than enough exposure to Chinese random insanity and injustice, in that instance the worst they can do is nationalize or shutdown Tesla locally, it won't destroy the company nor my stock, just a significant minority chunk of it. Beyond this decade Tesla will likely not be much involved in China anymore for a handful of reasons, they still get ROI after only a yr or so of new investment there.
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I'm not suffering but I'll be doing even better when fewer others are distressed. Poverty mentality: Us vs them, one man's gain is another's loss (exactly backwards), equality of results equals justice (utter nonsense), wealthy have no problems and money solves everything--laughably detached from reality, and of course disdain for those with more anything, wealth, health, self discipline, better women, happier, as tho relative quality of life mattered when it's absolute quality, not that some one else is doing better.
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Disregarding Martin Luther King's primary objective is progress?? Racial/sexual/political bigotry, censorship and exclusion is PROGRESS?
Please tell me what I'm missing. Seriously. Hard to find an attribute of Hitler's reign with significant positive results, beyond making sure it's never repeated. Not exactly comparing the two YET, point being many popular movements have evil results no matter "good intentions" or expectations. 1930s Germans weren't generally genocidal yet that was the result.
"We" had a saying late 1960's, '70's..."Question Authority", still true, think of it as a mandate (HA!) and it originated from Left, yet today be consistently censored, canceled, blocked, by the Left (inc most MNM, social media platforms, college campuses) for challenging the government/media propaganda flavor of the day, ironic? Can that allow for a sustainable democracy? I don't see how.
Only upside is the massive backlash I perceive (could be just my own bubble) lifelong 'Centrist' w Liberty/individual responsibility principles (aka. Libertarian leaning, never Dem nor Republican, but donkeys make better pets, lol)
NOW simply anti-Leftist after witnessing the authoritarian desires or acceptance by half my countrymen in last 2 yrs in addition to the rest I'm alarmed by.
Resist, noncompliance...more I always respected from the '60's.
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@shawn8847 You must have crossed threads, never said ANY GROUP was worthless. Get off your tiny horse.
SURE everyone can have their own little association, it's legal as it should be, that doesn't guarantee I want to be a part of it. C-suite, wt. collar or blue, I never saw those things as adding value to society, aka., the enterprise. They only attempted to fake it and coerce it, add another toxic layer of friction. NO VALUE ADDED.
I don't need your Daddy to take care of me, esp. at the price of my economic freedom. I rely on trading value for value, my customers and I. I'm compensated based on mutual agreement no damn "association" to hold my hand and pick my pocket. LOVE IT that way.
Meritocracy Dude. Get that or fail. :D
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@Claire H Hydrogen You should be celebrating where we are at now and where we are RAPIDLY going:
Solar power is NOW the cheapest source of electric power and wind a close 2nd. So we will power everything off of those along with storage. Storage can take any number of forms including, and most efficiently, Li batts.
You harbor a fantasy for HFC (Hydrogen fuel cell) car which is simply an inefficient version of the battery for that purpose. If we were to mistakenly force that rout it will dramatically delay the conversion away from fossil fuels as it will cost far more to drive where as a BEV, available, affordable and easy to charge RIGHT NOW--TODAY!
There is no performance trade off going to a good BEV today, they are the quickest vehicles on the road and about 1/4 or less to operate as gasoline which is about 1/2 as expensive as hydrogen.
Do yourself a favor: Go test drive any number of modern BEVs, Ford, Nissan, Tesla, VW...and be inspired to learn more about them. If you can't afford one today you will be able to in a few yrs if you can afford to drive anything.
It won't even matter if an individual likes BEVs or not, same with solar, the economics will simply be irresistible unless governments screw it up, all they need to do is stand aside at this point. The train has left the station.
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@williamsinisterra4189 Any such simplistic comparison is flawed but a few data points just for fun:
TSLA had market cap of $4B shortly after IPO in 2010, call it $8B w inflation, at that point they had delivered 100X more units than Lucid has to date and yet 10X higher value for LCID? And it's at an extreme late entry disadvantage.
9yrs after IPO Tesla had market cap of around $50B with 100's of thousands of highly popular high margin vehicles on the road, plus prospects for SAS (software as a service) solar, powerwalls, grid/utility scale batt systems, and the best software, batt tech and production efficiencies on Earth.
Lucid has a decent shot at surviving the decade or being acquired but I expect the stock to flat line, at best, for yrs at a far lower level. There is room for many in this space but most upstarts will fail, simple historic fact for new industries.
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@jochannan7379 I'm not the one to say "the science is settled". We haven't much needed to further investigate Newtonian Physics in over a century, that's settled
Climate IS NOT SETTLED. (note the If above) Climate simulations don't work, they can't predict 'The Little Ice Age' only half a millennia ago, nor even last century let alone the wild Younger Dryass swings just 14k Yrs ago, yesterday in geological time, climatology a derivative of geology.
Point: convince me it's settled and you've convinced me to stop paying for redundancy. Scientists might back away from that false claim, actually--"journalists" more than actual scientists.
No one seems confident that another glacial maximum is or isn't around the corner at any given CO2 level, models don't work yet and that's why we need the science but atmospheric CO2 would almost have to mitigate it to some significant degree, pun.
An absolute life necessity is labeled a pollutant? CO2 level is a existential problem but probably not on the high side at these NEAR all time lows. (studied this a fair amount the arguments from 'authorities', most of those reported at least, don't mesh with the actual science) The rate of change is concerning, not so much the magnitude. CO2 is an important component of climate but it's not THE driver Back that up relatively easily.
Panic won't help and pure economics have flipped the script--renewables are taking over as most cost effective option in a competitive market. Cars are going electric far faster naturally than government mandates require with or without subsidies.
Quite a coincidence that 280ppm is magically ideal for life and humanity, as tho Earth was made for us by a perfect god.
Reason to believe that 500ppm is better and safer. Not to suggest 1000 is OK but also not the arbitrary dangerously low 280ppm.
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@SVT40AK47 The "Good ol' Days" are when we were young and we remember fondly times that we were not always fond of back in the day.
Remember Love Canal? It wasn't a one off it was symbolic of general industrial toxicity across the land. Our rivers were so laden with waste they caught on fire. Every car emitted gaging fumes, city smog was thick and brown, it burned your eyes and throat and stunk the high hell outdoors and inside. You couldn't escape it.
Don't even think about being born gay, there would be no place for you in society and a woman must get married or be sad and poor. Blacks were still regarded as stray dogs. Don't openly question toxic Christianity or the existence of god or you'd be run out of town--career ruined, ostracized without a friend.
Cars were dangerous slow crude contraptions with wheels only aproximately associated with the frame, brakes that only sort of worked, don't try to turn hard bc they couldn't...as poor as they performed they also got 8/12 mpg. They were wore out by 100k miles, you could rebuild the crappy inefficient engine but the interior was a mess too, uncomfortable since new the seats would be nothing but springs with shreds of fabric by then, headliner hanging, nobs and controls broken and missing. The body would be rusted out and falling apart. You had to do few hrs maintenance every month, points, plugs, check oil at every fuel stop and add as necessary, that nasty black puddle on your driveway didn't come for free.
Bias tires were done for in 8 to 15k miles, they handled and rode like hell and would acquire flat spots after parking for a day. Radials didn't exist.
Don't dream of flying anywhere you wouldn't be able to afford the ticket and of course it was 1000X more dangerous.
Homes were small with thin uninsulated walls and only a few crude energy hungry appliances, a tiny TV that barely produced a visible picture, only if you were well off. And it would need frequent repairs as vacuum tubes often failed.
Violent crime was 2 to 3X what it's been in recent decades in part due to blood lead levels 10X higher from leaded gasoline.
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@AMAMBT As much as I appreciate cool vintage cars, modern performance, suspension, brakes, limited slip diff is non negotiable, tho one could add one on most any car, rear drive essential. Many good transmission options but I have hard time getting head around less than 3 pedals for a fun car sporty car. Not much of that applies to vintage tho.
For me, driving dynamics rules all, form follows function, I want one I can really USE, with some practicality, be it a road trip or grocery shopping.
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@DrumsMacabre Plagues are a recurring feature of life on Earth, not just for humanity. And human morality isn't unique to humans, it's a necessary evolutionary trait for social animals, we see at least most forms in many species, had to be in most dinosaurs, etc.
A lone wolf tends to be a dead wolf, so if it can't get along, follow some fundamental social norms, disciplines and rules, it get's kicked out of the pack (tribe or whatever) if not killed outright. A basic sense of justice is also innately hardwired in all but a tiny minority of infant humans.
To derive ethics from scriptures you have to cherry pick. The OT which Jesus reaffirmed every letter, is a horrific litany of barbaric commandments, even the ten commandments are not helpful, somewhat corrosive. Demanding blind obedience, worship, is obviously a human construct from those desiring to control us and tap our wallets, nothing good ever came from worship except by accident.
Golden rule is childishly obviously good and not original to the Bible. 2 month old infants know it.
What facility do we use to determine that stoning your daughter to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night is NOT good but treating others as you want to be treated IS good? It can't come from the Bible itself. So it's completely useless as a moral guide, worse than useless because the horrific aspects are used as justification for those with self centered or evil intent.
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@DrumsMacabre My point is that there is nothing remotely prophetic about any of that, regardless of typical awareness or ignorance. Anytime in history was worse for humanity than today in every measure, wars, famine, poverty, disease, deaths from extreme weather events, you name it.
Headlines, yellow media, if it bleeds it leads, fuel gross disconnect from perspective. "The 2nd coming" was far closer in the early 20th century than today, for example.
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@TheSuperappelflap Most often there is no husband immediately around, even if there is maybe HE could use some help. I see no problem with it either way. Other day at Costco a mid age lady, no idea or concern if she's married or not, was struggling and failing to load a large bag of potting soil or whatever -- I'd have felt low NOT to do it for her, it's just common decency.
Similar to pulling a vehicle out of a ditch off a remote rural road, I'd do that for anyone, kid, man or woman. Last time was few yrs ago and mid age woman was nervous in the dark, don't blame her, but had her out of the mud in 5 minutes saving her the time and price of tow truck, and even more exposure alone in the dark. She was thrilled for the result which is MY reward.
She really tried to give me $40 which I never accept, she didn't ask for my help initially after all and I've been saved in worse circumstance and THEY wouldn't accept my attempts to pay. Paying it back paying it forward, an easy way to help save someone a lot for little cost to me.
Rarely the receiving person is ungrateful but that's the a small price to promoting a positive universe in which we live.
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@rolandrauenhorst2002 LA today is pristine compared to my introduction from RURAL isolated USA in 1968. lol
"Do we want to run this experiment?" Anyone can understand that compelling case. However--we are running this experiment even if we managed to keep CO2 at 280ppm where industrialization started.
There is nothing magical about 280 vs, say 600 where I think we are heading. What IS the ideal CO2 level? I sure ain't zero as that's the end of literally everything that matters. 280 is LT historically very low and arbitrary unless you believe this planet was made for us, or even life in general. That's just mindless religion.
Deforestation is an argument for more atmospheric CO2 not less, plants thrive on far higher levels and recent glacial minimum CO2 levels have come dangerously close to mass plant extinction. We have greened the planet with more CO2.
High value agriculture greenhouses like to inject 2000ppm CO2 often, they'd use 4000 if not for diminishing returns, plants love it, ppl, pollinators, etc., don't notice it. Have a tight energy efficient home?...it's probably 2000 plus and doesn't matter.
Last 2.5M yrs climate has been horrible with repeated bulldozing of entire 3rd of N. Hemisphere over and over, highly unstable. A geologic blink of eye ago, 12.5kya, Younger Dryass saw 12 deg C swings in a matter of decades, bad shit.
Talk about deforestation, try glaciation. Human caused habitat loss is a separate issue and a big one, nothing means much more than Madagascar lemures, whales...pick your fave.
Not to suggest 600ppm will prevent the pending glacial max, no one knows bc climate models simply don't work. Probably NOT prevent. But it will marginally reduce the risk and intensity and certainly benefiting crop yields TODAY, reducing water requirements and fertilizing plant life globally.
(Jeeeze--get me started, HA!)
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@newagetemplar6100 Don't normally mention but wouldn't own such a car if home not paid off and significant investments. Slowed down my work by choice but make plenty as I please w tiny contracting biz.
(((Have a modest fortune in TSLA since mid 2019, backed up the truck starting at $38/share, scared myself and then quadrupled down up to around $60. HA!
Shorts had gone stupid so I bet the ranch against them and 8 months later they transferred some $45 BILLION to us retail dummy's. (never learn, transferred couple more $B just last week, SUCKERS!))))
I fear a $20k plus tossed con rod grenaded engine, but we all have bigger worries. Still safer than a murdercycle. :D Gotta live for the moment some too, I get way sideways half a dozen X per day when I take her out. Never get tired of that.
Odds are S65 will stay together in my humble estimation. Always eager for better knowledge like yours however
Throttle response is key, plus high revving similar to me old Japanese motors, visceral, mechanical, analog... naturally I had to have that 3rd pedal, never owned anything but rear drive manuals, got all of them sideways including business 1-ton service trucks to Yamaha bike. It's about competency currency. (my excuse to cops)
Never think about a catastrophic failure when driving, no bandwidth left for that. Just take best care I know how, DIY all fluids and such, partially just to get/stay intimate with the machine.
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@andrewmeehan6151 You are looking backwards, things are changing fast. Norway has about the highest adoption level on Earth and it's not warm there half the yr, yes they pay a 30% winter range penalty vs say a 10% for an ICE? Seems OK with them. How often do they go over 250 miles at a stretch anyway? Stop to pee and get a coffee or snack and you'll have another 200 miles in the 'tank'.
Very soon a 25 to $30k Tesla will be available and it will be a far better drive than anything in that price range and instead of paying $30 or $40 to fill it up it will be 8 or $12. Combine that with no oil changes, no transmission, minimal servicing of any kind and it will absolutely be the poor man's choice once those hit the used market at half the purchase price.
Charge time for better brands is roughly 30/40 min for another 300 miles at a Supercharger, going to 15 minutes a few yrs out.
Right now charging at home is a problem for most apartment dwellers but that's an easy fix, just some slow chargers in the parking areas, it will become very standard bc it's cheap small footprint way to expand the potential customer base and much more useful than the swimming pool or gym they probably offer already. Many businesses already offer free charging, chargers will be along curbs, workplace parking, etc.
Toyota is dragging it's feet and going to be in a bad place by the time they accept the inevitable, they'll have no competitive software capability nor battery capacity and Chinese, Euro and American brands will be eating their lunch. Toy. has done well with the vastly more complex hybrids but they are horrible to drive if you've experienced a fun car and they will soon be more expensive in everyway. DOOMED.
BIG respect for frugality and utilitarian, but I'll be damned if I'd ever own a Prius and suffer it daily...if I can afford a choice.
Often overlooked that Teslas are the safest cars ever made which is a priority for many and at least a consideration for any sane person....I expect other OEMs will close the safety gap fairly fast, not so much for electronics, software, motor, battery, overall design efficiency and performance, even mfg efficiency. We take for granted over the air updates for Tesla but who else can even do THAT well by now?
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@andrewmeehan6151 They won't need much fixing other than crashes which will trend toward zero with autonomous. That's one of the big advantages over ICE but also why legacy MFGs and the archaic dealership biz models will struggle.
I don't need to look up anything, they sell everything they can build. The "Busted growth story." and "The competition is coming." are half decade old standing jokes.
Not a bubble for TSLA tho it is for others in the space who haven't even delivered a solitary vehicle. I understand well why you and others think that, just like 60 Minutes back in 2002 speaking with a confident Amazon executive: "Amazon is worth 20% more than Sears !??!" (stated with all due incredulity)
It took me near a decade to get my head around Tesla, it's one of the hardest to grasp and that's why it's such a massive opportunity, you might see it by say 2025 and that's fine, it will STILL BE A BUY by then. I'd bet you a friendly $100 that TSLA is double by Aug 2022, no telling on such short time frames naturally, but a 10X in 5 to 10yrs all but in the bag.
The CCP is a big risk for the China market but that will be diluted with more and more factories everywhere else. (assuming they don't build several new factories in China, which if not punished by the evil regeme, would make sense)
Don't forget the forces against them from fossil fuels to the entire establishment of services, dealers, OEMs, plus most media as Tesla is the only one who doesn't pay the bribe, they don't advertise whereas GM, F and the rest squander some $2B annually to pay off corporate media and convince silly customers to buy their products.
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@TimBitts649 I don't have limited experience, know MANY who have dispersed all over the planet. My question/challenge: can we incentivize via government for even more ppl to move, the wisdom of doing so, plus the cost.
WHY do you seem fixated on getting Americans to leave? Is YOUR TRIBE try'n to take over??
My family has been almost 'everywhere' (continent or major country) other than Antarctica, but a close friend went there 32X....China, USSR (right during the revolution by chance), Japan, W. Euro, N. Africa, Mex, Belize, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Brazil many times, India, Nepal, Australia, Turkey....off the top of my head.
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@mattsparks5957 Totally with you, including most of my $ worth, but 3 to 10 yrs, still a great investment, just not a STELAR INVESTMENT w worst case--Elon resigns as CEO of Tesla.
Don't think that's likely, read few books on him, 25 yrs of video interviews, lol...on and on.
He won't abandon Tesla easily but if shareholders don't solidly reaffirm?...gut punch to Elon and could be taken as vote of no confidence.
He was ousted as CEO of (Zipp2?) while on his 1st honeymoon, he didn't burn it down he accepted, worked with the team and retained value. NOT stupidly vindictive. He still owned a chunk of his 1st big venture.
Smart investors are invested in Elon 1st, Tesla 2nd.
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First 90 seconds enough for me, more nonsense than I can stomach.
I get the backlash against retarded virtue signaling mandates and such, that does not make an economic case against BEVs.
I still love my old BMWs, particularly E92-M3 which I hope to run for many more yrs, it's essentially a replacement for 'crotch rockets' of my youth, it is NOT economical, I wouldn't recommend it anymore that a motorcycle. But I do recommend a T. Model 3 or Y to just about anyone. You really can't compete with 125MPGe with an ICE, I will never buy a new ICE again, just don't make sense anymore. Get a Model 3 for some $35k USD without government incentives in the USA, vastly superior in everyway to a Corolla, RAV4 or anything else in category.
All the raw material costs are included in that price, that's 1st reality check on the assertion that "we don't have enough resources" for BEVs, all the metals will be endlessly recycled, Li, Ni, Cobalt, etc. No shortage what so ever for Li or Iron which are the primary elements of best, cheapest currently available batt cells.
So if you are emotional about car drivetrain types and just want to feed your confirmation biases, channels lk this are for you. If you care about reality--go elsewhere.
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Rational Thinker
Cramer has consistently praised the product, the CARS, he has both praised and made fun of Elon as he does here, EM is both worthy and deserving of it. I bet Musk would greet Jim with a smile, high achievers like Elon Musk are not normally petty simpletons. Jim has been consistent in advice to "Buy the car if you like the car, don't buy the stock. But don't short it either." GOOD ADVICE because unless you are a pro trader/investor, it's just too hard to figure out and too risky to recommend. Cramer has also driven the Model S of course, and had nothing but good to say about it.
A yr. later--I am again considering a small long position in TSLA, could be a wipe out or a home run. If YOU have a strong opinion then put your money on it, talk is cheap, go long or short TSLA. I would tell a friend to buy GOOG, AMZN, CRM, ADBE, FB, MSFT, NVDA, or others instead of TSLA. One of my nephews is a Elon fanboy (I am too!) so I may buy him a tiny bit of TSLA. :D Loving the product, the car, and/or the CEO, does NOT mean you love the stock
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@erikeggenbakstad Our health care system is a sad joke, not all of it but results/$ overall. It's broken. We had more socialistic medical system before the 1960's or '70's ish. (pardon my lack detailed understanding) but it seemed to work well.
Always a doctor would treat a patient without regard for ability to pay going back to the 1st legit docs in the 19th century. It's human nature.
I'm a hard core free enterprise, individual freedom, as far as is practicle, proponent (I don't want the right to a granade launcher or to dump nuclear waste on "MY" land), it's always a matter of degree.
Free markets are absolutely indispensable, NO Tesla spear heading low carbon transportation without it.
Obviously... private police, military, courts, etc., don't work, toss in prisons and maybe healthcare. As clumsy and inefficient as government appendages automatically are--we can't live without them.
USA like all nations has a lot of work to do. Still a ton going for it, just ask Elon. :D
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@caseydorn3309 Dude! Quit projecting on me. I'm one of the happiest folks you'd ever meet. I will do most anything to assist an individual struggling to succeed, to prosper and achieve any worthy goal, nothing unique it's human nature to help. If there is a selfish side to it, it's that I gain a little when others gain a lot. I love to see success around me and I DO!
But when I'm told "equality = justice" in the context of wealth, I'm going to push back. Equality under the LAW absolutely. Income tax within limits, fine. Yes we all rely on public infrastructure, justice system, etc.
But when I'm hearing "you have too much we will confiscate most of it", something to that effect--damn right I'm going to react harshly. Wealth is created by people before it can be extracted from them and we better not forget it or there won't be much for anyone or anything. Forced economic equality = poverty for all, you can't force someone to create a Tesla company, you can't even force them to do a good job tending a farm field without terrorizing and beating them constantly.
Some degree of 'socialism' is necessary but when it becomes: "From each his ability TO each his need."....the definition of Communism, forced "equality", you have created hell on Earth. It may sound good on the surface to those who haven't thought it through but humanity is far too good for it. The best and brightest will become examples of mediocrity, you won't even know they are out there.
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@shrenp.1313 What IS the root of money? It's providing goods and services to humanity, generally essential to existence, otherwise enhancing health and happiness. Profit means producing more value than the required inputs to those ends, not only GOOD but essential.
Externalities, the environment in particular, are not well considered by the market place alone unless the consumers demand it as they sometimes but not always do. That's why the necessary evil of government, as lousy as they inherently are, the ultimate monopolies, must play a crucial roll.
It's YOUR direct decision in a relatively free market, to decide the trade offs, to be responsible for the broader consequences of your choices and consumption.
Would you go to work for no profit? Would you consider it "good" to spend as much to do your job as the job paid you? Get over your indoctrination and think for yourself as hard as it is.
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@MH-gy6qv A geologist might solve it quickly, IDK, but if it's granite dike of some sort it probably has other remnants in the area. Also the few nubs I've seen do not look like megalithic nubs, they are clearly lumps of harder rock eroded around.
The weathering should also be key, I'd guess it's been exposed for 10's if not 100's of thousands of yrs, not likely coinciding with all the other megalith structures which were presumably (tho debatable as far as I know, not accurately dated) post last glacial max around 13k YA.
I've seen many big slabs of granite in the high Sierras where the glacial polish is still very well preserved, apparently not weathered at all in 12k yrs. Tho possibly the polish itself retards weathering some, granite is tough stuff, other than tumbling in a river, dragged in deep ice or spalled from intense repeated fire, nothing seems to change it quickly if it's free of cracks.
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@markdoan1472 --a few fun facts: I used to be concerned about Tesla long range semi being compromised on payload due to batt mass, a few % loss of load cap is a big deal there, that looks to be solved now and they will be able to get an extra 400 miles (out of total 500 range) in about 30 minutes charge time. Not an issue when a driver is mandated breaks anyway and unlike diesel the driver need not be there, just plug in and walk away. Even if that were not the case a big market exists for shorter range. The economics should drive huge demand but obviously it will take yrs to ramp production, charging infrastructure, etc....but it's happening.
BMW announced a reasonably compelling car also with cobalt free batts but as with all competitors it won't be of comparable VALUE to Tesla's cheaper options. Competition is good tho and there will be plenty particularly from China. Not everyone will like Tesla tech over say a Polstar 2 which is very good and comparably priced tho with range and charging limitations.
Sweden and Norway have the highest EV adoption rates on Earth despite some 30% range/efficiency penalty in winter months, that's going from say 120 mpg equivalent to 80 or 90 mpgE, quite compelling still. Naturally there will be fringe cases where petrol will continue to dominate anyway but it's not stopping Canadian's much so far. For many going from a 400 or 500 range to 300 or 400 is not a big deal. (those ranges are near future mostly, not common today but soon enough)
In a few yrs there will be a good $25k Tesla option which will be the kiss of death to economy ICE cars. Meanwhile Porsche's best seller, by far, is it's only EV model, a pricey toy no doubt but a hint of the future.
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@toddabowden Much appreciate the sentiments and your personal calling. I find some of the most compelling individuals, not just courageous but smart, interesting and disciplined, are found in heavy industry.
Too bad it's been dismissed as inferior and disrespected in recent decades, although for SOME good reasons--not good to be selling one's health which is sometimes the case, tho not as much anymore. (won't be long before humanoid bots take over those jobs, while mostly good, IDK where men will be created after that, maybe rock climbing. martial arts....being a cop or soldier....)
Those working conditions are character building, wish all young men could experience a couple yrs of some sort of difficult, potentially unforgiving hard work.
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@JohnMichaelGodier Fusion seems like a long way off if it can ever be economically competitive on Earth. I welcome the efforts anyway. Yeah I remember some of the anti-nuke hysteria from decades ago.
Highly biased in favor of Tesla, but unless you live in a very remote area, the infrastructure is plenty good enough by most accounts. Naturally many owners haven't needed a public charger in yrs and really enjoy not ever going to a gas station, just plug in at home a few X per week or daily.
If you road trip much then it becomes important and there's a small learning curve to use it effectively, but very rare one must wait for a stall. Charging speed is a bit of an issue but rapidly improving. A top up every 200 plus miles is a welcome break for many, 15 to 30 minutes and, variable but say $8, and on the road again after snack and pee. But if you like to drive nearly nonstop for 10 hrs--ICE will still save you an hr.
The fuel savings makes T. Model 3 the cheapest late model car you can operate in USA today. (probably also true in Europe, much of the world, but not China) Teslas are also the safest cars ever made by a wide margin, both in a crash and, increasingly, by avoiding crashes. Purchase prices are very compelling now and will continue to get better and cheaper.
All the noise about battery elements environmental issues are way overblown, and they will be endlessly recycled like ultra high grade ore.
Tesla has also essentially won the autonomous race with no contenders in sight. They'll license the tech to other OEMs, but for now and several yrs forward--that's a big factor, many folks don't want to live without FSD anymore now that it's suddenly become so good, major de-stressor even supervised. (there can be exceptions and older versions could be extra stressful, but the path is clear now)
Know a guy who, ironically owns several gas stations, NOT a Tesla fan but has money and a Model X. He says he can't manually keep a car between the lines well anymore and likes to do anything but drive while "driving".
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@JohnMichaelGodier Maybe I'm missing something but the Fukashima disaster was entirely avoidable immediately after the flooding, to my eye. Ignoring the design failures like backup generators in the basement. Megawatt backup gensets are ubiquitous for many industries, hospitals, etc. Rental yards have them.
Heavy lift helicopters should have been able to fly in diesel generators, crews and supplies to wire them up in a matter of hours, or a day. Yet none of that was even attempted?? They had a couple days battery power if I recall correctly.
That disaster and Chernobyl, another unforced series of errors, largely responsible for anti-nuke sentiment in recent decades, in my view.
Maybe you've already done your thing on nukes, that's a worthy topic for near future. Including thorium if that's viable.
I'll have to delve into your glacier catastrophe ascertions at some point, simply don't have the background to have an intelligent opinion on it one way or the other rt now.
Looks like we will need some 3X more electric gen in next decade or two, and the grid upgrades. I expect to be personally (neglecting my share of 'unavoidable' outsourced consumption perhaps) self sufficient with roof solar, batteries and EV car(s), in a few yrs.
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@JohnMichaelGodier Much appreciate your time and effort. Had misgivings about mentioning any particular character like Gore. I'm non tribal by nature, was 'on his side' back in the day, but all that is, as you suggest, irrelevant to the reality we are attempting to determine here.
My understanding is current sea level rise is only some, say 30% higher rate than it was 150 yrs ago. (without exact numbers at my finger tips) Hardly overwhelming to civilization for next 150 yrs. Will it increase or decrease over that time frame, I don't think anyone knows.
My mention of YD catastrophe was 2 fold--one which you addressed and the other about all the supposed tipping points. Be it seafloor methane hydrates or whatever, surely proposed tipping points would all have been triggered if they were real. Perhaps some were?
I'm not sure we could have terminated fossil fuels any faster than we have been without causing mass poverty, and poor ppl can't afford to think about next week let alone decades forward.
Fossils have saved what's left of our forests and the whales, at least sperm whales. We'd have consumed wood for fuel like poor regions of Earth today burn any tree limb they can find.
The good news is that fossils days are numbered, free enterprise and tech is showing us the way to abundance without additional carbon emissions. Yes it will take decades, but EV autos, for example, will dominate new purchases in a few yrs. ICE cars will be obsolete before worn out.
I celebrate energy source transformation even tho I still suspect more CO2 is better than less. Going renewable (or at least nuclear) is obvious necessity and cleaner air is already happening. USA is long past peak coal and now at peak oil consumption.
Evidence that atmospheric CO2 is more a consequence of climate change than a driver of it: many examples--when CO2 is minimal at same time ice is maximum, albedo is max, should result in permanent glacial max or "tipping" into snowball Earth. But that's not what happens.
If climate models were worth a damn they'd predict all the changes back in time, they do NOT. I don't think we can know, at this point, what the next 50 yrs looks lk. Or even to what extent carbon is a factor.
I share your concern about Antarctica but not your alarm--conceding your far superior specific knowledge on the particulars you presented. Naturally much more to it including increased precipitation in many regions.
I champion MORE skepticism toward authorities in general. Recent pandemic didn't need to be devastating as it was, for example, had the skeptics not been canceled and censored and authorities allowed to trample our basic human rights. Similar goings on with climate science, playing out over decades instead of months.
Youth of today really believe, 'half' of them, that the world will end for them in 5 or 10 yrs, due to climate apocalypse. Very unhealthy unnecessary religion with only one upside--they'll be very cynical 20 yrs from now. lol. But they'll regret not having a family or career, or just not taking better care of themselves, due to hyperbolic headlines and prognostications.
(((pardon caring on way to long!...loath long posts)))
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@JohnMichaelGodier The IPCC agrees with none of that. Not that consensus is science, it is not, but that's an organization without a purpose if not for CO2 effects and they put some work into it. They predict trivial economic impact this century.
If anthropogenic CO2 was the driver of climate (it's a bit player) how do we explain the Younger Dryass, or the repeated glaciation of the North? On and on. Will it prevent the pending glacial max? That's a hell of a lot scarier even than sea-level rise. (my assumption is NO)
Recent glacial maximums have dropped atmospheric CO2 near mass plant extinction levels, extremely dangerous, flirting with the end of everything good that matters.
Al Gore won a prize for predicting the end of Artic sea ice by 10 yrs ago, we hit a 20 yr max just recently. (nothing to do with sea level, just a reason for cynicism in the *one true narrative*)
So far CO2 increase has been a massive benefit to Earth and humanity, greening the planet, rendering plants more drought tolerant and significantly increasing crop yields.
At what point has CO2 done about all the thermal insulating that it can do? Painting a window twice doesn't necessarily block twice as much light. We started taking temp measurements at the coldest point in the last 10k yrs, 1880's.
Remember the "coming ice age" fear in 1960's and '70's? There was a reason for it, slight cooling trend from 1940ish to '80's. CO2 fails to predict climate history, it correlates to medium time frame trends (100's of thousands of yrs) but apparently follows temp changes as much as leads them.
40X more CO2 in the oceans than atmosphere, colder oceans holds, removes more from air achieving treacherous low levels in recent glaciations, 180ppm.
Fear the next glacial max more than melting.
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@garrettmillard525 Climate is not driven by CO2, false narrative not backed by evidence, it's not exactly trivial in general but often is. We are still in the Ice Ages which have been horrific for last 2.5M yrs, a brief warm period for us to thrive in subject to switch back, without notice, to growing ice sheets devastating half the N. hemisphere which is the dominant condition.
Methane is a silly concern, it only last about 15 yrs in the atmosphere, unless there is somehow a 100X increase which would be a short term problem, forget about it.
Weather and climate have always been terrifying having nothing to do with humanity. The rhetoric that severe events are increasing IS NOT BACKED by actual science. It's hype media fabrication.
Have you bothered to delve into the actual science and data? I have, most have not, they think hyperbolic headlines are reality, they are clickbait, nothing more.
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@andrasbiro3007 First off Elon is over influenced by climate dogma...at least in his words.
Have you actually studied climate data and science? I have and the notion that CO2, an essential gas for life on Earth, controls climate, is absurd. It's a bit player, not remotely the driver of climate.
It's not trivial but it sure doesn't explain the Little Ice Age, Medieval Warm Period, Roman Warm Period, both peaked higher temps than today, all very recent history,. Let alone the radical temp swings of Younger Dryas, 12C in a matter of a century and only yesterday in geologic terms, 12.5k yrs ago. (geology the origin of climate science)
The climate has been horrific for last 2.5 million yrs with more time half the N. Hemisphere devastated by ice sheets than not, next glacial max pending at any time. No one knows bc climate models don't work.
Apparently you are controlled by popular propaganda, an NPC.
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@Madronaxyz Yes it's multi-faceted, complicated. And perspective matters, 5 or 10X more acreage burned a century ago in the USA than in recent decades. There's a reason hype media (only sort many ever experience) starts the clock around 1984, that was the coolest time of last 100 yrs and the lowest burn acreage.
The highest temps ever recorded were in the 1930's, the Dust Bowl wasn't just bad policy and farming practices. Coincidentally the coldest time in the last 10k yrs was the 1880's when record keeping began.
Warmer climate means more water vapor, more precipitation and of course water vapor dwarfs all other greenhouse gasses combined. CO2 is a bit player in climate, not trivial but not remotely THE driver, naturally it greatly enhances greening of Earth, crop yields and so on.
It also adds a little security from the ultimate catastrophe--too low CO2 to support plant life which has nearly happened a number of times in last few million yrs.
CO2 is correlated to climate very closely but it often lags temperature which makes sense when realizing 40X more of it dissolved in the oceans than in the atmosphere, warmer water holds less.
Climate models don't work, you can't run them backwards to predict, say the Medieval Warm Period, which was 1.5C warmer than today, nor the "Little Ice Age" we are arguably still recovering from. Both of those episodes must be dodged or data modified to fabricate the infamous "hockey stick" farce.
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@neisanland2503 HOW is a hyperproductive person's well earned wealth at the cost of the poor?!? It doesn't work like that, exactly the contrary. And Bezos will pay more taxes than the bottom 100 million Americans, simple FACT. I never made a dime off the poor nor did anyone else including the government, they are already living on MY WORK.
Again--ANYONE can become wealthy in America. Wanna know how? Let me tell you how I did it because it's the common way it's done : I worked my face off straight out of high school at an under ground mine (OK, that mine detail is not common, but you get the idea) in the High Sierras, week on end of double shifts, 16 hrs a day became the norm. Saved every penny I could during the summers to attend subsidized Junior College the rest of yr. (yes I'm fine with my taxes going back to that)
I drove a Ford Pinto, worthless econobox, didn't own a TV, nor stereo nor toy for yrs, rode my bicycle exclusively before my 2nd yr at JC. Struggled to get certified in welding as a back up to my eventual engineering goals and a way to create more money for my purpose. Yes I created that wealth , it was money that would not exist if I didn't sweat and swear to MAKE IT.
I invested every saved penny in starting my own welding contracting biz and after yrs of struggle to get established and profitable went back for my engineering degree. ALWAYS living well below my immediate needs, always treating my customers with highest integrity and standards even if it meant I lost my ass on a particular project. Invested in myself and later in outside enterprises that I spent a decade studying to get my head around. (think Tesla)
My money created more wealth for many others and myself, I still live in a shameful shack but it's all MINE and I can now look forward to building a modest, high quality house on my 'dream yard' now that I'm modestly wealthy.
Anyone else can do similar in America. Tradesmen are in incredible demand, have been for decades. I can earn well over $100/hr just by myself and I EARN every penny of it. My customers gain as do their employees, they only want more of me than I have time and energy. (they joke they want to clone me, lol)
Society as a whole gains from MY GAINS both with TSLA and my own tiny biz.
I don't OWE anyone except to repay my subsidized education, infrastructure, courts, law, libraries and so on. Punish me TOO MUCH for being productive and I'll simply stop. Meritocracy is NOT OPTIONAL, I will not bust my ass to be in the same state as a druggy under the bridge tho I may well join them there. Hahaha
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@A E I don't know about criminal, but yeah maybe that's not enough, you are talking some 250 hr.s in this particular model I believe, not total experience. However--by some accounts, the Lion pilots were either severely drunk or may as well have been: 1st the particular plane had problems with the AOA that should have been taken care of but hadn't been, 2nd they took off without tower clearance, then they fumbled in the cockpit, misunderstanding the situation, failing to switch off MCAS and apparently not even scanning their instruments as they didn't know the attitude of the aircraft and when the "bank angle" warning came on they turned INTO it instead of out of it causing the fatal near vertical dive. (time will tell how much of this is on Boeing and how much on maintenance, operation standards and pilots, account above could be partially incorrect too)
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@jacobnunya808 Difficult when they are bulling every nation in the S. China Sea area, decimating ocean fish stocks, stealing industrial/military secrets wholesale, genociding the Wiegers (sp?), infiltrating Western universities, social media, etc., etc.
Causing a global pandemic, covering up it's origins (they created it in a lab with USA help) and deliberately exporting the virus all over the world and still no real consequences for that?!
Worst actors on the global stage, the CCP cares about one thing, staying in power.
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@GoCoyote Increased CO2 reduces water requirements for plants and has visibly greened the Earth. NASA recorded such from space. Plants can only become more drought tolerant as stomata need not be open as much to acquire the CO2 required.
CO2 is a bit player in climate, not remotely THE driver. Water vapor makes up 70% of the greenhouse effect with many other gasses participating. And increasing CO2 has decreasing effect as levels increase, the effect of next doubling does less than double the effect.
The primary connection between climate and CO2 is that when Earth cools more CO2 is stored in water, 40X more CO2 in oceans than atmosphere. Not always but often it's clear that CO2 lags temperature change for this reason.
It's been said that "we shouldn't be conducting this experiment." Anyone can understand that, makes sense, but we are doing this experiment even if we somehow managed to keep or return to pre-industrial 280ppm.
What IS the ideal CO2 level? 280 is long term historically on the extreme low end and the climate over the last 3M yrs has been erratic and devastating to much of N. hemisphere with more time under couple km ice than not.
Mass plant extinction is expected around 150 to 100ppm, that would be the end of everything that matters and recent glacial maximums have seen as low as 180, extremely dangerously low. Would say 600ppm be safer going into the next glacial max? Probably a little bit, can't hurt.
Or will 600 prevent next glacial max? No one can say because our climate models are a farce, they do not work, but I suspect NO.
We only have sketchy hypothesis for how 12 deg C temp swings happened in a matter of decades in the YD (Younger Dryass) for example, until models can predict YD, Medieval warm period, Little Ice
Age, etc., they may be dismissed.
Think about 12C! We fret over 1.5C this century tho there's no reason to expect we can predict such. YD was yesterday in geologic time, geology being the origin of climate science.
I suspect 600 (about where we will likely plateau as fossil fuels are becoming obsolete) is significantly healthier and safer than 280.
To think 280 is magically better just because it was more "natural" is as mindless as any religion ever was. Do we think this planet was made for us or life in general?? SURE God dunit and it was perfect before we came along.
Unfortunately...natural climate is catastrophic without us and probably with us until we can actually control it.
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@waynefergusson9987 It's OK if you can't defend your beliefs in this instance, we all need to strive to be less wrong. I was only asking u to justify for yourself why u cling to this notion. No need to prove to or persuade you...but just for the thought exercise and fun. :D
Bike ain't good proxy for an automobile, host of reasons hub motors can be good for a bicycle, "2 dimensional", you can't go far out off center plane and motor is relatively miniscule.
We'll see about a, say 500 hp battery street bike, I say NO hub motor there either, but a light pedal bike--hub motors make ton of sense.
Rode high performance street bikes hard daily for many yrs, excellent suspension is NOT OPTIONAL when you are dancing around on bad asphalt with 'unlimited' performance, braking to the point of transient lockups, leaning hard while torqueing wheels...etc.
Tires must follow the surface and adjust nearly instantaneously, mass resists that. Same for a car at the limits or emergency situation.
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@sabymondal Been great so far, still up 4 or 5X, this disconnect from reality is hilarious, won't last indefinitely. That the Establishment is tripping on themselves to fabricate nonsense created this once in a lifetime opportunity for the 2nd time since May 2019--thinking of a mortgage on my home or selling one of my fave BMWs just to buy more. EASILY 10X from here over next 4 or 5 yrs.
Twit files have shown a light on the incredible corruption, election manipulation, etc., etc., of Establishment social and propaganda media in collusion with FBI, DHS and the rest. And Tesla doesn't pay the media mafia protection racket, aka., advertising.
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@lengould9262 The Right has also been moving Left for many yrs but patheticly weak in upholding or countering anything. The Left creates entire fantasies and runs wild with them for yrs without consequence: Russian collusion farce, Jan 6 fabrication while laughing when the Left attacks the WH in an insurrection, President forced to retreat to bunker (funny stuff!), burning up the guard house, knocking over a long fence injuring many cops, on and on. ZERO conseqences.
Just last week a front running REPUBLICAN governor was SWATTED (really after 1.5yrs) his residence raided by the FBI which is in collusion and the DOJ...his crimes? Misdemeanors like trespassing. Left is creating civil war.
What were a few yrs ago Alex Jones nutjob conspiracies are today's reality--forced injections, vaccine passports, complete loss of all civil rights, Right protestors getting solitary confinement without charges. The Ministry of Truth attempt, it's frankly terrifying.
Not confident we will have a USA in any meaningful sense, what part of The Constitution is left? (Right was most to blame for Patriot act which was one big step in wrong direction 20 yrs ago)
We need a radical shift toward Libertarianism or dissolution of this disunited states if the authoritarian Left doesn't grow up and get real.
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@Markcain268 IDK if you are trolling here but the first thing is to open an online broker account, don't fret too much on which one, just get started, you can change brokers later if you want.
Yes you can buy and sell anytime the market is open, but DO NOT trade, invest for the long term. Retail (aka., amateur traders lose), over time you must gain a solid base of conviction in whatever COMPANIES you own so that you don't sell at the worst possible time, when the company is doing great but the stock, or market as a whole is falling.
Don't confuse price action with company prospects, ultimately the two will align but not in the short term.
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@rogerstarkey5390 Another angle:
We've seen FAR more stressful times in Tesla, 2018 the worst in recent memory, Elon was sleeping on the factory floor for many months, for all to see that HE was getting it worse than anyone else and there to be woken at any moment to solve problems on the assembly line as they struggled with the ultimate test of 1st mass production. Wasn't clear they would survive but Elon never quits.
Today Elon is confident, relaxed and enjoying himself. Not complacent but able to laugh easy. Possible he's kidding himself but probably not to THAT degree.
I have reason to expect they will solve crucial problems and continue to perform like no one else even attempts to. If the 4680 continues to lag, as it has so far (no big surprise to me), it won't be pain free but they'll find a way as they always have.
Such confidence doesn't come quick and easy, I as millions of others, stressed with them. Over the yrs you begin to understand, they don't DO EASY but they find a way.
Probably Elon's greatest strength is building spectacular teams and motivating them to do the barely possible.
You may not have that confidence, most understandably don't, but you may not have "seen" what I and others lived thru. As an investment--I can only suggest you take the time to gain SOME of that same sentiment or simply stay clear. There are no shortcuts.
Without REAL CONVICTION you'll bail at the worst possible time. Many claim conviction but betray the opposite by fretting over meaningless stock price action. They don't want to admit it but they are not invested they are gambling, a losers game.
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What if used as NatGas is today, for heating and cooking, peaker plants, don't remove the methane just burn both together. If it's 10% methane 88% H2, would eco-warriors claim victory? They should.
(realizing some complications, steel pipe hydrogen embrittlement?? Leakage, diff combustion characteristics....)
Process as described should very gradually increase atmospheric O2, assuming oxygen makes it to surface, H2 will find a way out and then mostly leave Earth entirely, leaving less water and more O2. By us burning it there's no net change in water or O2, just a cycle.
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@jeffg4570 We don't even know what the situation is here, just speculation, can't be about Starlink IMO, they don't sell the receivers nor turn on the system for China. You can't hide the receiving dishes, the CCP has a problem with VPNs not Starlink.
SpaceX and Tesla are doing fantastic, this whole Twitter distraction narrative is a fabrication, obviously the Establishment vilifies Elon, they are guilty as hell as the T. Files show, way beyond the wackiest conspiracy theories.
So distract, divert and continue using Orwell's 1984 as an instruction manual, it's worked so far.
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@labandonaldhock80 You don't understand...all combined uses beyond fuel are tiny in comparison and can easily enough, cost effective at far lower than today's petroleum price, be made from biomass profitably. Oil is the easiest extracted commodity to replace other than water.
Example: Local to me we have massive piles of wood chips that used to be consumed in wood fired electric plants, much more is readily available but now burned dirty in open fields (retarded politics).
A subsidiary of Shell Oil proposed a $200M plant to turn the cellulose into diesel, kerosene (Jet fuel) with some H left over. (goes without saying that rubber, plastics, fertilizers, lubricants, etc., can be made instead) Not sure if it will happen but it's a viable technology, the only thing likely slowing it down is previous cheap petrol and toxic California policy environment against building anything new.
Many other ways to create oil and it's derivatives for everything but mass surface transport fuel, not about to be enough for that. Gasoline and diesel going to be mostly obsolete by say 2035/40. Methane for rockets can be created from electricity, air and water...or obviously, decaying biomass.
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@GolLeeMe Partially just trolling you, but all platitudes aside, what specifications does it excel at? Range, performance, software, OTA updates, price, pleasing to use, driver dynamics, storage cap....?
Results matter, not so much their claimed design approach which every mfg touts and advertises as SO special.
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@Koroar IDK your situation obviously, and my story was prior to online dating.
Mind U not all the girls I indulged in were high quality or even attractive, but somehow the word got around that I was good at servicing them (or something) and they sort of snowballed, kept coming around.
They all treated me well as I did them, a few even thanked me which is really sweet, made me feel good about it. Coming back for more is communication enough. :D
Almost no one here wants advice, let alone from me, but...anyone who wants to escape solitude and get laid sometimes:::::
Get the heck offline and out and about. I just now met a sexy single neighbor, also lives alone, we did some shopping at antique/thrift stores, traded numbers w tentative plans to get together. My odds for getting physical w her are good.
Start by mixing it up with girls who you mainly like the personality of but that aren't attractive enough to be in demand, even fat chicks, hopefully grateful to have the attention. Be surprised how much quality FUN practice and education a wanting, less attractive girl can offer.
The experience may set you free to advance from there. . Can lead to a relationship or just a pleasant FB situation, it's up to YOU. As soon as you are getting satisfied, no longer blatantly thirsty, others will become available.
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