Comments by "Moon Shoes" (@moonshoes11) on "Texas valedictorian ditches pre-approved speech to slam abortion law" video.

@kevinneedham9643 That isn’t what you’re doing though. You’re just attempting to muddy the water because you don’t have a good understanding of either discussions. You incredulity and bias lead you to fallacious conclusions.
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@kevinneedham9643 Oh look, another believer who doesn’t appreciate or require evidence.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 It’s not about a heartbeat, and it’s not about “life” as you imagine it. It’s about a person’s right to their own person. It’s always about consent.
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End Christian Nationalism. Build a Wall between Government and Religion.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual It would always be immoral to deny a person the right to their own body, or to force them to use their body as an incubator without their consent. You don’t have a moral high ground, you’re just convinced you do.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual It sounds like you’re making a decision about her body which is none of your business.
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@kevinneedham9643 Your going to decide what someone else can or should do with their own person? Fine. You’re now obligated to donate one of your kidneys, and half your liver. Plus, you must also donate blood every month for the rest of your life. Also, you’re required to pay for all of this one your own. When you’ve done this, we can continue the discussion perhaps.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 No, it’s not less of a life. It’s the fact that the woman must consent to becoming and remaining pregnant. That’s it. If she doesn’t consent, then that ”life” doesn’t have rights to use another person’s body without consent. You get to choose for you, you don’t get to choose for others.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual You did suggest there is a moral argument here, right? You assume your position is the moral one, and you’re wrong. She is indeed being imposed a circumstance by preventing her healthcare. I would consider her a victim if she had an STD and it was decided she could not receive treatment. You disregard the value of autonomy with your arguments. This demonstration negates your suggesting otherwise.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual Siamese twins are not a pregnancy. The body is hers and hers alone. By your own argument, the child is a different person. A clump of cells has no autonomy, no consciousness, no ability to consent one way or the other.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual The real inhumanity is that you feel you have privilege to force others to your beliefs, even when your beliefs are demonstrably false. You want to discuss empathy? Give up all of your rights to your own body, and we can continue the discussion.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual It’s not a baby, nor is it an extreme to call it what it is. While a coma patient cannot consent, it isn’t dependent on another person. Say the coma patient needed to be connected to your body to survive….can we force you to do so? This is where your analogy fails.
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@AlexanderZapataIndividual You falsely referring to it as a baby shows that you cannot even have an honest dialog. So far, you have nothing. You simply don’t have any legitimacy to your claims to rob someone of their autonomy. You can choose what happens to your body when you become pregnant. That’s as far as your beliefs in magic go.
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@kevinneedham9643 My soul, eh? Well, I don’t base my world view on magic and make believe. And you don’t have a say in what another person does with their body. By the way, I’m not your “son”. I’m likely older, and demonstrably wiser. I also don’t worship the god of slavery, so I have a moral high ground.
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@kevinneedham9643 Well, yeah. Solids don’t exist. You’re soulless as well, as far as we know. As far as you can demonstrate. See, just because you believe in a magic sky daddy that doesn’t make your position moral. After all, you literally worship the god of slavery, the god of genocide. Also, it’s not murder and those aren’t babies. But you believe in magic, so I wouldn’t expect you to be s,art enough to sort that out. Got any other failed arguments or fallacious claims?
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@kevinneedham9643 By the way, Kevin….we know existence exists. You don’t get to call existence a “creation” when you have zero evidence of a “creator”. That’s all just make-believe. I mean, you’re convinced….without evidence. So, either get your Nobel prize for demonstrating a god exists, or admit you can’t.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 So, Thanos snapped away half of known life, right? Those that got snapped away did not suffer, right? Now consider the Noah story. Your god drowned everyone. Innocent children, innocent animals. All made to suffer and drown. You worship an imaginary god that does such things. The same god that made slavery permissible by law. All I’m advocating for is autonomy. So, I would never play your “God”, as I am considerably more moral. Didn’t your god sacrifice his own son/ self to himself, in order to convince himself to forgive his own creation for being exactly how he made them? Come on, man…. You have no moral ground in the discussion. Now, if you want to worship the god of slavery and genocide, you’re free to do so, And you’re not required to have an abortion either.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 No, I never agreed to murder. It isn’t murder by definition. Why is it you’re not smart enough to grasp the difference? This is strictly about consent. Why is it you think you can determine what another person does with their own body. You’re such an awful believer, you refuse reality in order to preserve your twisted and immoral view of reality.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 Consenting to have sex is not the same as consenting to become pregnant. Becoming pregnant is not consenting to remaining pregnant. Why do you feel you have the right to choose for another person what they can or cannot do with their own body? Who taught you that? Your religion?
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 Oh, and you believe in a god that we both know you can never demonstrate actually exists. That is consistent with a reality in. Which a god does not exist. Now, do you believe without sufficient evidence? Of course. You were indoctrinated. You never considered Islam, or Hinduism. You were indoctrinated into believing, but never bother to realize the story is make- believe, science fiction, based on nothing more than hearsay. Care to explain why you worship the god of slavery?
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@kevinneedham9643 Demonstrate that anything in existence is the result of your god. Demonstrate your god exist. Most of everything we witness outside of human society is a result of natural processes and can be demonstrated to be so, going back as far as the Big Bang. We cannot investigate the cause of the Big Bang. But you’ll suggest your sky daddy caused it, and you will,do,so,with absolute incredulity, and exactly zero evidence. Admit it. Admit you don’t actually have evidence for your beliefs.
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@kevinneedham9643 You and I are both examples of things that resulted from natural processes. And we can witness children being born every day, thorough natural processes. No magic required. I don’t have to demonstrate that natural processes are not the result of your sky daddy when you can’t offer evidence they are, or that daddy even exists. Now, I know you’re trying to be rude. But if you’re even slightly honest, you’ll need to square this reality. Good luck.
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@mercy-constanceaturu7030 By the way, you don’t even know who wrote your gospels. Square it.
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