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@shawnalLovesJesus Apparently, excoriation doesn’t require psych help or meds if you’re cured of it without them. You’re not fine if you’re delusional enough to think you’re a prophet. As for your claims about healing by god, might I recommend you look up,a song by Tim Minchin, called Thank You God. It’s about a guy named Same, whose mother had cataracts that were healed by a miracle.
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Your god doesn’t exist. Try an argument based in reality.
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@moniquemonet6476 Psalm 137:9. Care to post it?
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 I can demonstrate that I exist. No god can demonstrate it exists. You can’t demonstrate any god exists. Think about it… Would a Muslim, Mormon, or Hindu be able to use your argument too? The answer is yes. Which means it shows nothing. If you didn’t exist, your delusions wouldn’t exist. So, you have it backwards.
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@sablechicken No, no…try Psalm 137:9.
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 The argument you’re making is very common rhetoric which isn’t evidence for a god. Your first argument is partially correct but your conclusion is invalid. A god would require a mind or consciousness, would you agree? This is what we don’t have evidence for, any such consciousness being the cause. We do have evidence of quantum fields, then laws of physics, then chemistry, then biology, then physical brains and consciousness. What we don’t have evidence for is any sort of consciousness resulting from anything other than a physical brain. If you’re claiming a god is simply a brute fact, why wouldn’t quantum fields, which don’t require consciousness also, work as a brute fact? It satisfies your argument without the fallacious reasoning of requiring a consciousness. Why would it necessarily have to be a being, or a thinking agent?
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 Can you demonstrate a god exists? If so, how? Can your god demonstrate it exists? If so, why doesn’t it? If you asked your god “God, what would convince Moon Shoes of your existence” could it ever provide a correct answer that you could pass along to me?
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 I am not convinced any god exists, so of course I don’t think any God is my personal slave. However, that doesn’t address any of my questions and seems quite aggressive of a response for asking.
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 First of all, I’m probably more moral than you. I probably have a better understanding of morality than you do. You want to assume I am some less moral, but you’d be wrong. You want to assume I am lazy, but I am better educated on this subject than you, and have put in more effort than you. Im not demanding any God do anything at all. See this is an example of your being dishonest. Why would a god revealing himself produce a genuine conversion and deep love? Well, evidence would convince me it exists. That’s a start. I can’t love something that doesn’t exist, the way you do. You’re so ready to jump in with poor apologetics, you didn’t even bother to ask any questions on whether I did seek him with all my heart. Out of the two of us, I bet I’m the only one who attended Seminary. The fact that I did shows you’re wrong about me being lazy, and shows I did, in fact, seek him out. More so than you did. So, if a God cannot or does not reveal himself, is there any reason to be convinced? If a God doesn’t want me to know it exists, then I can’t know it exists, right? If a cannot or,does not reveal itself, it may be one of a few options….it doesn’t want me to know it exists, it wants me to be convinced dishonestly for poor reasons (like you), or it simply doesn’t exist. However, your only arguments are fictional stories…written thousands of year ago…which are mythology. I’d ask,you how,many first hand accounts of a resurrected Jesus are offered in the Bible, but you wouldn’t even know the answer.
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 If that is the only conclusion you can make, you’re not thinking critically. If this ends here, it is because you’re unwilling to answer my questions because you know your beliefs will unravel. I didn’t personally insult you. You were the one who suggested I was lazy and immoral, attempting to insult me. So now, you’re being hypocritical too. Temper and arrogance? Look, you attempted to insult me, and you believe you have a personal relationship with a creator god that loves you. Isn’t that arrogant? I’m not looking for any insincere wishes of blessing. I’m more interested in honest discussion. You’re either willing to participate, or,you’re not. Clearly, you’re not. That’s OK. You can go on believing whatever you like. But at least consider, regarding morality…you worship the god of slavery and genocide, and I find both slavery and genocide to be immoral. I care more about the well being of people than either you or your god. If you can’t bother to critically think,through the questions I offered….you’re sad and untrue.
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@rosiepierre9905 If you think so, could you respond to the questions I posed?
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@arnoeeuwigheid4499 By the way, next time try critiquing the position or the argument, not the person. And try being a more moral person.
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@shawnalLovesJesus Thank you, Shawna, for showing how my point of view has been so flawed I assumed there was no God at all, but now I see that's cynical It's simply that his interests aren't particularly broad He's largely undiverted by the starving masses Or the inequality between the various classes He gives out strictly limited passes Redeemable for surgery, or two-for-one glasses I feel so shocking for historically mocking Now, your interests are clearly confined to the ocular I bet given the chance, you'd eschew the divine And start a little business selling contacts on-line Holy cow man, what are the odds That of history's endless parade of gods That the god you just happened to be taught to believe in Is the actual one and he digs on healing But not the AIDS-ridden African nations Nor the victims of the plague, nor the flood-addled Asians But healthy, privately-insured Americans With common and curable lens degeneration? This story of Shawna’s has but a single explanation A surgical God, who digs on magic operations No, it couldn't be mistaken attribution of causation Born of a coincidental temporal correlation Exacerbated by a general lack of education Vis-a-vis physics in Shawna’s parish congregation
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@shawnalLovesJesus You can’t lie to me and expect me to believe you. You literally posted a claim that you were a prophet. Since you can’t demonstrate any god exists beyond your own imagination, asserting that it was this god (who lives in your head) called you a prophet, it means that yes…you called yourself a prophet. So no, there is no,reason to believe you and every reason to call you out for lying to me and lying to yourself. And no, I don’t have to look up excoriation to know what confirmation bias looks like. If you were a Muslim, you’d have said Allah cured you.
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@shawnalLovesJesus Let’s put your claims to the test. Shall we? I am not convinced your god exists. However, I will concede that if your gods exists, it would certainly know what it will take to convince me that he exists. So here is the challenge: Ask him what it is that would convince me he exists, then just let me know. What you tell me he said is correct…I will certainly be convinced. If not, then there is no reason to believe you. Now, go,ahead and tell me why this won’t work. One option it won’t work is that your god is imaginary.
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@Carlito4629 Do you understand what a null position is? Which god would you like demonstrated doesn’t exist? And why would anyone need to demonstrate something doesn’t exist, when you can’t demonstrate that it does? See, with your argument of “demonstrate it doesn’t exist” you’re going to run into problems. Based on that argument, you must necessarily conclude Big Foot exists, unicorns exist, Aliens exist and probe you every night, Allah exists, Vishnu exists, Zeus, Thor, Odin all exist. Do you recognize the problem? Now, if you’re going to suggest a god with the tru-omni properties exists, we can use logic to show those properties can’t exist together. Thanks for asking.
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@Carlito4629 Did you totally ignore my last comment? This is about the burden of proof and the null hypothesis. First, I didn’t claim no gods exist. My claim was that belief in a god isn’t warranted. The burden of proof lies with the person claiming a god exists. Otherwise, the null position is the correct position. However, you’re now saying the claim such as no god exists is as valid as a gods do exist, you’re logically inconsistent, and not valid at all. Apparently, you don’t understand logic.
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@Drakemiser The earth and sky are evidence of Thor earth and sky. Not a “creator”. In order to consider the earth a creation, you’d have to demonstrate a creator. Otherwise,your reasoning is circular, and fallacious.
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@limakay9266 How is it a god could be real,for. You, if it does t exist in reality? You’re just admitting your god is imaginary…a delusion…and you’re not willing to face it. Quotes don’t matter. They offer nothing more than an opinion, and it isn’t even your opinion. Also, you’re going to have as difficult a time demonstrating souls exist and you are demonstrating any god exists. Said aside the cynicism, and demonstrate your God exists. Or better yet, ask your God what it would take to convince me it exists, then let me know. If it exists, it should be able to answer that. Let me know, then we will both be convinced. But you already know deep down this can’t happen. To prove you’re wrong even further…I don’t blame or hate your imaginary friend. I don’t believe your friend exists. So I don’t blame or hate it. So you can’t even cope with reality, and have no argument. If you’re going to claim most suffering is caused by people, you’re going to need to cite sources. And you can’t. Natural disasters cause an awful lot of suffering. I don’t need and wouldn’t accept your advice on ways to look at things when you’ve been indoctrinated into a cult and know nothing about science or medicine.
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@limakay9266 Go ahead and demonstrate your God exists in reality, outside of your imagination.
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