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Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "First peer-reviewed vaccine evidence" video.
You may be misconstruing his statements. He says that we should wait and not vaccinate people with a history of strong allergic reactions. The "not concerned" -- I think -- means he's not concerned that the vaccine is going to fail as a whole.
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You didn't hear him right.
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Meanwhile, Japan has the virus, no lockdowns, and 1/100th the cases per million. . Yaki soba!
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Both the control group and the vaccine group would have included many people who had the virus. . So yes, we know that it's safe if you had it, within the statistical uncertainties.
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Not surprised, the research is just being published, but looking very good.
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Yes, seems to be excellent recent evidence for Ivermectin. On the other hand, the opposite seems to be the case with hydroxy.
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The reason people mistrust official sources is because they have your attitude. . Someone disagrees? Fine them! Punish them! . That is not something that builds trust.
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@jerrycann9072 Yes, indeed! A control would be accurate. I'm not sure if it would be a placebo or not.
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@klondike444 Hey now,! Christine P has a monopoly on useless snide comments. Let him/her/it have that pleasure. . Bots have so few pleasures in life. Oil, voltage, random sarcasm...
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There are two continents behaving properly throughout this dogpile, only two. Yeah North America is not one of them :(
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@TheKeswani I imagine they were full, but double diluted. . Everyone in the UK got a half dose, everyone in Brazil got a full first dose! . This is concerning, and even more that AstraZeneca and the press seem to be trying to not talk about the fact it was an accident, even though though it is public knowledge. Looked at the AstraZ page, it really almost lied about that fact. It was like "We will be leveraging fortunate variation in the dosage to see if some doses work better than others..." . I am pro vaccine, but they need to stop dithering.
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link source or it's assumed fake
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@angelatester2471 Did I state differently? . PS I would be interested to hear more, however!
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You can plug those numbers into a binomial distribution test and get the p-value.
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which vaccine was that? . I know MOderna had older folks
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@bidentity69 Chimps and bonobos, actually. They appear to be equally related to us.
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@bidentity69 Yes, it seems that Chimps and Bonobos are a branch, and we are the sister species to that branch. So there's hope for us! lol
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It evolved to be far less deadly, and then it blended in with the other flu strains. . And like Angela said, that took 3 years.
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@esecallum cite study
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@rawstarmusic Yes, I believe we can shut down virus outbreaks without shutting down entire countries, states, or economies. . The research I think agrees. Armor up!
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Yes, we do. Ivermectin is wonderful but it is not a cure and does not prevent 100% of cases. It does help at all stages -- new data is being published, real studies.
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@tamicrisp3639 What's your point?
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@tamicrisp3639 I agree :) Both are helpful.
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Yup. That might be fortunate mistake... but to not say it was a mistake... that is unfortunate indeed.
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I don't know that it stops transmission. It appears to help people at all stages of the disease, including prevention.
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@kimberlyaccurso1921 How? They have almost zero cases. . I hear they are waiting for a couple months to evaluate the vaccine as it is rolled out to nations who need it now. That is both wise and compassionate, a true gift to the rest of the world.
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Positivity rate... that's not... Do you mean prevalence? Like, what % of the people had it?
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If someone complains it gets listed as an adverse reaction.
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Two people can hang out with no risk to each other, if either one of them is immune. . However, we can still move virus around with the hands and bags and such. So wash hands and objects, change clothes maybe -- both before and after visiting. . Just my 2 cents. .
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@John Morris I agree, he did not seem callous to me.
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It is certainly a major blunder -- they accidentally gave half doses to the entire UK test group's first shot! Perhaps a single dilution error post-production. . Basic mistakes happen in all organizations. It reminds me of the Space Shuttle disaster when Fienman was questioning NASA in front of Congress, and while he was talking he had an o-ring soaking in ice water... "An O-Ring like this one, yes?" (breaks it in half with a snap). . Major blunders may indicate poor management. Or they may be just "perfect storms" . If the management is good, they will own up to the mistake RIGHT AWAY. They won't punish people for speaking up. How is Oxford?AstraXZenica doing in that respect?
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What were the confidence intervals reported for the 94+% estimates?
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It's real. . Also real: vaccine derived polio is one of the last remaining sources of polio. . All I am saying is give peas a chance. Let's not assume we are always right because that is wrong.
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I am fairly sure that there is no data on that question. Valuable to mention, but how could they have tested it during the trials? Very difficult.
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@petero9584 Sure, let us assume that is all true. But that does not explain the difference between the vaccine and the control groups. . This is the key to study design. Test for difference.
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John did NOT say the reactions were not significant.
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7.8 billion
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