Comments by "XSportSeeker" (@XSpImmaLion) on "LiDAR vs Computer Vision: Does Waymo Have A Better Strategy Than Tesla? | Random Thursday" video.

  1. I think that as always, Musk is hyperbolic and full of crap. Sorry Joe. No offense intended to people who are fans of Musk and Tesla, it's just my personal position. I do recognize that he has done wonders to advance in several fields, but much like Jobs, I just don't like the guy. We tend to put accomplishments on the spot for these kinds of geniouses, at the cost of overlooking their mistakes and their errors which sometimes are equally as big. I just cannot vouch for CEOs and figureheads that are always coming out with hyperbolic or straight false statements while hiding or ignoring lots of things along the way because it doesn't serve their purposes. Lidar might be ugly and redundant to a point, but that does not mean the technology cannot improve and cannot become as seamless and as important as computer vision is. And if there is something that I personally think will be extremely needed when it comes to autonomous cars, it's exactly redundancy. It is the exact sort of technology that needs multiple failsafe systems not to end in tragedy. It is the reason why Waymo started using it, just so people know - not because CV can't fullfill that hole, but because with an autonomous system that is lugging around people in a ton heavy metal box, it's really important to have redundancy just in case one system fails. Waymo also uses CV, they have used CV from the beginning, that's not some Tesla exclusivity. In fact, Waymo's CV is extremely advanced as shown in half a decade old TED talk from an Waymo engineer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiwVMrTLUWg Before autonomous cars even started, Google already had tons and tons of research into computer vision. It's not something new developed for autonomous driving. You can look it up, Google has tons of patents, research and projects into the tech. I know lots of people already know this, but just to point it out. Mass production will reduce costs for that Lidar, the price is currently high because it's not exactly in high adoption - it's specialized equipment. Well, at least this was true a little bit ago, because afaik, Lidar already has new better models at cheaper prices. The other factor to always consider is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_self-driving_car_fatalities Obviously, Tesla has more fatalities because it has actual cars on the road, but so far 3 fatal accidents with Autopilot on. Some people might see these as statistics or something close to civilian fatality in an autonomous car war, but for me it's just unacceptable. Waymo's more careful approach with closed test areas and limited runs with engineers on the passenger seat is still the way to go for me, even if I can't get one of the cars for myself, or that perhaps this means Waymo will take longer to get out the door worldwide. For me personally, this is something that really cannot be rushed. It is the future, sure, but rather than wanting to experiment and beta test the thing myself, it's something I look forward for the next generation. Perhaps it takes people who have lost family and friends to car accidents to appreciate this, but that's it for me. I hate gung-ho companies pushing tech to the limits at the cost of innocent human lives and public safety just so they can advance their tech agenda. I also think Tesla response in each and every of those cases was extremely poor to say the least. Uber's was even worse, so there's that. I don't even like Alphabet and Google as a company much. But at least for now, I know who to trust, and Tesla isn't it. Too many half truths, straight falsehoods, and hyperbolic crap for me to take in. Musk can go smoke a joint or keep provoking SEC with his tweets for all I care, but I had enough of semi sociopath leaders for the moment.
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