Comments by "Moon Shoes" (@moonshoes11) on "This is what it means to be a 'White Christian nationalist'" video.

@amandabotha1431 Weird how our First Amendment guarantees freedom of religion, While the First Commandment opposes it. Which makes Christianity opposed to American freedom. I’d also be willing to challenge your confidence in the belief that your God exists. It seems the confidence you have in that belief isn’t warranted by evidence.
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@amandabotha1431 I’d also like to address that according to doctrine, the God of the Bible made slavery permissible by law… And, during Noah’s flood, God allegedly drown pregnant women and babies.
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@grantsmythe8625 Gnostic/agnostic refer to claims of knowledge. Agnostic means you don’t know whether or not a god exists. Theism/atheism refer to beliefs. Whether one believes a god exists. And atheist is t convinced a god exists. It isn’t necessarily an assertion no gods exist, nor it is a position claiming knowledge (gnosis) that no,gods exist. It is not mutually exclusive to be an agnostic atheist. But believers do hold a burden of proof that cannot ever seem to meet.
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@Angel-tw3ko I’ll cheerfully be mocking gods pretty much every day. It’s fun, once you get the hang of it.
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@godswarrior7779 What’s up…does he have the wrong number? Would you be willing to ask Jesus what would convince me me he exists, then let me know?
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I think our First Amendment is far more important than believing in magic.
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@JohnJakeWilliam Way to announce that you don’t understand anything about science. 👍
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And the Lord said unto Luke; Luke you have not yet realized your importance. Together, we can destroy the Emperor and rule the galaxy as father and son!
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Never trust either.
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@Former_Pastor Would be better if they were honest too.
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@fefe-san.878 Kneeling during the anthem was protest, not prayer. But it’s good you recognize religion is bad.
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@tomceman4451 Tom, questions… How many people in the Bible make a first hand claim to witnessing a resurrected Jesus? Who were the authors of the gospels?
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@tomceman4451 Tom, the names you provided were associated with the gospels as part of tradition, but the actual authors are anonymous. 1 Corinthians does not answer the question I asked. Read the question again. How many people within the Bible make a first hand claim to witnessing a resurrected Jesus? There is only one person within the Bible that make a first hand claim of seeing a resurrected Jesus. Only one. Claiming 500 people witnessed a resurrected Jesus doesn’t qualify as a first hand account. You don’t know who the 500 were, if or what they witnessed, where they lived, etc. You have no means of investigating the claim there were 500…and those aren’t first hand claims. Understanding the difference is useful in determining whether you’re discussing facts or hearsay. The Bible makes claims based strictly on hearsay. Does this help?
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@GalactusOG Prove it.
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@AriessunvirgomoonlightLibraise Not if the god doesn’t exist, right?
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@JohnJakeWilliam Knowledge is a justified true belief. We both know you cannot substantiate your claims to knowledge. Is there reason to believe a human that died roughly two thousand years ago is a capable of knowing me, or loving me? All of our knowledge, all of our evidence, says people don’t live that long. Real magic is still fake. Fake magic is still real. And slavery isn’t very loving. Nope, Not loving at all.
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@crewded8630 Cool. Ask the Father what would convince me he exists. Then, let me know.
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@crewded8630 Your position is false. Would you be able and willing to have an honest conversation? Could you ask your god what would convince me, and let me know? Because what you posted isn’t convincing. Here is why: The challenge you proposed has been met. I’ve actually attended Seminary. I’ve spent many years, kneeling before an altar. So, since your challenge failed….would you be willing to try mine? Ask your gods what would convince. Perhaps your god exists. Perhaps he wants me to know he exists. Let’s find out.
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@crewded8630 Remember, I am not Turing away from any gods. I am simply unconvinced any gods exist. I can’t turn away from something that doesn’t exist, right?
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@crewded8630 I’m not challenging god to prove his existence. My life is perfectly fine without the need to worship an imaginary being. How can you have a firm understood of something you don’t know exists? I do understand the claims Christianity makes. What I don’t have is any reason to conclude those claims comport with realty. In fact, all evidence suggests your god doesn’t exist in reality, but only within your imagination. Yes, you will,continue in full faith….faith being the excuse people,use when they don’t have good reason. Remember, Hindus, Mormons, and Muslims all use faith too. Faith isn’t a pathway to truth. It just reinforces false beliefs. If you had evidence, you wouldn’t need faith. So, would you be willing to ask your God what would convince me? Yes or no?
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@Just Be If you can’t demonstrate a god exists, why would you think it is either?
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@Just Be Would you be willing to ask your God what would convince me he exists? Then, let me know… Could you do that for me?
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@Just Be I didn’t choose not to believe. I am not convinced the Bible comports with reality. Muslims, Mormons and Hindus depend upon faith, so faith cannot get us closer to truth. You have the free will to ask your god what would convince me, yes? Your god has the free will to answer, yes? He would know what would convince me, yes? Would you be willing to ask?
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@Just Be You’re not forcing me to receive it. I am asking. I am asking for you to ask your god what would convince me. If a god exists, the god should know what it would take. But you seem unwilling to even ask. To tell me to take it up with my gods isn’t in the gospel, right?
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@Just Be I understand, you can’t prove what you believe by faith. Faith allows you to have a higher confidence in a belief than is warranted by the evidence. Could one put their faith into Islam, Hinduism, or Mormonism? Are you choosing your beliefs, or were you convinced? Could you choose to believe Ohio floats seven miles over the rest of the country and convince yourself it is true? I doubt it. So faith isn’t really useful in determining whether the belief is true. But, whatever it is that would convince me a god exists, the god should know. Which is why I ask if you’d be willing to ask your god what would convince me, then let me know what god says. I’m not opposed to being convinced. I am just not convinced by what I’ve been presented with. And I’ve attended Seminary…so it isn’t from a lack of effort. I do thank you for your time responding politely.
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@Just Be “Not all are chosen.” Again, this goes back to the question how could we know? However, if true… This translates into: God created some people knowing that’d spend eternity in eternal torment. If this were true, is there any reason the non-chosen show worship or consider this god to be loving? Is there any reason to consider this god to be loving even for a believer? Think about this… If a man has six children, and he keeps three of them in his basement and torments them with fire.. Should the three that were not locked in the basement conclude the father was loving?
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@Just Be I have peace, thanks. But again, how can it be about faith when you could have faith in Hinduism or Mormonism? It seems to me, faith is the bridge that takes you from having rational beliefs to having irrational beliefs. I agree, you didn’t choose to believe. You were convinced. And faith raises your confidence in the belief. But like I’ve said, other religions utilize faith in the same way. So faith can’t lead you to truth. It can, however, reinforce beliefs even when they aren’t true. Yes, you’ve mentioned that perhaps some are chosen. However, that doesn’t address the questions about whether that would be something a loving god would do, or whether a god doing is so could be considered loving, or would be worthy of worship. It certainly doesn’t offer any reason to conclude the god even exists, but it does demonstrate inconsistencies. So if you were to ask your god what it would take to convince me he exists, would he know? Does he want me to be convinced? Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t. It seems like an unfalsifiable position either way.
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@Just Be Yes, the devil’s advocate. Did you know that historically, this is where the idea of Satan comes from? In early texts, there wasn’t a Devil or Satan. It was just someone who held an opposing position to a claim. Of course, that idea evolved into a living agent that represents evil, through mythology. Just as you probably think my questions are based in evil, when in truth they are not. If pursuit of truth is evil, then what is god? Sure, maybe that is my “purpose”. Or maybe, no gods exist and my purpose, to the extent I have one, isn’t dictated to me but is chosen by me. But if I was given a purpose by a god, and your god sends me to hell for serving that or purpose, could that ever be just? Moral? Loving? Would you be willing to ask your god what it would take to convince me he exists, and let me know?
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@Just Be Would you be willing to consider why you won’t address my questions?
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@urbanabrandon It’s the Christianity part that is problematic, don’t ya know.
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@amandabotha1431 You make an awful lot of claims which can’t be supported by evidence of any kind. No reason to conclude your god exists….but if he does exist…you still,worship the god of slavery and genocide. And my moral standards are higher.
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Christianity is pretty awful, itself.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg The real problem is identifying the nationalism with Christianity, when the nation was intentionally established as a Secular nation…with separation of church and state.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg Why isn’t that specifically recorded, while being a secular nation is? Why does the evidence support my position? Also, we did overcome slavery. And the Bible never did.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg That isn’t at all what I said. Weird though that you’d make that conclusion.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg If data showed it was bad, would it even matter to you? Wow, your own opinion about yourself is that you’re exceptional. Big surprise.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg You seem very confused.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg So, you’re less than exceptional?
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg So, you admit It?
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg It’s funny you consider yourself exceptional, yet it’s clear you come to conclusions without relevant data. You really have no idea my position on major corporations or establishment. An evidence based world view is superior to a bias based world view. So, yes…you’re very confused.
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg Weird you think I am arguing against racism when I haven’t mentioned race once, until now. It’s weird you think you understand my position at all, let alone better than I do. So, not only do you find yourself to be “exceptional”, you also believe yourself to be…what is it? Magic, perhaps? You can read minds and have a better understanding of the thoughts of of than they do? Come on, you’re making this too easy…”Mr. Exceptional”
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@KalebGwyn-xs4pg You don’t even know how to ask relevant questions. Ever heard of Street Epistemology?
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