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N Marbletoe
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Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "Converted Libertarian Nails the Psychology of the Right" video.
Ya, I find both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party to be very... inconsistent on freedom. The most obvious to me are the freedom to marry who you like, arm and defend yourself, and grow the plants you like. Some other issues are more complicated (such as abortion and economics) but those three are pretty much slam dunks imao. And yet not one Supreme Court Justice seems to be in favor of the basic definition of freedom, do what you want as long as it doesn't harm someone else...
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Obama did good work, but we still don't have universal coverage. Now in Singapore they have universal coverage AND a free market for drugs and doctors, use your insurance wherever you want. They get better outcomes at 1/3 the cost... I think we need a mixed system like that.
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still need insurance for big events, right? most people won't have 100 or 200k for a major operation even if they could afford a few grand a year for other stuff. Singapore has total coverage insurance, plus a free market for doctors and drugs, and they only spend a total of 1/3 what we spend, including the insurance.
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yes, but there is some limit to how cheap things get. I don't imagine a $1.05 kidney anytime soon. So unless everyone is swank enough to have X dollars saved up, to cover hospital costs and lost wages, some people will get financially wiped out by a medical event, or just die. And X is a big deal even if it's only 10k instead of 200k. Hence, insurance. It's necessary if the goal is to avoid people dying from treatable things. Insurance can be a lot cheaper with some free market in it. I think it would be a lot cheaper as single payer also. Either way, we need a free market in actual medicals -- if we could just use the insurance for whatever doctor, hospital, or drug company we wish..... But reducing medical emergencies to the price of a cheap sofa is probably not realistic, and like half of Americans don't even have $500 they can spare.
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<"what kind of treatable things?"> Car crash injuries. Broken spleen is treatable, but not if you can't pay! Now if one just expects the hospitals to treat people who don't have the cash, then we're just spreading the cost around in a different way. That's a worse method than insurance. Insurance should be the average cost of health care, plus a percent or two for profit. Competition might get us there. Single payer does have issues, as you mention. Bottom line, without coverage people will get died and/or hospitals will have to charge everyone else mucho mas dinero to treat those who can't pay.
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great point! that's why I would like to see a Libergreen party, or perhaps Greenitarian...
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also conservative politicians (not necessarily the people) are quite medieval on pot. In practice it also seems that conservative congressmen in general favor government-enforced monopolies on things like health insurance, as long as they get their cut (same with liberal congressmen)
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