Comments by "XSportSeeker" (@XSpImmaLion) on "Detransitioners | VICE on Showtime Season 4" video.
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Very brave and very good that she's sharing the story... it's very sad that this subject needs to be in the midst of an ideological warzone. Yet another ill effect of an ideology of hatred.
To me it's quite simple - you give people options, period. And support should an error occur.
That's what freedom and democracy should look like. Censorship, obscurantism, and the government trying to micro manage every aspect of their citizen's life is not that.
Like what people strive to do in basically everything in their lives, identity is no exception. You can make mistakes, and it's ok to change your decisions if a previous one didn't work out for you. And yeah, I can definitely see how anyone would be worried that their stories will get weaponized by extreme ideologies these days...
It's just horrible that transitioning, gender affirming care, and these subjects have become such a minefield. It's hard enough without the zealotry and unnecessary hatred, there should not be extra burdens there.
For whatever reason, it has become acceptable for people to do all sorts of weird stuff with their bodies for vanity, as it is also ok to reverse changes afterwards, but it's not when it's about trying to match your body with your gender somehow? Why? When the former is the one that's optional and unnecessary - vanity plastic surgery I mean? None of this makes sense.
And then all the prejudicial crap that homophobes and zealots keep propping up... as if the absolute vast majority of sexual deviancy crimes, abuses and whatnot didn't predominantly come exactly from the communities often involved in anti-LGBT campaigns.
Ignorants asking if I would let my kid alone with a drag queen or gay person... you know what? Ideally I wouldn't leave my kid alone with any stranger, but I'd be several times more comfortable leaving him or her with a drag queen, a homossexual, or anyone who had to learn a ton about gender identity for their own struggles, rather than an uninformed ignorant priest or pastor, or their cadre of zealots that keeps equating minorities to the devil or something. Those are the real dangerous ones for kids.
Anyways, I'm getting off topic... it just boils my blood that people have to go through such hardships because of the ignorance of others, because of this weaponization of politics and ideologies.
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@johnnysupreme5718
I never said that hatred was telling people that transitioning is a bad idea, which is just an opinion, which you are entitled to have, but not to force upon others. It's ultimately not your choice to make, it should be theirs.
Hatred is discriminating against people for wanting to go through the process, for choosing to transition, to the point you think it's right for government to interfere in those choices. It also comes from a point of people thinking they know better than the people who are in the process. Leave it to them and to trained medical professionals, like you already do for all sorts of other procedures. They don't need constant interference coming from uninformed people.
The whole reason why it should be legal and open without being constant subject of political and ideological fights is to leave it to the hands of qualified people. Transitioning and gender affirming care should not come without psychological evaluation, follow up, and discussion. The only way to do this properly is to keep it legal and keep it open.
It's also hatred that makes it impossible for people to openly discuss transitioning and de-transitioning, because instead of being just a matter of personal choice, it becomes weaponized by political sides to superficially prove points. Ignorance around the subject only makes it worse, it does not solve anything.
Like I already mentioned, we don't have all this negative charge and constant bickering when it comes to other types of procedures, even cosmetic procedures. And gender is a far deeper self identity point in comparison to having a big nose or a flabby belly.
As for suicide rates, you are obviously conflating a whole ton of stuff and making broad strokes generalization there for your convenience. It's exactly hatred and weaponization of the subject, prejudice and lack of places to discuss these things in society, that has an impact on mental health. You wanna work on that, first we need to stop prejudice, then we can discuss the effects of transitioning. You can't use high suicide rates in trans people for a specific agenda.
Of course given how stigmatized subjects like transitioning, gender affirming care, and even teaching people about the subject already are, that minorities involved will have worse mental health. They don't feel represented, they don't have communities to support them, and they are constantly targeted by prejudice and hatred. Forcing someone to be something they don't identify with for no good reason can make things drastically worse, and it is in fact one of the main reasons for suicide in general.
So, if you are worried about mental health, about suicide rates, and you want people to live happy lives, you give them choice, support and guidance. Proper, not just opinion based I mean. That's all.
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