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Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "Coronavirus, Long term immunity more likely" video.
daily walks in the sun
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They probably never see a live cow, only parts and conveyor belts.
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We can hire dogs to do the essential jobs, and we can mull around the kitchen and patrol for cats and burglers.
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@hn3864 woof woof (awesome!) i love animals, ive done a lot of bird research, mostly wild songbirds/ migration ecology
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that was must the god of cows giving you a mark because you are kind to them
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The media have been awful on this topic. There is of course concern, as we don't become fully immune to the flu or the cold. . But their actual headlines have been at times blatantly false, and often misleading on a good day. . The Guardian had a typically awful one this month.
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They get hard to detect anywhere from zero days to a few months. Don't recall the exact details. I think after 3 months the majority of positives turned to negatives in one study. Some people never tested positive for antibodies (they probably had a T-cell response).
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If there is cross-resistance, it would presumably be based on shared structures, whether that is the spike or one of the other proteins.
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yeah I expected to post another dozen comments "Ignore the Guardian headline" and "T-cells" and "this is normal." . Wow! This is awesome!
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Does the squirrel have a fund me page? I'd like to help.
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dogs rock
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... immune to sarcasm
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I think there is a chicken coronavirus
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same structure
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convalescent plasma works but it just helps for a day or two, doesn't give immunity but it's a good treatment
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@dianecraig1119 Ah yes! Well certainly, that makes sense. Thanks :)
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@hn3864 Did you work with sick chickens? How do you know your exposure...
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Citation? . I think you may have read it backwards. A scientific abstract can be a challenge. Some of the researchers are better writers than others...
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@silky2204 Oh ok, I thought the antibody response was short term, and the T-cells were long term. But i don't know much. . I'm thinking of memory T-cells, which have to be long term, and perhaps you are thinking of other types. .
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@silky2204 Right on
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more likely a mind case
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Taiwan estimated that China had 10x to 20x the reported infections. I think they had a very good team on that. However, China is doing very well overall, even if we 10x their numbers. So you may be right about the immunity.
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i bet that walking helps with that, because walking and running moves the lymph fluids that carry a lot of the immune system cells
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The antibody test is very specific, it does not pick up cold viruses.
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everyone otter know that ;) and I'm not fisher for compliments either
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Peter S I don't think it's a Hoax, Hoax are native to Abyssinia. It could be an Ibex or a Lorax perhaps?
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irrelevant
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Slight correction: t cells are produced in the marrow, and matured in the thymus. . But that shrinking thymus is real, and could be the answer to the age riddle.
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@paulg8730 Hey, some of us are made of germs! At least be polite if we identify as human genomes today. . Actually all of us are made of germs... my football coach said viruses account for 110% of the human genome. Humans are the culmination our high school careers. .
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@paulg8730 To say it in a more serious manner: we are made of viruses. . "Approximately 8% of the human genome is made up of endogenous retroviruses (ERVs), which are viral gene sequences that have become a permanent part of the human lineage after they infected our ancient ancestors." . We wouldn't be here if not for our little "germ" friends. . "It has been suggested that viruses are not only necessary for the existence of placental mammals, but also for the existence of life in general. Professor Luis P. Villarreal, the Founding Director of the Center for Virus Research at UC Irvine, says it like this: “So powerful and ancient are viruses, that I would summarize their role in life as ‘Ex Virus Omnia’ (from virus everything).”" -https://medium.com/medical-myths-and-models/the-human-genome-is-full-of-viruses-c18ba52ac195
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@J Hibberd I'd love to see the paper, "Dog Affection Explains 94% of Life" in the journal Nature. . I'm sure it's true, but proof takes time. We have to account for the increased quality of research by scientists who have dogs, the increased quality of dogs who play with more dogs, and ad on infinitum. .
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@J Hibberd I don't know if we can catch any. I was joking about the dogs. A dog lover thinks a dog's love is worth more than all the gold in the world.
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Falling levels is part of the way the system works. It does not indicate loss of immunity.
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@-TheRealThing- Ah very interesting!! . Ok certainly, the antibody response does look more like cold-type than measles-type immunity. .
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Peter S We have to keep those guys happy, or at least well medicated
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Well put. Masks give 14% risk reduction, eye protection 10%, staying 1m away 10%. All those add to the % immune to get us to the magic number of 70% for herd immunity.
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they are certainly watching out for that. there's something about a TH-1 vs TH-2 response.
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@jwarmstrong lol there's always a bright side
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Probably yes
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Meatpackers don't work with the live cows. . Fascinating research topic though -- because a portion of the workers would work with live cows. Same town, same company, one difference in exposure.
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There are millions of people getting it, there will always be some anomalies when there are millions of something. .
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"Get" your D -- not necessarily "take" it About ten minutes in the sun would make 1000IU :)
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@themadmattster9647 I don't see wikipedia saying "misinformation" on their covid-19 disease page. (there are other similar pages though) . That page says "The COVID-19 pandemic raised concerns that vitamin D deficiency may be a risk factor for respiratory infection,[87][89][90][91] but there is only preliminary evidence of a direct association between vitamin D deficiency and COVID-19 infection.[92]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019 . Good job getting yours!
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@themadmattster9647 Ok there it is! what nonsense. people today are smarter than our encyclopedias lol
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@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 New Mexico, but now we have a week of rain coming up lol! Which we love; water is life. Monsoon has started and it may rain every afternoon.
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@The_TexasTickler I think the US estimate is closer to 10% today.
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"They" were the news, and the news can't get a story about rulers straight. . The scientists did not ever say that. They said the antibodies were going down. That's not the same thing. . Experience with disease shows us immunity
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He cites research. We can all read the primary literature -- go to google scholar! -- except a lot of it is paywalled. You can usually read the abstract though.
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@imhigh0013 Look for the links in the notes below video headline. . I personally don't bother with WHO or CDC websites. I go to google scholar for peer reviewed stuff. I strictly avoid news reports, other than to look for links to the research. . Above all I don't mind news headlines lol they are antimatter for intelligence
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@jwarmstrong I bet nobody ever called you a smartass
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Probably not. For a mild illness, you probably generated a strong immune response, that's why it was mild. If you beat it once, why would it win a second time, when you have more advantage the second time!
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