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Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "Saturday 25th April, Global Update" video.
@nyali2 The lockdown in Italy prevented a ton of cases! It probably didn't shorten the overall length of time that Italy will be dealing. People think Italy was bad, but what % actually got it? 5%?? It could have been 10-20 times worse.
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The flu is an entirely different type of virus. Coronavirus is a negative-sense RNA virus. Flu is a positive sense RNA virus. Flu and coronavirus are as closely related as a person and a cabbage! Better to compare to the cold, SARS, MERS, and some chicken and cow coronaviruses.
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@NiskRanThawll ok cool, yeah it is fascinating that viruses jump species, and that sets the stage. Many diseases should evolve to be less deadly -- for their own good! Come on, evolution, work with us here! The more we isolate the worst cases, the more we can encourage that.
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if that were true it'd be great, but it's not Navajo nation has greater infection rate than Maryland.
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Most mutations don't matter for immunity. It only matters if the mutation is in the same location as the antigen. If the antigen is the spike protein, the virus can't mutate it without affecting it's ability to infect cells. You may be right that treatment will be more important than vaccination, as there is no guarantee that any vaccine will work at 100% or close.
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yes! and how to disinfect
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@freddupont3597 "until westerners shut their screaming prejudice," you might want to try that lol
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well let's all run the world based on memes! lol just take them as amusing anecdotes that mean less than a cricket fart
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put uv lights on the conveyor belt?
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luckily we got some immune system genes from Neanderthal!
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I'm kinda glad you are experimenting with opening. In my opinion it's not when, but how. There are things that can open today, with proper technique.
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"They" would make a LOT more money if we were working. Who do we work for anyway lol
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both the virus and the heroes have been suppressed
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@naomisherred166 Mutations are not the same as strains. A strain arises when one or many mutations make a significant functional difference in the virus. Most mutations will make no difference. Also, a vaccine will try to target areas that cannot mutate without harming the virus (e.g., the spike protein).
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it's better to watch cartoons you could drive yourself literally insane looking for clues in people on the tv
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@GeminieCricket why inside?
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@Kristina_617 If spread were simply due to population density, all us "flyover" people could go back to normal life! Don't be shocked if twitter is wrong about something. Pop density is not the only factor. I'm sure you understand the situation, but the quote from twitter is just wrong.
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@Kristina_617 Yeah I was a bit too harsh on the twitter comment. Density WOULD be the most important factor, except that we are an intelligent species, so we COULD make it ~ meaningless with proper behavior. What matters "on the ground" is not population density of a large area (city state or nation), but the density at a smaller scale -- the thousand square feet around me. To be specific, the number of close contacts per day . That usually scales with population density of an area, but maybe not with isolation. In conclusion, population density would be a great predictive factor for virus spread IF and only IF we had not evolved communication, foresight, and a kerbal space program.
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@stasiaspade1169 haha perfect!!! The spread of the virus depends on two things: 1. population density 2. intellectual density
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Why would someone try to depopulate the world by healing it's people? The logic on this subject is sometimes hiding like a nightjar. (that's a bird that is hard to see in the wild).
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@mummys_boy_ I don't like Gates because all the Microsoft misbehaviour back in the day. However, if a person wants to kill people, there are better ways of doing it than saving people.
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@7YBzzz4nbyte I'd also love to hear more about the evolution of the virus. It should be getting less deadly, as you say!
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yes, there are dozens or hundreds of mutations, but no known "strains" or varieties that behave differently.
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is Colorado opening?
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good quality coffee is better for the nerves. in fact, i need espresso type (or french press/ aeropress), drip coffee does not feel so good for my stomach or capillaries in the quantities in which it must be consumed to make up for the lack of espresso
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CFR is a very poor stat, until all the cases are known and cataloged. It can read 90% one day and 9% the next... to exaggerate slightly.
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Actually the virus is doing what they do. It's possible it was enhanced in the lab, but diseases have been around since the first cell.
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true, but it's strong evidence for antibody involvement, and even stronger for the idea that people get immune after they recover.
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will people have to wear masks in the store?
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@Larrypint the first wave has already peaked. I think it's too early to "reopen" but we could open some things, carefully, step by step, in some places. It's not when, but how we open that matters most.
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@mikemanley9199 DR: "wasnt the whole point to flatten the curve?" BM: "No,it was for the hospitals to not get overrun" Me: "That's the same thing."
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@mikemanley9199 ok makes sense. For sure. Every person that gets sick is a cost to society, even if hospitals have room for them. Not to mention of course, "ouch," the small picture; it always matters to the person involved! I think we can re-open some things now in many places in the USA. It's not so much when, but how. For example: drive in theaters, wilderness outdoor recreation... Time to start thinking about phases and details, beyond lockdown, "stay inside" or other slogans that over simplify.
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It was inevitable because it was ALREADY THERE. Just smaller numbers, earlier phase in the curve.
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the WHO doesn't have a "position" if all they are saying is "I don't know."
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@DeepReTheDebrief " if the virus goes dormant for a few days in your system and reerupts" That is NOT getting it again! That's simply not getting all the way better yet. I'd be very surprised if immunity is zero or 100% for survivors. The WHO should comment as soon as their is actual, reliable, random-sample scientific data.
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diagnosed? not possible. 46% have it and might not know? maybe.
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of course it's true. but if we didn't isolate, we'd reach herd immunity so fast it'd sink the boat.
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just because yours fell off
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the average income of my county just doubled!
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draconian just means very tough, it doesn't mean that it isn't a good idea
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no you don't have COVID for life. Get a life. Stop making up random shit.
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which supposition? (time stamp useful :)
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Yes, I think there are two, for a chicken and for a cow coronavirus.
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try buy one anywhere
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It's not so real-time. Say that you and Bob have the app. Bob tests positive next tuesday. He puts in that fact into his app. Later on Tuesday, the app tells you that someone has tested positive that has been near you. That's what I'm guessing at how it will actually work
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and you can't even buy a dust mask! at least I can't, small town in the US
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I think we should start opening up businesses, step by step, smartly, but everyone (especially employees!) should be wearing masks. In NM here, only two cases in my county so far, I like isolating but we can do more with less risk than what's happening right now.
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no, and he's said he doesn't. New listener?
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It is false to say what you said. Stop pretending you know.
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he NEVER said China figures are accurate. EVERY time he goes over the numbers he says "of course, they are wrong." GO AWAY. Stop commenting on public media. We are using this space for actual communication.
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TurboCMinusMinus Insulting the intelligence of nations doesn't help. It only makes you look dumb.
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No. If that were true, they would have hyped the virus from the beginning. How did their financial interest change in February?
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