Comments by "XSportSeeker" (@XSpImmaLion) on "Why the Future of Cars is Electric" video.

  1. Yep... read too much like an ad piece, have to agree with everyone else, even though I do agree with the proposition. Here's the thing all electric car proponents should know - cost, need for infrastructure and manufacturing will delay this electric car future by a whole lot. I don't live in the US, so here's what I can say. In my country, gas cars are several times cheaper than electric cars. As in, electric cars are a super luxury here right now. If you are getting one, you probably intend to also have a backup gas car just in case, and will need to install the entire charging infrastructure at home because in the streets you are sol. Gas car and other vehicles manufacturing is a huge source of jobs. Electric car manufactury seems to be overall adopting the massive replacement of jobs for automation. This is gonna have a big impact, perhaps not so much for countries where economies are not so dependant on this sector, but most definitely for countries that do, like mine. Infrastructure proper to it like charging stations are still extremely paltry - to the point you cannot reliably make a trip with one. Not if you are going to smaller cities and expecting to charge your car in the way. Yes, you could use regular electricity from regular plugs, but not only those will charge way slower, most places here don't have a proper electric system that is adequate for stuff like charging cars. Maintenance is yet another problem - they are far and few between and very expensive. The problem is having to import everything and needing specialized workers that are still in the minority. It is a new paradigm, so it'll take a while for people to adapt. Finally, no, having to stop and wait for your car to be charged is a con in itself. Advertisements and pro electric car people need to step down their assumptions and their personal priviledged situations and understand that not every driver has the luxury of stopping in charging stations and wait for the batteries to charge. So, this is something for people to adapt to. Further, let's add here: batteries have both an environmental cost, and a safety cost. Lithium is not an infinite resource, so it's a problematic factor. Even if modern battery technology allows for current electric cars to run for years on their original batteries, the fact is that at some point those will start failing, and become yet another source of toxic waste. There is an obvious bias going on right now with electric car owners assuming that just because their daily routine is breezy and light enough to allow for these types of costs and cons don't affect too much their bottomline, that the same will be true for everyone else. It doesn't work like that. Autonomous cars and the technology associated with it, even though isn't directly related with electric cars themselves, is poised to generate a whole ton of problems because of the way it's being made. First, it requires a whole ton of electronic circuitry and technology, which all have their own particular set of problems and particular industrial segmentation. Second, they are being made by technology monopolies that are highly interested in collecting your private data. Third, they are even more vulnerable to hacking and other computer related attacks in comparison to existing electronic systems of current gas cars. So, we're not only handing down the control and monitoring of cars to AIs, we are also handing it down to a very small set of tech monopolies. Ok, now, with those in consideration. Electric cars have a way simpler construction overall. You are drawing power from batteries to drive a motor. This not only simplifies the overall build, and gives more control over things, but also reduces energy waste in general. So, it makes sense to go towards it. For gas, you need combustion chambers, the conversion of gas explosions to movement, the need to filter noxious gases and subproducts that results from this entire conversion, an extremely complex system to do all that, which weights a lot, heats a lot, wears down a lot, and needs constant replacement and repair of discardable parts. So yes, it is a more streamlined, elegant solution for cars. The more we manage to source power from less complex and diversified sources, the easier it becomes to make it cleaner and simpler. For gas, you need transportation with ships and tank trucks, underground storages in gas stops, regulatory agencies and monitoring so this entire system isn't abused, among other stuff. Electricity goes through power lines. Ultimately, it'd be better if we had an incredibly robust eletricity generation and transmission system overall replacing both oil and gas as power sources, not only for cars, but for basically everything else. Even though production of electricity, manufacturing of electric cars, and the battery production are all potential sources of pollution and toxic waste, gas cars are just simply worse overall. There are way more parts to break, way more disposable stuff going into trashcans, a pollution problem, noxious chemicals in several fronts, among other problems. With that, there's also the fact that gas cars haven't been significantly evolving for quite a while now. The tech is mature, and even some attempts to make them cleaner seems to be all fake and product of corrupted manufacturers alterating test results. Now, for autonomy and use of tech, computers and AI. Unfortunately, humans have proven over and over and over again to be extremely bad drivers. The number of lives we lose every year because of drunk drivers or just plain incompetent drivers is staggering. The money and number of hours people spend on average during their lifetimes learning how to drive, fixing cars, and worrying about personal modes of transportation is just incalculable. There's definitely reason to worry about automating this entire aspect of peoples' lives, but I'd say we have to at least try considering the current costs. I could go on and on with this, but suffice to say that yes, I do agree that we have to try to make electric cars... "the future". I do highly doubt though that it'll be smooth sailing. This is a paradigm change that will have big advantages, but also generate big problems.
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  2. Yep... read too much like an ad piece, have to agree with everyone else, even though I do agree with the proposition. Here's the thing all electric car proponents should know - cost, need for infrastructure and manufacturing will delay this electric car future by a whole lot. I don't live in the US, so here's what I can say. In my country, gas cars are several times cheaper than electric cars. As in, electric cars are a super luxury here right now. If you are getting one, you probably intend to also have a backup gas car just in case, and will need to install the entire charging infrastructure at home because in the streets you are sol. Gas car and other vehicles manufacturing is a huge source of jobs. Electric car manufactury seems to be overall adopting the massive replacement of jobs for automation. This is gonna have a big impact, perhaps not so much for countries where economies are not so dependant on this sector, but most definitely for countries that do, like mine. Infrastructure proper to it like charging stations are still extremely paltry - to the point you cannot reliably make a trip with one. Not if you are going to smaller cities and expecting to charge your car in the way. Yes, you could use regular electricity from regular plugs, but not only those will charge way slower, most places here don't have a proper electric system that is adequate for stuff like charging cars. Maintenance is yet another problem - they are far and few between and very expensive. The problem is having to import everything and needing specialized workers that are still in the minority. It is a new paradigm, so it'll take a while for people to adapt. Finally, no, having to stop and wait for your car to be charged is a con in itself. Advertisements and pro electric car people need to step down their assumptions and their personal priviledged situations and understand that not every driver has the luxury of stopping in charging stations and wait for the batteries to charge. So, this is something for people to adapt to. Further, let's add here: batteries have both an environmental cost, and a safety cost. Lithium is not an infinite resource, so it's a problematic factor. Even if modern battery technology allows for current electric cars to run for years on their original batteries, the fact is that at some point those will start failing, and become yet another source of toxic waste. There is an obvious bias going on right now with electric car owners assuming that just because their daily routine is breezy and light enough to allow for these types of costs and cons don't affect too much their bottomline, that the same will be true for everyone else. It doesn't work like that. Autonomous cars and the technology associated with it, even though isn't directly related with electric cars themselves, is poised to generate a whole ton of problems because of the way it's being made. First, it requires a whole ton of electronic circuitry and technology, which all have their own particular set of problems and particular industrial segmentation. Second, they are being made by technology monopolies that are highly interested in collecting your private data. Third, they are even more vulnerable to hacking and other computer related attacks in comparison to existing electronic systems of current gas cars. So, we're not only handing down the control and monitoring of cars to AIs, we are also handing it down to a very small set of tech monopolies. Ok, now, with those in consideration. Electric cars have a way simpler construction overall. You are drawing power from batteries to drive a motor. This not only simplifies the overall build, and gives more control over things, but also reduces energy waste in general. So, it makes sense to go towards it. For gas, you need combustion chambers, the conversion of gas explosions to movement, the need to filter noxious gases and subproducts that results from this entire conversion, an extremely complex system to do all that, which weights a lot, heats a lot, wears down a lot, and needs constant replacement and repair of discardable parts. So yes, it is a more streamlined, elegant solution for cars. The more we manage to source power from less complex and diversified sources, the easier it becomes to make it cleaner and simpler. For gas, you need transportation with ships and tank trucks, underground storages in gas stops, regulatory agencies and monitoring so this entire system isn't abused, among other stuff. Electricity goes through power lines. Ultimately, it'd be better if we had an incredibly robust eletricity generation and transmission system overall replacing both oil and gas as power sources, not only for cars, but for basically everything else. Even though production of electricity, manufacturing of electric cars, and the battery production are all potential sources of pollution and toxic waste, gas cars are just simply worse overall. There are way more parts to break, way more disposable stuff going into trashcans, a pollution problem, noxious chemicals in several fronts, among other problems. With that, there's also the fact that gas cars haven't been significantly evolving for quite a while now. The tech is mature, and even some attempts to make them cleaner seems to be all fake and product of corrupted manufacturers alterating test results. Now, for autonomy and use of tech, computers and AI. Unfortunately, humans have proven over and over and over again to be extremely bad drivers. The number of lives we lose every year because of drunk drivers or just plain incompetent drivers is staggering. The money and number of hours people spend on average during their lifetimes learning how to drive, fixing cars, and worrying about personal modes of transportation is just incalculable. There's definitely reason to worry about automating this entire aspect of peoples' lives, but I'd say we have to at least try considering the current costs. I could go on and on with this, but suffice to say that yes, I do agree that we have to try to make electric cars... "the future". I do highly doubt though that it'll be smooth sailing. This is a paradigm change that will have big advantages, but also generate big problems.
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