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It’s more like it doesn’t matter if he did exist. It matters only whether there is empirical evidence for any supernatural claims. And there is not.
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@edwingibson628 That is the claim. Now go ahead and demonstrate the claim comports with reality, please.
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Whether a person named Clark Kent ever existed is rather mundane, unless you can demonstrate he was bullet proof and could fly.
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@LemonPepperPanda There is inductive reasoning that supernatural events have never been shown to be real. If your standard is “it has never been disproven”, when it has never been proven…. Then you must believe in every god as well as Big Foot, fairies, and leprechauns. Good luck with that.
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I’m not sure how or why you’d need Jesus to begin with. But Jesus made slavery permissible by his own laws. And he drowned babies.
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@elib9002 Paul never met Jesus. He had a vision. The gospels written by anonymous authors, and none of the gospels have a first hand claim to witnessing a resurrected Jesus. There are no contemporary writings for Jesus outside of the Bible. Scholars don’t agree with your assessment of the New Testament. Also, we have no original manuscripts.
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@elib9002 Apologist may make up such claims. No biblical scholars would agree. Nothing in historical texts would agree with you. Paul had a vision, and never met Jesus. Not a single first hand claim for witnessing a resurrected Jesus in the gospels. Only hearsay. Your entire world view is based on magic and make believe.
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And the Lord said unto Luke; Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father….
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@goldwhitedragon So, where is that demonstration of yours that a god exists? Oh right. That isn’t possible of no god exists.
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I got 99 problems, winning the lottery ain’t one.
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@matthewpaine6908 Free will is not what you think it is. Also, God is fiction.
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@andiincali.4663 the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them. "he refuses to face reality"
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Dude, you worship the gods that made it OK to own other people as property. And the god that got so angry over his own failure he commits genocide, and drowned babies. Besides, holding a belief in the supernatural, by definition, is irrational.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Fact, not opinion.
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@cadestekly6410 By definition, the supernatural is attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature. Attributed is the operative word here. Any supernatural claim is then unfalsifiable. How does one square holding an unfalsifiable world view? Using unreliable methods, perhaps? So the question is, how would you demonstrate the difference between what is supernatural and what is imaginary?
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@goldwhitedragon Define God.
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@kensperspective Sin is a silly concept.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 They’d be wrong. They could never ever demonstrate Jesus exists today. Sure, a mundane human may have existed in history, but not the magical Jesus some people believe in. Remember, many more billions disagree with you too. Are you even ware, there is not even one single first hand claim to having witnessed a resurrected Jesus in the gospels?
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Fallacy, Appeal to Popularity (Ad Populum) Description: The argument supports a position by appealing to the shared opinion of a large group of people, e.g. the majority, the general public, etc. The presumed authority comes solely from the size, not the credentials, of the group cited.
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@diegesisfreak excellent.
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@ready1fire1aim1 Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 He’s fiction, so of course.
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@goldwhitedragon Is repeating yourself your way of conceding?
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@goldwhitedragon What’s wrong? You can’t google definitions? No wonder you struggle. What else? Going to repeat yourself again?
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@strikezrow God is fiction. And so is sin. As is creation. The Bible makes claims, and doesn’t substantiate them.
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Rodgers never drowned babies, or told slaved to obey their earthly masters with all fear. Even the cruel ones.
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@goldwhitedragon Demonstrate a god exists.
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@goldwhitedragon Says the guy with no capacity for an intellectual response. And yeah, you’ve used that line before. Maybe get some fresh material.
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@cadestekly6410 How do you know whether someone’s testimony was correct? Do you realize how often people are wrong?
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@FullPerspective I’m sorry, but it absolutely is the No True Scotsman fallacy. And, your explanation confirms this to be the case. Even suggesting you understand what Christianity “actually” is, you mean true. As far as what you assume I would claim about Christianity isn’t relevant. It’s your fallacious argument that you’re the gatekeeper of what a True Scotsman would put in his porridge.
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@FullPerspective Oh, you’re annoyed when you use an obvious fallacy and get called out? Maybe don’t use fallacious arguments, then try to deny it. Maybe don’t assume you know better what other people think or believe than they do. Lol.
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@kensperspective It’s a silly concept because it requires your imaginary friend to exist in reality, and your imaginary friend is limited to the imagination. You do t seem like you’re aware that, according to the Bible, your God made slavery permissible by his own laws. Slavery is neither just, nor moral. But hey, neither is Hell, and your friend gets credit for creating Hell,and suffering. So start with demonstrating your god exists in reality, or admit you can’t. And as for understanding things properly, that also applies to reality…and you’re lacking there. But out of the two of us, I bet I’m the only,one who attended Seminary.
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Exactly. My neighbor could be named Clark Kent. Unless he could demonstrate he was bullet proof and could fly…I don’t care.
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@fredthefish581 Noah’s flood. According to the stories, anyway.
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@goldwhitedragon Reality 1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
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@cadestekly6410 I think, therefor I am. I am thinking, therefor I am. Thoughts are physical, by the way. They are a physical, chemical brain state. And your argument doesn’t demonstrate what you imagine actually exists in reality. It isn’t about disproving the supernatural. That is what you’re failing to grasp, It’s about whether you can demonstrate the supernatural exists in reality. And you can’t. Null hypothesis.
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@littlegiantj8761 Who made what? And what “heavy lifting” are you referring to. Have you no understanding of science, and natural processes? I bet you don’t.
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@littlegiantj8761 No, I don’t think I will. We don’t use that out dated system any longer.
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@littlegiantj8761 We don’t use leeches for bloodletting anymore either. We’ve also outlawed slavery.
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@FullPerspective Are you familiar with the No True Scotsman fallacy?
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@wingerding Sorry, but the Christian Bible,includes both the Old and New Testaments. And, the verse where Jesus directs slaves to obey their earthly masters is in the New Testament. It’s just dishonest to suggest the OT is not part of the Christian Bible, as every version of the Christian Bible today contains those chapters and verses. Also, according to the Christian Bible, Jesus said he was not here to change the laws, but fulfill them. Right?
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@wingerding It sounds like the course should be called Religious Studies, as opposed to science.
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@neutrino78x The point is that whether Jesus existed as a man isn’t relevant as to,whether or not he had any supernatural abilities, or was a god of any kind. What matters is whether it can be demonstrated that he had any supernatural abilities or was a god of any kind. And it can’t.
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@neutrino78x You’re absolutely wrong. The claim someone is magic doesn’t have the same validity as someone being mundanely human. It isn’t equally as valid to make such claims. All evidence in history points to the mundane, which means any natural explanation is far more likely. For the same reason, if I claimed to have a pet dog, versus claiming I have a pet dragon. Now, if you care to communicate like an adult, please start.
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@neutrino78x Now, go do a search on the null hypothesis, child.
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@thuggeegaming659 I’m hoping he asks about my pet dragon. 🤘
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@neutrino78x Go ahead and test my dragon. See, you already know through inductive reasoning dogs exist. The claim my pet dragon exists has the same lack of supporting evidence as every god. So no, it isn’t different. And your belief in a deistic god is completely unwarranted.
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And The Lord said unto Luke; Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father…
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@kensperspective Lack of proof means your claims cannot be demonstrated to be true, and as such do not warrant any level of confidence that they are true. In particular, the supernatural claims. I don’t have malice towards beings I don’t think exist. I can, however, offer an internal critique of characteristics based on the Bible, and the claims made within the Bible. I’m not mad at Darth Vader, either.
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@vs6300 That’s a compelling reason to believe Christians believed he existed. But look at how many people today are convinced the 2020 election was stolen. Doesn’t make it true. But a mundane human Jesus isn’t relevant to whether magic is real.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Yes, the mundane, very human version. The magic/supernatural version is fiction. Lots of people have recorded various supernatural claims throughout history. And historians reject supernatural claims because they aren’t true. Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real. The same applies to God.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Have you tried thinking?
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Many Roman emperors were declared gods by the Roman Senate. Right?
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 And the romans recorded them.
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@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 Yes. And there are people who were named Clark Kent. Unless they were bullet proof and could fly, I’m just not impressed.
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Remember when Jesus drowned all those babies?
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@cillyhoney1892 The linen that was used to create the hoax shroud was made using technology from around 1200-1300, when the hoax appeared in history. The technology for how the linen was made was not available during the time of Jesus. This is a known hoax.
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@mayowankenobi Circular reasoning is fallacious. It would matter if Jesus is who he says he is. It would matter if Vishnu was who she says she is. It would matter if Mohammed was who he says he is. It would matter if Odin is who he says he is. None of that means that any of them are who they say they are. Only fools reject science and believe any god exists when their is no empirical evidence to support such claims. Only fools are convinced by fallacious reasoning. Go back to the drawing board and figure out how to demonstrate that your imaginary friend is who he says he is. Also, go ahead and figure out why anyone should workshop a god that drowns babies, approves of slavery, and enjoys making people suffer. Explain why an immoral and unjust being is deserving of praise or worship.
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@frankserratos5022 Maybe you don’t know what that word means…?
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@frankserratos5022 Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more Phar·i·see noun a member of an ancient Jewish sect, distinguished by strict observance of the traditional and written law, and commonly held to have pretensions to superior sanctity. a self-righteous person; a hypocrite.
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@frankserratos5022 You know that feeling you get when you’re right about something? It’s the same feeling you get when you’re wrong about something but don’t know it.
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@frankserratos5022 I find slavery to be immoral. It denies free will and causes harm. Where does your moral compass land regarding slavery?
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@yarlkymcfirblatherington9879 The sooner, the better. ✌️
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@KorithStoneheart It’s not about choice. If you’re choosing beliefs, you’re probably wrong about a lot of things. A lot of what I know is based on reliable methods for measuring reality. It’s called science, and science happens to be our most reliable way to measure reality. If your method is to listen to what others told you, you’re probably wrong. I wouldn’t consider that a reliable method, unless the people,you rely can be shown to also be using reliable methods. I hope you’ve learned something here today.
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@Skiskiski And Harry Potter really was a wizard?
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@Skiskiski Gods that don’t exist can’t talk to anyone.
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@Sir_KnowsALot_ Actually, what you’d need to do is provide a way to show something exists in reality, and not just in the imagination. Do you have that? No, you’ve never consider it, I’d bet.
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@Sir_KnowsALot_ No, I am not. The supernatural could be real or could be imaginary. You’re twice now misrepresented my position, which is neither honest nor charitable. Nor have you made any attempt to address the question…which is a further demonstration of dishonesty.
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@Sir_KnowsALot_ I’d accept your well wishes to be sincere, if you were more honest when you engage.
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@Sir_KnowsALot_ Are you new here?
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@gregorytoews8316 I have no idea how to quantify how many people would be happy. Science doesn’t care how people feel about the evidence. I suppose it would depend on what that evidence was, and what it meant. Hypothetically, what if that meant ghosts were real, but gods were not? What if it meant unicorns were real, but leprechauns were not. However, if there was empirical evidence…we’d at least be able to start measuring and investigating.
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@gregorytoews8316 I’m not sure why you’re asking me such questions, since I don’t hold the positions you’re asking about. However, I do appreciate the non-combative conversation. 👍 I imagine the benefit is about community. I know that people do benefit from having community. Someone might be displease with a spouse but remain married for other benefits. 🤷‍♂️ Not even sure whether that is a good analogy.
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@Sir_KnowsALot_ This isn’t a big debate, but you’ve repeatedly misrepresented my position. Right?
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@karaalsup23 I,atone finding out the hard way, you chose the wrong God. See, you only imagine you see a God working right now, and you cannot demonstrate it in reality. Yes, all the “exposing” happens for natural reasons, just like everything else. Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real. Go ahead. Make predictions of what will happen. And explain why God allowed abuse in the church to happen for so long, and why it continues to happen within churches. Suggesting “you will find out one day” means you do t have evidence today, and that your claim is unfalsifiable….which means there is no reason to conclude your claims are true. Besides, worshipping an “all knowing, all powerful, all loving” God who can’t think of a better way to manage his anger than to drown everyone, including pregnant women and babies…seems problematic. Wouldn’t you agree?
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@MichaelLamming That is pedantic and doesn’t change the fact that magic isn’t real,
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@Chicken_nuggets-yes Do we have any of the original manuscripts? No. Do we know who the authors were? No. Are there any first hand claims made within the gospels claiming to have witnessed a resurrected Jesus? No. The most famous are the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. All but one of these are believed to have been written within 50–70 years of the death of Jesus, with the Gospel of Mark believed to be the earliest, and the last the Gospel of John. The oldest surviving record written by an early Christian is a short letter by St Paul: the First Epistle to the Thessalonians, which appeared about 25 years after the death of Jesus. And of course, Paul never met Jesus when he was alive. How long after his death do you think they were written?9
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@Alexanderisgreat How could you ever demonstrate that to be the case, that he didn’t exist? And how could the existence of a mundane human be more important than the magic aspect?
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@artofwarlegions5262 That is an irrational position to hold. Either there is currently evidence or you have nothing to go on. So when you say one day we will meet him, you’re just making things up specifically because you don’t have evidence which is convincing. And faith is just self deception, because again, if you had evidence, you wouldn’t need faith.
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@artofwarlegions5262 The same would apply to people who claim to know any God, whether it is Yahweh, or Vishnu, or Allah, or Odin. I hope you understand this one day too. You imagine a God exists, but cannot demonstrate it does. If you were honest, you’d be able to admit this.
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@artofwarlegions5262 Well, there you have it. An honest answer. You believe so,etching you admit cannot be demonstrated to exist. And that is made up. That is an example of imaginary, or made up. The same applies for every variation of every god or God. I don’t argue with people who get the facts straight. I do enjoy honest conversation though. Do you like to argue about the existence things you know can’t demonstrate actually exist? Why?
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@artofwarlegions5262 Why I engage isn’t relevant as to whether claims for a God are true. Part of the reason I engage is based on such claims as “the morals of Christianity are good and graceful”. Which is perplexing, as the Bible alleges God made slavery (owning another person as property) permissible by his own laws. He also drowned babies, allegedly. An all knowing, all powerful, all loving God couldn’t think of a better way to manage his own anger over his own failures. My moral standard is superior to that, and I bet yours is too. Unless you’re going to try to defend owning people as property as moral, good and graceful. Another problem with your argument is shifting the burden of proof. When is your standard ever used, such as…you can’t prove Big Foot, unicorns, and leprechauns don’t exist…therefore it is reasonable to assume they do.
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@artofwarlegions5262 Are you aware the less religious and more secular societies are, the more moral they become? The data shows this to be true.
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@artofwarlegions5262 If you don’t want to engage, I understand. But absolutely there is a parallel between God and every other imaginary being, as they cannot be demonstrated to exist in reality.
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@artofwarlegions5262 I’ll do what I can to provide the data. Do you have data for your position?
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@artofwarlegions5262 The correlation between secularism and higher levels of happiness, as evident in countries like Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Sweden, Norway, Israel, and New Zealand, is a complex interplay of several key factors. These nations consistently rank high on the United Nations' Happiness Index, and their secular nature plays a pivotal role in this phenomenon. Secular countries tend to prioritize individual liberties and freedom of thought, fostering a sense of autonomy and self-determination among their citizens. This emphasis on personal agency contributes to overall life satisfaction. On nearly every sociological measure of well-being, you’re most likely to find the more secular states with the lowest levels of faith in God and the lowest rates of church attendance faring the best and the most religious states with the highest levels of faith in God and rates of church attendance faring the worst.
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@artofwarlegions5262 See Pew Research Center, The Global God Divide for info and data.
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@Alexanderisgreat How do you calculate the probability of a mundane human not existing? That happens quite regularly, even during that era. During those times, apocalyptic preachers were very common.
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@fbiagent6294 I’m sure you meant alleged prophets. 👍. They say beware of false prophets, yet all prophets are false prophets.
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@SukhdevSingh-ge5rj Sure, but why? Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real.
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@robonthecob6920 You’re confusing the mundane human rabbi with the mythical, magical god being. Yes, a historical mundane human may very well have existed. But “Christ” is imaginary, fictional, mythical. There may be solid evidence for the mundane, there is no evidence for the supernatural. Are you aware, the gospels don’t even contain any first hand claims to witnessing a resurrected Jesus? The most you get is hearsay, anonymous sources, no original manuscripts, and writings decades after the alleged events. Anyone else notable from the time period is also rather mundane, because we know people existed. However, any supernatural claims associated with such notable people get dismissed since they’re not real.
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@robonthecob6920 That’s the point of the OP. Sure, a mundane rabbi may have existed, Now, prove magic is real.
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@ How do you determine any probability based on something with zero evidence?
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@ All prophets are false prophets. 🤷‍♂️
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@ That isn’t what I believe. So, you start with a fat lie. Sorry that you have so little understanding of science. Nothing in science suggests something came from nothing. But you pretend to know what other people believe? Lol.
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@ The consensus within science is the there was most likely a historical Jesus. However, this would not mean a supernatural Jesus. So it would depend on which Jesus you mean, right?
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@ lol, there is no historical record of his disciples died for their beliefs. 🤷‍♂️ That is just make believe.
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@ Uh…Gravity is a fundamental force of nature that attracts objects with mass towards each other. 🤷‍♂️ Curious….Would you argue about the effects of gravity on top of a twelve story building? Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real. The same applies to supernatural whatevers.
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@ Yours is imaginary. Mine is what the consensus of science supports based on evidence. No offense meant.
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@ I stand by the consensus of experts in the field. And you rely entirely on your imagination. 🤷‍♂️
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@ You must have me confused with someone else. Rely on the consensus of science, and the evidence. No religion is about facts of any kind. In fact, no God can ever be demonstrated to exist in reality. Same as leprechauns. 🤷‍♂️ The morons are the ones who don’t realize this.
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@littlegiantj8761 Ever heard of religious neutrality? Are you even aware Gods are fiction?
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Didn’t Jesus make slavery permissible and drown babies during the flood? Oh no, that wasn’t Jesus. That was the Father side of his personality.
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@Murcans-worship-felons Imaginary things cannot be demonstrated to exist in reality. However, things that are real can. Regardless of your opinion or beliefs.
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@Murcans-worship-felons If that were true, you’d never be able to have a pizza delivered to your house, or go to and from work. But you can.
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@Murcans-worship-felons Even if you dislike pizza, could one be delivered successfully?
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@Murcans-worship-felons Your best argument for the existence of a god is that you deny reality. Good job.
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@Murcans-worship-felons I understand a little more about physics than that. Quantum physics doesn’t make that assertion. You’re just misrepresenting nothing. We have no examples nothing to test.
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@wingerding Are you forgetting that God and Jesus are part of the same being, according to the book? Are you unfamiliar with Exodus? Leviticus? Deuteronomy? How about: slaves, obey your earthly masters with all fear. Not only the kind, but the cruel.
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@wingerding I am curious what is meant be “religious science” though.
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@wingerding I’ve studied it longer than you have. In fact, I have attended Seminary. And I’m using the Christian Bible as a source, and you’re denying what is actually written in the book. So whichever university you attended, perhaps you can get a refund? You’re arguing like a believer, not a scholar. And you lie like one too. Where does original sin come from? And oh, they (the OT and NT) have nothing to do with each other “except for” which means they are not as independent as you’re lying.
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@wingerding Perhaps, if that was the limits of what I’ve studied. And if I were actually indoctrinated. It isn’t and I wasn’t. I notice you’re not bothering to address any of the points I’ve made, though. Your own argument works against you anyway. You’re going to dismiss the OT, except for where you require it, like the prophecies you mentioned. You dismiss original sin, and where Jesus said he was not here to change the laws, but enforce them. Despite your alleged extensive studies in various religions, do you hold to Christianity as true?
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@wingerding I’m not asserting I studied in Seminary for seven years. I’m saying my studies included more than seven years. For the record, I’m educated enough to know that supernatural claims have never been demonstrated to be true, so any claims for miracles hold to the same level as claims for unicorns and leprechauns. Now I wonder whether your assertions of indoctrination are simply projection.
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@LoraxChannel That’s a bold accusation. It may be the case that I know more about Christianity than you do. It may be that I have forgotten more about Christianity than you ever knew. What you failed to do is make a “valid” argument, or offer any demonstration that my position is incorrect. I see you’ve posted a lot of unsubstantiated and false claims within the last few minutes. It’s funny that you assert things like anti- slavery and freedom are based on the concept of a god that created all men equal. However none of that is part of Christianity. Those concepts were not based on any god concept you would accept. Quite the contrary, considering the Bible says God made slavery permissible by his own laws. Additionally, some slaves (Hebrew males) would be released after six years, while non-Hebrews, and so,en would be owned for life. This is not equality. And it isn’t freedom. It seems as if….you don’t really know anything at all about Christianity or the Bible.
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@LoraxChannel For certain, Jesus’ life is the most exaggerated story of all time. Just because it is popular doesn’t mean it is true.
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@LoraxChannel We have evidence for Caesar’s existence, but there are claims Caesar was the son of God. That doesn’t make it true, does it? Caesar was allegedly a god. Is that true too? See, what you’re gong to fail to do is demonstrate any supernatural claim is true. Do you know why? Because they aren’t true.
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@LoraxChannel The Jesus you believe in, a divine Jesus is not a real historical person. That’s the difference. A mundane human existing, sure…it happens all the time. So his claims to divinity are absolutely relevant. Just as Caesar was another non-divine being. As for faith, it doesn’t matter what you claim most atheists worry about or whether they can argue about faith. I certainly can. Faith can be defined different ways, but in this context, faith is the active practice of self deception. That being the case, I’d argue that nobody should engage in actively deceiving themselves intentionally. To me, a life lived in denial and delusion, or practicing self deception, and pretending they have answers they don’t have, is a serious waste. You’re also making a false assertion or accusation that perhaps those that do not accept supernatural claims have never attempted inquiry. The reality is, you believe things you can never demonstrate to be true. That is necessarily due to a lack of inquiry. You can do better.
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@ Don’t worry. All Gods are imaginary.
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@ Islam exists. Right? Buddhism exists, right? Mormonism exists, right? Your line of evidence is flawed.
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@ready1fire1aim1 You have no understanding of science. No matter what you think about science, if you’re making supernatural assertions, you’re just dishonest.
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