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Whatever you think God does has the same explanatory power as magic.
Consider, if a God existed, he could have prevented the fall all together, right? But you’re saying God preferred for the man to suffer, right?
And what of all the people God allows to fall, or wills to fall, who don’t survive?
So when you sayGod works through other people, that is like saying $5 plus a God will get you a cup of coffee. When really all you need is the $5.
In this case, God didn’t prevent the fall, and good people did what good people do. No God required. No God demonstrated.
Remember, if you’re going to count the hits, you need to count the misses.
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The Bible makes claims of eyewitness testimonies. Claims are not evidence. There are NO first hand claims from any eye witnesses. Only hearsay.
When someone reports that they were told by another person that 500 people witnessed a resurrected Jesus, it isn’t evidence it is hearsay.
If beating up a toddler is immoral, then it most certainly,would be immoral to drown babies in a flood.
God doesn’t exist, so morality can’t come from a God. And you’ve never considered the Euthyphro dilemma?
And nobody is claiming something came from nothing, except for believers…because God doesn’t exist. So when you say anything came from God,you’re saying something from nothing. The Big Bang doesn’t suggest something came from nothing. All,you’re doing here is revealing you’re ignorant of science. A singularity isn’t nothing. Maybe read some other books and get a clue.
If you’re gong to pray, ask God to tell you what would convince me that God exists. He should know, right? When he fails to provide a correct answer, maybe you will realize imaginary beings aren’t all knowing.
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@ww-pw6di
No, my initial response was specifically addressing the OP, which did not mention in *increase*. It only mentioned people dying suddenly.
Go see for yourself.
Now, you should offer an acknowledgment, retraction, and apology.
Besides, if I wanted to make such an argument - and I am not - an upward trend on such cases would indeed suggest an increase before another increase.
So, either way…you’re wrong. Now, I get it…the way you feel,when you’re right is exactly the same way you feel when you’re wrong and don’t know it. Right up until the time you know it. Then, you feel like you do now…desperate denialism. Then, perhaps later, you come to terms.
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@zackdelarosa14
Yeah, I know the stories. I don’t need you to tell me what the Bible says, or repeat what I learned in Seminary.
If God sends people to Hell, God is immoral and unjust.
The flood was to get a clean state, so God drowned babies.
If drowning babies is immoral, God is immoral.
Slavery is immoral. If God made it permissible by his own laws, God is immoral.
Yes, slavery still happens today. In America, many people diced fighting a civil war to end slavery.
Get it? You God could have said “don’t own people as property”. He didn’t do that.
According to doctrine, he made it lawful to own people as property. And to beat the people.
Humanity may be cruel, but humanity was made in the image of your God.
Immoral.
Good thing it’s all fiction, eh? You and I can recognize owning people as property and beating them is immoral. And we can be better than that.
But you choose to worship this immoral and fictional thug.
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