Comments by "Ronin Kraut" (@roninkraut6873) on "New York Republicans slam cop-killer being put on police reform board" video.

@cleenlivin Maybe we should start following the money to find out whose behind all of this
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Why is that insanity? If they were convicted of a crime and then served their time then should they not be able to be integrated back into society? Why should a felony be a life long sentence?
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@gdaddy5193 Maybe. There are cases of felons not being repeat offenders and then we can look at some causes as to why they are repeat offenders. If they are habitually in and out of jail then they most likely won’t have time to vote. You can expunge your record but you still have been convicted in a criminal court so I’m not sure if you can still vote (I think that’s the question that’s asked). Isn’t the consequence of breaking the law the time/fine served? If the issue is lax sentencing then shouldn’t we address that instead of blanket policies of not allowing people to vote? Putting someone in prison is taking away rights. I don’t think we should have people voting from prison but I think we can do better.
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@gdaddy5193 I understand as you continue to break the law the consequences get more severe. I also understand that even though it’s a law it doesn’t make it right. There are cases of 18-21 year olds that have a felony conviction and they lose their rights for life. Non violent offenders too. Some of them are in the 30-40’s and haven’t broken the law since. I think those people should be able to vote. If there has been enough time that has gone by then maybe they are not the same person they were 10, 15 or even 25 years before. It’s shouldn’t be a lifetime punishment. Of course not everyone’s story is the same and some people deserve their rights being taken.
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@gdaddy5193 No, the Trump prison reform bill doesn’t ring a bell. I’m familiar with the First step act which you are grossly mischaracterizing. The aim of the bill was to help prisoners take classes that would reduce recidivism, reduce stacking of charges, allow inmates to be imprisoned closer to their communities, allow senior inmates to be housed outside of prison in a more old folks style of home or released on medical (again if they meet certain age requirements) there was also a provision for correction officer training and gun storage. I think you’re talking about what some liberal Dems did in CA and NY when they tried releasing a bunch of inmates during COVID and claimed the bill allowed them to do so. NY also had tried to reform their justice system and allowed violent offenders to be on home release with disastrous results. That’s not what I’m trying to get at. But you do raise a very important point about expungement. I don’t think you can get a felony conviction expunged to get your voting rights back. Driving is considered legally to be a privilege and not a right so that may be how you were able to do it. Is there any room to you about this subject how you could see maybe there could be improvements? Or are we just at an impasse and will just simply have to agree to disagree?
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@gdaddy5193 Yeah, that’s the first steps act. When you read the actual language it’s not about letting mass amounts of inmates out except during COVID they (and I mean democrats) used the act to justify letting a ton of inmates out. The DOJ tried fighting them on it. I didn’t realize it was called the Trump crime bill since I’ve never heard anyone refer to it that way. The bail reform was a huge problem and caused more crime. I think we are on the same page as far as crime and punishment goes. I’m just not a supporter of taking someone’s rights away in certain instances like when an 18 year old gets busted at a party where drugs are found and he gets a felony charge. That’s an entire lifetime of not being allowed to vote for a mistake. Of course that doesn’t always happen but sometimes it does and I’m saying we need to address those examples. Again, I don’t want prisoners to be voting.
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@brandonr.7262 Dude for sure money makes things go away. I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve seen where kids not just adults get fucked over in the plea deal. And I also agree that you have a right to defend yourself and if you have a family them too. A felony conviction is like a life sentence because it limits what job you can have and even places you can live. It’s BS
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