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Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "Post infection immunity, good news" video.
There are many simple things that are not being done. Proper surveys, for example. And like you say, simply testing a group every two weeks.
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Certain universities have some of the best testing/ monitoring programs I have heard about. I think younger age schools could do some of the same strategies. . For example, how about swab all the doorknobs every day and for one test, you can see if there's anything on the most used surfaces. . In other words, yes, but smartly, since it is hard to test everyone every couple days.
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@theopeterbroers819 interesting!
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Polio is almost gone, smallpox is gone, and Daytime TV is also gone. What are the distinguishing characteristics of diseases that stay vs go extinct?
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yes
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Lol we have plenty of hypo's, but not enough arms. Thus, the priority in Congress of funding the military.
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@alancarre7590 I agree 100%, we should be allowing people to visit their sick relations if they are likely to be immune due to vaccine or having cleared the virus. It is a great blessing to be with a loved one at the end! And it is one of the best ways to help them heal and live longer. . A person in Albuquearque just sued a hospital to let him visit his wife, and he won the case.
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Our leaders do not comprehend science, and seem incapable of grasping basic concepts.
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Think about how diseases like that spread...
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@douglascrockatt3101 The CDC I think estimated that 1/3rd of the excess deaths in the USA were from lockdowns and other disruptions, 2/3rds from Covid.
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in a logical world
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@flumpaustin1994 I think it is a good idea to touch the mask, in particular, when removing or donning. . It is also said that a golden voice can touch the heavens.
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About half of the USA has already been infected, so we only need another 30% on top of that to get vaccinated to reach the herd impunity threshold.
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@hippophile I did not address extinction of the virus. Did you mean to respond to someone else's comment?
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@hippophile Ok I see what you mean. So yes, I agree, herd immunity in nature would often lead to a dynamic equilibrium between a pathogen and the host. Neither would go extinct. . It's... complicated. It can go other ways. One or both can go extinct. . Also, often there is selection pressure for evolution of a milder disease symptoms. That is not generally true for vector born diseases such as malaria, but for a virus that requires contact it is a strong hypothesis. .
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That's like telling people to not mind the tiger because it could be a rhino.
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Yes, my dad said that the news said that Moderna said their vaccine works just as well on half doses...
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Your experience and the research paper could both be true. A small but non-zero re-infection rate is consistent with the paper's results, and also consistent with a large number of re-infections in the world, given the billions of infections.
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@gothgoddessrhia Thanks for your info! The virus is no joke. I think some of the strangeness is because it is new to humans, and we are new to it.
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In related news, The Prophet Isaiah predicted it, so he must have planned it.
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I doubt that health care workers were so careless in the early period compared to the late period that it would explain such a large number going without a re-infection. .
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That's a good question, since they are nearly 100% specific and the information is extremely helpful. .
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I wonder if Dr. John is also a ham... (In the good way of course)
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@markpoling8111 hmmm... "By failing to integrate testing into clinical care, we have missed an important opportunity to better understand the role of asymptomatic infection in transmission" . Interesting. Yet another mass failure to even attempt science. . The next pandemic should be stopped by the host country, and then after that, the rest of the world should use science. . All in favor say "Randomize"
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good question
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oh lots of people are using it
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Mile high by the fourth of July!
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@sikaifu5509 That was a mis-statement, the paper says the reverse, that they know nothing about asymptomatics.
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tested both times?
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Are they doing random invitation surveys to estimate true numbers? Or just counting test results, like here in the US? . I think that scientific monitoring is much more important than the world's governments realize.
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@mikerope5785 Probably about 40% of the UK has had the virus.
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Why would it make things worse if they are immune? Maybe from the flu, so that's a fair point...
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@baronvonlimbourgh1716 agree, no more Stasi please. That has been tried. It didn't help the health.
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Troll not my friend. It is only hurting you yourself.
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No 100% cure. There are much better treatments now vs April.
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If the response was truly well organized and science based, we would do what you say. Our leaders however are so incompetent in science they are not even counting the cases with proper surveys.
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@christopherrobinson7541 The US, state of NM. I even like our state leaders but they don't understand things like random sampling.
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true
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Variants arise due to mutation. . Vaccines are the least profitable way to make money on a disease.
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Indeed, there are occasional reports. However, with over 100 million people infected in the USA alone, that could easily be due to false positives or actual, but very rare, re-infections.
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@douglascrockatt3101 I believe that the 200k was the latter, "with" covid, since at the time of the study, there were ~ 200k total deaths with Covid. . Considering that, we can make an informed guess that roughly half excess deaths were from Covid, and half from lockdowns.
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it clearly lasts at least 10 months. if it reinfection were common the news would be counting the cases every day by the thousands
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years? Was the 1965 Ford Fairlane built in 1913?
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@guidospanoghe8896 Ok interesting! Makes sense, I do think this could end up as a cold type situation. The virus can evolve to be less deadly and we can adapt to be more resistant to severe cases. The vaccines will be a part of this, clearly.
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@flumpaustin1994 Lol I hope you also signal your virtue by washing your hands! You are the first one who will benefit.
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People often conflate the virus for the illness. PCR does not test for the SICKNESS, only the VIRUS. . Both the official news and the fake news bots make this mistake every day.
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@gl1406 I reckon that Iceland ran it correctly, when they found < 0.6% infected in the entire country, meaning the false positive rate was less than 0.6%. . All labs should publish the number of cycles.
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