Comments by "Moon Shoes" (@moonshoes11) on "SCOTUS to hear case of high school coach suspended for praying on football field l GMA" video.

@whoami148 He is intentionally praying with an audience, and while acting on behalf of the State.
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It isn’t his right to do so while on school grounds, functioning on behalf of the State. In fact, it’s unconstitutional.
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@ryanstanley7158 He is if he is employed by the state, acting in capacity for the state, as leadership for students, and on school grounds. But it gets worse for you. Compare the First Commandment with the First Amendment. The commandment restricts American freedom guaranteed by the first amendment. Which makes Christianity fundamentally unAmerican.
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@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Kindly, ask your god or the Holy Spirit what would convince me that either exists. Let me know.
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@ryanstanley7158 While on school grounds, at a school event, with students participating.
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Let’s compare the first commandment with the first amendment. One denies religious freedom, while the other guarantees it.
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@hockemeyer1 The authors of the gospels are anonymous. There are no contemporary writings of Jesus outside of the Bible.
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@ryanstanley7158 Those values can’t be one in the same if one allows for religious freedom and the other command against it. And you have the freedom to put your religion first..for you. But you don’t have a right to put it first over anyone else’s rights. And, you worship the gods of slavery.
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@ryanstanley7158 If you refer to him as coach, he is in fact respecting the state.
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@ryanstanley7158 Faith just means believing whatever you like, without evidence to warrant the belief. “all expressions of faith are reconciled under Ryan’s delusions”?
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School grounds are not the place for you to exercise your religion.
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They don’t have a right to promote religion while working as a representative of the State. He is in fact violating the Constitution.
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@seth7764 And no, he doesn’t have a right to pray to Satan or your god of slavery…. On school grounds, during a school event, involving students.
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@seth7764 Perhaps introduce yourself to Andrew L. Seidel. Author of The Founding Myth.
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@britthaney3533 No, he isn’t…not if he is acting as a representative of the state, which he is.
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What if it were a Satanic prayer?
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@seth7764 Actually, it has already been established it does indeed violate the constitution. And no, this isn’t a of having the right to pray at work. This is about a representative of the State promoting his religion at school. Leading a prayer while other students join is a violation. Never mind that Christianity is fundamentally unAmerican anyway. Never I’d. He is praying to the god of slavery and genocide. Would you feel,different if it were a Satanic prayer?
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@seth7764 To rehash…. He did it in front of and along with students, on school property, while acting on behalf of the state. You’re just wrong. My kid played high school football and choose not to participate in the unconstitutional coach lead prayer circles, and was penalized for it.
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@seth7764 There is implied pressure, which is why it isn’t allowed. I don’t care what you claim or pretend what your job is. Sweeping and mopping the floors of a courthouse doesn’t make you qualified. Especially because this issue has been addressed before, repeatedly, and you’re wrong.
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@ryanstanley7158 Stop pretending like you’re not praying to the god of slavery.
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@cchemmes-seeseeart3948 Nobody is being castrated, child. But he should be fired if he can’t keep his Jesus in his pants.
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@hockemeyer1 Um, the gospels themselves say the authors are anonymous. Remember, the Bible makes claims that need to be substantiated. Without other contemporary writings, isn’t fiction written by zealots a better explanation than magic? It’s not an authority on reality.
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@hockemeyer1 By the way, I’ve attended Seminary. It’s likely that I’ve spent more time with scriptures than you assume. Considering you aren’t aware of the anonymity issue.
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@hockemeyer1 Nice rant. All that, and you’re not aware the authors of the gospels are anonymous? And I have still spent more time than you assume. Paul want there when Jesus allegedly resurrected. He’s the only one who claims first hand to have witnessed seeing a resurrected Jesus. Which was in a vision. You should have spent more time studying science.
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@hockemeyer1 You don’t care for the truth. The truth is what comports with reality. The reality is, the authors of the gospels are indeed anonymous. Denying that means you’re willing to believe what is false, despite the evidence. You’re not allowed to be honest with yourself for threat of burning in hell. Now, you could ask you god what would convince me he exists. Then we will know for sure. But the gospels are anonymous, none of the four your mentioned every expressly stated they had seen a resurrected Jesus. Only Paul made such a claim, and that was in a vision.
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@hockemeyer1 He never failed to answer a single prayer? Good. Pray that he reveals to you what would convince me he exists. Let’s see what happens to your claim.
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@avenue8822 I can speculate, if that is what you’re asking. Perhaps he is trying to get away with something he already knows he shouldn’t be doing. Perhaps he has more important things to do before the game.
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@avenue8822 He claims it was a private, personal prayer. But did it intentionally in full display of students on the 50 yard line. So he is a dishonest believer.
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@avenue8822 He did in a place where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, and he invited a coach from another team to join. It doesn’t matter whether he made it mandatory. It’s still coercive intentionally doing it in the middle of the field where everyone would see. This isn’t about self absorbed anti-faith people. This is about our Constitutional rights and freedom of religion. There are other court cases too. This is about Christian Nationalism disregarding the rights of anyone that doesn’t play along with their delusions.
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@avenue8822 What if he was praying to Satan and players joined him?
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@avenue8822 Grasping at straws? There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the center of a playing field during a school event where students are present. I am well versed in scripture. More so than you, most likely. This is the part of the argument where you just failed completely. If doesn’t matter what the scriptures say about public prayer. Public prayer isn’t the issue, nor are the scriptures relevant at any level. The Bible makes slavery permissible by the Law of God, according to the doctrine. Are you going to argue for slavery now, Believer? Public prayer is widely accepted all over the world? So are theocracies. But America is a secular nation with secular laws. The fact that you mention scripture instead of our Constitution tells me you’re as unAmerican as Christianity itself. Praying in public isn’t the issue. This is a State/school event on State property by a State employee. He can pray on his own time, publicly, away from school events where he cannot coerce students. If this want about coercing people, he wouldn’t be making a public display out of it. Religion poisons everything.
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@avenue8822 Weird that you still don’t understand, after it was explained to you… This isn’t about sidewalks, roadsides, stadiums, or soccer games. This is about separation of government and religion. If coach want to become a priest, pastor, preacher, or whatever else….he has the freedom to do so. Just not in schools. Common sense is a low standard. I’m referring to law, not common sense. Previous courts cases have already decided. What you’re looking forward to is more corruption, and violation of our Constitution. Here is a little test for you…. Our First Amendment guarantees religious freedom, correct? We can worship as we choose, we have the right to do so, would you agree? If myself,or anyone else said you’re not allowed to freely worship, but you must worship according to our beliefs, not yours… Would that be unconstitutional? Would that go against fundamental American freedom?
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@avenue8822 And yes, if he were leading Islamic prayer, the legal objection would be the same. I’d imagine you’d be more willing to object since it isn’t your brand on superstition.
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Sure, you can make an argument that the Bible,calls,for,public prayer. But the Bible says otherwise. Matthew 6:5-15 5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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@avenue8822 Please don’t be religious my friend. I’m a certain you don’t understand the context of the Bible or the Constitution. Christianity is insulting, so please stop being a part of it.
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@avenue8822 Try to expand your limited perspective. https://youtu.be/ZpW9IdCGOOg And remember… Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real.
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Psalm 137:9 Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock This is your god?
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@avenue8822 I can consider different sides to an argument. You’re just mad because you’re wrong and I pointed it out. You didn’t bother to acknowledge or address any points. And crying about context of a book that clearly can be used to determine different context from the same text, by various groups of believers simply,isn’t a valid argument. Hell, Christianity got the context of Judaism wrong…right? So, when your God commands to worship no other gods…. It goes against the First Amendment…making Christianity fundamentally unAmerican.
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@avenue8822 No, don’t pretend your respect me, then try to lecture me on things I clearly know better than you.
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@avenue8822 You still don’t get it. This is willful desperate ignorance on your part. It doesn’t matter if public schools are public property. It is still state property, for a state function, with state employees. But it does show the point i made earlier… There is no expectation of privacy. The center of a field of play, during a school event, isn’t private. Your opinion is that it is OK, so long as it’s your god and your flavor of religion. Remember that. And yes, it is coercive even if coercion isn’t intended. Hey coach, do I get more playing time if you recognize I worship like you do? School isn’t a place of worship. And no, it isn’t whether a student “has no choice”. Coercion can come with a choice. Pray with me and I will like you better. Refuse to join me, and maybe you won’t have the same opportunities on the field.
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@avenue8822 But please…I want to know why you worship the god of slavery, genocide, and smashing babies.
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@avenue8822 Seriously… Take a few minutes to get your head some fresh air. https://youtu.be/ZpW9IdCGOOg
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@britthaney3533 Sober up. Lay off the koolaid. What if it were a Satanic prayer?
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@davyjones922 The First Amendment has two clauses that make up the separation of church and state. The establishment clause, and the free exercise clause. One prevents the state from interfering with religion, the other prevents religion from interfering with the state. I’m clearly already better educated on this than you are. Also, your world,view includes the existence of magic…so…”educate yourself”. Real magic is fake. Fake magic is real.
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@Tugedhel If students joined a state employee, on state grounds, during a state event, the coach was properly terminated. Fighting violations of constitutional rights is very important. But now you’re on record for disregarding every solider who ever died fighting for our rights. Religion poisons everything. You’re just another example of it. Should a group of haters come after my basic rights? Child…Christian Nationalism already is coming after my basic rights. This coach, is just another example.
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Religion poisons everything.
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You’re wrong.
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The First Commandment restricts religious freedom. The First Amendment guarantees it. And that makes Christianity fundamentally unAmerican.
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5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
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