Comments by "Neolithic Transit Revolution" (@neolithictransitrevolution427) on "The Delicious Diets of Prehistoric Europe (Mesolithic, Neolithic, Bronze Age)" video.

I didn't realize how large a part of the diet bears are, i would love to hear more. I know "bear" is actually derived from the indo European for "brown", the word for the animal appears to have been Taboo. I also know in native American culture Bears are often considered the spirits of Humans. It makes me wonder if this was as much a dietary reason as suggested, or maybe (purely spit balling) something like a fear that one wouldn't be able to reincarnate in a land without Bears. Ancient Egypt never expanded greatly because those who died outside egypt couldn't go to the afterlife. The drive to be able to reach an afterlife make more sense to me than putting a bear in your canoe to eat, particularly when its going to eat the same berrys, nuts, and animals as you would have.
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I would love to hear more on the relationship with bears. My understanding is ANE ate bears mainly in the winter when facing starvtion, due to the obvious risks involved in hunting. I know "bear" is actually derived from the indo European for "brown", the word for the animal appears to have been Taboo. I also know in native American culture Bears are often considered the spirits of Humans. It makes me wonder if this was as much a dietary reason as suggested, or maybe (purely spit balling) something like a fear that one wouldn't be able to reincarnate in a land without Bears. Ancient Egypt never expanded greatly because those who died outside egypt couldn't go to the afterlife. The drive to be able to reach an afterlife make more sense to me than putting a bear in your canoe to eat, particularly when its going to eat the same berrys, nuts, and animals as you would have.
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And Europeans themselve could be quite picky, Spanish in the South west starving because they refuced to eat ants. Also, the Jewish prohibition on many shellfish had to start somewhere, being over 4k year old. And they would have been in close proximity to the Levant where the Early farmers left from. Idk if thats a real connect but jumped into my head.
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@thedwightguy The point about tricinosis is neat, but I'm not sure I got your point. Yes I certainly don't mean to lump all north American traditions, my mistake, or imply hunting didn't occur. But I'm not aware of it being an exceeding large part of an groups diet. To the point you wod want a bear in a canoe crossing the irish sea to hunt them in a few generations anyway.
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@johnbaker1256 That is interesting, as far as I am aware they were rather lithic as well, although with a large amount of ceramics. When you say raise, do you meam in cages? And is this similar to sun bears were it was for "medical" purposes rather than basic food?
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The Spanish has the same problem in New Mexico, wouldn't eat bugs.
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There are ceramics dating back 30k years along the Amur river in East Siberia where people were storing fish. I would assume these people share a common history with the Eastern Hunter Gathers through the Ancient North Eurasians.
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Always excellent, the hazelnuts is very interesting, that they would mass process food. It would have been interesting if you had discussed how cattle breeds changed overtime (meat or milk focused in an era), or if the breed was rather consistent. Did the Indo Europeans originally get cattle through the Eastern hunter gathers?
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@johnbaker1256 Interesting, I've recently heard that people of the eastern woodlands would keep black bears in pens and eat them for ritual feasting as well. It does make sense, a black bear isn't huge, it can eat garbage, and its a fatty animal. Where you don't have a swine of some sort, I see how it is a strong option. Still, bringing brown bears to Ireland, alongside boars, seems odd to me. Much more dangerous and at the same time less necessary.
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@johnbaker1256 Ya, the original comment in the video was that Brown Bears were introduced to Ireland by Hunter Gathers, who would have brought them across in Canoes. Since Ireland was never part of Doggerland, there was no land bridge. Same reason there are no snakes.
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@johnbaker1256 Yep I understood, I thought you were just giving a parallel example of why people would raise bears for food..
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@MissSchnickfitzel ANE is Ancient North Eurasians, as in the people who lived in Siberia during 30-10k YBP. You are mistaken about their abundance of food, or at least according to our archeological finds.
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stable communities exisiting for thousands of years does give the impression they were constantly wiping themselves out, doesn't it/s
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Just the water bugs and the snails.
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@DanDavisHistory Very excited
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@cathjj840 Yes of course, but the Early European farmers can out of Anatolia, and before that the fertile crescent in locations like Jericho. Obviously the jewish Prohibition has extended beyond the dessert lifestyle.
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There is a difference between 'dishonest' and 'stock footage doesn't exist of prehistoric food'. The difference is he literally says this clarification.
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@Zaeyrus Well, they're different when they're in your canoe though (even knowing bores are savage)
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It's a shame how polluted oceans have become. Shellfish and seafood were the engines of life, now you're at risk of mercury and micro plastic poison eating them regularly, among others. Even River fish like Salmon carry these fron the Ocean, and the rivers themselves are to often polluted with waste chemicals. The foods that we may have well been best suited to survive on has become a toxin.
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@dv9239 that's really interesting.
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I'd rank it up there with the Tumulus culture and Cucuteni-Trypilla, you?
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I think it was Boars in the Aegean, not bears.
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Knowing where the Ancient Neolithic Farmers originated, I wonder if the lack of shellfish remains aligns in someway with the Jewish prohibition on shellfish. This goes back over 4 thousand years and to before writen records, and fish remains obviously keep in the historical record less reliably than shells.
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@DanDavisHistory I know they are partially descended, but I thought the Indo-European cattle stock had come over the Caucasus mountains and were related to that portion of the ancestory
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