Comments by "N Marbletoe" (@nmarbletoe8210) on "Why people think this photo of JFK's killer is fake" video.

  1.  @swankybutters8371  Roscoe White, yes. Friend of Oswalds in the Marines, hired by Dallas PD as a photo expert. White's wife and Oswald's wife lived together.
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  2.  @idek6585  Appointed by one of the conspirators, the commission was not independent.
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  3. Os failed the gunshot residue tests: Warren Commission itself stated there was no evidence he had fired a rifle.
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  4.  @swankybutters8371  Oh I think I got Mrs. White confused with Mrs. Paine.
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  5. I hear that Life was going to run a story that month on corruption of LBJ, but the other events obviously took precedence.
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  6.  @cardiffwilly  "No reason to assume he's an intelligent person" because you didn't research it, one presumes. "Oswald appears to generally have been regarded by his fellows overseas [Japan] as an intelligent man..." (National Archives, JFK Assassination files, Appendix 13 Oswald Biography, page 684)
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  7. Indeed. Even the House Select Committee concluded there was probably a conspiracy.
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  8.  @Its_RichieRich  Why would Oswald use makeup to make his chin look bigger?
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  9.  @spokentruth5909  the actual shooters
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  10.  @JohnJohnson-pq4qz  The only fingerprints on the rifle were those of an LBJ bag man. PS not on the rifle in the room, if I recall.
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  11. Indeed. I stopped watching at that point and went to the comments
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  12.  @swankybutters8371  Tippit was probably shot to provide a body double. He's a dead ringer for JFK
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  13. excellent questions
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  14. yes the chin really looks different. Some think it is Roscoe White's chin. Roscoe was a marine in the same wing as Oswald, as well as a photographic expert who started working in the Dallas PD October 7, 1963.
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  15. yes, actually it was negative for cheek but positive on the hands. he may have fired a pistol but not a rifle, or the residue may have been from printing ink
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  16. He was recruited early. Ferry and the Air Nat Guard...
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  17. it's been figured out, people just still trying to smokescreen
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  18. yup, the faces are identical, which is basically impossible if they are two different pictures
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  19.  @Nikita-zo4gp  yes interesting possibilities i was thinking about another thing they really want to keep secret: heros. anyone who tried to stop the assassination and maybe lost their life. for example if Naval Intel or even Oswald himself was actually trying to stop the assassination and just got worked by the CIA
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  20. Well said, and interesting info on the connections!
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  21. Yes. Roscoe was actually hired by DPD as a photo expert!
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  22. Wallace, a close associate of LBJ
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  23. Oswald's wife said she believes Oswald was innocent, interview with Oprah, Nov 22 1996.
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  24. Just watched a great vid about Mac Wallace. They got the two best fingerprint experts from Texas and they ID'd Wallace on a box from the sixth floor. Wallace was a valedictorian soldier professor who people at one time thought could have been president.
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  25. PS Wallace also apparently had connections with Office of Naval Intel
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  26.  @swankybutters8371  Roscoe is very interesting. Fellow marine, friend of Oswald in the Marines (do I recall correctly?), worked on same U2 project. Expert photo manipulator. Hired by Dallas PD in Sept 1963!
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  27. establishing a cover. LHO did in fact work with intel, he was recruited as a marine if not earlier in the Civil Air Patrol (which was headed by the guy who owned the Book Depository!)
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  28.  @Mordalo  Most people don't realize he lived a spy movie life.
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  29.  @swankybutters8371  Yeah it is probably a small chance, but it sure is odd that someone who looks so much like JFK was shot the same day same place. Now that I think about it, it'd be much smarter to procure the body double weeks in advance...
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  30. possibly michael paine, although i think it was actually Oswald's head on someone else's body, maybe roscoe white fairly good chance paine was the Oswald who shot Tippit
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  31. Yup Kennedy was going to US end troop deployment and just support South Vietnam to fight the North. Johnson is interesting. His associate Dry Hole Byrd owned the Book Depository.
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  32. and then thousands of people research it and write hundreds of books, and pretty much nail it down.
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  33.  @kiddeath96  apparently all items regarding Oswald in the cia were routed to Angleton, who has the characteristics of a potential mastermind
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  34. she also said Oswald didn't do it
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  35.  @calva221  there is a principle of law where if a person's testimony on one thing is false, their testimony on other things is suspect. Judge: objection sustained, case not closed.
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  36. There were two or three shooters. LBJ, intel, and a small group of Mafia were the planners. Oswald was recruited by intel years before. The probably told him he was in Dallas to protect the president.
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  37.  @emmasanders6226  also the gun in the ad was one size, and the gun the FBI said was Oswalds was a different size. (one was 36" and one was 40" but i forget which was which)
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  38. indeed, that is an unscientific way for Vox to frame the debate
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  39.  @JohnJohnson-pq4qz  also the model ordered by mail seems to be a different length than the one the FBI claimed was Oswalds. one was 36" and one was 40"
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  40.  @troodon1096  try DH Byrd, David Ferrie, George Joannides, and james Angleton
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  41. It's simple. It is a photo of someone else, with Oswald's head pasted on top. (his head from the lips up to the top). In fact it was probably Roscoe White, marine, friend, photo expert, intel asset.
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  42. she also told Oprah that she didn't think Oswald shot JFK
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  43.  @Its_RichieRich  I mean, are you saying Oswald was grooven a feminine style, like Hoover? Except he made his chin wider... so he's a man playing a woman playing a man.
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  44. Check out who owned the Depository.
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  45. He may have told him the team was there to guard the pres, not shoot him. He was certainly involved but he may not have known the gig.
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  46.  @easternyellowjacket276  That would be a valid point! source?
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  47.  @easternyellowjacket276  Yup yup very interesting. Who planned the route, and when did they plan it?
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  48.  @easternyellowjacket276  So who planned it, and when? You act like you know.
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  49.  @easternyellowjacket276  When was the parade route planned? You claimed to have knowledge of this.
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  50.  @easternyellowjacket276  thx that is specific and interesting! This indeeed puts the final decision weeks after LHO's application to work at the TSD (~15 Oct if I recall) Also interesting... the Kennedy guy wanted a different route, but the Johnson man wanted it to go through the Plaza. Where it happened.
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  51. Yes, it is very minor. However it was probably done by Roscoe White, it could be White in the photo, and White and his wife are very important to the story.
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  52.  @robertromero8692  It is confirmation that a crumb was found. Who laid the crumb, and where the trail leads, is very interesting.
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  53.  @robertromero8692  Yes, he laid many of his own crumbs. This is how he became a Patsy. Btw you have heard that Oswald ordered a 36" rifle, paid for a 36" rifle, a crate of 36" rifles were delivered to Kleins, and the rifle shipped on to Oswald had a T in the serial number showing it was 36" model, but FBI's "Oswald's Rifle" is 40"
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  54.  @robertromero8692  A "real Dallas judge" sounds like the kinda guy you could sit down for a beer and bribe with.
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  55. Ike tried to warn us, Jack tried to save us, but the bashturds won the battle
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  56. Yup! He was deeply involved, but probably had no idea the Pres was going to be shot that day.
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  57. interesting there's a detailed video on these photos that shows many such anomalies
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  58.  @staidenofanarchy  Lol. Never heard of registering a gun by taking a photo and putting it in the garage. Can you see the serial number on the gun?
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  59.  @tugacralho2453  0:28 the video is already making unwarranted conclusions about who did what.
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  60. his motive was to be cool and do cool spy stuff. He was told he was there to protect the president. He didnt' fire a shot
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  61. I think he was told a different plan, such as perhaps there was going to be an explosion but not an assassination. Really not sure. Oswald's mindset is one of the great remaining mysteries.
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  62.  @littlefluffybushbaby7256  How many pictures did she take of that scene?
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  63. many files have been released. much has been learned. Mark Groubert has good videos, much fun, great storyteller
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  64.  @ejtattersall156  Lol so Ruby had no FBI connections, proof being, he was contacted eight times by the FBI as an informant. Ruby also had connections to mob boss Marcello... and so did Oswald through his uncle. Curious eh. If y'all want more fun look up who owned the Depository. Did this man [Edit: BYRD] start the Civil Air Patrol, which Oswald and David Ferrie joined? Does Ferrie have any other interesting connections? Such as, with a certain anti-castro group run by the CIA? Keep looking folks, but don't look if you don't want to know.
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  65.  @robertromero8692  What money did Ruby wire?
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  66. Roscoe White, hired 7 October 1963, former marine (same wing as oswald)
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  67. Roscoe White and Oswald had a lot of history together. Roscoe was also a photo expert.
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  68. Good thing Ruby wasn't shot too, we can ask him.
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  69.  @SilverEye91  innocent until proven guilty
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  70.  @SilverEye91  I agree, there was no verdict. Without a verdict of guilty, there is a legal presumption of innocence.
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  71. no and he also tested negative for GSR
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  72. I think his movie is fairly highly regarded among scholars of the field, although one said that he went way to easy on LBJ
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  73. Without a doubt
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  74. agree. Vox discredits their entire analysis by stating as if it were a fact that Oswald killed Kennedy.
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  75. I think the cop's radio recording showed 5 shots.
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  76. I'm not sure Lee took any shots. However, it is possible that some did come from that building.
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  77. that is quite possible, however it is almost impossible that Oswald did it
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  78. ​ @easternyellowjacket276  take a glance at a picture of Ruth and Michael Paine
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  79. One time LBJ bag man Billie Saul Estes testified before a Grand Jury that LBJ had ordered 8 murders... the eighth name was JFK (this was before it happened).
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  80.  @scotolbe  A friend of LBJs owned the Texas Schoolbook Depository
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  81.  @maniswolftoman  I'm just sayen, i'ts interesting. LHO gets a job 3 weeks before the parade, in this building. Who owned it is interesting.
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  82. odd how comments are disappearing like evidence witnesses and suspects...
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  83. Two witnesses say he did NOT have a package like curtain rods. One was the building manager at the TSD who saw him when he arrived, the other was some lady around where he lived.
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  84.  @robertromero8692  I don't remember the names, I'm no expert here. But one was the building manager or something.
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  85.  @robertromero8692  found it! TBSD employee Jack Dougherty. He testified that he saw Oswald arrive with nothing in his hands. Warren Commission hearings Volume VI page 376
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  86. Roscoe White is the man in the photo, and also the photo editor. (according to some).
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  87. a couple of Warren Commissioners refused to sign off on the report due to that magic theory
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  88. Roscoe White?
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  89. That's not why they got him though
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  90. Compelling perhaps because it uses clever tricks of rhetoric? 0:27 "two photos of Oswald in his back yard HOLDING THE GUN THAT KILLED THE PRESIDENT." This bit of conclusion is snuck into the premise. Maybe that's why a few of y'all are convinced, you were tricked.
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  91.  @davidgoetz2576  The court of public opinion was the only court Lee Harvey ever got. The photo was exhibit A to the public, untested, unchallengable because it's not in court.
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  92. you got it. the video appears to be slight of hand by Vox, using various tricks to get people thinking under the wrong assumptions
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  93. The truth is known, more or less. There's a lot of misinformation that makes it hard to find. (such as this video lol)
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  94. He saved the world in 62, along with the Soviet hero Vassily Arkhapov
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  95. They said they withheld them because people still living could be impacted. I say that's Busshit, give 'em sHerbert and take a Walk, er
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  96. nah they just part of the coverup
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  97. seriously?
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  98. LOL. It is implausible, to say the least.
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  99.  @LB-oz9hv  There seem to be interesting facts about Time-Life publisher Luce, e.g., he was in Yale Skull and Bones. He was a big supporter of Chiang Kai Shmeckel, and was called "the most influential private citizen of his day."
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  100.  @generalfred9426  The road sign on Zapruder was enlarged to hide some crucial event(s).
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  101. Taco Tuesday
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  102. 0:28 "holding the gun that killed the president" unproven.
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  103.  @swankybutters8371  I think he was deeply involved but had no idea what was actually happening. Naval Intelligence etc. fed him a long story to get him in the right place, right time, with the right history. They might have told him he was on a team to protect the president, who knows. He has intel connections going back years before.
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  104. some posit that it is Roscoe White's chin. Also White as a photo expert could have done the alterations and composites that produced the pictures.
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  105. Indeed! It is quite curious how he got the job there a month before the parade. DH Byrd, owner of the building, is a key character.
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  106. There's a lot of misinformation and false leads.
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  107. Northwoods
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  108. you got it
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  109. I read that the rifle Oswald ordered was a 36" and the one the FBI says was his is 40"
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  110.  @colbysmith3073  yes, zapruder was doctored. see the interviews with the guy who worked at the US govt photo lab. dudes in suits took the film and brought it back the next day. it was doctored at a Kodak lab.
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  111.  @Pygar2  Warren Commission concluded there was no evidence he had fired a rifle that day. (GSR tests)
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  112.  @Pygar2  Housekeeper Earlene Roberts was at his rooming house and said she saw him go in, put on a jacket and go to the bus stop. Also the Warren commission had special neutron analysis (very sensitive) done and did an experiment with seven volunteer shooters; 7/7 tested positive for cheek GSR. This doesn't prove his innocence. It is however, one more reasonable doubt.
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  113. Yes. For example, the Warren Commission looked at the gunshot residue tests and concluded there was no evidence he had shot a rifle.
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  114. Not KBG, they didn't hate Kennedy the way the others did Warren commission was told USSR did it so "conclude that Oswald acted alone" so we don't start WWIII
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  115.  @ImNotActuallyChristian  In the first 30 seconds, he starts stating things as fact which are unproven assumptions.
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  116. The chin may belong to Roscoe White. He's a very interesting character in all this.
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  117. LBJ was also going to be indicted soon for some serious stuff. The Kennedys were going to leak information that was so bad LBJ would have to step down from the VP spot or at least from the next campaign.
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  118. I concluded that at 0:28 when they start making false claims.
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  119. yup. and he had no time to get to Tippet, shoot him, and get back to the theater.
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  120. The Warren Commission concluded there was no evidence Oswald had fired a rifle.
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  121.  @mavjimbo  Yup. He analyzed photos for the U2 spy plane program.
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  122. Yup. A guy holding a different gun is not evidence for anything really.
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  123.  @patsyleeoswald9912  Indeed, the Warren commission said "at best, the analysis shows that Oswald may have fired a pistol..." but not a rifle. They did neutron activation as well as the usual test. They also had seven volunteers fire the gun and all seven tested positive using the same technique as was used with Oswald. All seven tested positive on hands AND CHEEK (Chest Rockwell, take note). Evidence suggests Oswald did not fire a rifle that day, per the Warren Commission itself.
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  124. yup! and he did it too. Dude worked on U2 spy planes, traveled the world, married a Russian General's daughter...
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  125. 5 shots on the policeman's radio
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  126. did you watch as far as 0:28, when Vox makes the first huge un-scientific mistake?
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  127. Tippet had two different kinds of bullets in him. Oswald had no GSR on his cheek. He didn't do it, or he had help.
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  128.  @Mcchrs  yes there's an interview with a guy who worked at a government photo lab. they got the Zap film, then two guys from the government came and borrowed it for a day, and gave it back changed.
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